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Title: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: _sean_ on March 13, 2021, 06:54:52 pm
Looking for some reccomendations for favourite 7c - 7c+ boulders in the Peaks. Tend to boulder on my own so looking for lines that dont need too much padding

Cheers!
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: old cheese on March 13, 2021, 07:10:12 pm
Middle man direct at the secret garden (or whatever people call it). High quality climbing and proper ‘grit’ feel required
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Wood FT on March 13, 2021, 07:12:41 pm
If I was climbing at that grade on Grit I'd want to do Birdsong @ Bradley and Soul Power @ Froggatt
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Bradders on March 13, 2021, 07:14:20 pm
Low Rider for 7C+ surely?
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 13, 2021, 08:00:43 pm
Brad Pit
Western Eyes
The Storm
Blind Fig
Sole Power
Flatworld
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: teestub on March 13, 2021, 08:09:15 pm
Low Rider for 7C+ surely?

Not bad for a lip traverse with a drop off finish 😁

JB’s list is basically my Eastern Peak dream list (with the exception of blind fig!)
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Ru on March 13, 2021, 08:10:04 pm
Middle man direct at the secret garden (or whatever people call it). High quality climbing and proper ‘grit’ feel required

Left Hand Man Direct. I should have given it a proper name.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Will Hunt on March 13, 2021, 08:11:48 pm
The Storm

Isn't The Storm 7B+?
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: 205Chris on March 13, 2021, 08:29:42 pm
The Storm

Isn't The Storm 7B+?

Depends if you use a heel or not (BGfBB).

Also, I wouldn't class Sole Power as something that doesn't need much padding.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Will Hunt on March 13, 2021, 08:40:30 pm
The Storm

Isn't The Storm 7B+?

Depends if you use a heel or not (BGfBB).

Go on... (I used a toe).
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: jamesturnbull97 on March 13, 2021, 10:22:25 pm
The Storm

Isn't The Storm 7B+?

Depends if you use a heel or not (BGfBB).

Go on... (I used a toe).

It broke my ankle...

Anyway Kobe at Wharncliffe is supposed to one of the best of it's grade at around 7c+/8aish
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: nic mullin on March 13, 2021, 10:42:20 pm
Grand Doigts at Froggatt is really good - powerful and tenuous at the start and a knacky stand-up-a-millisecond-faster-than-you-fall-off deadpoint to finish. Skin friendly and fine with 2 pads and no spot.

Re: Storm, I found it harder than most of the other stuff on JB’s list (can’t comment on Western Eyes or Sole Power, but took me longer than the others) and it’s a cool move. It’d definitely be on my hit list. Very conditions dependent and can feel damp until it gets the sun, then greasy as soon as it comes round though.

Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: 205Chris on March 13, 2021, 11:00:37 pm
The Storm

Isn't The Storm 7B+?

Depends if you use a heel or not (BGfBB).

Go on... (I used a toe).

It broke my ankle...

Anyway Kobe at Wharncliffe is supposed to one of the best of it's grade at around 7c+/8aish

Why the slash grade? Has someone suggested it's not 8A?

On a pedant point it's not in the Peak.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: nai on March 14, 2021, 08:32:52 am
The Storm

Isn't The Storm 7B+?

Isn't Flatworld?

Tetris.

edit: (although it might be tricky alone)
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Bradders on March 14, 2021, 08:38:54 am
Isn't Flatworld?

Tetris.

edit: (although it might be tricky alone)

Assume he meant the sit?

Mossatrocity.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Bonjoy on March 14, 2021, 09:18:03 am
Flatworld sitter is not top 5 material. Quite brutal and not on the best rock.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Banana finger on March 14, 2021, 12:41:20 pm
 Kobe is one of the best at its grade in the country..let alone on grit..I genuinely think its 8A though.

I guess my criteria for quality is good moves, good rock and not too cons dependent (just fucking annoying). Not hugely bothered by "lines"...I mean, you don't look at the mantlepiece when you're poking the fire.

Mossatrocity (obvs i'd say that)
In the flick of time...Looks shit. Climbs great.
Sale Goose...Pure class
River of Life
Brads Wall...Again looks ave, climbs great.

Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Simon W on March 14, 2021, 06:46:26 pm
 I hadn't heard of Kobe before. Just seen Ned's vid and looks amazing. Anymore vids out there that people know of? Couldn't see it on Peakbouldering.

Can anyone comment on the landing? Hard to judge from the vid I saw but didn't look great!
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: cofe on March 14, 2021, 06:58:39 pm
There are a few on Instagram. Landing is sort of ok but complicated. I’d want a few pads and a spot. And to be two inches stronger. You need to be best part of 6 foot, or above, really. Amazing problem though.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Simon W on March 14, 2021, 07:43:48 pm
Thanks for the info, I'm 5.8 but my arms are 6.2 so might be a way!
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: monkey boy on March 14, 2021, 08:44:13 pm
Kobe is very good. I thought 8A too. If you're used to bouldering on your own it's ok with no spot. I had one big pad and a blubber.

Black Asteroid
Furry/Golden Egg
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Fiend on March 14, 2021, 09:27:29 pm
Thanks for the info, I'm 5.8 but my arms are 6.2 so might be a way!
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Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: jamesturnbull97 on March 14, 2021, 09:28:02 pm
The Storm

Isn't The Storm 7B+?

Depends if you use a heel or not (BGfBB).

Go on... (I used a toe).

It broke my ankle...

Anyway Kobe at Wharncliffe is supposed to one of the best of it's grade at around 7c+/8aish

Why the slash grade? Has someone suggested it's not 8A?

On a pedant point it's not in the Peak.

Thought I'd seen it with a slash but could be wrong, I've not been on it myself, sounds like it's probably 8a then.
Fair point but Wharncliffe's in the Peak guides so near enough I suppose.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Bonjoy on March 14, 2021, 09:51:37 pm
It's one of those problems where grading for the average height breaks down a bit. If you're average height you might just be able to climb it, but it will feel a grade or more harder than if you were a a few inches taller. So >90% of ascents will be by above average height climbers. The consensus is 8a among these anyway from what I've heard, with taller end climbers finding it easier.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Bradders on March 14, 2021, 10:03:56 pm
Mike Adam's said 7C+/8A

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuEiGkYB9z0/?igshid=1eof6kbqescst
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: User deactivated. on March 14, 2021, 10:24:12 pm
Kobe looks immense but it would definitely require a seige for me to have a chance getting up it.

Could anyone advise how steep it is approximately? It's hard to tell from the videos, but I'm trying to figure out if I could set replica moves on my board which is 42 degrees.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Ru on March 14, 2021, 10:37:56 pm
It's one of those problems where grading for the average height breaks down a bit. If you're average height you might just be able to climb it, but it will feel a grade or more harder than if you were a a few inches taller.

Which are the moves requiring reach? I assume it's the starting moves, but it's not that obvious from looking at Mike's video.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Bonjoy on March 14, 2021, 10:44:53 pm
It's the slap to the big slope with your left hand. Done off a left toehook on the arete/lip (out of shot on vids) by most folk. A fair bit harder if you are totally crucified when you hit the hold, and a lot harder again ( but possible) if you can't reach off the toehook at all. The holds are quite low friction and slopey on this move.
It's a bit less than 30 degrees OHing I reckon.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: haydn jones on March 14, 2021, 10:51:13 pm
I was contemplating whether to try this, I'm 5'10 with +1 ape, reckon its 8A for me still jon?
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Bonjoy on March 14, 2021, 10:51:45 pm
 Just watching Mike's vid, the crux is the second hand move. Mike is tall enough to not have to use the toehook as he can keep his feet on a good shelf (may explain the slash grade). The other ascents I've seen had to use a small nubbin 10 inches higher.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Bonjoy on March 14, 2021, 10:54:35 pm
I was contemplating whether to try this, I'm 5'10 with +1 ape, reckon its 8A for me still jon?
I think you'll just about fit it without feeling demoralising cheated by your lack of reach. Deffo worth a go. I'd guess it'll feel right at the grade.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: monkey boy on March 15, 2021, 08:32:29 am
I did the same/similar beta as Ned for this, which felt around 8A. I think most of the others who have done it haven't bothered with the bicycle out left for the end or the toe hook at the start. It's a great problem, if you have the span or the muscles to not need the span :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkJPjqltP8I
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: El Mocho on March 15, 2021, 09:48:39 am
I did the move with a high left heel, I'm 5'5'' with a positive ape but not sure how much. Move felt ok and I assumed I'd get close to the problem but then never managed the move again... Now that you've got me thinking about it I'm keen to go back. Def felt more like 8A than less
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
Post by: Stu Littlefair on March 15, 2021, 10:21:42 am
Like Ben I tried a high left heel, unlike Ben it felt desperate, at 5'6" and a neutral ape index. I can physically reach between the two holds but the move itself felt a long way off.
Title: Re: Best 7c / 7c+ on Peak Grit?
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