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Title: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 09, 2011, 10:37:42 pm
I was talking with young GrumpyCrumpy in the pub t'other evening, and I pointed out that before I stropped from another t'interweb messageboard one of my favourite threads was the "Cryptic Crossword Game"

Someone sets a cryptic crossword clue, and then someone else solves it by setting a clue with the answer to the previous one.


So. Let's run it up the flagpole, and see if it's saluted!

US Republicans answer ram? [13]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 10, 2011, 10:58:02 am
I'm struggling, so I'm going to grovel.  Pretty please, is it an anagram of US republicans?????  :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2011, 11:09:37 am
spuncersubial?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 10, 2011, 11:15:24 am
I like the idea, but I think it needs something easy to start with and then build up from there. I like cryptic crosswords but I'm a bit shit at them. Your clue seems very minimal.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 10, 2011, 11:33:49 am
I like the idea, but I think it needs something easy to start with and then build up from there. I like cryptic crosswords but I'm a bit shit at them. Your clue seems very minimal.

I'm with you Nik, too feckin' hard.  So while we're thinking about that one, an easier one, (I hope!):

Humphrey's lavatorial picture  (6)

 :P
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2011, 11:37:39 am
something easy to start with

Busy postman?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 10, 2011, 11:45:14 am

Humphrey's lavatorial picture  (6)

 :P
Toilet?

So do I now need to come up with a clue containing the word toilet? Assuming toilet's right??

Hmmm, I'll be back in a minute...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 10, 2011, 11:47:15 am

Busy postman?
How many letters?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 10, 2011, 11:51:15 am
Ok, this is lame but I have work to do:

Correspond in toilet terror. (6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on February 10, 2011, 12:12:10 pm
I like the idea, but I think it needs something easy to start with and then build up from there. I like cryptic crosswords but I'm a bit shit at them. Your clue seems very minimal.

I'm with you Nik, too feckin' hard.  So while we're thinking about that one, an easier one, (I hope!):

Humphrey's lavatorial picture  (6)

 :P

Bogart uses ends to strangle a vegetable (9)

Apologies in advance for the poorly set clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2011, 12:21:13 pm

Busy postman?
How many letters?

Fucking hundreds.

(the old ones are still the best.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 10, 2011, 12:56:48 pm

Humphrey's lavatorial picture  (6)

 :P
Toilet?

So do I now need to come up with a clue containing the word toilet? Assuming toilet's right??


Hmmm, I'll be back in a minute...

Wrong Nik, however....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 10, 2011, 12:59:25 pm
Bogart uses ends to strangle a vegetable (9)

I'm assuming that metal arms has been damn clever and used the correct answer, ie, Bogart in the next clue.

Damn clever....  :-\

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on February 10, 2011, 01:02:14 pm
I thought them was the rules  ;D

metal arms has been damn clever and used the correct answer, ie, Bogart in the next clue.

Damn clever....  :-\



A first time for everything! :o
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 10, 2011, 01:04:01 pm

Bogart uses ends to strangle a vegetable (9)


Finish Artichoke, yet to crap (5)

...sorry
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 10, 2011, 02:27:26 pm
Oh and Niks is letter
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2011, 02:52:07 pm
How about a semi climbing one?

Curtis's boring single finger? (8)

(does that conform to the rules, I've never paid that much attention)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 10, 2011, 03:04:03 pm
How about a semi climbing one?

Curtis's boring single finger? (8)

(does that conform to the rules, I've never paid that much attention)

Come on Chris, get with the program!  How many letters?  :spank:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Jaspersharpe on February 10, 2011, 03:07:53 pm
He's tried to write 8 but spazzed it up. (8) = ( 8 ) without the spaces.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on February 10, 2011, 03:10:13 pm
What JS said. I've got emoticons turned off so (8) stays as ( 8 ).

Anyway for numbers less than eleven I should be writing it out in full.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 10, 2011, 03:27:24 pm
Monotony.

No idea for Duma's though...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 10, 2011, 03:39:54 pm
Yeah, Duma's got me foxed too.  How about if it carries over a whole twenty four hours, the setter has to put us out of our misery?  :please:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: JamieG on February 10, 2011, 03:42:59 pm
Is Duma's just choke? I'm not very good at cryptic crosswords though.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 10, 2011, 03:43:14 pm
How about a semi climbing one?

Curtis's boring single finger? (8)

(does that conform to the rules, I've never paid that much attention)

shirley you have to use the answer of a previous clue in yours? Got to earn the right to annoy others...

mines not hard really, just rubbish  ;)
But this is all just a warm up for the start of the real thread once someone gets
US republicans answer ram (13)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 10, 2011, 03:44:00 pm
JamieG:
it's not that shit...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: JamieG on February 10, 2011, 03:47:36 pm
 :-[

Oops. Haha!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: JamieG on February 10, 2011, 04:17:10 pm
Okay, okay, okay . . . I think i've got Duma's one. Is it hokey? If not i'll get my coat.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 10, 2011, 04:31:02 pm
indeed - now you get to play setter.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: JamieG on February 10, 2011, 09:09:25 pm
I've come up with one. Apologies if it is rubbish. Here goes:

Hokey ancient headgear (3,3)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 10, 2011, 11:32:55 pm
OK then.


You seem to have got the idea; however, the idea is just because you're finding it difficult doesn't mean you can abandon it and plough your own furrow - it is supposed to make you think!

(About a day is probably the right amount of time to leave it before demanding a response from the setter)

The clue that is "live" is

"Republicans answer ram" [13]

-EA-----A--E-

The clue could have equally been cast as

"Tories response to Ram"

(the capital letter on "Ram" is significant)

- and it is Ximenian - it's unambiguous, self-contained, and straightforward - it consists  of a clue, a definition, and nothing else - rather than Araucarian - "I don't have to mean what I say, but I do have to say what I mean"
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on February 11, 2011, 08:13:28 am
and what part of that post is supposed to help us?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nai on February 11, 2011, 08:26:31 am
I've now got

REACTIONA--E-

but this is confusing when the orignal clue didn't have a capital  :shrug:

Quote
(the capital letter on "Ram" is significant)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Kim on February 11, 2011, 09:00:26 am
"Republicans answer ram" [13]

ok, i'll have a go...

Reactionaries leave note and sign for graphic art [7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Jaspersharpe on February 11, 2011, 09:28:43 am
Is it "drawing"?  :-\
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 11, 2011, 10:06:17 am
Could people also post an explanation of how they got their answer as well as another clue. It might help those who are useless at these things (i.e. me) get a bit better, or it might just confuse me even more...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 11, 2011, 10:15:26 am
Could people also post an explanation of how they got their answer as well as another clue. It might help those who are useless at these things (i.e. me) get a bit better, or it might just confuse me even more...

Tories/Republicans = Reactionaries

Answer = Reaction

Ram = Aries

Simple, non?!


Course, I didn't get it  :wall:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nai on February 11, 2011, 11:33:01 am

Reactionaries leave note and sign for graphic art [7]

posters?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 11, 2011, 11:50:51 am
OK then.


You seem to have got the idea; however, the idea is just because you're finding it difficult doesn't mean you can abandon it and plough your own furrow - it is supposed to make you think!

(About a day is probably the right amount of time to leave it before demanding a response from the setter)

The clue that is "live" is

"Republicans answer ram" [13]

-EA-----A--E-

The clue could have equally been cast as

"Tories response to Ram"

(the capital letter on "Ram" is significant)

- and it is Ximenian - it's unambiguous, self-contained, and straightforward - it consists  of a clue, a definition, and nothing else - rather than Araucarian - "I don't have to mean what I say, but I do have to say what I mean"
Except the original clue was "US Republicans answer ram" so you didn't have the capital R which would've helped, and it contained "US" - ie "something else" (though I'd happily accept US republicans for reactionaries). I think you started off a little hard for the level of most of us on this board, plus you had the rather large advantage of not having to use a random word in your clue - I found this bit really tricky!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on February 11, 2011, 12:54:29 pm

ok, i'll have a go...

Reactionaries leave note and sign for graphic art [7]

Is it DESIGNS?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Kim on February 11, 2011, 01:05:16 pm
Is it "drawing"?  :-\


Reactionaries leave note and sign for graphic art [7]

posters?

Nope to both.

Definitely trickier to do an easy one with a big word like that I think!

I didn't get aliceroberts' til the hangman clue, though I figured "aries" at the end, I just got stuck thinking it might begin
 with "con"(servatives) having dismissed reply and response for answer.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 11, 2011, 01:10:06 pm
Except the original clue was "US Republicans answer ram" so you didn't have the capital R which would've helped, and it contained "US" - ie "something else" (though I'd happily accept US republicans for reactionaries). I think you started off a little hard for the level of most of us on this board, plus you had the rather large advantage of not having to use a random word in your clue - I found this bit really tricky!
Just read that back and it sounds bitchy - apologies, I'm just bitter I couldn't do it!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Kim on February 11, 2011, 01:11:26 pm

ok, i'll have a go...

Reactionaries leave note and sign for graphic art [7]

Is it DESIGNS?

No...

This might be a better version:

Reactionaries take point and sign, leaving badly drawn art [7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 11, 2011, 04:41:11 pm
"Republicans answer ram" [13]

ok, i'll have a go...

Reactionaries leave note and sign for graphic art [7]


Heavenly body can be found in Erotica, Russell said. [6]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 11, 2011, 04:57:23 pm
I almost got that one, bah.

I'd still like an explanation for the solutions please as I imagine I'll soon be lost, or at the very least could the solution to the previous clue be highlighted in the new clue.

i.e.
Heavenly body can be found in Erotica, Russell said. [6]

Or something similar please.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 11, 2011, 05:08:28 pm
Icarus?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 11, 2011, 06:08:18 pm
?

You're supposed to come up with a clue of your own, containing the answer - not just post the solution

("I've got it, I'm thinking of a reply" should be sufficient if no-one else is essaying a response though if it appears to be "stuck")
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 11, 2011, 06:10:12 pm

ok, i'll have a go...

Reactionaries leave note and sign for graphic art [7]

Is it DESIGNS?

No...

This might be a better version:

Reactionaries take point and sign, leaving badly drawn art [7]


I thought the first one scanned better & was more elegant. (And more accurate in terms of the definition?)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nai on February 11, 2011, 06:11:49 pm
[You're supposed to come up with a clue of your own, containing the answer - not just post the solution

But if you're not sure it's coorect best to check in first no?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 11, 2011, 06:17:23 pm
[You're supposed to come up with a clue of your own, containing the answer - not just post the solution

But if you're not sure it's coorect best to check in first no?

No. Roll with it, if the setter comes back to gainsay your response, then it goes back. If it's gone on from there just follow the current thread. You'll be here forever if you need every answer corroborating.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 11, 2011, 09:19:37 pm
Reactionaries leave note and sign for graphic art [7]
This might be a better version:
Reactionaries take point and sign, leaving badly drawn art [7]
I thought the first one scanned better & was more elegant. (And more accurate in terms of the definition?)
but he didn't indicate the anagram in the first, or is that only in the easy crosswords I do?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 11, 2011, 09:23:44 pm
[You're supposed to come up with a clue of your own, containing the answer - not just post the solution

But if you're not sure it's coorect best to check in first no?
Nah, then we've all got nothing to do until you've come up with a clue (like now!). Solving the previous and coming up with a new puzzle, that's the trick.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 12, 2011, 12:39:35 am
Icarus flew east into the sun but did it make him more audacious? (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 12, 2011, 09:04:17 am
& if people aren't already using them, these can come in handy

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/ (http://wordsmith.org/anagram/)

http://www.allwords.com/solver.php/ (http://www.allwords.com/solver.php/)

http://www.crosswordsolver.org/ (http://www.crosswordsolver.org/)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Kim on February 12, 2011, 09:24:21 am
Reactionaries leave note and sign for graphic art [7]
This might be a better version:
Reactionaries take point and sign, leaving badly drawn art [7]
I thought the first one scanned better & was more elegant. (And more accurate in terms of the definition?)
but he didn't indicate the anagram in the first, or is that only in the easy crosswords I do?

I thought graphic alluded to both an anagram (vaguely) and the type of art but then it was throwing people off track a bit.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 12, 2011, 09:29:03 am
"Voice denied myth" - saucier version of cantos by Dante? [3,6,6]

A clue - should you need one

http://tinyurl.com/6cdlwu6 (http://tinyurl.com/6cdlwu6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: deacon on February 12, 2011, 09:55:13 am
Can I play?

The answer is : the devine comedy


My clue is

Unsettled comedian lacked the energy to be funny (7)

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 12, 2011, 10:10:13 am
You've got to put the answer to the previous clue in your own

(yours is "nomadic", btw)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: deacon on February 12, 2011, 11:20:01 am
soz try this:

Sampling of ink used to create the Divine comedy (4,9)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 12, 2011, 11:26:46 am
soz try this:

Sampling of ink used to create the Divine comedy (4,9)

(http://www.strangefunvideos.com/images/content/168659.gif)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 12, 2011, 03:43:55 pm
In the pink, flamingos without H5N1. (7).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Kim on February 12, 2011, 07:20:59 pm
I'll show you I'm healthy! (7,3,7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 12, 2011, 07:47:16 pm
[dullard]
Can one of you explain the wordplay?  :please:
[/dullard]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Kim on February 12, 2011, 08:04:28 pm
[dullard]
Can one of you explain the wordplay?  :please:
[/dullard]

Other than both halves mean healthy (which I assume you figured)?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 12, 2011, 08:30:55 pm
No. I missed the subtelty of "Flamingos without H1N5" - I was trying to fit a synonym for flamingo "outside" "flu"

 :wall:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 12, 2011, 08:56:35 pm
Sorry, perhaps not the best clue in the world, one that needs a few unches filled in really, but I was distracted by the rugby and not much sprang to mind involving pink flamingos!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 13, 2011, 02:23:23 pm
It was fine - nice to see arfk doesn't get them all immediately! Have managed all the answers but the starter (pre extra clues) and Kim's latest, but find thinking of worthy clues really difficult, very impressed with all the efforts so far!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 13, 2011, 03:35:15 pm
Arrgh, got Kim's now as well but still can't come up with a decent clue, any online resources to help teach me? Don't wait if you've got it - I'll be here forever.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 13, 2011, 03:54:53 pm
Llama leads Darwin to witness the fitness (7)

Once its solved, comments on possible improvements welcome!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 14, 2011, 09:58:50 am
clue (http://wheelsontoast.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/yvon_chouinard.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 14, 2011, 06:23:27 pm
Is everyone else as lost as I am here?

 


:shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 14, 2011, 06:46:26 pm
Indeed. I have no idea. And a that picture just confused me more.

I don't even know which word we are looking for a synonym of.

Help.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 14, 2011, 06:52:38 pm
I've got a 7-letter synonym* for llama, and a clue for it ready to roll, but can't fathom the wordplay.

Yvon Chouinard leans towards it, but his charity is specifically a llama one, isn't it?


* Not strictly a synonym, a llama is an example of one.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 14, 2011, 07:01:01 pm
How do you know your looking for a synonym (of llama)? I'm a complete splat at this stuff so any pointers would be gratefully received...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 14, 2011, 07:06:27 pm
The fact that the word camelid has 7 letters is close to an answer as I got.

If you have another clue let's hear it, the 24 hour deadline is nearly up anyway.

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 14, 2011, 07:11:22 pm
We don't, but you are nearly always looking for a synonym of the first or last word or phrase. It's never in the middle of the clue. Sometimes it's the whole clue that indicates the answer, sometimes both halves (like my clue).

Occasionally it's more complicated, but looking for a synonym is a good start.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 14, 2011, 07:19:25 pm
The fact that the word camelid has 7 letters is close to an answer as I got.

If you have another clue let's hear it, the 24 hour deadline is nearly up anyway.

ditto.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 14, 2011, 07:22:18 pm
Did anyone else know - which I didn't until today - that Private Eye uses "corporation" as a synonym for stomach, belly, tummy/tum etc?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 14, 2011, 07:23:37 pm
Metal camelid loses nearly a length of cloth, worries and hesitates? [7]

Oh.


And a very, very cryptic clue, think when this was written...

http://bit.ly/Bzue (http://bit.ly/Bzue)

And one fewer than these people...

http://bit.ly/himCpB (http://bit.ly/himCpB)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 14, 2011, 07:32:46 pm
Telegraph has used corporation too. I had to get my dad to explain.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 14, 2011, 07:35:43 pm
And I'm all agog.

Pray continue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 14, 2011, 07:36:22 pm
Scholar removes doubt from cadmium and gets mixed up with a european conformity. (8 )

Probably wrong and shit but at least I'm trying....


Edited to improve clue, I think??
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 14, 2011, 07:49:30 pm
Scholar removes doubt from cadmium and gets mixed up with a european conformity. (8 )

Probably wrong and shit but at least I'm trying....


Edited to improve clue, I think??

Fash thyself not. The answer is correct.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: mr__j5 on February 14, 2011, 07:54:59 pm
Scholar removes doubt from cadmium and gets mixed up with a european conformity. (8 )

organism lives in academic robes [7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 14, 2011, 08:23:11 pm
Good clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 14, 2011, 08:26:15 pm
microbe goes one over par (6,3,8)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 14, 2011, 08:59:47 pm
.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 14, 2011, 09:01:54 pm
Good clue.

ditto. You beat me to that.


(Can I suggest, while I'm here, we agree to refrain from wad/puntering people for the quality of the clues on this thread, as it could become ridiculously self-referential?)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 14, 2011, 09:37:11 pm


(Can I suggest, while I'm here, we agree to refrain from wad/puntering people for the quality of the clues on this thread, as it could become ridiculously self-referential?)

What, you mean like the football thread....?

Let's just agree that we are all jolly smart fellows.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 14, 2011, 09:40:19 pm
microbe goes one over par. (6,3,8)

Is that what you meant arfk? Does it make a big difference? Sorry if I've done it wrong... Thinking about it maybe ? would be more appropriate :shrug: sorry if I'm clouding the waters.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 14, 2011, 10:34:37 pm
gorrrocks

(To quote Keith Harris.  Wrong reply.)

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: JamieG on February 14, 2011, 10:44:59 pm
microbe goes one over par. (6,3,8)

Is that what you meant arfk? Does it make a big difference? Sorry if I've done it wrong... Thinking about it maybe ? would be more appropriate :shrug: sorry if I'm clouding the waters.


An award show fungus the bogeyman starts but messes up (6)

I apologise if this breaks any cryptic rules. Hopefully someone gets it quickly.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 15, 2011, 12:23:10 am
We don't, but you are nearly always looking for a synonym of the first or last word or phrase. It's never in the middle of the clue. Sometimes it's the whole clue that indicates the answer, sometimes both halves (like my clue).

Occasionally it's more complicated, but looking for a synonym is a good start.
Apologies for the delay - been at the wall this evening...

I think I messed this up. Not really aware of the rules/conventions etc.

Llama leads Darwin to witness the fitness (7)

The answer was FitzRoy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_FitzRoy) (Captain of the Beagle, Darwin's leader), also a Mountain in Patagonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Fitz_Roy) (3rd ascent by Chouinard and origin of the name of his company) that's right next to Cerro Torre, that(David) L(l)ama is currently controversially attempting (see front page of UKB)

Sorry, again.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 15, 2011, 07:32:53 am
We don't, but you are nearly always looking for a synonym of the first or last word or phrase. It's never in the middle of the clue. Sometimes it's the whole clue that indicates the answer, sometimes both halves (like my clue).

Occasionally it's more complicated, but looking for a synonym is a good start.
Apologies for the delay - been at the wall this evening...

I think I messed this up. Not really aware of the rules/conventions etc.

Llama leads Darwin to witness the fitness (7)

The answer was FitzRoy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_FitzRoy) (Captain of the Beagle, Darwin's leader), also a Mountain in Patagonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Fitz_Roy) (3rd ascent by Chouinard and origin of the name of his company) that's right next to Cerro Torre, that(David) L(l)ama is currently controversially attempting (see front page of UKB)

Sorry, again.

Why are you  apologising Duma ? ....... Damned fine clue that .......  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 15, 2011, 08:05:48 am
What do we do now? Go back for Duma to devise another clue? Or carry on with the current clue. In which case:

Benefits regarding missing the start of the Baftas for example. (7)


edited for improved clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 15, 2011, 08:40:38 am
Where does the a, a, and s in Baftas come from? I don't get it.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 15, 2011, 09:13:31 am

An award show fungus the bogeyman starts but messes up (6)


To give A A S F T B

messed up:
BAFTAS

Is what I thought....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: JamieG on February 15, 2011, 09:21:27 am

An award show fungus the bogeyman starts but messes up (6)


To give A A S F T B

messed up:
BAFTAS

Is what I thought....

That was the idea. Phew, someone got it, i'm off the hook.  :)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 15, 2011, 09:42:12 am
Doh!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 15, 2011, 11:48:40 am
Llama leads Darwin to witness the fitness (7)

Once its solved, comments on possible improvements welcome!
Well it hasn't been solved, but the answer has been revealed so I'll comment away...

I think it's a good clue (after explanation, I was lost before that) but one thing I would say is that the climbing reference is a tad obscure. I don't know about the others here but I would have discouted a Lama reference straight off as it would require pretty specialist knowledge which I'd assume Mr Average crossworder wouldn't have, especially as it was mis-spelt. But then I'm pretty new to all this so tra-la-la...

Lama leads Darwin to witness the fitness (7)

would perhaps have been better (if that's the right word?) to make the reference a bit clearer and avoid lots of blind-alleying down the alpaca/gnu/camel etc route.

Your further clue helped me not a jot, but that says more about my level of knowledge than anything else.

But overall I liked it, despite it completely bamboozling me. In fact I'm impressed with the clues from all parties thus far.

If you (or anyone else?) would like to return the favour and critique my clues that would be most welcome.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 15, 2011, 11:56:37 am
Rewards messed up ladies underwear (7)

More of a Rufus clue methinks, ie, easy!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 15, 2011, 12:23:05 pm
Collector sighs as tool drops out of broken drawers adding nothing. (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Scouse D on February 15, 2011, 12:29:39 pm
Hoarder
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 15, 2011, 12:31:45 pm
Hoarder

Clue please scouser, otherwise how am I to fill a slack morning.......  :yawn:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 15, 2011, 12:38:19 pm
I think my clues are currently pretty straightforward, should I (try to) up the ante a bit?

Come on Cofe, it's a two part challenge. 1) Find the answer 2) Come up with a clue containing it, you're halfway there...

(Also I'd welcome a bit of clue feedback, I'm stumbling about in the dark here...)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 15, 2011, 12:46:43 pm
Deleted. Too late.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 15, 2011, 12:54:46 pm
Painter's dislike way to be efficient (9)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 15, 2011, 12:58:08 pm
Nice clue tlr :thumbsup:...

shame it was a bit late.

John you tart stick with the program, your flitting about like a deranged butterfly right now. We need a hoarder clue.

Cofe you 've let me down but worst of all you've let yourself down.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 15, 2011, 01:24:32 pm
Scouse isn't Cofe, unless you know something I don't....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 15, 2011, 01:31:33 pm
Nice clue tlr :thumbsup:...

shame it was a bit late.

John you tart stick with the program, your flitting about like a deranged butterfly right now. We need a hoarder clue.

Cofe you 've let me down but worst of all you've let yourself down.

Deranged butterfly?!  I like that!  Confusion reigns because tlr briefly posted then deleted "drawers used to tie up boats" (8) which I then responded to.  Erm, now I'm confused - what's my name?  :shrug: 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 15, 2011, 01:37:10 pm
Scouse isn't Cofe, unless you know something I don't....
This would all be so much easier if I could read....

Sorry Cofe, Scouse feel my wrath, raaargh.

As a Hoarder clue is not forthcoming lets go with your efficient painter John, OK?

Ready, steady, go.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Scouse D on February 15, 2011, 02:21:32 pm
I didn't read the rules and got a bit excited. Soz ard.
Cofe
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: cofe on February 15, 2011, 02:41:43 pm
ferry, 'cross the mersey. eh eh eh.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Bonjoy on February 15, 2011, 02:57:35 pm
ferry, 'cross the mersey. eh eh eh.
How many letters?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: cofe on February 15, 2011, 03:00:18 pm
Not cat (3).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Kim on February 15, 2011, 06:11:58 pm
If john's 9 isn't a 3-6 then i'm wrong but i'll try this...

Recreate pair of two-strokes with added roar both ends - no point. (13)


Cofe: Not dog (3)  :P
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 15, 2011, 06:18:13 pm
Can you explain where you got two-strokes from please Kim? I'm in the dark...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Kim on February 15, 2011, 06:26:50 pm
I'm hoping painters prefer one stroke and that a two-stroke is a particularly efficient engine.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 15, 2011, 06:30:03 pm
I think two-stroke is actually inefficient, I'm pretty sure it is when compared to four stroke. In fact could it be four-stroke rather than two strokes? I'm still not quite getting it myself, but that doesn't mean anything.... :(
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Kim on February 15, 2011, 06:46:26 pm
Dammit! I could be totally off track. Does john know anything about engines I wonder...  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 15, 2011, 06:49:51 pm
He certainly knows where to park them....

Two-stroke doesn't ring true with me I'm afraid, very tenuous I reckon.

Not that I've got a better answer mind.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 15, 2011, 09:44:20 pm
Llama leads Darwin to witness the fitness (7)

Once its solved, comments on possible improvements welcome!
Well it hasn't been solved, but the answer has been revealed so I'll comment away...

I think it's a good clue (after explanation, I was lost before that) but one thing I would say is that the climbing reference is a tad obscure. I don't know about the others here but I would have discouted a Lama reference straight off as it would require pretty specialist knowledge which I'd assume Mr Average crossworder wouldn't have, especially as it was mis-spelt. But then I'm pretty new to all this so tra-la-la...

Lama leads Darwin to witness the fitness (7)

would perhaps have been better (if that's the right word?) to make the reference a bit clearer and avoid lots of blind-alleying down the alpaca/gnu/camel etc route.

Your further clue helped me not a jot, but that says more about my level of knowledge than anything else.

But overall I liked it, despite it completely bamboozling me. In fact I'm impressed with the clues from all parties thus far.

If you (or anyone else?) would like to return the favour and critique my clues that would be most welcome.

Cheers for feedback. Should have removed the second L, think that put people off - when I was constructing the clue I was thinking of Llamas in S America leading darwin south to patagonia etc etc. After simplification that got dropped but I didn't change the spelling -  :oops:. Not worried about climbing references the average crossworder might struggle with though - think we've all got enough shared climbing background for that sort of stuff to be okay?
15squared (http://fifteensquared.net/) is a pretty good site for clue analyses.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: slackline on February 15, 2011, 11:40:58 pm
No
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 16, 2011, 10:10:55 am
He certainly knows where to park them....

Two-stroke doesn't ring true with me I'm afraid, very tenuous I reckon.

Not that I've got a better answer mind.

Ow, stop digging at an open wound!  :spank:

....any road up, you're wrong and it's 9 not 3,6.....  :P
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 10:15:23 am
Is it additional clue time yet?

I've just got wallpaper stuck in my head...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 16, 2011, 10:44:29 am
Is it additional clue time yet?

I've just got wallpaper stuck in my head...

Wallpaper?  I tart you in return  :P

However, glad to be of service so here's clue two too, same answer.....

Painter's tories on the board (9)

 :-\
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: JamieG on February 16, 2011, 11:26:09 am
Is it Constable?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 16, 2011, 11:43:36 am
Is it Constable?

Yes officer!  Your turn.....  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 11:48:48 am
Can you explain the first clue please John, I'm all at sea.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 16, 2011, 12:01:05 pm
Can you explain the first clue please John, I'm all at sea.


Painter's dislike way to be efficient (9)

Dislike = con as in pros and cons, (not a brilliant synonym I now realise)
way = street, st
efficient = able

so, maybe 7/10 for that one.....   :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: JamieG on February 16, 2011, 12:16:34 pm
I, Constable, am found to be famous (4)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 12:37:59 pm
Insatiable musical icon in Guyana (6)


(forgot a word, doh)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on February 16, 2011, 12:38:48 pm
bugger, too slow.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 12:41:59 pm
Painter's dislike way to be efficient (9)

Dislike = con as in pros and cons, (not a brilliant synonym I now realise)

efficient = able
I think those two synonyms are a bit of a stretch, but then I'm no expert. I guess you get these looser links as things get trickier. Your second clue seems better to me (but maybe it's just easier :shrug:).
Am I the only one offering feedback here? Because I also get the feeling I have probably the least experience of these things so may not be in the best position to offer an opinion (that want stop me offering one mind...)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 16, 2011, 12:58:08 pm
Feedback - some good clues being put together, but some of them don't seem to me to quite make the given answer (or maybe I'm just bitter because I didn't get them.)

eg. 'to be famous' gives ICONIC, not ICON I'd say?

Likewise with Johns first clue 'Painter's doesn't give an artist due to the apostrophe S. I think John's construction after that is fine though (although able for efficient is a bit of a stretch). Second clue was good.

Years of doing the Torygraph crossword has taught me that every word, letter and piece of puntuation is relevant. Generally very little general knowledge is needed, so Dumas clue was pretty obscure.

The correct answers are being found though, so they must be good enough! Maybe I'm not twisted enough.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 16, 2011, 01:18:22 pm
Insatiable musical icon in Guyana (6)


(forgot a word, doh)

Think I've got it, I'll think of a clue and you can tell me I'm wrong....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: JamieG on February 16, 2011, 01:21:40 pm
Feedback - some good clues being put together, but some of them don't seem to me to quite make the given answer (or maybe I'm just bitter because I didn't get them.)

eg. 'to be famous' gives ICONIC, not ICON I'd say?

Fair criticism.

I'd sat at my desk trying to think of a clue for about half an hour before coming up with that . . . and it was lunchtime . . . and I was hungry . . . and . . .

It is really difficult coming up with a clue, plus you have the pressure of everyone else waiting.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 01:24:57 pm
Insatiable musical icon in Guyana (6)


(forgot a word, doh)

Think I've got it, I'll think of a clue and you can tell me I'm wrong....
If you thing you've got it I imagine you have indeed got it. I originally posted the clue without the first word:
Musical icon in Guyana (6)
Which would have been a lot harder I think, but would it still have been a vaild clue in your opinion or is there not enough information in it?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 16, 2011, 01:27:08 pm
Think I've got it, I'll think of a clue and you can tell me I'm wrong....
me too, the race is on...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 01:29:18 pm
I'm finding that it takes me ages to solve a clue but once I have the solution it only take me a few minutes to think of a clue. I suspect this may be because my clues are rubbish.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 16, 2011, 01:31:36 pm
Insatiable musical icon in Guyana (6)


(forgot a word, doh)

Think I've got it, I'll think of a clue and you can tell me I'm wrong....
If you thing you've got it I imagine you have indeed got it. I originally posted the clue without the first word:
Musical icon in Guyana (6)
Which would have been a lot harder I think, but would it still have been a vaild clue in your opinion or is there not enough information in it?
If that's valid, I reckon I haven't got it.
It takes me ages  to do either, and my clues are still l(l)ame, so don't fash yourself as ARFK might say.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 16, 2011, 01:33:23 pm
Oriental revolutionary leaves greedy man drunkenly threadbare. 5
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 16, 2011, 01:40:28 pm
In my opinion without the word insatiable it isn't a valid cryptic crossword clue.

There nearly always has to be a simple synonym in the clue somewhere, usually at the beginning or the end. The rest of the clue confirms the answer and/or helps construct the original synonym.

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 16, 2011, 01:41:38 pm
Well, if I was wrong, at least we were both wrong.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 16, 2011, 01:45:46 pm
My thinking was: GY short for Guyana (Guyanan websites are .gy) with Reed (for Lou Reed I guess) inside.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 16, 2011, 01:50:09 pm
Same here, I just wasn't sure about the gy bit being valid without checking.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 01:52:23 pm
You're both spot on, I was thinking of adding something about a website or something to lead to GY but then it became unwieldy and even more obvious.

I had the synonym in my head but for some reason didn't type it. I guess because I thought of the other bit of the clue first then added the synonym in my head if you get what I mean. But having typed it without it still seemed solvable, although it would probably be very hard.
So there always has to be a synonym?
What about those sound-alike clues do they need synonyms? E.g. Numeral has already eaten we hear? (5) could you drop the numeral?

Or what about clues like Duma's where the answer doesn't really have a synonym (Fitzroy)?

Sorry if this is all basic stuff.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 16, 2011, 02:04:57 pm
‘Eight’ is a numeral, so there is a synonym of sorts.

For Dumas clue I’d say he should have used the word mountain or peak or summit maybe as the ‘synonym’, in the way that John used PAINTER


Wikepedia explains it better than me:

In essence, a cryptic clue leads to its answer as long as you read it in the right way. What the clue appears to say when read normally (the surface reading) is a distraction and usually has nothing to do with the clue answer. The challenge is to find the way of reading the clue that leads to the solution.

A typical clue gives you two ways of getting to the answer, either of which can come first. One part of the clue is a definition, which usually exactly matches the part of speech, tense, and number of the answer. The other part (the subsidiary indication, or wordplay) gives you an alternative route to the answer. (This part would be a second definition in the case of double definition clues.) One of the tasks of the solver is to find the boundary between definition and wordplay and insert a mental pause there when reading the clue cryptically. (Sometimes the two parts are joined with a link word or phrase such as "from" or "could be".)

Because a typical cryptic clue describes its answer in detail and often more than once, the solver can usually have a great deal of confidence in the answer once it has been determined. This is in contrast to non-cryptic crossword clues which often have several possible answers and force the solver to use the crossing letters to distinguish which was intended.

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 02:14:43 pm
‘Eight’ is a numeral, so there is a synonym of sorts.


So:

Numeral has already eaten we hear? (5) is fine

Whereas:

Has already eaten we hear? (5) is not valid

I think I'm starting to get a bit more of a handle on it. So the trick isn't coming up with a clue (which is actually pretty easy) but rather coming up with a clue which follows the rules yet is still unobvious and tricky to solve and yields a definite clear solution.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 16, 2011, 02:27:16 pm
Bingo.

Because in your second version there wouldn't be any confirmation of your answer. Generally in a cryptic crossword you know when you have the right answer.

Try the Saturday Telegraph crossword - its the easiest of the broadsheets I reckon and the only one I regularly finish. The Times is too hard for me and the Guardian is just weird (and so is the crossword....). You don't have to read the rest of the paper if you don't want to.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 02:31:12 pm
Have a wad for services to my cryptic understanding.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 16, 2011, 02:35:00 pm
Bingo.

Because in your second version there wouldn't be any confirmation of your answer. Generally in a cryptic crossword you know when you have the right answer.

Try the Saturday Telegraph crossword - its the easiest of the broadsheets I reckon and the only one I regularly finish. The Times is too hard for me and the Guardian is just weird (and so is the crossword....). You don't have to read the rest of the paper if you don't want to.

....and the Telegraph isn't wierd??   :-\
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 16, 2011, 02:36:38 pm
Try the Saturday Telegraph crossword - its the easiest of the broadsheets I reckon and the only one I regularly finish. The Times is too hard for me.
Ditto. Guardian seems to get more viable once I've got going, but I've never finished one without the family to help. The Quiptics that come out once a week on their website are an ameanable  introduction.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 16, 2011, 03:50:24 pm
Pair calls on mangy scallywag (11)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 16, 2011, 03:56:54 pm
I've got the answer, but I'll leave it a while for someone else.

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 16, 2011, 04:13:12 pm
Deranged rapscallion cuts off head (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 16, 2011, 05:41:01 pm
2 good clues gents.

Adornment for cranial support has filigree. 8
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 06:09:34 pm
I swallow broken necklace instrument. (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on February 16, 2011, 06:17:48 pm
I like the idea of these, but like Nik I am struggling to keep up. If anyone has the time can they say how they got to the answer, so dullards like me can follow.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 06:22:29 pm
I think I've got the reasoning behind most of them so far so if there are any specific solutions you want explaining then say which.

As for tlr's last clue:

cranial (i.e. head) support = neck
filigree = lace
combined to give necklace which is an adornment.
Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 16, 2011, 09:11:21 pm
Oriental revolutionary leaves greedy man drunkenly threadbare. 5
MANGY
Can I get this explained please? Is reed an oriental revolutionary? seems unlikey, esp as its basically undoing what N@W had just done.

-SFM, that's excellent.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 16, 2011, 09:21:16 pm
Chris:
Pair calls on mangy scallywag (11)
RAPSCALLION
Anagram of "pair calls on", indicated by mangy, meaning scallywag

Deranged rapscallion cuts off head (7)
CRANIAL
rapscallion without (off) lops (cuts) = racalin - anagram (deranged) gives cranial, meaning head

hope this helps.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 16, 2011, 09:53:41 pm
Oriental revolutionary leaves greedy man drunkenly threadbare. 5
MANGY
Can I get this explained please? Is reed an oriental revolutionary? seems unlikey, esp as its basically undoing what N@W had just done.

Kind of; in crosswordland oriental often gives 'E' and revolutionary usually means 'RED'. Or 'Che' or indicates anagram.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 16, 2011, 10:12:34 pm
Cheers. I'd got stuck on mao before the answer was posted. Red for revolutionary seems logical, but I was unaware of the oriental E - where does this originate?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 16, 2011, 10:19:38 pm
Oriental means Eastern = E
Occidental means Western = W
Can't remember the North and South terms off the top of my head but that would be my guess for the reasoning.

However I too was busy wondering down a Moa type dead end and was bamboozled by mangy, although after the explanation all is crystal clear (as it should be with a good clue I suppose).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 16, 2011, 10:24:12 pm
Cheers Nik, had just realised my stupidity and come back to edit, but you were too quick and now its too late...

Moa would be way off  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 16, 2011, 10:28:26 pm
Chris:
Pair calls on mangy scallywag (11)
RAPSCALLION
Anagram of "pair calls on", indicated by mangy, meaning scallywag

Deranged rapscallion cuts off head (7)
CRANIAL
rapscallion without (off) lops (cuts) = racalin - anagram (deranged) gives cranial, meaning head

hope this helps.


Shouldn't that have been "lops off head" - as it's envelope-pushing a bit to use synonyms for things inside your word-play?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 17, 2011, 08:07:34 am
I'm not sure exactly what you mean ARFK? It all seems to work as far as I can tell.

You say Mao I say Moa, lets call the whole thing off.... :)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on February 17, 2011, 09:42:03 am
Cheers for explanations guys. Make sense if you think in a wierd enough way.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 17, 2011, 09:56:43 am
Looks like we might need a bit more help with yours Nik.

I guess we are looking for an instrument, either musical or scientific, but I can't construct anything intelligent from 'I swallow broken necklace'. I don't recall which part of the orchestra megulpbustpendant plays in....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 17, 2011, 10:22:51 am
You have the wrong meaning of instrument, I could have used the word contraption instead.

Or for a different clue with the same solution:
Contraption goes at the speed of sound to Northumberland. (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 17, 2011, 10:49:38 am
You have the wrong meaning of instrument, I could have used the word contraption instead.

Or for a different clue with the same solution:
Contraption goes at the speed of sound to Northumberland. (7)

machine therefore includes arse!  (6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 17, 2011, 10:54:56 am
Damn fine thread ARFK!! Waddage....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on February 17, 2011, 11:00:58 am
I can get that from nik's second clue, but not the first?

Explication?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 17, 2011, 11:10:10 am
I swallow broken necklace instrument. (7)
Synonym is instrument (or contraption in later example)
I = me
swallow broken necklace i.e. put whatever broken necklace gives inside me giving:
M _ _ _ _ _ E

broken necklace, actually thinking about it this is a weak part of the clue as you could think it means brek off part of necklace and put that inside me, but that doesn't work. My meaning was a synonym for necklace (chain) broken (mixed up).
 Giving:
M _ _ _ _ _ E containing an anagram of chain and meaning instrument.

MACHINE

In retrospect it would have been better worded as:
I swallow random necklace instrument. (7)

or some other clearer clue to the anagramalisation(??) of the necklace synonym.

I hope that's clear-ish.

Are you allowed to stack clues like that? I.e. find a synonym then reorder it.

The second clue is pretty simple:
speed of sound = MACH I
Northumberland = NE
Contraption = MACH I + NE = MACHINE
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 17, 2011, 11:19:19 am
Nik, second clue is great, but first clue doesn't really abide by the usual rules - protocol dictates that you never anagram a synonym, and even the having to find ME to put round chain is a bit hard.

'me swallows broken chain device' would work, but doesn't exactly scan nicely!

2nd clue works perfectly though.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 17, 2011, 11:30:48 am
Yeah reading back it's all a bit tenuous. Sorry.

Thanks for the feedback, it's very helpful.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 17, 2011, 02:22:49 pm
You have the wrong meaning of instrument, I could have used the word contraption instead.

Or for a different clue with the same solution:
Contraption goes at the speed of sound to Northumberland. (7)

machine therefore includes arse!  (6)


Netherlands’ dinkiest, hyperfine thug excited lesbian

3,3,6,2,3,4

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 17, 2011, 02:53:43 pm


Netherlands’ dinkiest, hyperfine thug excited lesbian

3,3,6,2,3,4


Clever!   ;)

 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 17, 2011, 03:13:23 pm
thanks. It's also very easy of course ;D. Could've put an exclamation mark on the end. Electronic assistance was used. Anyway having been brought out of the woodwork by this thread I now need a rest...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 17, 2011, 05:26:06 pm
thanks. It's also very easy of course ;D. Could've put an exclamation mark on the end. Electronic assistance was used. Anyway having been brought out of the woodwork by this thread I now need a rest...

....easy yes, but it's going to be a swine to work into a clue..........   :spank:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: JamieG on February 17, 2011, 05:57:01 pm
You have the wrong meaning of instrument, I could have used the word contraption instead.

Or for a different clue with the same solution:
Contraption goes at the speed of sound to Northumberland. (7)

machine therefore includes arse!  (6)


Netherlands’ dinkiest, hyperfine thug excited lesbian

3,3,6,2,3,4

I may be being dense, but i don't understand where the answer is, in the above clue. None of the words are 6 letters.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 17, 2011, 06:06:15 pm
thanks. It's also very easy of course ;D. Could've put an exclamation mark on the end. Electronic assistance was used. Anyway having been brought out of the woodwork by this thread I now need a rest...

....easy yes, but it's going to be a swine to work into a clue..........   :spank:


It's very easy to work into a clue if you think Araucarian rather than Ximinean, but you can do it either way. Not everything has to be an anagram...

Or are you saying I've cruised in and spoiled the fun in a smartarsey kind of way, whilst not being as clever as I think I am?  :-\


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 17, 2011, 06:08:15 pm
I may be being dense, but i don't understand where the answer is, in the above clue. None of the words are 6 letters.

It's nether, in Netherlands

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 17, 2011, 06:10:14 pm

It's very easy to work into a clue if you think Araucarian rather than Ximinean, but you can do it either way. Not everything has to be an anagram...

Or are you saying I've cruised in and spoiled the fun in a smartarsey kind of way, whilst not being as clever as I think I am?  :-\

Far from it old bean.  What I meant was it was going to be a swine to work the answer into a clue!  :lol:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 17, 2011, 06:11:23 pm
What's Araucarian? And Ximinean for that matter?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 17, 2011, 06:20:30 pm
they’re both setters. Ximines, taking time out from his day job as a Spanish inquisitor, defined the rules of the modern crossword.

Araucaria, who was ninety yesterday as it goes, is probably regarded as the best setter currently active, and he sets some rather more playful clues where the entire clue may also be the definition.

So say “Amundsen’s forwarding address!” (4) would be “mush”

(Not saying I can actually do them or owt.)

(and on edit - I can think of some fairly straightforward continuations. One might involve repetition, erm, linguistically if you see what I mean.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 17, 2011, 06:42:57 pm
Yeah reading back it's all a bit tenuous. Sorry.

Thanks for the feedback, it's very helpful.
For what it's worth I thought it'd have been fine with a stronger synonym for machine. I swallow=m_ _ _ _e was the first bit I got, and was working on anagrams of synonyms for necklace, but like tlr was thinking musical/medical/scientific.
Johnx2 - I'm not even going to attempt to write a clue with that! Nice though.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on February 17, 2011, 06:59:59 pm
OK - so I've got ---/---/FINGER/IN/THE/DYKE...

One of the three letter words needs to be "Boy", so what am I missing?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 17, 2011, 07:09:43 pm
One of the three letter words needs to be "Boy"

it doesn't
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 17, 2011, 08:16:08 pm
Right here goes nothing. If someone comes up with something better then I'm happy to let this clue bow out but:

Mixed up boy who put his finger in the dyke lost seawater and got even smaller (6)

If nothing else at least it gets the answer down to a managable size. I think this clue is OK but it does require some general knowledge (or a google based alternative perhaps?). Have I said too much...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 17, 2011, 08:30:11 pm
Good effort given what you had to work with. And slapped wrists for John shirking his responsibilities.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 17, 2011, 08:40:37 pm
Shrank away from timid Edward we hear. 5
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 17, 2011, 08:49:49 pm
dammit! my first clue I'm happy with and I'm too slow! (for the record: diminish rank of the dutch dot (6))
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 17, 2011, 09:26:41 pm
Hard luck. Good clue though.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 17, 2011, 10:18:06 pm
Shrank away from timid Edward we hear. 5

shied away from edible shrouds confused your common interest (eight letters - this came out as a bleedin' emoticon )


(and long clues can have short answers - eg nationality of boy who put his finger in the dyke? Nationality of boy who put his finger in the dyke? Makes no sense...

(6, 5)





(double dutch)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 17, 2011, 10:51:22 pm
Small boulder sprinted to have house decorated. 12
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 17, 2011, 11:35:25 pm
Dragon's tail pebbledashed, before knight heard. (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 18, 2011, 10:30:38 am
Good effort given what you had to work with. And slapped wrists for John shirking his responsibilities.

 :guilty:  :spank:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 18, 2011, 11:06:48 am
you want another clue? will be offline till 3 ish in 10 minutes...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 18, 2011, 08:08:06 pm
I'm not going to be on much over the weekend so here's an alternate version:
Snake pebbledashed end, knight heard first (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 18, 2011, 08:14:44 pm
I think I know what it is, but I don't know why. I'll leave it for someone else to get and provide a clue (and a solution explanation pretty please).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 18, 2011, 08:43:06 pm
I think I know too but can only work out the Knight part, ser sounds like sir. But the rest I can't make fit!!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 18, 2011, 09:13:32 pm
Is it possible for a serpent to skip on a road? (5,4)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 18, 2011, 09:20:47 pm
tail of pebbledashed = shed = pent
knight = sir sounds like = ser
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 19, 2011, 07:17:23 am
A-ha, nice one. It was one of those frustrating ones where you are certain you're right but have no real idea why...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 19, 2011, 08:32:03 am
Snake pass to take out the Queen and capture  the old banger ( 10 ) .......

Writing clues is harder than I thought .......   
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on February 19, 2011, 09:46:54 am
Not a word I've ever heard of!

Snitch gets out of shaky rattletrap, go on! 7

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on February 19, 2011, 10:08:51 am
Drop the French prattle with childish protest over tea company (5,3,7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 19, 2011, 10:50:51 am
A green one is manufactured by Pratt and Whitney? [4, 7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: mr__j5 on February 19, 2011, 11:46:49 am
Got the answer but can't find a new clue in my head at the moment
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: mr__j5 on February 19, 2011, 12:12:31 pm
Coming closer to regular aero engines, flying without directions [7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 20, 2011, 10:23:44 am
I think I have the answer but how might directions get rid of the o?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 20, 2011, 11:01:49 am
I need to get rid of an o and an e, and I've already used "without directions" to drop an e and an s...
Think I may be way off. My other possiblility needs to find a b from somewhere.  :-\
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: mr__j5 on February 20, 2011, 10:21:37 pm
I need to get rid of an o and an e, and I've already used "without directions" to drop an e and an s...
Think I may be way off. My other possiblility needs to find a b from somewhere.  :-\

No. You are there.

'regular' means pick letters at regular intervals from ...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 20, 2011, 10:41:32 pm
Cheers - so as I understand it, the synonym is "coming  closer", "regular" indicates I should use the a and r from "aero", "without directions" tells  us to drop the es (east and south) from "engines", and finally "flying" indicates an anagram of what  remains - arengin, to give NEARING - yes?

Phew!

Nearing regular significance (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: mr__j5 on February 21, 2011, 10:25:54 am
Correct
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 21, 2011, 11:19:02 pm
I seem to have killed this thread...

same answer, different clue:

hostile spirit wavers, nearing definition (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on February 22, 2011, 03:22:43 pm
I seem to have killed this thread...

same answer, different clue:

hostile spirit wavers, nearing definition (7)

Meaning man? (6,7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 23, 2011, 05:53:13 am
Dammit, there's no way I can get that into a clue.
Being at the end of a night shift is probably not helping tho...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 23, 2011, 08:15:07 am
This is the best I can come up with:
Samuel Johnson's professional, compact, american vehicle (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on February 23, 2011, 08:36:52 am
It isn't Samuel Johnson......

Or any 'actual' person.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on February 23, 2011, 10:00:53 am
Samuel Johnson's professional, compact, american vehicle (5)

But I think yours is 'Lexus'
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 23, 2011, 04:48:14 pm
 :oops:

back to the floor it goes then..

(you were right about mine)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on February 23, 2011, 04:55:22 pm
I can't get meaning into it but have another clue...

Male highway fury is the norm (6,7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 24, 2011, 05:20:49 am
I fear this may be (half) wrong as well but no one else seems to be playing.

Johnny Average's DIY hit singles? (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 24, 2011, 11:58:04 pm
Are these too hard? too easy? just not very good? or did you all just bore of the thread?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 25, 2011, 12:56:20 am
Are these too hard? too easy? just not very good? or did you all just bore of the thread?

rather than reclue, stick in some unches?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 25, 2011, 04:08:40 am
Are these too hard? too easy? just not very good? or did you all just bore of the thread?

rather than reclue, stick in some unches?

?

by unches do you mean hunches? and by that do you mean hints?

(http://www.tattoosbydesign.com/rate_my_tattoo/tattoos/tattoo/act/Ramones_Logo_7237291968840.jpg)

(looking at the url is cheating)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 25, 2011, 07:53:04 am
Hmmmmmm ...... Well that's the Ramones logo ....... All I have to do now is work out how it fits with the clue  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 25, 2011, 10:38:31 am
 :shrug: more help required.....I'm far to thick.....  :P
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 25, 2011, 07:47:11 pm
Hmmmmmm ...... Well that's the Ramones logo ....... All I have to do now is work out how it fits with the clue  ;D
Indeed it is, now how might 'johnny' 'diy' 'hit' and 'units' get us to Ramones I wonder? :-\
Come on people, I need clues (preferably not as rubbish as mine) to work on.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 25, 2011, 08:31:07 pm
Well ram is hit and singles is ones.

Backstabbing crazy Ramones at war without negative consequences. (6,8)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 26, 2011, 09:10:27 am
Well ram is hit and singles is ones.

Backstabbing crazy Ramones at war without negative consequences. (6,8)

I got the single and hit bit ..... It was the Johnny Average DIY  part that I couldn't make head nor tail of  :dontgetit:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 26, 2011, 01:56:25 pm
My thinking was Johnny Ramone but yeah the average DIY part has me stumped too  :agree:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 26, 2011, 09:11:18 pm
The average bit has nothing to do with it - but johnny average was the answer to the last clue. DIY was just there as a punk reference - further confirmation. I couldn't get a direct synonym for Ramones in without it becoming ridiculously easy. Apologies if it derailed anyone - I thought the hit singles bit was quite straightforward and Johnny and DIY would confirm. Now it's not twenty past five in the morning I can see that something like "Johnny Average's hit singles band" would have been better. Anyway, enough of analysing my sleep deprived failings, onward to sfm's clue...

...which I'd like a hint for please
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 27, 2011, 12:55:55 am
Sorry people my last clue should read "Backstabbing crazy Ramones at war without negative consequences. (5,8)" and not (6,8)  :oops:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 28, 2011, 11:23:51 am
Sorry people my last clue should read "Backstabbing crazy Ramones at war without negative consequences. (5,8)" and not (6,8)  :oops:

Right, I could be completely hat stand here, but it's a pretty elegant solution none the less  :smartass:

Wrote anagrams to self, oh not original! Elementary dear. (6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 28, 2011, 02:22:01 pm
Not the answer I was looking for I'm afraid!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on February 28, 2011, 02:57:02 pm
Not the answer I was looking for I'm afraid!

Damn!  Still, it's cool that an anagram of Ramones at war with the letter g is 'wrote anagrams'!  Am I at least on the right track?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 28, 2011, 03:15:30 pm
There's an anagram in there but not for all of it!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 28, 2011, 03:25:42 pm
Mudslinging crazy Ramones without negative consequences go on a war footing (5,8)
The order of this one should make more sense. I hope!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 28, 2011, 07:33:11 pm
Can you give us some letters?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on February 28, 2011, 07:52:43 pm
A visual clue for the first word http://farm1.static.flickr.com/96/213844437_d294fc572d.jpg?v=0 (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/96/213844437_d294fc572d.jpg?v=0)
I'll give you some letters if you still can't it.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 28, 2011, 08:03:41 pm
Broadcast smear campaign in hi-fi (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 01, 2011, 10:15:44 pm
It was ARCAM. I'll go away now.

:wavecry:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 02, 2011, 07:13:20 am
Why are you going away Duma?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 02, 2011, 08:37:49 am
Cos you all ignore me, and I fear that my clueing efforts are hampering this thread. Oh, woe is me!

/sulk/


 ;)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 02, 2011, 08:55:12 am
After a frantic week or so of work I was looking forward to pondering the latest offering from your warped mind  ;)

Oh well, where does this leave us now?? I think you should devise another clue with Arcam in it (that'll teach you to give away answers) and this time allow us busy folks more than 24 hours to get befuddled :)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 02, 2011, 10:00:59 am
Oh go on then, I'm so weak.
Don't think this'll take much pondering though...

Drinking club upgrades to Arcam stereo (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 02, 2011, 10:01:55 am
After a frantic week or so of work I was looking forward to pondering the latest offering from your warped mind  ;)

Oh well, where does this leave us now?? I think you should devise another clue with Arcam in it (that'll teach you to give away answers) and this time allow us busy folks more than 24 hours to get befuddled :)

 :agree:  Come on Duma, man up and give us another clue.  Look, here's me and nik waiting with baited breath  :popcorn:

damn, too slow!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 02, 2011, 10:47:56 am
I wager a mix up at CAMRA will drop a cheese (9)

Been off this for several days so apologies in advance if it's a poor effort...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 02, 2011, 11:17:26 am
You’re out of luck, it’s not camembert! (4,6)

(looking up the thread
Quote
Wrote anagrams to self, oh not original! Elementary dear. (6)
was left hanging. It would have followed the rules if it had ended   "...oh not original doctor!" Or even just ended with an ellipsis. Sorry, these really things matter. Anyway it could give the quick one: Watson’s Austin novel (4)

I was trying to stitch these two together but it was getting a bit convoluted (I failed), but it could be done easily enough now.).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on March 02, 2011, 11:21:44 am
Hard Cheese - Nic at it in a sinking boat (7)

Sorry if I didn't follow rules and it's too easy. Wanted to get in there and have my moment of glory.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 02, 2011, 11:24:27 am
Well the second one is Emma (I think), but that's not the active clue.

As for the first:

Hard Cheese for lady with a quartet of songs I've heard.(10)

Awww forget it, you bugger SA Chris...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on March 02, 2011, 11:27:58 am
Soz, but you have gazumped me more than once. Mine is up for grabs!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 02, 2011, 11:31:50 am
Right then, tweak city:

Titanic bad luck for lady with quartet of songs I've heard (10)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 02, 2011, 12:07:22 pm
(looking up the thread
Quote
Wrote anagrams to self, oh not original! Elementary dear. (6)
was left hanging. It would have followed the rules if it had ended   "...oh not original doctor!" Or even just ended with an ellipsis. Sorry, these really things matter. Anyway it could give the quick one: Watson’s Austin novel (4)

Broke the rules by not including the correct answer as well! I've been very slack with the "rules". Didn't realise how much they matter - hard to see how hard stuff is from the perspective of knowing the answer. Problem I have is it seems very difficult to write interesting clues when one is constrained by the "rules", having to include (and use somehow use) the previous answer, and not being very familiar with all the conventions (er for queen, etc. etc.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 02, 2011, 12:28:30 pm
and not being very familiar with all the conventions (er for queen, etc. etc.)
This is the bit I'm struggling with too. I think all my clues are either a bit simple because I'm not using these secret conventions to make my clues a bit more tricksome.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 02, 2011, 01:08:00 pm
Nice work saving the clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 02, 2011, 02:57:42 pm
Perhaps Gun Boat suffers misfortune? 8.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 02, 2011, 06:58:45 pm
It's a new  hardship being without high definition for this  congregation ( 6 )   
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 02, 2011, 07:23:40 pm
Sounds like bishop's parish in the main. 3
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 02, 2011, 10:28:11 pm
Seaside hovel song. 6.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 03, 2011, 10:06:14 am
Response to shantyman’s call about an emaciated fighter? Outcast sing this on the road! (3,3,2).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on March 03, 2011, 10:14:54 am
I would say Hey Ya, but not enough words :)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 03, 2011, 10:20:45 am
yes, and... appended to a common crossword synonym for road...

Alternatively google 'shantyman' click on the first entry and scroll down. My favourite clues are those that make me smile and slightly and nod. On the train. Whilst stroking my chin. 


(Edit to add that yes that is a bastard to clue, but I've just put together a reasonable one so it can be done.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 03, 2011, 12:00:03 pm
I've just put together a reasonable one so it can be done
As someone who grew up on an old boat singing a lot of shanties, think I can say that the first half is pretty obscure if I didn't get it.
Having said that:
Miss a target - wayhey! Yachtie types party. 7.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 03, 2011, 12:32:16 pm
Could someone please explain what the answer is for tlr's clue
Sounds like bishop's parish in the main. 3
And why, I can't see a three letter word in Duma's clue
Seaside hovel song. 6.
Is SEA the answer? Why?

And is the answer to  Johnx2's clue way hey ya? Again a little explanation would be good, and what does way hey ya mean??
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 03, 2011, 12:42:33 pm
a bishops parish is a "see". the main is the "sea" (eg spanish main). "see" sounds like "sea".

a road is a "way". "hey ya" is an outcast song. Also, "way hey ya" is the response in the call and response sea shanty "boney was a warrior" (this is harsh i think)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 03, 2011, 12:49:48 pm
Spot on explaining my clue.

I didn't have a scooby doo about Johnx2s clue!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 03, 2011, 12:50:09 pm
Cheers Duma.
a bishops parish is a "see".
I didn't know that.

Quote
"way hey ya" is the response in the call and response sea shanty "boney was a warrior" (this is harsh i think)
And I really didn't know that.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 03, 2011, 01:00:10 pm
Well I might have got it if i didn't have the additional barrier of a synonym for boney warrior to get through, as it was I did as suggested and googled. And this is with the advantadge of my upbringing... In Johnx2's defence the second half was fairly easy so the shanty knowledge was only confirmation, plus I'm really in no position to critique others clues!!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 03, 2011, 04:34:37 pm
I've just put together a reasonable one so it can be done
As someone who grew up on an old boat singing a lot of shanties, think I can say that the first half is pretty obscure if I didn't get it.
Having said that:

a warrior and a tarrier,
ooooh Jean-François!

By 'reasonable one' I meant a way of putting 'way hey ya' into a doable clue, which I thought would be difficult but you managveed very nicely....

Quote from: Duma
Miss a target - wayhey! Yachtie types party. 7.

...but unfortunately I can't do it.


(Presumably 'miss a target' or just 'miss' is the definition. Party could be an anag signfier I guess, can't see what the other bits are doing.) 





Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 03, 2011, 04:37:57 pm
I suppose it would be better with something like "knock over a target" if that helps. doesn't scan as nicely though.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 03, 2011, 05:23:51 pm
Gas gay aery troll removed from Henley Royal Regatta? [6]

(t'interweb attests to the veracity of the word "aery", but I'm not convinced it's a real word. My (1990!) COD only has "aerie" and then only as a variant of "eyrie".)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 03, 2011, 06:25:43 pm
Confused Ethane is less masculine? Explosive (4)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 03, 2011, 06:48:18 pm
Sneakily, owls craftily cop something that might be found on Etna? [11,4]


(and definitely 11,4. dotage struck, unfortunately)

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 03, 2011, 07:05:02 pm
[smug beyond buggery]

While we're on the subject of crosswords

- got my Private Eye yesterday evening, started it last night

- started to fill it in this morning waiting for my blood test

- and smashed it, I say *SMASHED IT* at lunchtime!!! :smartass:

[/smug beyond buggery]

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 03, 2011, 08:07:55 pm
That is a fine achievement indeed! Hats off, the only 'proper' crossword I stand a chance with on my own is the telegraph.

Cory escaped the pyroclastic flow, by being flexible! (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 03, 2011, 08:21:30 pm
That is a fine achievement indeed! Hats off, the only 'proper' crossword I stand a chance with on my own is the telegraph.

Cory escaped the pyroclastic flow, by being flexible! (7)

That's more impressive than my usual standard which is "Everyman" in the Observer on Sundays!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 03, 2011, 08:28:21 pm
I wouldn't call it my 'usual standard', just I feel like there's some possiblility of success!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 03, 2011, 08:31:01 pm
I never claimed I completed it...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 03, 2011, 08:55:39 pm
Plastic fans discovered forgers at Zeebrugge? [6]

Clues - should you need them (& you need them both for it to make sense.)

http://bit.ly/fj4yPE (http://bit.ly/fj4yPE)

http://bit.ly/fyy3A2 (http://bit.ly/fyy3A2)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 04, 2011, 10:51:58 am
are you sure? Saw that one first glance but not sure I get the pictures unless its a ref to WWII coffee...

Anyway,

The german ersatz player can shoot! (9)



Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 04, 2011, 02:53:46 pm
are you sure? Saw that one first glance but not sure I get the pictures unless its a ref to WWII coffee... [1]

Anyway,

The german ersatz player can shoot! (9) [2]

[1] Yep.

[2] :clap2:

Mutilated and hung Derringer as an example? [7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 04, 2011, 02:55:46 pm
 :agree:  Good clue  :clap2:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 04, 2011, 03:07:49 pm
Perennial transexual and endless idiot infiltrate handgun (9)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 07, 2011, 11:41:25 am
Perennial transexual and endless idiot infiltrate handgun (9)

 :tumble:

...what?  Too crap?  Too hard?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 07, 2011, 03:23:48 pm
I can't do it. But that doesn't mean it's crap and certainly doesn't mean it's hard.

I suspect the answer may be some kind of bush so my mind just slides away as it does with anything potentially gardening related. (And probably I shouldn't've googled synonyms of transexual from work with safe search off. On a picture search. Set to large results only.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 07, 2011, 03:36:59 pm
I'm struggling, clue time?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 07, 2011, 04:02:20 pm
I keep thinking it's 'hydrangea ' , and that's now stuck in my head  :chair: ...... Definitely time for a clue
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 07, 2011, 07:59:02 pm
Perennial transexual and endless idiot infiltrate handgun (9)

 :tumble:
  :shrug:



I'm struggling, clue time?

 :agree:




 :jab:  :jab: :jab:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 08, 2011, 10:00:34 am
Come on John, stop getting sidetracked on this Houndkirk flim-flam and get back with the program.

It's clue time baby.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 08, 2011, 10:15:06 am
Sorry guys, I've been a bad boy....  :spank: 

Plant handgun loaded with loud soot mixture (9)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 08, 2011, 10:27:46 am
Come on John, stop getting sidetracked on this Houndkirk flim-flam and get back with the program.

It's clue time baby.

Believe me Nik, I would if I could but the bleedin' phone won't stop ringing...  :worms:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 08, 2011, 10:33:49 am
Vegetarian is Welshman consumed by coltsfoot and drug. 9
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 08, 2011, 10:51:24 am
Vegetarian is Welshman consumed by coltsfoot and drug. 9

Phew!  :coffee:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 08, 2011, 10:54:57 am
I can't do it. But that doesn't mean it's crap and certainly doesn't mean it's hard.

I suspect the answer may be some kind of bush so my mind just slides away as it does with anything potentially gardening related. (And probably I shouldn't've googled synonyms of transexual from work with safe search off. On a picture search. Set to large results only.

 :lol:  :oops:  :slap:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 08, 2011, 03:37:32 pm
Vegetarian is Welshman consumed by coltsfoot and drug. 9


Should really be:

Vegetarian Welshman is consumed by coltsfoot and drug. 9

Sorry, some poor copy and pasting on my part. Doesn't make much of a difference though.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 08, 2011, 07:55:50 pm
Can I get the first clue for coltsfoot explained pls?
Also re the second clue, does loud=f? If so, why?

sorry for denseness...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 08, 2011, 08:05:32 pm
F = forte which means loud in musical land.

I hate music clues and horticultural clues! 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 08, 2011, 08:26:55 pm
Brilliant, thanks! Any idea on the first one?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 08, 2011, 08:49:49 pm
Perennial transexual and endless idiot infiltrate handgun (9)
I think this is right.
The whole thing is a perennial

transexual = ts*
endless idiot = fool with the end taken off = foo
infiltrate handgun = put tr + foo into "handgun"
handgun = colt

col_____t, insert ts + foo = coltsfoot

*not 100% about this bit, it's more reverse engineered than anything else but can't come up with an alternative :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 08, 2011, 08:58:40 pm
Vegetarian is Welshman consumed by coltsfoot and drug. 9


Should really be:

Vegetarian Welshman is consumed by coltsfoot and drug. 9

Sorry, some poor copy and pasting on my part. Doesn't make much of a difference though.



Help!  :please:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 08, 2011, 09:20:45 pm
naive herbivore eats everything (6)

Explanation for arfk:
coltsfoot = herb
drug = e
welshman = ivor
ivor "consumed" by herb and e = herb ivor e
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 08, 2011, 09:32:03 pm
no. Now I've seen the answer it's apples.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 08, 2011, 10:01:32 pm
Mechanical lion in broadcast television programme starring Simon Callow? [6,2,1,7]

[minor edit for clarity and linguistic accuracy]

(oh. And well-worked & elegant clue, nik)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 09, 2011, 07:39:10 am
Thank-you.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 09, 2011, 07:52:29 am
Clear air reportedly given by a chance in a million. 4,4
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 09, 2011, 08:51:34 am
F = forte which means loud in musical land.

I hate music clues and horticultural clues!

 :sorry: feel free to  :chair:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 09, 2011, 08:53:20 am
Perennial transexual and endless idiot infiltrate handgun (9)
The whole thing is a perennial

transexual = ts*
endless idiot = fool with the end taken off = foo
infiltrate handgun = put tr + foo into "handgun"
handgun = colt

col_____t, insert ts + foo = coltsfoot

*not 100% about this bit, it's more reverse engineered than anything else but can't come up with an alternative :shrug:
 

Spot on Nik.  Thought everyone knew that transexual was ts   :whistle: :-[
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 10, 2011, 07:39:46 am
Ok, 24 hours is up so time for new clue. Same answer. Sorry if the first one was a bit hard.

Plastic soldier leads, excited ukc beginner seconds by sheer chance. 4,4
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 10, 2011, 12:03:24 pm
Spot on Nik.  Thought everyone knew that transexual was ts   :whistle: :-[

We don't all move in those circles john...

tlr, despite much time spent mulling, I still have no justifiable ideas for the first word...
(fiend is 5 letters sadly)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 10, 2011, 12:32:34 pm
OK (hopefully) got it, still don't understand the first clue, or the first part of the second though, which makes me doubt myself.

Off to spend lunch failing at clue composition now...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 10, 2011, 02:54:42 pm
Still can't make my answer fit properly, so I rather expect this to be a wasted clue.
Anyway...
Hard luck, lost a Chinese colony before the queen's setter. [7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 10, 2011, 02:59:15 pm
I don't think that's quite right...

How about:

It’s got it by pure luck? Flummoxed without he hideous mature arse.


Pure because PU = Poly Urethane = plastic; RE = Royal Engineers = soldier
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 10, 2011, 03:02:52 pm
sounds better - I just got excited by excited....

Any light on the first clue?

Edited to add: how many letters?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 10, 2011, 03:03:43 pm
Sorry Duma, John's right.

First clue was simply synonyms for CLEAR and AIR (giving LOOK, reportedly indicating a homophone). Quite hard without any unches I think. I was trying to avoid anagrams too.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 10, 2011, 03:09:31 pm
yeah my clue's unfortunately very shite and mechanical, best I could do in 2 mins , I'm stupid busy but will look in with cclues later if nec.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 10, 2011, 03:10:40 pm
thanks for explanation tlr - no need to apologise, I knew there was something wrong... missed that sense of reportedly.

Also can someone explain "unches" for me?

Edited to remove stupid question...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 10, 2011, 03:15:32 pm
johnx2 we need a letter count! and am I right in assuming you meant "the" not "he"?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 10, 2011, 03:23:05 pm
Unches are the cross checked spaces in crossword grids.

Looks like you've worked out that air and look can mean the same....

RE is often indicated by soldier, as is GI - I don't make these abbreviations up, honest, they are generally accepted in cryptic crosswords; I believe they appear in a dictionary or something. Not sure I've ever seen transexual for TS though....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 10, 2011, 03:28:42 pm
Yeah RE did ring a bell once I was told, wasn't querying the validity of anything!
Where/how does unches originate then?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 10, 2011, 03:32:00 pm
Unches are the cross checked spaces in crossword grids.

Looks like you've worked out that air and look can mean the same....

RE is often indicated by soldier, as is GI - I don't make these abbreviations up, honest, they are generally accepted in cryptic crosswords; I believe they appear in a dictionary or something. Not sure I've ever seen transexual for TS though....

Oh, come on, they use it in the Telegraph all the time....  :w00t:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 10, 2011, 03:33:10 pm
Sorry, unches are the UNCHEcked spaces in the grid.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 10, 2011, 03:39:10 pm
It’s got by pure luck? Flummoxed without hideous mature arse.
( 8 )



ah bollocks  :guilty:, shouldn't try to post whislt on phone.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 10, 2011, 03:46:21 pm
Unches are the cross checked spaces in crossword grids.
Sorry, unches are the UNCHEcked spaces in the grid.
:???:
I am confused. I had understood that they were the spaces where one answer crossed another, so you could gain letters in your target answer by solving other clues - now I'm not sure...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 10, 2011, 03:55:49 pm
Yeah, sorry, I meant to write ‘non crosschecked’ the first time I replied.

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 10, 2011, 04:15:33 pm
Sorry for my continuing denseness...
still confused.
you seem to be saying that my initial impression was wrong - but then I don't see how unches would help??
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 10, 2011, 04:32:27 pm
First clue was simply synonyms for CLEAR and AIR (giving LOOK, reportedly indicating a homophone). Quite hard without any unches I think. I was trying to avoid anagrams too.

Ahh, I see the reason for your confusion - me using the word unches wrongly. Obviously I should have said 'Quite hard without any cross checked letters I think.'

Apologies. Carry on.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 10, 2011, 04:38:31 pm
WHAT?!?!?
but that would mean that the whole joy of unches sounding like hunches is undermined.

rubbish word, I'm against it.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 11, 2011, 10:02:16 am
good, so now that's cleared up I'd like another clue please.

Which unfortunately means someone's got to solve my shite one.

Probably only going to be done by guessing the answer from the, ahem, one word definiition, I said one word definition,  and then it's easy enough I hope to work backwards to see how the rest of the clue works.


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 11, 2011, 12:07:38 pm
come on, come on! Clue anyone?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 14, 2011, 08:07:48 am
I'm stumped ...... Gis a clue ....... 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 14, 2011, 09:43:52 am
the definition is either right at the at the beginning or right at the end of the clue, and in this case it's just one word. Flummoxed signifies and anagram. The shite bit is that 'without' means that you take some letters out of the anagram pool, in this case two four letter synonyms for hideous and mature. 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 14, 2011, 10:00:14 am
 :thumbsup: OK, let's get things moving with an easy one:

Wobble buttocks might lead to skid row (4,6)

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 14, 2011, 04:14:17 pm
:thumbsup: OK, let's get things moving with an easy one:

Wobble buttocks might lead to skid row (4,6)

 :tumble:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 15, 2011, 12:38:38 pm
Well I thought it was easy, and there's no botanical references nor nothing.....

 :ang:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 15, 2011, 01:32:40 pm
looking in... I can't solve it.

Wobble - looks like an anag signifier

buttocks - you had to have in

might - don't know what this word is doing unless it's supplying the letter 'm'

lead - does this mean first letter of something?

to skid row - the definition?

(4,6) - can't find 10 letters. But if it's not an anagram what is it? Not a pun as I can't think of anything  common that means 'wobble buttocks', a somewhat distracting phrase...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 15, 2011, 02:51:31 pm
looking in... I can't solve it.

Wobble - looks like an anag signifier

buttocks - you had to have in

might - don't know what this word is doing unless it's supplying the letter 'm'

lead - does this mean first letter of something?

to skid row - the definition?

(4,6) - can't find 10 letters. But if it's not an anagram what is it? Not a pun as I can't think of anything  common that means 'wobble buttocks', a somewhat distracting phrase...

  I'm a simple soul john, it's much more straightforward.  Synonyms required for two words, 'might lead to' indicating that the definition is at the end, nothing more  :sorry:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 15, 2011, 03:54:00 pm


Broken drain hits rock bottom. 5
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 15, 2011, 05:23:20 pm
With deposits of lithium and potassium - but depleted of iridium - a nadir explored by Wilfred Thesiger? [7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 15, 2011, 06:43:32 pm
That chap from Danakil isn't very near (4)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 15, 2011, 08:34:15 pm
Where the Afar found exotic wind instrument? [4,2,5]


[4,2,6]  :oops:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 15, 2011, 11:32:43 pm
Horn of Africa (nice clue btw)

Argute wandering Saharan, shorn of African roots, buys SUV? [6]

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 16, 2011, 08:11:13 am
Before being  spoilt the soldier makes a shrewd withdrawal ( 7 ) 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 16, 2011, 11:45:28 am
No.
But I can see how you got to shrewd - in fact that's probably better than the answer I was aiming for!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 16, 2011, 11:59:07 am
I've got the answer now, but first of all I came up with Sharan! (anagram of Saharan without A for African), but couldn't work out where argute came in. And I was thinking that Sharan is a people carrier not really an SUV.

Anyway, clue to follow.....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 16, 2011, 01:19:34 pm
Etiquette behind tutu? A regulation for entry! (4,4).

Quite pleased with this clue finally.

Involving the previous answer in the clue is by far the hardest part.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 16, 2011, 03:47:22 pm
Involving the previous answer in the clue is by far the hardest part.
But you've managed it very cunningly!
I've got the answer now, but first of all I came up with Sharan! (anagram of Saharan without A for African), but couldn't work out where argute came in. And I was thinking that Sharan is a people carrier not really an SUV.
:lol:
Three way clue! I'm better than I thought!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 16, 2011, 03:49:14 pm
Etiquette behind tutu? A regulation for entry! (4,4).
You sure it's not [5,4]?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 16, 2011, 03:51:57 pm
Erm, oh aye, that'll be it. 5,4 it is.

Apologies, I always was better with words than numbers.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 16, 2011, 05:02:08 pm
Thought so. Work's a bit hectic at the moment so if anyone else's got it, feel free to get involved, I may be some time...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 16, 2011, 06:34:28 pm
Horn of Africa (nice clue btw)

Argute wandering Saharan, shorn of African roots, buys SUV? [6]

OK. Can anyone explain the wordplay -

Before being  spoilt the soldier makes a shrewd withdrawal ( 7 )


and the definition and the wordplay?

Etiquette behind tutu? A regulation for entry! (4,4).

Quite pleased with this clue finally.

Involving the previous answer in the clue is by far the hardest part.

to this confused old fart?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 16, 2011, 06:35:47 pm
Erm, oh aye, that'll be it. 5,4 it is.

Apologies, I always was better with words than numbers.

Tchah! What sort of dullard makes mistakes counting the number of letters. :slap:   Duh!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 16, 2011, 06:44:39 pm
Horn of Africa (nice clue btw)

Argute wandering Saharan, shorn of African roots, buys SUV? [6]

OK. Can anyone explain the wordplay -

Before being  spoilt the soldier makes a shrewd withdrawal ( 7 )


and the definition and the wordplay?

Etiquette behind tutu? A regulation for entry! (4,4).

Quite pleased with this clue finally.

Involving the previous answer in the clue is by far the hardest part.

to this confused old fart?

Tuareg is the answer.
Argute is an anagram of Tuareg (indicated by wandering)
a Tuareg might be defined as a "wandering Saharan"
As a nomad he might also be "shorn of (african) roots"
A tuareg is also a particually objectionable model of volkswagen.

Don't know the answer to grumpycrumpys, I think his reasoning was something like: one meaning of argute is shrewd, and one might argue that for a wandering Saharan shorn of roots an SUV would be a shrewd investment?

TLR's is a reply to me [Etiquette behind tutu? A regulation for entry!], not grumpycrumpy, as his isn't valid on account of being wrong...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 16, 2011, 07:14:58 pm
Oh TLR's is superb then! I completely missed that, and hang my head in apologetic shame.

Congrats to the pair of you for both coming up with "container" answers to the clue before.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 16, 2011, 08:08:11 pm
Dress code.

Published research and development on Queen's dress code. [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 16, 2011, 08:41:29 pm
 :oops:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 16, 2011, 08:44:54 pm
alternative spelling of cryptanalyst? can't find any mention online.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 16, 2011, 08:56:25 pm
alternative spelling of cryptanalyst? can't find any mention online.



Apolgies everyone,  I've now realized the entire clue is cooked.

Ignore it
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 17, 2011, 10:53:45 am
alternative spelling of cryptanalyst? can't find any mention online.



Apolgies everyone,  I've now realized the entire clue is cooked.

Ignore it

New clue?  :chair:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 17, 2011, 01:33:38 pm
“Gleeful hints” - new tune on an old recorder [7,5]

(Not exactly Ximenean,  but tweaked slightly to allow for better scansion)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 17, 2011, 02:55:28 pm
Except the answer wasn't recorder, but I think you know this...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 17, 2011, 07:30:36 pm
Aaargh.


F*ucvkimg Bollocksing Arse!!!

In  that case.

Recorded humiliating retort [3,4]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 17, 2011, 09:29:19 pm
The person who has to ensure servant faces the correct way has a book one can't put down. (4,6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 17, 2011, 10:04:21 pm
Reading crazy page turner once without regarding Seb is offensive (10)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 17, 2011, 10:09:19 pm
The person who has to ensure servant faces the correct way
:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 18, 2011, 08:05:49 am
 
Before being  spoilt the soldier makes a shrewd withdrawal ( 7 )

retreat

I've forgotten how I came to 'shrewd' , but it did make perfect sense at the time ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Lund on March 18, 2011, 10:15:49 am
Reading crazy page turner once without regarding Seb is offensive (10)

Er... should that be NINE letters?

Sorry, am new at this game.  Might be on crack.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Lund on March 18, 2011, 10:26:54 am
Reading crazy page turner once without regarding Seb is offensive (10)

Er... should that be NINE letters?

Sorry, am new at this game.  Might be on crack.

In fact, nope - am wrong.  Nearly there, but have a missing letter issue.  So shall wait for someone else to get it.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 18, 2011, 11:32:07 am
Common, repugnant, expecting? 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 18, 2011, 11:34:49 am
Common, repugnant, expecting?

Numbers John?  :whip:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 18, 2011, 11:41:32 am
Common, repugnant, expecting?

Pregnant Hon? You must contain Cleo's Beau!   (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 18, 2011, 11:52:40 am
Reading crazy page turner once without regarding Seb is offensive (10)

Er... should that be NINE letters?

Sorry, am new at this game.  Might be on crack.

actually I may be on the seven gram rocks myself. Page turner once = anag pool? Regarding = re; seb = coe, so without regarding seb = take recoe out of the pool, leaving repugnant which is 9 letters. Erm...? Shouldn't do this in a hurry.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Lund on March 18, 2011, 12:01:12 pm
Reading crazy page turner once without regarding Seb is offensive (10)

Er... should that be NINE letters?

Sorry, am new at this game.  Might be on crack.

actually I may be on the seven gram rocks myself. Page turner once = anag pool? Regarding = re; seb = coe, so without regarding seb = take recoe out of the pool, leaving repugnant which is 9 letters. Erm...? Shouldn't do this in a hurry.

This is exactly what I was thinking.  Then I managed to convince myself i was wrong.  I wish I'd just gone with it as on re-reading it is blatantly right.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 18, 2011, 12:12:50 pm
Quote
Pregnant Hon? You must contain Cleo's Beau!   (7)

Anthony and Declan's old hangout sounds like Hell's Angel wood! (5,5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 18, 2011, 12:32:04 pm
Velocipede for old biker? Grovel after exercising once. (3-2-3-3).

Can someone explain how the U is dropped from repugnant to give pregnant please?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 18, 2011, 12:37:07 pm
common = non-U

A fifties posho thing I think: toilet = non-U, infra dig etc; lavatory/shitter = U


here we go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U_and_non-U_English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U_and_non-U_English)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 18, 2011, 12:44:47 pm
Cheers, I'd never heard of that before.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 18, 2011, 12:50:41 pm
Common, repugnant, expecting?

Numberless or not, nice clue John.....  :clap2:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 18, 2011, 01:16:27 pm
...thanks (not that keen on it myself by hey) and yeah sorry no number. Should be doing two other things so my last for now (underlining to show answer to the last one as it's a bit hidden otherwise):

Blows it up and begins over again to perfect world. (6)



(edited to make my comments vaguely english, and the clue a bit harder/funnier but changed my mind. But it was really good, honest.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 18, 2011, 01:41:44 pm
Utopian, a great price for an apple? 5
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on March 18, 2011, 11:38:40 pm
Endless apologies Lund, I am an idiot who can't even count to nine (or ten). Sorry, Johnx2's explanation was spot on.

Sorry again.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 19, 2011, 07:50:23 am
Ideal shot with craft on course ( 9 )
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Lund on March 19, 2011, 04:59:08 pm
Endless apologies Lund, I am an idiot who can't even count to nine (or ten). Sorry, Johnx2's explanation was spot on.

Sorry again.

No worries!  It's just a game innit.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 20, 2011, 06:59:28 am
Right , well , I'm off for a few days , so if anyone does need a clue you might have to wait until thursday  :sorry:   
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on March 20, 2011, 08:13:51 pm
So...in stark contrast to normal weekends I've had a stormer on a) the Saturday Guardian Prize Cryptic that b) is set by Araucaria - a setter I'd normally never bother even trying!

I've got a good few to go - but don't want to just be told...can you anyone hint me towards, say, 13 Across? I've got

Y-R-----K

For "...doctor is possible criterion"

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 20, 2011, 11:32:01 pm
do you want a letter? or the synonym? Another possible synonym?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 21, 2011, 10:37:28 am
Y-R-----K

For "...doctor is possible criterion"


You can get that just from the slightly unusual letter combo and the definition (criterion). In this situation I'd normally ask my wife for help as she's just got a faster computer between the ears. (I mainly do crosswords in bed. That's probably enough personal disclosure.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on March 21, 2011, 08:00:25 pm
Got it - think I was having a bit of a moment, had gone down the unusual combination of letters route but couldn't think of anything that fitted!

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 24, 2011, 07:32:14 am
I'm back in sunny Sheffield if anyone needs a clue .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 24, 2011, 10:41:03 am
please.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 24, 2011, 01:27:49 pm
I'm back in sunny Sheffield if anyone needs a clue .......

Is it an anagram of ideal shot??
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 24, 2011, 01:35:54 pm
...or one of with craft? shot or craft are the only possible indicators I can see in there.
an ideal shot could be a hit?
craft could be vessel?
but I'm pretty sure the answer isn't shelviest...
shame bullseye is only 8
come on gc, we clearly haven't the foggiest!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 24, 2011, 01:48:37 pm
I wanted it to be bullshit at one stage (bullshite?) but I'm not certain shit is a synonym for craft (that was a crafty thing to do...), though it's conceivable you could spread it 'on course'. None  of the horseracing/golf venues I can think of fit. Yep I'm clutching at straws but give me another fortnight or so and I'll get it.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 24, 2011, 04:19:16 pm
Seeing as I know the answer…

(http://albertmucunguzi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/albert-einstein.jpg)

(http://primetime.unrealitytv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jonathan-ross.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 24, 2011, 04:48:12 pm
blimey, that was a very excellent clue  :clap2:  unlike this which is getting in quick:

Apache, albatross and green onions were helpful (11)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 24, 2011, 04:53:16 pm
?
with craft on course = albatross how?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 24, 2011, 04:58:54 pm
In golf an albatross is another term for 'hole in one', and I vaguely recall it's also some sort of US navy boat.  But I put this together backwards from the pics. That's the sort of clue I like.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 24, 2011, 05:07:34 pm
thanks - I got the pics, and worked back to the golf shot, but didn't know the boat
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 24, 2011, 06:37:12 pm
You've solved it  , nice one ...... Sorry I didn't get back to anyone today , but after a being in a shed in Gaydon for the past few days I dragged my sorry ass out to Apparent North .....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 24, 2011, 07:05:45 pm
?
with craft on course = albatross how?

Except "Geniustwat" isn't a word.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 24, 2011, 08:09:23 pm


Apache, albatross and green onions were helpful (11)

(I'm hoping you miscounted johnx2) 
Instrumental phrase not even close  to a film ( 1 , 6 , 3 , 3 ) ( And ARFK , I know it's not as good as your fiendishly cunning clue for the same thing )   
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 24, 2011, 10:10:54 pm
(I'm hoping you miscounted johnx2) 

 :guilty:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on March 25, 2011, 02:39:07 pm
In golf an albatross is another term for 'hole in one', and I vaguely recall it's also some sort of US navy boat.  But I put this together backwards from the pics. That's the sort of clue I like.

Albatross - two under par - not that I'd know, right,,,  :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 25, 2011, 03:27:21 pm
In golf an albatross is another term for 'hole in one', and I vaguely recall it's also some sort of US navy boat.  But I put this together backwards from the pics. That's the sort of clue I like.

Albatross - two under par - not that I'd know, right,,,  :whistle:

I'm not a golfist myself , but an eagle is two under par  :geek:

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 26, 2011, 08:23:18 am
Any clues required , or is it too easy for anyone to be interested in it ?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 26, 2011, 08:36:18 am
Ooh, hadn't seen we had a new clue, give me a bit to work on it...

?
with craft on course = albatross how?
Except "Geniustwat" isn't a word.
I don't understand this - is it a dig at me?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 26, 2011, 11:27:49 am
A bridge too far? (7)

Hope this is valid, was too tempting.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 26, 2011, 01:36:05 pm
Ooh, hadn't seen we had a new clue, give me a bit to work on it...

?
with craft on course = albatross how?
Except "Geniustwat" isn't a word.
I don't understand this - is it a dig at me?


a reply to your post saying "I worked it out from the pictures"
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 26, 2011, 03:09:13 pm
Aha. Maybe you should've quoted the post you were replying to, hmmm?

 :-*
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 26, 2011, 04:06:37 pm
Aha. Maybe you should've quoted the post you were replying to, hmmm?

 :-*

(http://allecoallende.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/doh_homer_simpson-1084.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 27, 2011, 10:50:59 am
A bridge too far? (7)

Hope this is valid, was too tempting.

Ok, how about:

Use a ghostly six lane highway bridge too far to a mysterious coast? (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 28, 2011, 07:38:26 pm
A bridge too far? (7)

Hope this is valid, was too tempting.

Ok, how about:

Use a ghostly six lane highway bridge too far to a mysterious coast? (7)


This one's got me scratching my head .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 28, 2011, 09:41:04 pm
yeah, I fear my second clue was harder than the initial one. Apologies.

abridge too far to coast unknown? (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 29, 2011, 09:09:07 pm
Abridge. Too far - how would hornets solve it? [7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 29, 2011, 11:01:13 pm
I guess the answer is 'shorten', but I'm buggered if I can explain all parts of all your clues!

Shorten model on edge. 4
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 29, 2011, 11:39:26 pm
Left marsh plant in County Antrim? [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on March 30, 2011, 12:20:52 pm
Reportedly not port, rush to record rate. (5,5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 30, 2011, 01:55:30 pm
I guess the answer is 'shorten', but I'm buggered if I can explain all parts of all your clues!

Shorten model on edge. 4

"Abridge" = shorten
"Hornets" = anagram of shorten, indicated by "solve"
"coast" = shore
"mysterious" and "unknown" = x = ten
an answer to "too far?" is to shorten
the  first  bit of the second clue is very tenuous - apologies:
Ghostly = semi solid
six lane, in the context of highway = wide = fat
Use semi solid fat = shorten
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 01, 2011, 09:46:58 am
Reportedly not port, rush to record rate. (5,5)

Okay this seems to be moving very slowly. It's Friday, I'm in my smart jeans and a casual shirt, and I'm looking for some cryptic action.

Reportedly = sounds like; not port = right as opposed to left, so reportedly not port = write

'record rate' or 'rate' = definition

Nope, can't think of anything. Any chance of a clue
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on April 01, 2011, 09:54:15 am
I don't think that you need a clue - all your thinking is correct so far.

Only one word that you haven't dealt with, so sort that out and you'll be done.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on April 01, 2011, 10:04:25 am
Adjust write speed, remove tripe for garden menace (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 01, 2011, 10:20:20 am
bollocks, I was going "write speed, write speed? Nah." Presumably something mildly techie? 


Magicseaweed’s eastcoast prognosis: regularly felt act, even (4)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on April 01, 2011, 10:30:18 am
Great clue.

Flatten and extract ore. (4,3)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on April 01, 2011, 02:24:48 pm
Catcher will iron out the crease? (6-6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on April 01, 2011, 02:31:07 pm
Wicket keeper. (10)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on April 01, 2011, 02:36:13 pm
Groundsman or solicitor is heard? (8)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on April 01, 2011, 02:52:58 pm
Groundsman or solicitor is heard? (8)

Not 8) - 8!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on April 01, 2011, 03:06:05 pm
Are you sure it isn't 7.....?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on April 01, 2011, 03:11:51 pm
 :oops:

7 it is.  My clues are too easy so I need all the help I can get to throw you off the scent!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on April 01, 2011, 03:36:35 pm
Sandwich served in 'Bar Istanbul' maybe.  (5,5)

Sorry, not a great clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 04, 2011, 07:50:47 pm
Do we get a clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on April 04, 2011, 09:07:12 pm
Sorry, vague clue really. And I was trying to avoid anagrams. Hope this is easier.

After bar is taken? Boned baker makes a snack. 5,5
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on April 04, 2011, 10:53:22 pm
Apologies, have had this for a while, will attempt to get something out tonight.

Oh and I do like how you got the previous answer into that clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on April 05, 2011, 01:41:36 am
Footballers drool using oven for doner kebab. [4,5]


 :tumble:

- Sorry, I'm halfway  through my first of a set of night shifts.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on April 05, 2011, 02:31:00 am
bollocks! obviously I meant:

Footballers dribble using oven for doner kebab [4,5]

rubbish enough clue without messing it up!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 05, 2011, 11:10:39 am
Spit roast actor Pete after former girlfriend. (11)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on April 05, 2011, 02:31:51 pm
Like expectorated matter for flatlander (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on April 06, 2011, 01:05:01 pm
 :tumble:

Anyone playing still?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on April 06, 2011, 01:54:20 pm
Stateless souffle mishmash for embryos in Paris. (5).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 06, 2011, 02:42:03 pm
Stateless souffle mishmash for embryos in Paris. (5).

ignore post.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 08, 2011, 01:54:33 pm
Stateless souffle mishmash for embryos in Paris. (5).

Surely the disciplinary committee should rule on this one?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on April 08, 2011, 01:57:37 pm
Stateless souffle mishmash for embryos in Paris. (5).

Surely the disciplinary committee should rule on this one?

Rule what ARFK? 
But I do need a clue as I don't have one.  Been well over 24hrs...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on April 08, 2011, 03:19:57 pm
Eh? is there a problem my good man?

Have I got the answer wrong or the clue wrong in some way?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 08, 2011, 03:33:48 pm
Eh? is there a problem my good man?

Have I got the answer wrong or the clue wrong in some way?


They tend to be hard enough without having to write them in French…
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on April 08, 2011, 03:53:22 pm
I thought common French words were allowed usually?

Anyway:

Making waffle mishmash without an iron is a mistake. (4).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 11, 2011, 10:58:34 am
A request by flawless singer Panayiotou and President Reg to be spared oral relief from Mohan’s organ (4, 3, 3, 3, 2, 4, 2, 2)




(ETA yes common French words are fine, but i couldn't see how the earlier clue worked.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on April 11, 2011, 11:14:05 am
A request by flawless singer Panayiotou and President Reg to be spared oral relief from Mohan’s organ (4, 3, 3, 3, 2, 4, 2, 2)




(ETA yes common French words are fine, but i couldn't see how the earlier clue worked.)

...christ, no marks for brevity!!  Damn, I always get confused by long clues......   :???:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 11, 2011, 11:35:21 am
Setting's the fun bit init?  Anyway that answer's not so hard to work up into something. (You could simpy use it to refer to an individual, or some element of that individual's oeuvre. I don't mean one of those obliquely referred to in the clue. Then again perhaps not everyone's as encumbered with early 80s pop trivia as I find myself to be.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 11, 2011, 01:37:09 pm
Setting's the fun bit init?  Anyway that answer's not so hard to work up into something. (You could simpy use it to refer to an individual, or some element of that individual's oeuvre. I don't mean one of those obliquely referred to in the clue. Then again perhaps not everyone's as encumbered with early 80s pop trivia as I find myself to be.)

Except

Quote
“Stateless souffle mishmash for embryos in Paris. (5).”

is souf[-FL]e = oeufs. And although a common and well-known French word isn't commonly used in English. So is Verboten
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 11, 2011, 01:42:17 pm
@ARFC - I agree with that ruling and thanks for the explaination. My comment was on JH's comment on my clue, which has a long (but I thought obvious) answer:


A request by flawless singer Panayiotou and President Reg to be spared oral relief from Mohan’s organ (4, 3, 3, 3, 2, 4, 2, 2)




(ETA yes common French words are fine, but i couldn't see how the earlier clue worked.)

...christ, no marks for brevity!!  Damn, I always get confused by long clues......   :???:



... actually would you say "oral relief from" or "oral relief by"? Can't tell now I'm thinking about it.  I'll stop thinking about it.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 12, 2011, 08:38:51 am
Is the issue here lack of knowledge of pop cheese? Or original names? Or fleet st editors? Footy club life presidents? Apathy? Or some combination of the above?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on April 12, 2011, 09:01:49 am
Is the issue here lack of knowledge of pop cheese? Or original names? Or fleet st editors? Footy club life presidents? Apathy? Or some combination of the above?

Pop cheese?   :-\  Original names?   :shrug:  Fleet street editors?   :shit:  Footy club presidents?   :wall:  Apathy?   :no:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on April 12, 2011, 09:13:08 am
Phew!

Don't let the sun go down on me?  No point!  I'd mess up hun sting!  (8,3)

I had to cheat to get it though....  :guilty:

My clue's going to get a kicking from the disciplinary committee though....   :chair:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on April 14, 2011, 10:02:27 am
Phew!

Don't let the sun go down on me?  No point!  I'd mess up hun sting!  (8,3)

I had to cheat to get it though....  :guilty:

My clue's going to get a kicking from the disciplinary committee though....   :chair:

Move along, move along, nothing to see here................   :tumble:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on April 14, 2011, 12:07:51 pm
Unrelated to cryptics, but last Saturday's Quick in the Guardian had a clue where the answer was "Subfusc"...in a quick!

Am I alone in thinking that's a pretty tricky one??
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on April 14, 2011, 12:54:51 pm
Unrelated to cryptics, but last Saturday's Quick in the Guardian had a clue where the answer was "Subfusc"...in a quick!

Am I alone in thinking that's a pretty tricky one??

My missus is the Guardian quick devotee, but she often goes, "You what!?" at some of the clues!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 14, 2011, 01:38:12 pm
...and sometimes the Rufus on Monday is barely cryptic at all (meaning I have a chance of finishing), unlike the current one. Where's the definition?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on April 14, 2011, 05:23:26 pm
...and sometimes the Rufus on Monday is barely cryptic at all (meaning I have a chance of finishing), unlike the current one. Where's the definition?

.....ahhhhhh, thought this was going to land me in trouble.  The definition is the first part and the answer could conceivably have 'land of the' in front of it......

Now I KNOW I've said too much.....   :slap:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 14, 2011, 09:09:12 pm
...and sometimes the Rufus on Monday is barely cryptic at all (meaning I have a chance of finishing), unlike the current one. Where's the definition?

.....ahhhhhh, thought this was going to land me in trouble.  The definition is the first part and the answer could conceivably have 'land of the' in front of it......

Now I KNOW I've said too much.....   :slap:


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Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on April 15, 2011, 09:30:53 am

Now I KNOW I've said too much.....   :slap:


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Come on the ARFK, put me, and the rest of them, out of our misery..........  :bounce:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 15, 2011, 12:43:59 pm
a bit of the answer in the clue...?  :o  I know, everyone's a bleedin' critic. ARFC you have until 13:10 before the world feels the might of my next shit short one...

EtA  all suits and meetings today so I can wait no longer. This should be a quick one. I just can't seem to lose the smut:


Land of the midnight sun’s arousal by land of the setting sun’s long distance writer (9, 4).


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 15, 2011, 01:15:37 pm
ah shit, rising! I meant rising :oops:...

Land of the midnight sun’s arousal by land of the rising sun’s long distance writer (9, 4).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on April 15, 2011, 03:27:58 pm
a bit of the answer in the clue...?  :o  I know, everyone's a bleedin' critic.

Damn, I knew I was going to get it in the neck for that.....   :spank:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 18, 2011, 01:00:39 pm
Land of the midnight sun’s arousal by land of the rising sun’s long distance writer (9, 4).


The words 'long distance' are superfluous, I thought they might help only because they're what I first thought of when I thought about the author of the work in question... 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on April 20, 2011, 02:22:10 pm
Land of the midnight sun’s arousal by land of the rising sun’s long distance writer (9, 4).


The words 'long distance' are superfluous, I thought they might help only because they're what I first thought of when I thought about the author of the work in question...

John, I'm afraid it's still a big fat  :-\  :shrug:  :wall: so, clue me baby........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 20, 2011, 03:39:46 pm
okay, I could have clued this as a song but instead went with a recently filmed bestselling 'cult' novel...



more?

the land of the midnight sun is in which country? One of the best known authors from the rising sun place, besides the novel in question wrote "what I think about when I think about running."

These clues don;t really work if, having got them, you don't think "aha that's obvious."

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on April 20, 2011, 04:01:50 pm
Norwegian Wood?

Actually scatch that Norway isn't the land of the midnight sun is it, was just misled by the arousal / wood bit.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 20, 2011, 04:22:45 pm
no, sorry Chris that's the right answer. And now you must set one.



Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on April 20, 2011, 04:26:55 pm
OK, I though Iceland was the land of the midnight sun, will go scratch head and have to come up with something easy. Sorry forgot I had to make up next clue

(btw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_the_Midnight_Sun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_the_Midnight_Sun) - i only googled after honest).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 20, 2011, 04:31:19 pm
I'd always thought it was Lapland, where the dancers come from,m Wikkipedia says it's loads of places, including Norway. 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: slackline on April 20, 2011, 04:33:57 pm
Here.... (http://tinyurl.com/3jz836p) (currently > 66° 33′ 44″ lattitude)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on April 20, 2011, 04:40:22 pm
A Norwegian would would be irked by the start of famous comedy Greek (9).

(sorry that's pretty pants - I'm better at solving them than setting them).   
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 20, 2011, 10:06:33 pm
Is "would would" deliberate?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on April 20, 2011, 10:21:19 pm
Sorry no, only supposed to be one.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 20, 2011, 10:56:04 pm
Ah. Of course then!

[He lied]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on April 22, 2011, 02:25:55 pm
Clue needed? I am away next week, so don't want to leave it hanging.

famous comedy greek - is popular 90s comedy, not classic.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 26, 2011, 06:40:27 pm
Has anyone got any ideas for a new clue here yet?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 27, 2011, 01:09:08 pm
A Norwegian would would be irked by the start of famous comedy Greek (9).

(sorry that's pretty pants - I'm better at solving them than setting them).

This does not look classically Ximinean. Comedy Greek? Of course Aristophenes' plays are probably best known, but that's too obvious init. Phalia was the comedic muse of course, but I can't see how that's in there. Which leaves us with Stavros, but he was 80s... This was intended to be funny. Clue please...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 27, 2011, 03:11:50 pm
Oh. I know the answer.

It's coming up with a clue that's the problem.

The answer is here! (http://tinyurl.com/5fpozn)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on April 27, 2011, 03:23:41 pm
Oh. I know the answer.

It's coming up with a clue that's the problem.

The answer is here! (http://tinyurl.com/5fpozn)

I'm looking forward to what you come up with  aLICE ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on April 27, 2011, 03:36:34 pm
I have a clue that might get us back on track again, but it's Alice's turn really.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 27, 2011, 04:03:19 pm
I have a clue that might get us back on track again, but it's Alice's turn really.

No. Please take over. Let's get it moving again.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on April 27, 2011, 04:10:46 pm
Gustav angered a nice ram from northern Europe. 8
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 03, 2011, 09:49:46 pm
<bump>  :jab: etc.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on May 03, 2011, 11:00:46 pm
Well, I've got no further than the obvious anagram of 'a nice ram', but that clearly isn't from northern europe.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on May 04, 2011, 04:02:12 am
Sorry, poorly written clue done in a hurry on a phone and only just checked back in as I'm away at the moment.

A better version of the clue would be:

Firstly Gustav angered nice ram from northern Europe. 8

Many apologies for the extra 'a' in the first clue; not sure how that got in there.



Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on May 04, 2011, 09:04:05 am
Which leaves us with Stavros, but he was 80s...

Sorry, misleading clue there, things happened a bit more slowly in SA.

I'll go away now.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 04, 2011, 06:21:07 pm
@ Chris - It was a fair clue I was unable to get. I was trying to be funny. Don't go away.

Anyway, how about:

From Danger Man? Iconic sixties captive lives in Camden Town selling revolution. (3,8 )

 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 04, 2011, 06:54:18 pm

Will illegal sumo Chris lose right before designing the location for The Prisoner? [6, 8-5]

(Ridiculously easy)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 05, 2011, 11:25:41 am
(Ridiculously easy)

Given it was up for all of 20 minutes I take it you mean my clue, not yours. Easy for a certain demographic... Anyway I was trying to keep things moving. On which note the anag's clear enough but for defn I can't see past Portmerrion. Unless it's a reference to Proust. Or Herbie Hancock. Or Howard Jones. As I'm unable to throw off my mental chains please throw me a line... :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on May 05, 2011, 02:39:45 pm
Once you've got portmerrion it's much easier than that john, though how one is meant to get it into a clue anyones guess...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 05, 2011, 04:21:47 pm
Nope. "Will", "will illegal" or "will illegal sumo" all seem unlikely to provide a definition. So presumaby I need to think more laterally about "prisoner"? None the bleedin' wiser.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on May 05, 2011, 04:32:44 pm
Nope. "Will", "will illegal" or "will illegal sumo" all seem unlikely to provide a definition. So presumaby I need to think more laterally about "prisoner"? None the bleedin' wiser.

No lateral thinking required. Anag is at the beginning (obviously sans a letter). If not, a bit of wiki'ing will see you right. (Yes, I'm being lame and not even attempted to write a clue with this one)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 05, 2011, 05:07:42 pm
...I was reduced to begging/cheating for that? Strikes me as a step beyond the average pub quiz, but waddoo I know? Right then:

Testicular asymetry? Clough, williams, ellis; brian, JPR, and william webb respectively played with these. (9,6,5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on May 05, 2011, 05:16:57 pm
Johnny Dawes theory of the leftward drop of strangely shaped balls should one lose an electron (13)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 05, 2011, 05:24:00 pm
asymetry = different as opposed to strangely shaped but I think the committee'll nod that one through.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on May 05, 2011, 05:38:05 pm
My clue could be rewritten with different instead of strangely and it would still work, but if the committee wants to throw it back out to the floor that's OK.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 05, 2011, 05:44:17 pm
The clue's great. Though the only answer I can see so far is 15 letters long, albeit I can't source the first part of the word so it must be wrong I guess...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on May 05, 2011, 05:55:47 pm
Definitely 13.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on May 05, 2011, 11:14:51 pm
Johnny Dawes theory of the leftward drop of strangely shaped balls should one lose an electron (13)
Perhaps better written as:
Johnny Dawes theory of how strangely shaped balls drop left should one lose an electron (13)

or indeed:
Johnny Dawes theory of how different shaped balls drop left should one lose an electron (13)

Sorry for tweaking.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on May 08, 2011, 10:09:59 pm
OK so I seem to have killed the thread. Clue time.
The word is a "Johnny Dawes theory", it may not technically be an actual word in the dictionary type word but it is certainly a word I've heard several times. That may break the rules of crypticosity but the rest of the clue gives you the word pretty much letter by letter.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 09, 2011, 10:44:56 am
Okay this is how I tried and failed to find a solution...

Different shaped balls drop left = anag of bal; (anag of ballsdropleft seems unlikely)

Lose an electron = cation (taking an ‘e’ out of ballsdropleft seems unlikely)

Johnny Dawes theory = was always clearly the deffn.

(The lack of an apostrophe implies it’s a theory about Johnny Dawes rather than a theory he propounds. But I’d assumed this was just an error - ooooh! Handbag smiley.)

 Which made me think of panthers, senna, declumsification and mad shit. But the ‘bal’ makes me think of balance, or baloney. Non the bleedin’ wiser.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on May 09, 2011, 10:54:18 am
You're getting there, balls drop left leaves bals not bal to be anagramised

cation is spot on

"should one" gives the missing three letters.

so you have:

anag of bals + "should one" three letters + cation

(sorry about the missing apostrophe)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on May 09, 2011, 10:59:19 am
In spite of the

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-4snfsvWSSA/SZwfY6f7UfI/AAAAAAAAAj8/h8P4I6LSbQg/s320/91174851.jpg)

I still can't get it.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on May 09, 2011, 11:04:49 am
I'll come back with more this afternoon if it's still unsolved.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 09, 2011, 11:11:03 am
what does it rhyme with?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: GCW on May 09, 2011, 11:11:40 am
-ation, one would expect.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on May 09, 2011, 11:47:30 am
I'm guessing it's the should one bit that is causing the trouble as I can't imagine if you had that you'd struggle to at least make a reasonable stab at the answer.

"Should one" could be rewritten as another two word phrase using three letters

"Should x=y, then..." could be written as "???? x=y, then..."
"One likes chips" could be written as "???? like chips"

Johnny Dawes has a theory where you use your momentum to make steep ground feel less steep thus improving poor holds.

An anagram of bals + two-words-three-letters that can have the same meaning as "should one" + cation

Would rhyme with "All in one nation".

If nobody can get this now then either you're all a bit rubbish or I'm shit (it's probably me that's shit isn't it?).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: GCW on May 09, 2011, 11:50:44 am
But surely everyone likes chips?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on May 09, 2011, 11:52:32 am
I've got it, but fooked if I can think of a clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 09, 2011, 12:00:09 pm
I'm still stuck on what you might call the JD theory of how sitting in front of the telly eating lots of chips, drinking beer and smoking fags helps you put on a couple of stone ala wayne and waynetta...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: dakdak on May 09, 2011, 12:03:45 pm
You're getting there, balls drop left leaves bals not bal to be anagramised

cation is spot on

"should one" gives the missing three letters.

so you have:

anag of bals + "should one" three letters + cation

(sorry about the missing apostrophe)

YES! First time I've ever solved a cryptic crossword clue.
Also first time I've written one, sorry if it's shit:

Slabification avoids lady of the night to end detection (10)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on May 09, 2011, 01:30:59 pm
No offence, but I'm not sure it counted as cryptic by that stage of spoonfeeding. Effort coming up with a clue using it though.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 09, 2011, 02:26:46 pm
...there's loads of ways you could clue it. Top of the head you could do: slabification’s one, a term for the messy consequences of the Matrix’s protagonist’s love of a tree trunk would be another. (9) (neologism, ha ha :()

I can't see how the current clue works but then as demonstrated above, I'm slo.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: dakdak on May 10, 2011, 11:28:00 pm
Is it clue time?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 12, 2011, 09:27:49 am
Yes please
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: dakdak on May 12, 2011, 01:00:00 pm
Slabification avoids lady of the night to end detection (10)

"Slabification avoids" is the definition
"lady of the night" and "to end detection" make up the other bit that gives you the word...

The definition's not very good really but hopefully the other bits give the word without tooo much trouble
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on May 12, 2011, 01:24:30 pm
Not sure if this is right "Protection"?

Protection you might find in your crack? 5,5
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 12, 2011, 06:20:48 pm
Dunno if this is right. Dunno if this clue could be any easier...


Miller and Kane’s quick draw standoff? Lunchtime spliff over Otley. (5,5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 13, 2011, 03:49:20 pm
@dakdak - good and fair clue btw

...anyone still reading this thread and want a clue? 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on May 13, 2011, 05:53:10 pm
Is quick draw the answer to my clue? Because if it is it aint right!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on May 13, 2011, 06:15:00 pm
I was assuming it was quick draw s?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 13, 2011, 07:00:00 pm
Is quick draw the answer to my clue? Because if it is it aint right!

erm, quick draws was meant to be an answer. ah well, back to your clue (on which I'm stumped).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: superfurrymonkey on May 13, 2011, 07:11:00 pm
I should come clean and say the answer to my clue does not really exist. The words though are real and I'm sure I've had clues of that nature, well almost sure.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on May 15, 2011, 08:36:51 am
I should come clean and say the answer to my clue does not really exist. The words though are real and I'm sure I've had clues of that nature, well almost sure.  :shrug:

Eh ? ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 18, 2011, 12:16:25 pm
I should come clean and say the answer to my clue does not really exist. The words though are real and I'm sure I've had clues of that nature, well almost sure.  :shrug:

Eh ? ........


Protection you might find in your crack? 5,5

Deconstruction time…

Okay so I think this clue’s a pun: the answer will mean both “protection”, and also something “you might find in your crack”. Both have many synonyms and could relate to codes/hacking/climbing/contraception/whatever. Hence my first wrong answer of “Quick draws” (not really protection, not really two five-letter words, and only ‘draws’ might you find in your crack. But still I thought worth a try. Hey ho.)

So what if it’s not a pun? The definition has to be either “protection”, or “protection you might find”; or “crack”, or “find in your crack”.

What else is there to work with? Well “crack” could be an anagram signifier but where do we get ten workable letters?

Nope, nothing happening.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 18, 2011, 06:30:35 pm
I should come clean and say the answer to my clue does not really exist. The words though are real and I'm sure I've had clues of that nature, well almost sure.  :shrug:


So. Give us some of the letters in the answer.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on May 19, 2011, 01:03:29 am
I should come clean and say the answer to my clue does not really exist. The words though are real and I'm sure I've had clues of that nature, well almost sure.  :shrug:

What if the clue to the clue was a little cunning? - Green Alien? the piece of protection exists, but not the martian? not in a crack though - seems an unlikley solution.
Come on sfm, we need letters.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on May 19, 2011, 09:01:33 am
Small Alien?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 20, 2011, 09:57:09 am
Small Alien?

It's protection Jim... 

But don't see the crack connection...

Ah fuck it, I'm feelin' cryptic, put it in a clue!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 21, 2011, 07:46:08 pm
What we gonna do now?


Seriouisly, shall we let the first one along to suggest a clue with "Small Alien" and run with that?

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on May 21, 2011, 09:39:04 pm
I thought green alien was better. :sulk:





But yeah, we need to move on. Alternatively first person to do a new clue with "protection"?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on May 23, 2011, 10:47:43 am
I'm with Duma, so:

Green when oriental gnu mixes with Gore free alien  (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 23, 2011, 12:11:46 pm
No ingénue retreats when he can’t find this (3)


[Final edit. Highlights of previous versions include, on the basis you've got to have rules, that "green alien" shouldn't've been separated and that if not, and wrong answers are the way forward, then "Miller and Kane’s quick draw standoff? Lunchtime spliff over Otley. (5,5)" is still somewhere upthread  ;).]

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on May 23, 2011, 02:40:54 pm
Kinda thought it wouldn't take you long to knock that one off John  :-[ 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 23, 2011, 10:33:10 pm
erm, yeah thanks, I think. You can see there were 30 minutes between posting and last edit, 30 hard minutes of :shrug: :-\ :slap:. That's longer than I give the Guardian crossword on the train back to Ilkley. Not saying I finish it mind. (Got close today  as it goes, but that's Rufus.) 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on May 24, 2011, 12:50:45 pm
...yep, bit of a Rufus fan myself.  At least I've got more chance of finishing that than bleedin' Araucaria....  :wall:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 25, 2011, 09:51:43 am
No ingénue retreats when he can’t find this (3)

Ah come on, it's three letters long which means that no more than 19,136 guesses are required.

I  could have said "backs off" or even "climbs down" rather than retreats...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Falling Down on May 26, 2011, 11:13:37 am
I saw this one today and it made me laugh.

"Confused yarns about GI and Gee Gee reveal someone who knows how to score." (4-5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on May 26, 2011, 11:43:43 am
No ingénue retreats when he can’t find this (3)

Ah come on, it's three letters long which means that no more than 19,136 guesses are required.

I  could have said "backs off" or even "climbs down" rather than retreats...

Pro...?

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 26, 2011, 11:51:08 am
yep


It's a pun. No ingénue = definition, a 'pro' being the opposite of an 'ingénue', and I tend to retreat when I can't find it. Twice on Saturday as it goes :spank: I should stick to crosswords.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on May 26, 2011, 12:19:38 pm
Hmmm, solving clues is tricky, it would appear writing them's even harder!

Anyway:

Swimming pro takes a dip in French waterway and strangely ends up feeling worse for it! (7)

NB: I really hope this is OK - first one I've tried...feedback welcome.


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on May 26, 2011, 01:58:18 pm
I saw this one today and it made me laugh.

"Confused yarns about GI and Gee Gee reveal someone who knows how to score." (4-5)

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on May 26, 2011, 02:40:57 pm
I saw this one today and it made me laugh.

"Confused yarns about GI and Gee Gee reveal someone who knows how to score." (4-5)

 :lol: :lol:

Nice - just got that one myself!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on May 27, 2011, 06:58:46 pm
OK - cleaned it up a bit in the light of non-response.

Pro swimming in French river isn't feeling any better...au contraire! (7)



Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on June 01, 2011, 10:27:16 am
Right, so I'm assuming my clue writing isn't up to scratch!

I was aiming for...

Pro swimming (anagram of pro in) French river (Loire) = word meaning "isn't feeling any better" = Poorlier

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on June 01, 2011, 10:33:12 am
I assumed the obvious one and was hammeirng the Seine route, and coming up with nothing.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on June 02, 2011, 09:46:35 am
As a first clue that was a good effort. Sorry if that sounds a bit patronising ('patronising' means when you talk down to people.) Anyway...

"Swimming pro takes a dip in French waterway and strangely ends up feeling worse for it! (7)"

Swimming pro bit is fine, as is French waterway (river might have been fairer), unfortunately you has to mix up the letters to make a word,hence the second anag signifier 'strangely' (the 'and' is redundant). This is a step further than most setters would go, given there are a few possible french waterways. But it's the "for it" on the end that made it difficult for me. The definition must always be at the very start or end of the clue (or run right through it exceptionally) "worse for it" doesn't mean "poorlier". Leaving "for it" off makes for a more gettable clue.

Anyway, what happens now? Is this thread at the end of its natural life? In which case I shall return to outer darkness.   
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on June 02, 2011, 11:10:27 am
Aha - cheers for the feedback.

Am happy for someone else to pick up the baton with "Poorlier"...Mr x2?

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on June 03, 2011, 01:21:05 pm
er okay, missed this. How about:

I was known once in the car trade as a poor lier (6,4) 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on June 03, 2011, 04:24:34 pm
I may be miles off, but;

An honest john makes for an emotional sick, unhappy employee (8)


(apologies in advance if this clue is bollocks)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 03, 2011, 06:19:30 pm
letters?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on June 04, 2011, 12:44:30 am
Cock has it done that again meant to be an eight in brackets, not an emoticon.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 04, 2011, 09:21:21 am
Use square brackets.

And, as you don't also have to hold the "shift" key down - in the wise words of Homer - you double your efficiency!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on June 04, 2011, 10:18:09 am
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Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on June 10, 2011, 11:11:21 am
No takers? A clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on June 10, 2011, 02:13:18 pm
No takers? A clue?

okay let's have a go...

An honest john makes for an emotional sick, unhappy employee ( 8 )

If it's by the rules the answer has to be either 'an honest john', 'employee', 'unhappy employee', or 'sick, unhappy employee'.

I can't think of eight-letter one-word synonyms for anything other than 'employee' - domestic, operator, probably lots of '-er' words I can't think of right now.

Not many of the words give off crosswordy signals to me, but trying hard here...

honest john = a missile? (The MGR-1, google if you don't believe me)
john = punter? Mark? Rejected boyfriend? Toilet? (Oh it's a great name.)
emotional = possible anag signifier? Or to be synonymed?
sick = possible anag signifier? Or to be synonymed? If latter then to 'ill'?
unhappy = possible anag signifier? Or to be synonymed? If latter then to 'sad'?

...but evidently not hard enough. So yes, clue please.



 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on June 10, 2011, 02:26:57 pm
Umm, i may have broken the rules then.

How about an honest john makes a sick, complaining employee emotional?


John in this case being definition no 3.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=john (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=john)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on June 10, 2011, 03:22:57 pm
I was going to say 'hormone ' ( it's an old joke , but still ....... ) but then I remembered it's meant to be eight letters .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on June 10, 2011, 03:34:28 pm
you are very close. Haven't accounted for the "sick" bit.

And yes it's an old joke.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on June 10, 2011, 04:17:07 pm
Feel a bit like I'm stealing gc's slot here, but still:
Hormonal teenager becomes ancient rebel [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on June 14, 2011, 09:37:50 am
Hormonal ..... Doh ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on June 14, 2011, 04:48:36 pm
Forgot I'd posted this - thought it would be easy enough without a clue, but it's been a while...

synonym's at the end
ancient could be replaced with archaic
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 14, 2011, 08:28:45 pm
Forgot I'd posted this - thought it would be easy enough without a clue, but it's been a while...

synonym's at the end
ancient could be replaced with archaic

letters?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on June 14, 2011, 10:31:54 pm
_ e _ e _ _ _ e
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 14, 2011, 11:34:58 pm
So. Zonal realm produced "Renegade"? [7,5]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on June 15, 2011, 12:59:44 am
no.
but nearly.
it's an archaic form - the first half of the clue should get you there.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 15, 2011, 07:35:22 am
(http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx183/tawna6988/Decorated%20images/SmileyIdea.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 15, 2011, 05:21:09 pm
Not brilliant, but the best I can come up with.


Crossword setter "nobody expects" feared by heretikes? [7]


(The "nobody expects" is redundant in the clue, btw. It's just that I'm trying to push this along a bit.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on June 16, 2011, 11:24:36 am
okay then in a similar vein of speeding things up:


Poor Ximines has no fornication,  it’s small… (4)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 16, 2011, 11:47:33 am
Understanding bewildered chap in lament - unlike Idi Amin - is a genuine former King of Scotland* [sic] [7,8]


* The correct title is, of course, “King of Scots”
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on June 16, 2011, 02:22:08 pm
Chosen by a subject of Kenneth MacAlpin, one hears (6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on June 17, 2011, 01:18:30 am
The answer to mine was renegate (anagram (indicated by hormonal) of teenager, ancient/archaic word for rebel). I guess your answer was heretike ARFK, though how hormonal teenager got you there I don't know. I'm a bit sad this failed -  thought it was one of my less rubbish clues.



Anyway, it's a bit late now - carry on!


Edit: that Ximines clue was ace johnx2
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 17, 2011, 06:33:10 am
From your emphasis of "archaic", and "it fit into the gaps" I'd assumed better wordplay than mine on your behalf!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on June 17, 2011, 09:40:59 am
The answer to mine was renegate (anagram (indicated by hormonal) of teenager, ancient/archaic word for rebel).

bollocks wish I'd googled. I saw how the clue worked and thought 'renagade' but shite no 'd' in teenager.'Renegate' was a word I simply didn't know (quite a confession...) Anyway, the current one should be easy enough.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on June 20, 2011, 08:25:20 pm
Quote
“King of Scots”


Quote
Chosen by a subject of Kenneth MacAlpin, one hears (6)


Come on, come on - he was an ancient king of scotland, so what does that make his subjects.

(Sorry if this fiddly fecking phone post fails.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 21, 2011, 09:11:08 am
I've been away for the weekend - I've got it but am trying to concoct a clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 21, 2011, 01:06:43 pm
Variant Indians stood on top of precarious escarpment initially picked? [7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on June 21, 2011, 02:28:22 pm
Watsons type of isotope? (10)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on June 21, 2011, 02:43:05 pm
Men in charge of elementary school have no skin redness (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 23, 2011, 07:54:05 pm
Did anyone else know Viz have started doing cryptic crosswords?

(Set by "Anus")
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 25, 2011, 10:19:05 am
Did anyone else know Viz have started doing cryptic crosswords?

(Set by "Anus")

And my smuggage currently knows no bounds as I've completed the Eye crossword in less than two days!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: iain_cbr on June 25, 2011, 10:21:05 am
I have no idea what you're all on about and can't get my head around the clues. Bit annoying really cos I'd love to be able to!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on June 30, 2011, 03:28:25 pm
Is this thread dying a death?

Time for a clue or is it lifeless like Bob the buoy

(4, 2, 3, 5)

:)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on June 30, 2011, 10:05:18 pm
Synonym(ish) - Men In Charge
Anag of "Elementary school" once you have removed the letters of another word for "skin redness".

Alternative clue:

Army men in Lancashire town initially look serious (7)

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 01, 2011, 03:30:09 pm
thanks - needed all that. erythemal not being in my active vocabluary. Red faces all round. Ha ha, where's that smiley when you need it?  Anyway a quick one:


This colonel’s never going to make general now, a fag did say (7).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 01, 2011, 03:48:15 pm
Saucy character? A suspected killer just like Gaddafi! [7]

(Just for the sake of keeping it moving)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 04, 2011, 04:25:58 pm
Pottiest sex menace bizarrely cuts the mustard. (5, 12)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 04, 2011, 04:53:57 pm
Putsch actor organized meets expectations? [2,2,7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on July 05, 2011, 05:49:32 pm
Oddly, their fruit bullet isn't up to scratch (8 )
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 07, 2011, 10:06:48 am
Terrible clue sent! You can eat this...  ( 8 )
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on July 07, 2011, 10:36:44 am
Some esculent ice leaks from plant pore (8 )

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on July 07, 2011, 12:47:01 pm
not [7] ?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on July 07, 2011, 12:53:22 pm
I had an answer for [8], just can't get a decent clue together.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on July 07, 2011, 01:04:27 pm
Coming up with the clues is far harder than getting the answers. How about :-

I'll be removed from damaged lenticel and start deciding to be good [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on July 07, 2011, 01:53:09 pm
I may be off here but

The reformed church's holy foursome (3,5)

(suspect it's a bit easy)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on July 07, 2011, 03:07:11 pm
Sorry, just noticed my mistake. Should have been 6 letters. I'll try again.

I'll be removed from damaged lenticel and start deciding to be good [6]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on July 07, 2011, 03:26:27 pm
So reform would be wrong?

Pity I was quite pleased with my clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on July 07, 2011, 04:05:01 pm
Decent chap with a soft touch [9]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 14, 2011, 03:57:24 pm
Quote
Decent chap with a soft touch [9]



hmmm, could a word that means both "decent chap" and "soft touch"?
Could be a word that means "decent", which is an anagram "touch" combined with chap or a synonym of same. Or something.

Clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on July 14, 2011, 07:29:40 pm
Quote
Decent chap with a soft touch [9]



hmmm, could a word that means both "decent chap" and "soft touch"?
Could be a word that means "decent", which is an anagram "touch" combined with chap or a synonym of same. Or something.

Clue?


OK.  This may be better

Chap with a soft touch? [9]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on July 14, 2011, 08:11:30 pm
OK.  This may be better

Chap with a soft touch? [9]

Not allowed in the rules though...

Try this...

Mixed up men tangle with decent chap [9]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 15, 2011, 10:59:15 am
Fair real gentleman prefers matching curtains and pelmet?  (7,7) 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 18, 2011, 06:04:42 pm
OK. I've got the answer, anyone else any ideas for a clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 19, 2011, 02:59:12 pm
sorry I totally forgot about this. Must've done it by spinal reflex or multiple personality or summat.

Anyway waddya want? There's a million ways to clue it. How about...

Confused natural blond vomits a berliner to leave a healthier breakfast. (3-4)?

Or if you wanted to be mean, something like...

in constant contact with beloved’s gifts, in a manner supernatural, blondie sang (1, 2, 6, 7, 2, 4, 8, 4)

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on July 19, 2011, 03:05:26 pm
Blond - 7?

I guessed at natural redhead, but have stopped doing clues as mine are generally useless.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 19, 2011, 03:10:05 pm
ah balls.  :spank:  Sorry. I'm worse at counting that I am at bloody setting.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 19, 2011, 07:11:52 pm
I had "genuine blondes" [7,7]

Is the consensus that we going with you're  [sic] breakfast one then?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 20, 2011, 01:36:09 pm


I've fucked it really, haven't I? Sorry again. But yeah - lets do:

Confused natural blond vomits a berliner to leave a healthier breakfast. (3-4 - really)?


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 20, 2011, 02:06:33 pm
Male ikon in broadcast calling for ban on all branded goods? [5,5]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 20, 2011, 07:00:41 pm
<smug>

And I have just finished the Private Eye crossword

</smug>
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 20, 2011, 08:46:02 pm
You all* shouldn't need a clue, but if one is needed an I'm not back


http://bit.ly/nJf5MN (http://bit.ly/nJf5MN)


* Said in a Waylon Jennings / Dukes of Hazzard style.


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 25, 2011, 02:19:51 pm
<bump>

_ _ _ _ I / _ _ _ I _
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on July 26, 2011, 09:47:17 am
Not sure if this hangs together ......

Naomi Klein shot in dock , er one hundred times wrong ...... ( 5 , 8 ) ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on July 31, 2011, 09:39:42 am
Not sure if this hangs together ......

Naomi Klein shot in dock , er one hundred times wrong ...... ( 5 , 8 ) ......

Hmmmmmmm ......... Maybe it doesn't ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on August 01, 2011, 08:27:45 am
Right ......

Naomi Klein gets a belt ,  g.p. batting , ecstasy at the money markets exploits    ....... (5,8)




 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on August 01, 2011, 06:26:12 pm
One in shock doctrine gives instruction [9]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 02, 2011, 03:41:49 pm
     Miss direction? Smart! Other direction. (6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 03, 2011, 07:12:06 pm
Guardian cryptic crossword, yesterday. (25930)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crosswords/cryptic/25390 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/crosswords/cryptic/25390)

7d. Mucus is brought up in large quantities (4)  :2thumbsup:

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 03, 2011, 08:56:44 pm
.....yeah, I liked that one.  It was, however, probably the only one I got....

Now, ahem, to more serious matters.......  :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 04, 2011, 12:36:16 pm
 :tumble:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on August 04, 2011, 12:54:42 pm
:tumble:

Clue time?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 04, 2011, 01:15:18 pm
:tumble:

Clue time?

....okey dokey.   The literal part of the clue is Miss.  The fact that it's capitalised is remarkably fortuitous.... :smart:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 05, 2011, 12:40:12 pm
Sorry chaps.  Mine are usually too easy.

So, how about -

Miss Harlech endlessly suffers misdirection (6)

 :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on August 05, 2011, 08:09:24 pm
     Miss direction? Smart! Other direction. (6)

Still don't follow the original clue, even now I think I've got the answer! Explanation?

Rachel’s one that’s confused without any comfort initially, leaving her in a pickle (6).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 05, 2011, 08:28:08 pm
     Miss direction? Smart! Other direction. (6)

Still don't follow the original clue, even now I think I've got the answer! Explanation?

Rachel’s one that’s confused without any comfort initially, leaving her in a pickle (6).

Bugger!  Thought that one was OK!  Miss (a person of the female persuasion) Direction (Right, as in R) smart (Ache, pain, discomfort etc), other direction - Left.....L =Rachel.    :tease:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on August 05, 2011, 09:40:25 pm
No, good clue, just me being thick.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on August 12, 2011, 02:46:07 pm
Rachel’s one that’s confused without any comfort initially, leaving her in a pickle (6).

I want this to be 'friend' but can't make it fit. Any chance of a clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on August 15, 2011, 08:52:06 am
There's an anagram in there somewhere. Can't think of any other clues without giving too much away.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 15, 2011, 11:11:29 am
There's an anagram in there somewhere. Can't think of any other clues without giving too much away.

Rachel's without the c?  :-\  :fishing:  :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on August 15, 2011, 12:31:03 pm
I knew that... (Just a bit too much going on for me - 'leaving her' redundant, but a fair clue.) Anyway:

New Directions Sylvester attacks with relish (4)





Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 16, 2011, 02:19:47 pm
Right idea, wrong bleedin' letters.  Rats.  :slap:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on August 19, 2011, 09:46:50 am
Oh dear. After 26 pages has my poor clue (or a US highschool current TV comedy/drama shaped hole in solvers' general knowledge), finally brought down this fine thread?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 19, 2011, 11:42:28 am
Oh dear. After 26 pages has my poor clue (or a US highschool current TV comedy/drama shaped hole in solvers' general knowledge), finally brought down this fine thread?

If I say, "You what?" to the parenthesised bit of your post, does that answer your question?  :shrug:  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on August 19, 2011, 12:45:40 pm
I actually watched Li Lo's perihelion 'Mean Girls' last night so I can't claim complete  ignorance of the genre, however I did google to put the clue together. First three words would do it.

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 19, 2011, 01:16:03 pm
Sorry John, I'm being exceedingly dim today.....  :-[
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on August 19, 2011, 01:24:30 pm
Oh dear. After 26 pages has my poor clue (or a US highschool current TV comedy/drama shaped hole in solvers' general knowledge), finally brought down this fine thread?

I'd twigged after this clue, but you'd never find such references in The Times! This is probably too easy, but it's Friday :-

Endless glee with morning sparkle (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 22, 2011, 09:13:45 am
First time sea food puts gleam in Dad's eye (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 23, 2011, 03:41:39 pm
Come on you lot  :whip: this one's easy even by my standards ....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 23, 2011, 04:44:46 pm
Come on you lot  :whip: this one's easy even by my standards ....

Sorry, old man, we just don't understand your banter. 


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 24, 2011, 10:32:11 am
Come on you lot  :whip: this one's easy even by my standards ....

Sorry, old man, we just don't understand your banter.

Good god man, it's not like there's cabbage crates coming over the briny!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on August 25, 2011, 08:58:23 am
I think I might need a clue if I'm going to deliver the bacon with this one .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 25, 2011, 09:32:44 am
First time sea food puts gleam in Dad's eye (7)

...damned if I can think of a clue for the clue - shall I just spill the beans  :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on August 25, 2011, 09:54:51 am
Sin till action makes it twinkle [13]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 25, 2011, 01:37:44 pm
Sin till action makes it twinkle [13]

Good effort that man!  :clap2:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 25, 2011, 03:02:59 pm
Sin till action makes it twinkle [13]

....yeah, got that, but I don't want to be greedy....  :smart:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: rehab21 on August 25, 2011, 03:13:15 pm
Needs: a mess around french fatty. Subject to scintillation (9)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on August 25, 2011, 03:52:15 pm

....yeah, got that, but I don't want to be greedy....  :smart:

Yeah, well, I got yours ages ago but couldn't make a good clue...    :tease:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 25, 2011, 04:36:01 pm

....yeah, got that, but I don't want to be greedy....  :smart:

Yeah, well, I got yours ages ago but couldn't make a good clue...    :tease:

...the hardest part I think!   :wall:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on August 30, 2011, 12:43:11 pm
Needs: a mess around french fatty. Subject to scintillation (9)

...come on chaps, this one's doing my head in....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on August 30, 2011, 01:33:15 pm
hard men grossed out by cattle owner (6)

(engrossed is the previous answer)

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 02, 2011, 11:05:04 am
nope. Can't do it. Any chance of a clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on September 02, 2011, 12:31:51 pm
Could be rewritten as:
Hard men confused by cattle owner (6)

Or:

Hard men disturbed a cattle owner (6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 02, 2011, 12:46:17 pm
 :2thumbsup: however :chair: also: (6)!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 02, 2011, 01:20:18 pm
shepherds managed mini disaster without yours truly (11)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 02, 2011, 01:29:52 pm
shepherds managed mini disaster without yours truly (11)

Which word is the answer to Nik's clue  :-[ .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 02, 2011, 01:57:18 pm
balls, bollocks also. Shitter now but should go quick...

shepherd managed min’s disaster (11)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 03, 2011, 11:24:36 am
balls, bollocks also. Shitter now but should go quick...

shepherd managed min’s disaster (11)

Ah !! ...... Like the fule I am I was looking for a six letter word .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on September 03, 2011, 06:19:56 pm
Sorry, I shall be returning my GCSE Maths certificate to the appropriate authorities forthwith...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 04, 2011, 07:35:53 pm
balls, bollocks also. Shitter now but should go quick...

shepherd managed min’s disaster (11)

When joe  , with beard but definitely no Lady, had ministers by the short and curlies ....... (5, 4)

something not too taxing for sunday night /monday morning .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on September 05, 2011, 01:18:36 am
Sorry, I shall be returning my GCSE Maths certificate to the appropriate authorities forthwith...

Out of interest, would you have said [7], or [4,3]? Herdman is pretty obscure, and herd man is hardly a recognized phrase.

Actually surely the answer should have been herdsman - ie [8] and JX2 was right first time?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on September 05, 2011, 08:47:02 am
Am I getting pulled up for an unusual word from Mr Obscure Sea Shanty himself? ;D

I would say Herdman (7) rather than Herd Man (4,3), Herdsman is a more common term but doesn't work with the anagram.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on September 05, 2011, 04:15:34 pm
That was johnx2! wasn't it?

Anyway if you could count I wouldn't have mentioned it... :P

re the missing s - I shall shut up now as my lack of skills are being exposed.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on September 06, 2011, 01:15:41 pm
Apologies to thread hijack but I think I'm on the brink of completing only my second ever Guardian cryptic (and it's Sat's prize one as well!) but I'm a bit scuppered on the last couple...anyone fancy helping a playa out?

I've got 21 Across left:

One passing on information concerned with French leader —  sinner, might you say? (8)

For letters, I've got  - E - E - - - R

Now I reckon it's probably "Redeemer", but can't really work it back through the clue?

And then that leaves me 20 Down:

Fish starts to weaken, riding on the high seas (6)

I've got - - - S - E, with the third letter an R if "Redeemer" is right.

Reckon there's an anagram in there (high seas?), but can't think of a fish whose name ends SAE or SSE etc...

Thanks in advance for any help, if I win you're more than welcome to have a look at the Style Guide, which I think is the prize!



Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on September 06, 2011, 01:53:35 pm
Resender?

Ties in with passing on information, but not sure about the rest?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 06, 2011, 01:54:22 pm
The fish one might be wrasse ..... But that completely fucks up redeemer ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on September 06, 2011, 02:33:40 pm
The fish one might be wrasse ..... But that completely fucks up redeemer ......

Good arrows - can see how that one works as well!

So that leaves the first one as:

- E - E - R - R

EDIT - just got it - it's Referrer isn't it?

RE (About) F (French leader) ERRER (sinner)

Nice one!  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on September 06, 2011, 02:44:18 pm
Good arrows.

Now back to the main event......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 06, 2011, 02:47:16 pm
The fish one might be wrasse ..... But that completely fucks up redeemer ......

Good arrows - can see how that one works as well!

So that leaves the first one as:

- E - E - R - R

EDIT - just got it - it's Referrer isn't it?

RE (About) F (French leader) ERRER (sinner)

Nice one!  :2thumbsup:

Nice one youth .... Damned hard that Guardian crossword .....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 06, 2011, 02:58:27 pm
Quickfire round...

Leeds and Bradford International Airport’s initially hidden by pubic hair (5)


And yeah, impressive. I've never finished a gruan prize one. But then I've a very short attention sp
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 06, 2011, 03:07:03 pm
The next clue's going to be interesting   ;) ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on September 06, 2011, 03:20:01 pm
I'm scratching around :)

All I can think of is other daft Jay and Silent Bob Strike back Acronyms.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 06, 2011, 03:42:48 pm
Slab , I accepted the french coffee (2, 7) ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 09, 2011, 06:40:35 pm
 :tumble: ....... Anybody out there ? .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on September 10, 2011, 02:35:33 pm
 
:tumble: ....... Anybody out there ? .......

  :yawn:  :coffee:   :weakbench:   :dance1:  .....ok, I'm ready, give us a clue...  :please:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 10, 2011, 05:42:46 pm
' I accepted ' is totally superfluous ...... It's only there to get labia into the clue .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 13, 2011, 02:58:26 pm
Slab , (I accepted ) the french brand of coffee ( 2, 7 ) ............
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 14, 2011, 10:15:32 am
There's probably a granite slab somewhere in spain called 'La Nescafe'?  And there's no doubt 'Pedriza' got to be a brand of coffee :-\

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on September 14, 2011, 10:39:34 am
La Nescafe is a slab problem on the Cuvier red circuit, to the left of the Marie Rose. I just hadn't had chance to make up a clue....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 14, 2011, 11:43:36 am
Oh dear. You mean there’s bouldering apart from the Swastica Stone easies?  Sorry for the fine display of ignorance. Things ain’t going to improve:

Coco Cola, Nescafe, Jo from getting on Perry’s hubby all identifying livestock (6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 14, 2011, 05:51:04 pm
A symbol , something Willie Brandt would have spent  after swapping ( 9 ) ........


I'm hoping that the answer to the last clue was (5) not (6) ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 14, 2011, 09:21:28 pm
once people stop trusting you.... they're  all examples of brands plural as per the deffn, so six letters. hey ho not to worry
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 15, 2011, 07:15:25 am
 :sorry: ......

A symbol that Russell Brand spanking would leave after swapping ....... (9) 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 20, 2011, 07:41:59 pm
Police inspector tackles trademark rip-off? [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 22, 2011, 09:16:17 pm
We all cool with this one?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 23, 2011, 01:35:27 pm
er, yeah. Apart from not actually being able to do it.




(showing my working: synonym for 'police'' - many different meanings inc oversee, or for 'rip-off'. Off could signify anag of r-i-p. Trademark could be logo or a few other things I guess. Police Inspector could be abreviated to PI. Dunno what tackles signifies. Getting nowhere.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on September 23, 2011, 01:42:22 pm
I think I might know the answer, but I'm probably wrong and my clues are terrible.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 23, 2011, 04:02:54 pm
I think I might know the answer, but I'm probably wrong and my clues are terrible.

This makes it a bit clunkier, but should tell you if you're answer is correct. [sic]

Fictional police inspector tackles trademark rip-off characters? [8]

As will:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510jek2PKgL.jpg)

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on September 24, 2011, 09:53:57 am
I think I'm way off,if saxophones are involved.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 24, 2011, 09:59:31 am
I know young Crumpage has the answer.

(On which track did the saxophone memorably appear?)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 24, 2011, 05:58:55 pm
I admit to knowing the answer aLICE ......... But another clue from me will cost you a dram from that bottle of  Springbank ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on September 26, 2011, 04:25:35 pm
Sherlock Holmes bizarre hustle (6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 26, 2011, 05:03:30 pm
Sherlock Holmes wasn't a copper…
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on September 26, 2011, 05:07:59 pm
Which seems to be a reasonable point.

Thought it was that from all the chat about saxophones etc.

Give grumpycrumpy a dram so we can move this thread along then please.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 26, 2011, 06:03:21 pm
Balestra ,  deep unthinking jump after taking the piss ( 5 ) ...... I expect the dram's in the post  ;) .....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 26, 2011, 07:01:25 pm
Balestra ,  deep unthinking jump after taking the piss ( 5 ) ...... I expect the dram's in the post  ;) .....

Not given the unmitigated disaster that was Friday.

(I'm still in tears, you know!)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 27, 2011, 10:44:28 am
Lestrade, bollocks. How stupid is it possible to be? (The big clue confused me more, and believe me I’m easily confused, there being a series of books about a fictional Inspector Rafferty).  Anyway…

Sung by large lunged ladies they chose those slain in battle, Richard gave them a ride  ( 9 )
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on September 27, 2011, 11:15:28 am
jx2/gc, how did that clue work? I'd got lunge from the synonym, but couldn't justify it from the rest of the clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on September 27, 2011, 11:16:51 am
Ah bollocks, see it the moment I post! p for piss removed from plunge. :slap:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 27, 2011, 11:39:48 am
Valkyries fans , we get excited with ring seat ( 10 ) ..........
 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 27, 2011, 12:13:49 pm
Valkyries fans , we get excited with ring seat ( 10 ) .......

Ride of The Valkyries fans , we get excited by ring seat ( 10) ........


Makes much more sense ..........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 28, 2011, 07:15:16 am
Dang and blast it  :slap:  :slap:    :spank: .... Still not right ....... I enjoy solving them , but setting them is a right sod .......


Ride of Valkyries fans , we get excited with ring seat  ( 10 ) ........


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on September 28, 2011, 12:15:19 pm
While you're editing, any chance you could stop putting a space between the previous word and a comma? It hurts my eyes.  :blink:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on September 28, 2011, 12:48:16 pm
Dang and blast it  :slap:  :slap:    :spank: .... Still not right ....... I enjoy solving them , but setting them is a right sod .......


Ride of Valkyries fans , we get excited with ring seat  ( 10 ) ........

Shaken Wagnerites lose Ring bearing perspiration (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 28, 2011, 01:08:56 pm
While you're editing, any chance you could stop putting a space between the previous word and a comma? It hurts my eyes.  :blink:

Hmmmmmm, yeah, okay ........
 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 28, 2011, 03:46:38 pm
Classic highball musical, mixed up sweat without a direction and got involved with a chain of broken B&Q's, Homebase's  etc.  ........... ( 4,4,5)


Better Duma ? .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on September 28, 2011, 03:57:59 pm
apart from the misplaced apostrophes.....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 28, 2011, 04:15:38 pm
Except they’re not apostrophes - ’ - they’re foot glyphs - '.

Foot glyphs. Foot glyphs. I said foot glyphs.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 28, 2011, 04:17:29 pm
I've got a plan .........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on September 29, 2011, 09:50:34 pm
Better Duma ? .......

Much, thank you. (and apologies if I came off as a tit, it wasn't meant as a dig)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 30, 2011, 12:15:18 pm
No worries Duma I didn't take it as such, merely as constructive criticism  ........


I'm pretty sure this one has been solved and everyone's just thinking of how to put the answer into a clue .........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on September 30, 2011, 12:28:25 pm
I'm pretty sure this one has been solved and everyone's just thinking of how to put the answer into a clue .........

Oh indeed, but since it takes me about three days to construct any sort of clue I'm almost invariably beaten to the punch. But please don't stop, this is one of my favourite threads even if I don't often think fast enough to contribute!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on September 30, 2011, 12:45:08 pm
Intellectual sparring, fight of west side story without deserts, yo (6,2,4)

 :sorry: it's crap
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on September 30, 2011, 01:14:20 pm
Battle of words results in grass welts, we hear. [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 30, 2011, 01:20:16 pm
nearly but not quite right - so 'ave this!

Unarmed combatant in a battle of wits whose fedora would remain in place notwithstanding a mind blowing experience. (2, 6, 4, 8, 4, 7, 4, 3, 3, 3)





(and yes I do forsee complaints but honestly the answer's easy to work into the right type of clue)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on September 30, 2011, 01:23:14 pm
dammit! was so excited to have thought of a clue I didn't even really check my answer!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 30, 2011, 01:27:50 pm
yeah,

I spent bloody ages failing to find nicely anagraming synonyms for imbecile, (I do it) but couldn't find any, stuck that up in exhasperation. Only to find I'd been been beaten to the punch. So sorry.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on October 03, 2011, 03:56:03 pm
nearly but not quite right - so 'ave this!

Unarmed combatant in a battle of wits whose fedora would remain in place notwithstanding a mind blowing experience. (2, 6, 4, 8, 4, 7, 4, 3, 3, 3)





(and yes I do forsee complaints but honestly the answer's easy to work into the right type of clue)


I don't mind admitting that I'm struggling with this one ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on October 04, 2011, 10:31:09 am
with answering or setting?


If the former it's just a pun. (An unarmed combatant in a battle of wits isn't going to be that bright; something about removal of headgear.)

If the latter, just use the solution as a deffinition...

Alternatively why not revert to Duma's clue? Which I can't solve. Grass welts?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on October 04, 2011, 12:22:47 pm
y'know, like if grey matter were instead an explosive substance
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on October 06, 2011, 05:09:02 pm
I don't deserve my clue used, will teach me to check...

this is how it worked:
grass-hay, welts-stings, we hear-sounds like
altogether it's a battle, the rest was just padding.

Can't do yours though, despite the extra clues.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 06, 2011, 06:54:11 pm
If brains were dynamite...own hat off? etc. etc. etc. ?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 06, 2011, 08:16:14 pm
I'm going to assume (2, 6, 4, 8, 3, 7, 4, 3, 3, 3), mangle the answer,  and say


A tyro kid with a flashcard creates a simile for "If brains were dynamite, you couldn't blow yer hat off" [5,2,1,4,2,4]


Just for the sake of getting it moving.

(Feel free to shoot it down, and backtrack somewhere else people)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on October 07, 2011, 03:03:43 pm
Close enough. ("If brains were dynamite they wouldn't blow his hat off" I thought was the line. Clearly only I thought this)

“Thick as a yard of lard”, “daft as a brush”: smiles including Johnx2?   (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on October 09, 2011, 07:17:27 pm
Similes,mixed metaphor,some will change you (12) ........   
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on October 10, 2011, 10:14:56 am
Close enough. ("If brains were dynamite they wouldn't blow his hat off" I thought was the line. Clearly only I thought this)

“Thick as a yard of lard”, “daft as a brush”: smiles including Johnx2?   (7)

 :thumbsup:  nice clue John....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 10, 2011, 11:57:13 am
Forty Cherubs metamorphosed - became Larry Grayson? [5,7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 11, 2011, 01:35:35 pm
We cool with this?

An alternative might be

Forty Cherubs metamorphosed and superseded Leslie Crowther? [5,7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on October 11, 2011, 02:35:28 pm
I've done it, so I'm sure others have. will try and clue later this pm.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on October 11, 2011, 02:51:14 pm
sequel to bruce forsyth's game perpetuates the species? [3,4,10]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on October 11, 2011, 04:14:03 pm
the next generation of declining insects? (11)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on October 13, 2011, 08:33:52 pm
Have I killed this?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on October 14, 2011, 09:21:34 am
Forgot about it, was hoping someone would come up with a better clue than my usual rubbish.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 16, 2011, 10:30:26 am
Have I killed this?

Any letters and/or visual clues?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on October 17, 2011, 02:44:25 pm
descendants.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on October 17, 2011, 08:02:10 pm
Now we just need someone to put it in a clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on October 18, 2011, 10:01:52 am
well if no one minds:


Pours out from descendants, missing successful ascent (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on October 20, 2011, 02:40:29 pm
...so has this just failed to make it to the top of anyone's to do list yet? I can't think why that would be, so perhaps a clue might be appreciated?  In which case what's a common term to describe the successful climbing of a boulder problem?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on October 20, 2011, 02:53:23 pm
I was just so disgusted by your Americanism I was boycotting.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on October 20, 2011, 03:17:50 pm
don't hate on the clue dude   :ohmy:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on October 20, 2011, 05:00:43 pm
I'm going to regret my previous comment, first because I actually thought it was a great clue, but mainly because this is such rubbish:

Decants wine, sobers up? [11]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 02, 2011, 05:27:21 pm
Any ideas on this one, people?

- Any more clues, D?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on November 04, 2011, 10:40:29 am
I can't do it. It looks like a pun-type but with words I don't know which is unlikely as I know a lot about decanting wine.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on November 04, 2011, 03:56:21 pm
 :agree: ........ Definitely something to do with words .........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on November 09, 2011, 10:04:00 am
sorry everyone, not only was it an awful clue, I then went to font and left you all with it...

In fact, though I know the answer, I can't remember (or yet work out) how I meant the clue to work!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on November 09, 2011, 10:10:52 am
ummmm, so the definition is at the end. the first half also is a somewhat lateral definition.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on November 10, 2011, 06:28:33 am
Hmmmmmmmmm .......... I'm still none the wiser  :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on November 10, 2011, 09:36:06 am
unbends
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on November 10, 2011, 10:07:59 am
Decants wine, sobers up? [11]

unbends

Tricky to get that as an 11 letter word!

My vote is Duma goes again as he stitched us all up!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on November 10, 2011, 10:19:35 am
No no.

_ T _ _ _ G _ _ E _ _
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on November 10, 2011, 10:44:18 am
Right I'm with you!

Got it.

I'll try and do a clue in a minute but if anyone else wants a go, knock yourselves out!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on November 10, 2011, 10:52:26 am
I've got it too (I think) ......... I'm now trying to work backwards through the original clue ...... I get the sobers up bit, but not knowing much about wine decanting leaves me at a bit of a disadvantage ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on November 10, 2011, 01:26:06 pm
ah here goes

A woman’s not straight, ensures she sound like Dawson’s quare fellow writer  ( 7 )


can't see this taking long. But I'll not go to Font just in case.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on November 10, 2011, 02:00:54 pm
Ok, run that by me again...  :please:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on November 10, 2011, 02:19:03 pm
Ok, run that by me again...  :please:

A woman’s not straight, ensures she sound like Dawson’s quare fellow writer  ( 7 )


is the answer.  He said confidently. It means 'sobers up' and also 'decants wine', though why and how this works, nooooobody knows. No one at all. Best not to ask.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on November 10, 2011, 03:26:04 pm
Ok, run that by me again...  :please:

A woman’s not straight, ensures she sound like Dawson’s quare fellow writer  ( 7 )


is the answer.  He said confidently. It means 'sobers up' and also 'decants wine', though why and how this works, nooooobody knows. No one at all. Best not to ask.
  Ah, of course he says, trying to look like he knows what's going on....  :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on November 10, 2011, 06:58:30 pm
"Straightens" was the answer to Duma's clue, because it means sobers up, and as an alcofrolick drink can be described as a straightener, it could just about at a push could mean pours out wine.

Or is my clue unclear?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on November 11, 2011, 03:15:33 pm
Invulnerable, makes sales bi-annual without direction (12)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 11, 2011, 06:30:16 pm
Material in dossier is not unassailable? [7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 13, 2011, 12:14:28 pm
We all cool here?

Traveling Wilburys - Handle With Care {Music Video} (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ89HHSq9b8#)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 14, 2011, 04:25:16 pm

- - - G - - -
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on November 14, 2011, 04:33:12 pm
fragile finish we hear? (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on November 16, 2011, 08:30:17 pm
Or alternatively:

Mr Livingstone surrounded by cannabis, it must be time to relax (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on November 17, 2011, 03:19:13 pm
Perrier week end? Sounds like, that’s fine! (4)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 17, 2011, 05:27:53 pm
Hopefully, I've not done this one before: but I'm not convinced it's not buried further "up-thread"…

Asif realizes crooked economic policy is callous, brutal, and lackadaisical [7-5]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on November 17, 2011, 06:13:29 pm
Laissez-faire Beatles song (3,2,2)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on November 17, 2011, 11:44:08 pm
Never let it be said Perrin's masterpiece is close to unprintable. (6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on November 22, 2011, 10:50:26 am
nope, can't see how to do that one. Any chance of a clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on November 22, 2011, 11:57:25 am
Route at a popular crag?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on November 22, 2011, 12:09:44 pm
Sorry, already had the answer to that, just hadn't had chance to set a clue. Probably a bit crap/easy, but :-

To censor without direction breeds contempt (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on November 22, 2011, 03:37:43 pm
dag nab it I even googled his bloody books  :slap:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: john horscroft on November 28, 2011, 11:21:42 am
Horny Fen plot produces cornucopia  (4,2,6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 28, 2011, 05:08:26 pm
I'll sue poor accursed crone, it is method to get Horn of Plenty? [11,14]

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 28, 2011, 09:35:35 pm
)Apologies for the desperately contrived clue, btw. For the solution - all I can say is "Wikipedia is your friend")
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on November 29, 2011, 09:05:41 am
Black trumpet player shot snake shelter by the sound of it (10, 9)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on November 29, 2011, 10:05:12 am
Sorry, that should have been (10, 8)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on November 29, 2011, 12:26:29 pm
aargh...: ( 10, 8 )
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on November 29, 2011, 09:38:28 pm
Where's the answer to ARFK's clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 30, 2011, 09:17:06 am
"Black Trumpet".

(I think under the circumstances we'll let this one ride.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on November 30, 2011, 09:28:08 pm
 :???:
[11,14]
 :shrug:
I'm being thick aren't I?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on November 30, 2011, 09:45:58 pm
:???:
[11,14]
 :shrug:
Craterellus cornucopioides (After Googling...)
I'm being thick aren't I?
No.  Just honourable by not googling clues.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 30, 2011, 11:57:19 pm
:???:
[11,14]
 :shrug:
I'm being thick aren't I?

Nope.

More or less what MA said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craterellus_cornucopioides (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craterellus_cornucopioides)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 05, 2011, 01:07:55 pm
Black trumpet player shot snake shelter by the sound of it (10, 98 )

Is Miles Davis/Louis Armstrong/"Dizzy" Gillespie the right type of thinking here?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on December 05, 2011, 04:01:02 pm
It would have been if Cannonball Adderley played trumpet, but he didn't, so my face is  red. Sorry.

To get this back on track:

Warm 'n salty ions dance to black trumpet player ( 6, 8 )

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 05, 2011, 10:44:35 pm
It would have been if Cannonball Adderley played trumpet, but he didn't, so my face is  red. Sorry.

To get this back on track:

Warm 'n salty ions dance to black trumpet player ( 6, 8 )

Now what would you of done [sic] if I'd quoted his name then?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on December 06, 2011, 08:48:35 am
Good question. Probably I would have (a) been even more embarrassed, and (b) given you the points.  :sorry:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 10, 2011, 12:21:19 am
Nobody had any brainwaves as to how we frame a clue round this answer?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on December 11, 2011, 02:59:52 pm
wynton marsalis without end adds a cooking wine ....... (7)

And yes I know it's shit , but I haven't tried to write a clue for a while ........ 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on December 16, 2011, 07:28:57 pm
Is everyone ok with this one ? .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on December 16, 2011, 09:34:49 pm
yup, will try and clue soon. Had forgotten about this thread tbh.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on December 19, 2011, 07:40:54 pm
wynton marsalis without end adds a cooking wine ....... (7)

Marsala honesty? Innovative, innovative Sir (2,4,7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 20, 2011, 08:56:15 pm
[Contrivance alert]

When IN VINO VERITAS pirate found voice? [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 21, 2011, 08:55:11 pm
Hwe all cool hwith this one?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on December 23, 2011, 12:37:58 pm
One eyed and silver tongued he won't get your asp irate (5,7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 23, 2011, 02:25:38 pm
How you getting on with the bumper PE xword?

40a = "Maintenance", but I can't see the wordplay?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 26, 2011, 04:36:17 pm
I am struggling with these last two

30d N-N-M-H

52d -H-I-H-B-T

http://private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=crossword& (http://private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=crossword&)

Stumped!

Ideas folks?

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on December 27, 2011, 05:17:27 pm
I'll have a look at it tonight .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on December 28, 2011, 11:09:00 am
I am struggling with these last two

30d N-N-M-H

52d -H-I-H-B-T

http://private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=crossword& (http://private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=crossword&)

Stumped!

Ideas folks?


In 52d, I think your first H might be incorrect, the answer looks like DISINHIBIT (much revered woman = DI, go astray = SIN, hello = HI, piece = BIT).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 28, 2011, 01:51:00 pm
56a - Treatment of worried Tories happy to restrict Home Secretary's extrermes [13] = "Psychotherapy", surely?



Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 28, 2011, 02:01:44 pm
Except it's "physiotherapy".

Good arrows, people!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 28, 2011, 02:11:38 pm
And 30d is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Nkrumah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Nkrumah)

(34a was re-interred, not re-interned)

The power of Google


Ta Da!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on December 30, 2011, 08:08:03 am
Well done youth ..........  :bow:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on December 30, 2011, 12:15:11 pm
Getting back onto the clues :-

One eyed and silver tongued he won't get your asp irate (5,7)

Fantasised about snake charmer (9)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 02, 2012, 11:00:22 pm
Getting back onto the clues :-

One eyed and silver tongued he won't get your asp irate (5,7)

Fantasised about snake charmer (9)

Have you astounded the weans with your predictive skills and mesmerism yet?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on January 03, 2012, 08:26:11 am
Grumpy major sussed it straight away ........ I miss their gullibility ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on January 03, 2012, 12:32:40 pm
Bentley's beauty has Dreamboat Annie crew in the groove? No, the opposite! (6,2,2,3,5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 12, 2012, 06:02:53 pm
Bentley's beauty has Dreamboat Annie crew in the groove? No, the opposite! (6,2,2,3,5)



:jab:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on January 12, 2012, 06:47:46 pm
Bentley's beauty has Dreamboat Annie crew in the groove? No, the opposite! (6,2,2,3,5)

It's clear where groove is in the heart [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on January 20, 2012, 10:13:29 am
Swap parent with flexible moist swallowing graduate and enjoy the crack (13)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on February 02, 2012, 03:19:37 pm
did i mess this thread up?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 02, 2012, 06:48:28 pm
did i mess this thread up?

No ........ But I don't mind admitting that I'm finding it quite tough ....... I can't decide if it's an anagram of 'moist graduate' or whether I'm missing summat ....... 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 02, 2012, 08:25:45 pm
did i mess this thread up?

So give us some letters then to get it moving once more?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on February 02, 2012, 10:48:58 pm
s---p---b---e

"...and with a little forethought avoid the 'long reach left'..."
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 03, 2012, 10:43:43 am
it was a fair enough clue (graduate = BA, parent and moist give the other letters), it's just the answer's not easy to set. After which preamble/excuse:

From what Strapiombante is to what RF says TPS and ZC are now (the former to some debate); S&P did this to France! ( 8 )
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on February 03, 2012, 04:51:29 pm
You sure about it being 8 letters?


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: slackline on February 03, 2012, 04:58:07 pm
Downgrade?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 03, 2012, 05:34:52 pm
Downgrade?

Eight letters?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 03, 2012, 08:56:22 pm
(9)

work was busy, can't fucking count, yadda yadda. so yeh downgrade.sorry.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 07, 2012, 06:09:54 am
Swap parent with flexible moist swallowing graduate and enjoy the crack (13)

Damned fine clue that....... :clap2:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 10, 2012, 04:43:52 pm
Swap parent with flexible moist swallowing graduate and enjoy the crack (13)

Damned fine clue that....... :clap2:

How you getting on with PE 462?

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: slackline on February 10, 2012, 04:57:51 pm
I've not got a clue as to how to set cryptic crossword clues so someone else can pose the next conundrum.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 11, 2012, 05:38:31 am
Swap parent with flexible moist swallowing graduate and enjoy the crack (13)

Damned fine clue that....... :clap2:

How you getting on with PE 462?

About halfway ....... You ? ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 11, 2012, 10:11:34 am
Swap parent with flexible moist swallowing graduate and enjoy the crack (13)

Damned fine clue that....... :clap2:

How you getting on with PE 462?

About halfway ....... You ? ......

Got 15a and 16d last night!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 13, 2012, 10:22:14 am
Swap parent with flexible moist swallowing graduate and enjoy the crack (13)

Damned fine clue that....... :clap2:

How you getting on with PE 462?

About halfway ....... You ? ......

Got 15a and 16d last night!

I didn't ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 13, 2012, 04:04:13 pm
Swap parent with flexible moist swallowing graduate and enjoy the crack (13)

Damned fine clue that....... :clap2:

How you getting on with PE 462?

About halfway ....... You ? ......

Got 15a and 16d last night!

I didn't ......

Wordplay still beyond me on 15a tho'.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 14, 2012, 05:06:37 pm
I've not got a clue as to how to set cryptic crossword clues so someone else can pose the next conundrum.

ah come on, I have a go and I can't even count. Yer basic pun is probably the simplest type of cryptic, something like: 

Dr Moreau can build own grade increasing board (10, honest I've counted)

would just about do it

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: burbistan on February 17, 2012, 08:52:34 am
Dr Moreau can build own grade increasing board (10, honest I've counted)

Nice clue.

Could trained beast make rough feeling go in French prison? ( 8 )
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 17, 2012, 12:21:59 pm
Put your electricity charge in front of a yorkshire dale and you'll become a prisoner in the Bastille  (8).........


   
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 17, 2012, 12:30:49 pm
Put your electricity charge in front of a yorkshire dale and you'll become a prisoner in the Bastille  (8).........


 

Bizarre ........ That's meant to be 8, eight, huit etc etc ........   
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on February 17, 2012, 01:25:32 pm
Voltaire became adulterer without one (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 17, 2012, 02:46:38 pm
loverat, loverat ( 8 )
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on February 17, 2012, 10:17:28 pm
Nice. Is it not (3,5) though?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 18, 2012, 06:54:56 pm
Nice. Is it not (3,5) though?

Yes, I guess so  :-[ ....... How about (3-5) as a compromise .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 24, 2012, 11:53:31 am
Let's get topical, topical...
Let's get topical oooh let's get in to topical:



Dubliners writer but Pudsey’s Andrew? Twot ‘im Eric!  (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 28, 2012, 09:51:27 am
...and getting less topical by the day. Anyone want a clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 28, 2012, 04:20:43 pm
Still working on a response youth .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 29, 2012, 05:01:14 pm
Joyce's part, sounds like a morbid fear of the dark and satanic (7) ......

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 29, 2012, 06:48:55 pm
It's vomit! Start of chavdazzle broadcast -  George and Mildred, for example? [3,6]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 01, 2012, 11:56:04 am
 when stans teem at Ilkley, shite ITV sitcom (3,3,9) 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 01, 2012, 04:04:36 pm
A worthy and honourable edited the New Statesman? [7,6]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 01, 2012, 06:09:11 pm
A worthy and honourable edited the New Statesman? [7,6]

This one's gonna be a reet bugger to follow ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 01, 2012, 07:57:39 pm
Anthony Howard's organ's article has a leaning bearing on king. (3,8)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 06, 2012, 12:46:52 pm
Anthony Howard's organ's article has a leaning bearing on king. (3,8)

I've got an answer, but not the wordplay that supports it.

Any chance of a further clue to narrow it down?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 06, 2012, 02:24:47 pm
how much do you want? Wikkipedia gives the game away pretty quickly I've thought. The wordplay's pretty conventional. 'Article' and 'king' are std crossword, there's a synonym in there, and for bearing think kind of direction this guy's pointing...

(http://www.citynewcastle.co.uk/attractions/angel-of-the-north.jpg)


blimey he's bigger than I was expecting. And I mean his big wing of course. 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 06, 2012, 02:34:15 pm
Anthony Howard's organ's article has a leaning bearing on king. (3,8)

I've got an answer, but not the wordplay that supports it.

Any chance of a further clue to narrow it down?

'bearing on Brenda/ Queen' ? ........
 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 06, 2012, 02:55:53 pm
'Anthony Howard's organ' is as in 'Lord Gnome's organ'; wordplay in the clue is in the same sequence as the answer.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 06, 2012, 05:04:13 pm
'bearing on Brenda/ Queen' ? ........

instead of 'king' I could have said Ron initially* or summat. But that would've been contrived.





*ie a shite way of cluing the letter 'R'. To be fair to me this was a quick phone post. I've not fucked up again have I?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 06, 2012, 06:20:30 pm
King gives you an R, Queen gives you ER, Private Eye use Brenda for the same letters, sometimes ...... And aLICE we both know from experience that 'Lord Gnome's organ' is almost bound to give a different answer from Johnx2's  ' Anthony Howard's organ' ........       
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 06, 2012, 06:35:52 pm
You've not fucked up. I had no Idea who anthony howard was, but the wordplay is obv once you google him.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 06, 2012, 06:41:39 pm
Duuuuh!

[dullard]

 :slap:

[/dullard]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tomtom on March 06, 2012, 07:13:54 pm
No.

No offence meant, but for a long time now I've felt the compulsion to answer the question in the thread title whenever I  see it. So I have. Ner.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 06, 2012, 08:55:56 pm
Yes
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 07, 2012, 12:18:10 pm
Just to get this shifting again…


Man-in-the-street, say, compiles The Observer crossword [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 07, 2012, 01:13:00 pm
 that's not the right answer.

(Leaning = list, and the bearing was East North East.) I'm in danger of coming over a bit Paxman here init?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 07, 2012, 01:36:45 pm
that's not the right answer.

(Leaning = list, and the bearing was East North East.) I'm in danger of coming over a bit Paxman here init?


Quote from: AliceRobertsfanKlub

[dullard]
[dullard]

Duuuuh!

[dullard]

 :slap:

[/dullard]

[/dullard]

 :wall:  :wank:  :slap:  :slap:  :slap:

D'Oh!

[/dullard]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 08, 2012, 03:14:23 pm
that's not the right answer.

(Leaning = list, and the bearing was East North East.) I'm in danger of coming over a bit Paxman here init?


Quote from: AliceRobertsfanKlub

[dullard]
[dullard]

Duuuuh!

[dullard]

 :slap:

[/dullard]

I don't know aLICE, using t'internet to solve crossword puzzles ...... Shame on you  :jab: 

[/dullard]

 :wall:  :wank:  :slap:  :slap:  :slap:

D'Oh!

[/dullard]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 08, 2012, 03:44:15 pm
that's not the right answer.

(Leaning = list, and the bearing was East North East.) I'm in danger of coming over a bit Paxman here init?


Quote from: AliceRobertsfanKlub

[dullard]
[dullard]

Duuuuh!

[dullard]

 :slap:

[/dullard]


[/dullard]

 :wall:  :wank:  :slap:  :slap:  :slap:

D'Oh!

[/dullard]

I don't know aLICE, using t'internet to solve crossword puzzles ...... Shame on you   




Though you could use it to teach yourself html…
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 08, 2012, 04:57:00 pm
What's html ?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 09, 2012, 08:17:27 am
Right ........ Are we going to see if aLICE can solve this rather tricky clue, or are we going to help him out by setting another one ? ......... 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 09, 2012, 11:07:30 am
Oh. I've solved it. [Now.]

But I was going to pass the conch to someone who's solved it correctly first

(I'm happy to try and think up one for the real answer.)

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 09, 2012, 11:38:46 am
For starters the listener flies off the handle [7]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 12, 2012, 08:16:08 pm
We all cool with this one?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 13, 2012, 06:28:07 pm
…or do you need it serving up on a plate?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 14, 2012, 05:21:20 pm
I'm getting the feeling that it's got summat to do with food ....... 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 14, 2012, 05:57:24 pm
 :clap2:

(You're also looking for a synonym for "handle")
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 15, 2012, 09:36:22 pm
knob :yes:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 16, 2012, 04:06:47 pm
knob :yes:

(http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/Drums/july10/neil-peart-steampunk-kit-460-100-460-70.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 18, 2012, 09:49:33 am

--T----
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 20, 2012, 06:34:20 am
--T---S
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 21, 2012, 06:32:39 am
-NT---S


(And short of giving you the answer, that's about it.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 22, 2012, 07:25:46 am
That confirms the answer I've got ....... But as I can't make it fit the clue I think I'll defer until bigger brains come along ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on March 22, 2012, 07:45:47 am
That confirms the answer I've got ....... But as I can't make it fit the clue I think I'll defer until bigger brains come along ......

+1
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 22, 2012, 03:17:30 pm
plus another, I'd thought it was what I think it is since the first 'on a plate' clue though I've no idea why. Nowt big about my brain, but in an effort to get this moving, we know the deffn is "For starters"  so the answer won't be say...

(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR-1bA8jSOQqH0t8vv9IgmoLzGLH2Xi42oXQqQpb0zaFdHxj4DWLQ)

"the listener" had to be in but should also contribute to the clue (the hard bit usually), so think 'ear' or summat;

"flies off" - either signifies an anag of 'flies', or there's a synonym for it say 'flits';

"the handle" we're told has a synonym. Presumably not 'knob'.

None of this can I make fit the answer I get from deffn and letters which is in the following (intended to be) very easy one:


Nineteen trees, say, Dibble (5)




Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 22, 2012, 03:58:49 pm
aLICE has kindly sent me a pm explaining how one gets to entrees ........ It does make complete and utter sense, but I think I'd better let him take you through it himself ...... 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 22, 2012, 05:04:42 pm
For Starters = Definition

"The Listener" flies = anagram

"off" the handle.

Handle = "Hilt"

"The Listener" - "Hilt" = TESENER -> Entrees
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 27, 2012, 10:34:22 am
Nineteen trees, say, Dibble (5)

No takers? This was meant to be a quick one. I could've said 'fuzz' rather than Dibble. Or some hip hop word like 'police'.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 27, 2012, 12:20:54 pm
Yeah. I'd worked that out, and now it's prompted and outright "Duh" moment as to the solution.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 27, 2012, 02:19:31 pm

...so the deffn is at the number of trees end of the clue rather than the slang name for police end...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 27, 2012, 02:29:20 pm
Indeedy!

Everyone goes into unkempt copse for a slice of veal [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 28, 2012, 06:59:19 am
aLICE has kindly sent me a pm explaining how one gets to entrees ........ It does make complete and utter sense, but I think I'd better let him take you through it himself ......

You finished the PExWord yet?

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 28, 2012, 07:39:54 am
Four to go ..... Particular favourite this time 'Run through Gnome piss' ...... How are you getting on with it ? ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 28, 2012, 09:25:43 am
Four to go ..... Particular favourite this time 'Run through Gnome piss' ...... How are you getting on with it ? ......

Like I said - finished: ba-da bing!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 29, 2012, 08:11:30 am
Four to go ..... Particular favourite this time 'Run through Gnome piss' ...... How are you getting on with it ? ......

Like I said - finished: ba-da bing!
Aah, you were just being smug ....... 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 31, 2012, 12:04:24 pm
Quote from: 'aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB'


Everyone goes into unkempt copse for a slice of veal [8]

Fluck! Sounds like mescal opened Morrison's (4)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 31, 2012, 12:18:40 pm
Quote from: 'aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB'


Everyone goes into unkempt copse for a slice of veal [8]

Fluck! Sounds like mescal opened Morrison's (4)

I suppose I can let you get away with that on the newly-invented "variant spelling" rule.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 31, 2012, 12:34:00 pm
Sorry - doing this on a shit blackberry and didn't check back. I've got a better one about a scall if you like?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 31, 2012, 12:41:44 pm
Run me through this anagram please ........ I got everyone = all + unkempt 'copse' ........ Try as I might I couldn't get 'escalope' out of it ........ 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 31, 2012, 01:16:29 pm
"escallop"

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/escallop (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/escallop)

escallop - thin slice of meat (especially veal) usually fried or broiled
cutlet, scollop, scallop
slice, piece - a serving that has been cut from a larger portion; "a piece of pie"; "a slice of bread"
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on March 31, 2012, 01:23:07 pm
It's 'all' for everyone plus 'copse' equals 'escallop'; unfortunately composing a clue in my head I converted it to an alternate spelling. Which is annoying because I was going to do one about the scall opting for summat. Anyway can we go with the Fluck one?     
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 31, 2012, 01:45:24 pm
Oh yeah. Run with escalope, no point in going backwards.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 03, 2012, 06:53:59 pm
I could've said 'huxley' instead of 'morrison'

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on April 06, 2012, 11:29:12 am
An easy one for the Bank Holiday weekend .......

Door support with no balls but plenty of digits, useful if you like the crack (7) ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 09, 2012, 09:23:25 am
An easy one for the Bank Holiday weekend .......

Door support with no balls but plenty of digits, useful if you like the crack (7) ........


Yep.

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on April 11, 2012, 09:55:26 am
I'm presuming everyone's solved this and are merely trying to work the answer into a clue ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 11, 2012, 10:26:09 am
Just looking now, I know what I think it is from door support and handy for cracks, but I don't know how the digits bit works.

So in case I'm right how about...

“Jamming, we’re jamming” got messy, wingmen Jim and Gemma bailing leaving only a swift one. (3)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on April 12, 2012, 05:32:53 am
Just looking now, I know what I think it is from door support and handy for cracks, but I don't know how the digits bit works.

So in case I'm right how about...

“Jamming, we’re jamming” got messy, wingmen Jim and Gemma bailing leaving only a swift one. (3)

Close, but no cigar  ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 13, 2012, 01:31:55 pm
Just looking now, I know what I think it is from door support and handy for cracks, but I don't know how the digits bit works.

So in case I'm right how about...

“Jamming, we’re jamming” got messy, wingmen Jim and Gemma bailing leaving only a swift one. (3)

Close, but no cigar  ........


And? :jab:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on April 13, 2012, 04:20:47 pm
Just looking now, I know what I think it is from door support and handy for cracks, but I don't know how the digits bit works.

So in case I'm right how about...

“Jamming, we’re jamming” got messy, wingmen Jim and Gemma bailing leaving only a swift one. (3)

Close, but no cigar  ........


And? :jab:

And now you work it out properly :whip:.......

   
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on April 16, 2012, 07:39:36 am
Pass t' preserve through the servery door, but no tea as making it's a best forgotten art (7) ......

Hopefully this'll move it along a bit ....... 

 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 16, 2012, 05:28:44 pm
Pass t' preserve through the servery door, but no tea as making it's a best forgotten art (7) ......

Hopefully this'll move it along a bit ....... 

 

Alternatively just tell someone the answer!   :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on April 17, 2012, 07:35:35 am
Pass t' preserve through the servery door, but no tea as making it's a best forgotten art (7) ......

Hopefully this'll move it along a bit ....... 

 

Alternatively just tell someone the answer!   :2thumbsup:
Yeah right, like that's an alternative   :spank:........ 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on April 17, 2012, 08:28:18 am
Had the answer a bit back, just haven't come up with a decent clue yet. I think it's HANDJAM. If someone else wants to do the honours, I don't mind. Otherwise, I'll try and think about it at lunch.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on April 17, 2012, 12:17:01 pm
Had the answer a bit back, just haven't come up with a decent clue yet. I think it's HANDJAM. If someone else wants to do the honours, I don't mind. Otherwise, I'll try and think about it at lunch.

See aLICE, how hard was that  :shrug: ?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on April 17, 2012, 01:37:26 pm
Not sure if this works, struggling to get handjam into a clue so it's going to have to do :-

Libellous? Lewd? To Censor is close to the perfect solution, handjams might provide an alternate way. (11)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 07, 2012, 10:53:59 pm
<<bump>>
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on May 08, 2012, 09:53:02 am
Different clue, same answer :-

Offensive text disrupts turbine plan (11)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 08, 2012, 12:09:24 pm
Different clue, same answer :-

Offensive text disrupts turbine plan (11)



(http://www.legaljuice.com/idea%20good%20interesting%20light%20bulb.png)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 11, 2012, 04:44:28 pm
Lose money in unprintable edit of book. [5]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 18, 2012, 07:32:36 am
We cool with this?

Instead of "lose money" I could've said <yada> (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/haemorrhage) money…
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 25, 2012, 06:58:23 am
Is this thread dead then?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5VmxX6Q_nxo/T47VsUR0NtI/AAAAAAAAAEs/0ehNJe0JFDE/s1600/ph06_5.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on May 25, 2012, 08:00:20 am
I've been trying to find a currency that when taken out of 'unprintable' leaves a five letter word that makes sense ....... No joy so far ....... 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 25, 2012, 10:43:46 am
wha? Isn't this a really easy see it in a glance hidden word one that's pretty much been spelt out?

I mean it's possible I'm wrong and all.

But if not...

Sang with nosebleeds, hurt, wrote Ulysses, and got the drift without a turn: these guys could be black and hammer things out (3, 6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 26, 2012, 05:12:03 am
wha? Isn't this a really easy see it in a glance hidden word one that's pretty much been spelt out?

I mean it's possible I'm wrong and all.

But if not...

Sang with nosebleeds, hurt, wrote Ulysses, and got the drift without a turn: these guys could be black and hammer things out (3, 6)

Yes.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 28, 2012, 02:54:02 pm
yes I'm wrong?


This is meant to be an over-intricate easy by the way.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on May 28, 2012, 05:39:42 pm
No.

Yes you were right - "Bleed"

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on June 10, 2012, 12:53:40 pm
Violent exchange produced records by The Smiths? [5,5]


Sang with nosebleeds, hurt, wrote Ulysses, and got the drift without a turn: these guys could be black and hammer things out (3, 6)


(Can you explain the Andy Rourke bit of that clue btw?)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on June 11, 2012, 09:14:33 am
Rorke's Drift... Can't see my clue whilst posting via shite bbry but think I'll've said 'without a turn' to mean minus the U. Were I not on a phone I would have instead posted a pic of Michael Caine shouting 'Zulus! Thaaaaasands of 'em!'. Or was thay killer bees?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on June 15, 2012, 10:02:30 am
Rough trade loses article with post office in Albert’s coinage   ( 8 )


A bit contrived but hey.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on June 22, 2012, 05:13:38 pm
Was it natural causes or have I killed this fine thread? If the latter, I could have said "Kurt" instead of* "Albert"...

















*Or indeed as well as
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 04, 2012, 02:36:17 pm
Additional extra clue for the hard of thinking?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on July 04, 2012, 07:50:15 pm
+1
I've only got as far as taking "the" out of "rough trade" which seems a dead end
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on July 05, 2012, 06:52:27 pm
I now seem to have Kurt Albert and redpoint stuck in my head ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on July 05, 2012, 07:20:58 pm
rotpunkt then? can't really make it work, but i suppose rt from rough trade, po from post office, punt for the coinage, kurt for the k? seems even less likely now I write it down
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 06, 2012, 10:52:47 am
Rough trade loses article with post office in Albert’s coinage   ( 8 )


A bit contrived but hey.

the answer has already been said (ok perhaps I could have said albert's coinage translated into english?) 

'Rough' is an anag signifier with 'trade' supplying the letters but we don't need the 'a' hence 'loses article'; 'post office' gives 'PO' and 'in' is just 'in' init?

Fairish?? I think I just liked the idea of previous answer supplying some of the cluing mechanism.



Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on July 06, 2012, 03:01:22 pm
Rough trade loses article with post office in Albert’s coinage   ( 8 )


A bit contrived but hey.

the answer has already been said (ok perhaps I could have said albert's coinage translated into english?) 

'Rough' is an anag signifier with 'trade' supplying the letters but we don't need the 'a' hence 'loses article'; 'post office' gives 'PO' and 'in' is just 'in' init?

Fairish?? I think I just liked the idea of previous answer supplying some of the cluing mechanism.

Does this mean I've got to set a clue now ? ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 06, 2012, 03:46:25 pm
Rough trade loses article with post office in Albert’s coinage   ( 8 )


A bit contrived but hey.

the answer has already been said (ok perhaps I could have said albert's coinage translated into english?) 

'Rough' is an anag signifier with 'trade' supplying the letters but we don't need the 'a' hence 'loses article'; 'post office' gives 'PO' and 'in' is just 'in' init?

Fairish?? I think I just liked the idea of previous answer supplying some of the cluing mechanism.

Does this mean I've got to set a clue now ? ........

Yep.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on July 09, 2012, 07:40:01 am


Seventies redpoint style could lead to sex in public places (7) .......


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 09, 2012, 01:51:31 pm
Where’s G-Land and Padang Padang? What’s Snoop Dogg in Gin and Juice smokin’? Starting indoors! (4)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 09, 2012, 04:35:04 pm
Got up stylish herbal infusion? [4,3]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 09, 2012, 08:32:37 pm
Eh? Not Bali...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 09, 2012, 08:42:21 pm
<muttermuttermutterit'safaircopmuttermuttermutter>
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: metal arms on July 09, 2012, 10:54:32 pm
Where’s G-Land and Padang Padang? What’s Snoop Dogg in Gin and Juice smokin’? Starting indoors! (4)

Make fat-ass Ted indomitable (9)

(Although i think Snoop was smoking endo)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 16, 2012, 12:37:29 pm
Steadfast errand-boy hid Daisy? [5]

[Haven't I already done this one once before?]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 17, 2012, 02:09:49 pm
probably



Sport cheats disaster! (11)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on July 17, 2012, 04:35:19 pm
Sorry, sorry. I meant:


A sport cheat disaster! (11)


(This is now solvable. Been rubbish all day. Sleep deprivation.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on July 17, 2012, 10:10:06 pm
oh crap, from catastrophe comes sense (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on July 23, 2012, 01:32:09 pm
A right humanist served  “A Taste of Honey”? [4, 10]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 07, 2012, 01:48:05 pm
We all cool with this one?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on August 07, 2012, 04:08:25 pm
We all cool with this one?

I dreampt about this clue last night. And I fell out of bed twice.

I've had a roomful of semi-trained chimps working through anagrams of "a right humanist" hoping to find something which chimes with Delaney and Richardson's 1961 classic, so far without success.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 07, 2012, 04:33:48 pm
We all cool with this one?

I dreampt about this clue last night. And I fell out of bed twice.

I've had a roomful of semi-trained chimps working through anagrams of "a right humanist" hoping to find something which chimes with Delaney and Richardson's 1961 classic, so far without success.

I was trying for a Delaney-themed anagram, but couldn't quite hack one that scanned that well or made any sense.

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on August 09, 2012, 07:45:17 am
I cracked the anagram ...... But building a clue around it is too much for my limited mental resources ......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on August 09, 2012, 11:44:42 am
ka bleedin' ching. I am even thicker than I thought.

But setting's the easy bit if you think shite enough. You could say there's a bit of a trick to it:

My Sharona and Rita Tushingham both got this! (3,5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on August 09, 2012, 11:55:29 am
(Although i think Snoop was smoking endo)

I concede that the internet is divided on this point:

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%22smokin%27+indo%22&word2=%22smokin%27+endo%22 (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%22smokin%27+indo%22&word2=%22smokin%27+endo%22)

But "smokin' indo" wins pretty comfortably.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 14, 2012, 10:17:23 am
Bit of a clunkage alert:


Only partly see “The Knack” make one apoplectic? [6]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on August 14, 2012, 11:43:45 am
Seethe at Stoney classic [5]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 14, 2012, 11:47:03 am
Hang on, you want a clue or the answer?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 14, 2012, 12:19:28 pm
To wrongly vilify rot is mere froth [9]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 21, 2012, 07:46:22 am
We all cool with the answer to this one, or another clue needed?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on August 21, 2012, 10:09:08 am
Was trying to find an anagram of the wrong letters last time I looked. Think I've got it now - no extra clue needed, just need some time to set a new one.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on August 21, 2012, 01:52:32 pm
Brief hesitation after frivolity provides court entertainment (6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 21, 2012, 02:24:54 pm
Jester visits laughing grouse group's champion (9)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 21, 2012, 06:44:46 pm
What's the etiquette with asking if you lot need some more clues? How long should I leave it?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 22, 2012, 03:01:35 pm
I tend to leave it a week.

[That's either asking if it's OK, or prodding for more help if it's someone else's clue]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 22, 2012, 03:03:39 pm
A week?! I was hoping this would be a quick-fire game. Come on, come on...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on August 22, 2012, 03:39:28 pm
Then if you want to add more clues, please do.

It's not as if it's meant to be anything other than a mild diversion from the day-to-day existence of our moribund and humdrum lives.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 22, 2012, 03:45:12 pm
"Grouse group" is a little misleading. An area in which grouse perform their mating display is more accurate.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 23, 2012, 10:13:00 am
In Kandahar, Lequin wrote about a jester (9).
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: mr__j5 on August 23, 2012, 11:52:16 am
the answer is pretty obvious, but I can't be bothered to take the baton and set a new clue
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 23, 2012, 01:05:24 pm
Spoilsport  >:(
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on August 23, 2012, 10:58:18 pm
confused harlequins lose foreign currency (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 24, 2012, 11:15:54 am
This may not be right, and may also be a crap clue.

A din 'ar kid makes in the desert. (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on August 24, 2012, 11:32:10 am
You're right, it's not right.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 24, 2012, 12:43:20 pm
Stumped...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on August 24, 2012, 01:06:47 pm
Why did you think it was Dinar?

You've got the right idea, a currency, but the wrong one...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 24, 2012, 01:44:44 pm
If you lose money to something it's a drain (on finances) and drain confused = dinar. I've been trying to find synoyms for harlequin that, when rearranged, contain a foreign currency that can be taken away from the word to leave another five-letter word.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on August 24, 2012, 01:48:17 pm
Keep trying...

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 24, 2012, 02:12:51 pm
Real IRA singe sun drunkenly ( 8 )
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on August 24, 2012, 02:32:48 pm
Nope, sorry.

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on August 24, 2012, 02:56:28 pm
Arsemunch. Feel free to solve mine, you'll probably find them easy.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 04, 2012, 09:50:02 pm
Help?

 :please:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on September 04, 2012, 09:59:26 pm
confused harlequins lose foreign currency (5)

It's an ((very) obscure) unit of currency.

"Harlequins lose (another word for) foreign"

Confused

Should be pretty very easy now with a spot of google...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on September 06, 2012, 01:57:32 pm
I've no idea what I should be googling. Some anag of quins?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on September 06, 2012, 02:19:23 pm
foreign, E.T., not of this world....

take that away from hArLEquINs

and mix up the leftovers to give an obscure unit of currency.

I feel like I've done something wrong, sorry :(

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on September 06, 2012, 02:48:42 pm
Yeah, get rial.

Concocting a clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on September 06, 2012, 02:51:00 pm
One might gamble a few qursh whilst in Makkah. (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 06, 2012, 07:20:09 pm
foreign, E.T., not of this world....

take that away from hArLEquINs

and mix up the leftovers to give an obscure unit of currency.

I feel like I've done something wrong, sorry :(

And to think I was running with "Haler", and trying to see how "quins" was a synonym for foreign.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 20, 2012, 05:38:23 pm
Two weeks old; is it time to declare this thread "dead"?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on September 20, 2012, 05:47:39 pm
Two weeks old; is it time to declare this thread "dead"?
Or just set a clue? I've got no idea about the last one, makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 20, 2012, 06:47:56 pm
Two weeks old; is it time to declare this thread "dead"?
Or just set a clue? I've got no idea about the last one, makes no sense to me.

Any chance of another clue, Andi?

[Or give us some of the letters?]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on September 20, 2012, 11:52:51 pm
What's the anglicised version of Makkah?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 28, 2012, 07:00:13 am
What's the anglicised version of Makkah?

Bingo !........

Clue to follow ......... 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on September 29, 2012, 06:23:57 am
Old fashioned bar maid adds right to assist in building with meccano (6)
Title: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tomtom on September 29, 2012, 08:54:13 am
Old fashioned bar maid adds right to assist in building with meccano (6)


Wrench  (I hate crosswords ;) )
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on September 30, 2012, 09:59:15 am
Old fashioned bar maid adds right to assist in building with meccano (6)


Wrench  (I hate crosswords ;) )

(7,1,4) ?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 04, 2012, 12:43:47 pm
That was intended as much as the next entry, as a retort for "not following the rules of the game", btw folks!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on October 05, 2012, 09:35:14 am


Wrench  (I hate crosswords)

and yet, and yet, it can be solved if the answer is 1,5,5,3: 

I stress choad row? There’s nowt at Windgate Nick, tell him! (4,4)


(To show my working: 'wrench' is the anag signifier, 'cross words' is the deffinition as well as being pat of the letter pool 'I hate crosswords', so the answer can refer to an argument, and the non cool list, ie correct, spelling of  'choad' is used.)

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on October 05, 2012, 09:53:51 am
Mick Ryan is one of these. (4)

Not so cryptic, sorry.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on October 05, 2012, 09:56:02 am
Well that had you stumped for a while...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on October 05, 2012, 10:04:17 am
I've spent plenty of time finding out just how much there is at Windgate Nick and other crags along that edge!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 05, 2012, 11:05:45 am
(Mine was "Without a Clue")

Back to Andi's as the "live" one.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on October 05, 2012, 11:21:19 am
(Mine was "Without a Clue")

 :slap:

But then hang on? That means it was a clue, so therefore the answer must be wrong?? So it only works as a clue if you don't answer it. The moment you answer correctly, you're wrong. I'm off for a lie down.

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 05, 2012, 11:58:49 am
No - it was a response to "wrench" - the correct answer to the previous clue, which was unclued as an entry.

It also terminated in a "?" - which is a marker for an "& lit." clue - and it's also its own definition, and as this was"without a clue", and there's no text to quote in the previous one, it's accurate.

So there!

[Or something]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 05, 2012, 12:01:26 pm

<smug>
And in other news I finished the PEX-word last night.
</smug>
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on October 05, 2012, 02:20:40 pm
Mick Ryan is one of these. (4)

Not so cryptic, sorry.

Can't solve this either. No way of knowing whether the next clue's going to involve Wastwater, Scunthorpe, or possibly even David Icke etc etc
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on October 05, 2012, 07:08:34 pm
Any would do. I'd also have accepted arsenal, Foolow, doorknob, wash it, many more...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 10, 2012, 07:06:47 pm
Mick Ryan is one of these. (4)

Not so cryptic, sorry.

Anyone any the wiser?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on October 10, 2012, 07:36:26 pm
Yes, most people I would imagine. Surely if you read the two posts preceding yours you would get the gist and make up a clue of your own.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 10, 2012, 07:55:59 pm
But the clue has to point to one, single, unambiguous answer.

And there appears to a a veritable cornucopia of possible reponsses.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on October 10, 2012, 08:11:11 pm
Too scared to use your imagination? Just pick a swear word and invent a clue from it.
Title: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tomtom on October 11, 2012, 07:04:04 am
Four letters. Clue:

Sir Tonys unsharp crevice.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on October 11, 2012, 11:01:33 am
But the clue has to point to one, single, unambiguous answer.

And there appears to a a veritable cornucopia of possible reponsses.

I thought that the one, single and unambiguous answer to the clue was, by seemingly general concensus amongst the members of this forum, 'cunt' ......... I am, of course, willing to be corrected ..........   
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 11, 2012, 12:04:52 pm
But the clue has to point to one, single, unambiguous answer.

And there appears to a a veritable cornucopia of possible reponsses.

I thought that the one, single and unambiguous answer to the clue was, by seemingly general concensus amongst the members of this forum, 'cunt' ......... I am, of course, willing to be corrected ..........   

But it appears there were people who were prepared to be uncharacteristically polite in this instance. (pace Scunthorpe, of course)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on October 11, 2012, 03:35:54 pm
Four letters. Clue:

Sir Tonys unsharp crevice.

Is this a clue? And if it is, where's the answer to "Mick Ryan is one..."? I'm not trawling the Profanisaurus/internet from work for synonyms for vagina I've not encountered (the synonyms that is. As in "ee Connie, tha's got a reet nice unsha..." (DH Lawrence) or whatever). Also, why no apostrophe on "Tonys"?

I was going to put something together involving not having been to scunthorpe and raving with the freshers, semester to semester. Neither of these being things to brag about, in my view. 

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on October 11, 2012, 03:42:41 pm
Also, why no apostrophe on "Tonys"?

Because Tomtomtom likes to wind me up by misusing them.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 18, 2012, 10:20:37 pm
Four letters. Clue:

Sir Tonys unsharp crevice.

Is this a clue? And if it is, where's the answer to "Mick Ryan is one..."? I'm not trawling the Profanisaurus/internet from work for synonyms for vagina I've not encountered (the synonyms that is. As in "ee Connie, tha's got a reet nice unsha..." (DH Lawrence) or whatever). Also, why no apostrophe on "Tonys"?

I was going to put something together involving not having been to scunthorpe and raving with the freshers, semester to semester. Neither of these being things to brag about, in my view.

What he said.

Is this a clue? - Sir Tonys unsharp crevice. [4]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 24, 2012, 04:10:21 pm
<Bump>

Four letters. Clue:

Sir Tonys unsharp crevice.

 :jab:

etc.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on October 24, 2012, 04:34:09 pm
crazy dragons lair loses a bag of sand but leaves tar(6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: moose on October 24, 2012, 04:55:40 pm
sailor
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 24, 2012, 06:22:25 pm
King - dreadful actor - dressing "Popeye the Sailor's" predecessor? [6, 8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 25, 2012, 12:09:04 pm
King - dreadful actor - dressing "Popeye the Sailor's" predecessor? [6, 8]

King, a dreadful actor, dressing "Popeye the Sailor's" predecessor? [6, 8]

[Better scansion?]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 31, 2012, 04:06:37 pm
Seeing as it's the best part of a week:

The not-quite-accurately-named:

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil_of_orange/players/sirnotap.jpg)

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120816195148/popeye/images/0/0a/Who-are-Popeye-Characters.gif)

(Think "Picture", not "Film")
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on November 17, 2012, 08:40:34 pm
Ha! <Smug mode>

Have finished PEX-word!

FAO mods - as this seems to have expired from natural causes, can it now be binned off to the Logpile.

[I'll post the solution to the last clue if anyone wants it, or it you all still want to solve it, PM anyone desperate enough for the answer.]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on November 18, 2012, 01:39:34 pm
I've got the answer........ Been a bit too busy recently to form a clue around it ....... I kept hoping that someone else would grasp the nettle ......... 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 05, 2012, 04:06:07 pm
If someone wants to step up to the plate?

(http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsC/3614-18265.jpg)

(http://koreanbeef.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/how-to-cook-a-ham.jpg)

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/food/ic/food_16x9_608/foods/g/gravy_16x9.jpg)


[Or I'll do another (easier and less obscure!) using that answer?]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on December 10, 2012, 11:57:59 am
alright let's have a go...

> King - dreadful actor - dressing "Popeye the Sailor's" predecessor? [6, 8]

The pictures don't seem to be helping, unless Popeye follwed Corbet Hamgravy? Sonham Schooner?

Trying to make something work with "H" from Steps toe and Son but it ain't happening.

I'd prefer if this thread didn't die as it's not like I'm going to post about bouldering or anything.


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 10, 2012, 12:36:55 pm
alright let's have a go...

> King - dreadful actor - dressing "Popeye the Sailor's" predecessor? [6, 8]

The pictures don't seem to be helping, unless Popeye follwed Corbet Hamgravy? Sonham Schooner?

Trying to make something work with "H" from Steps toe and Son but it ain't happening.

I'd prefer if this thread didn't die as it's not like I'm going to post about bouldering or anything.

Character.

Not the actor.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on December 10, 2012, 01:12:42 pm
How the fuck are we supposed to work Harold Hamgravy into a clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 10, 2012, 02:43:31 pm
How the fuck are we supposed to work Harold Hamgravy into a clue?

Interestingly enough, word-for-word what der Grumpmeister said to my face!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on December 10, 2012, 02:46:32 pm
Poor King Harold! Ham, gravy, apple sauce, red wine, try not to spill them on this as the stains are a bugger to shift. (7,8)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on December 10, 2012, 09:55:21 pm
Popeye is clearly one of my cultural blindspots though not one I can be arsed rectifying,

I can't get a grip on the next clue either. I want th answer to be bayeux tapestry, even though it clearly can't be. Plenty of anag signifiers but no obvious 15 letters... If it's a proper ximinean then the deffn's got to be 'shift' or 'bugger to shift' as it's unlikely to be at the other end. Ah well, fade back into the background.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on December 11, 2012, 09:15:33 am
My bad.

(6,8)

Misspelled it in my mind.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 11, 2012, 10:32:46 am
Before the events of “The Bayeux Tapestry”, farmstead girl fobbed tot off. [6,2,8,6]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on December 11, 2012, 10:38:15 am
Before the events of “The Bayeux Tapestry”, farmstead girl fobbed tot off. [6,2,8,6]

Billions were invested at the Battle of Stamford Bridge. (5,10)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 11, 2012, 10:46:44 am
Bothery!

Should have left that to JohnnyX.

Apologies!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 11, 2012, 11:27:46 am
Openly louche ideologue gains approval re. cut-price hotel startups - like Roman Abramovich? [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on December 13, 2012, 02:42:12 pm
Rough trolling’s no pastime for pignoli! Gar! Chub! Fucking carp! (6,7)



Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 13, 2012, 07:46:40 pm
Disease revealed in coarse fishing lesson [8]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 19, 2012, 09:58:17 am
We all cool with this one?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on December 19, 2012, 10:14:42 am
Forgot about this - I'll set a clue at lunch if no-one else has got round to it.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 19, 2012, 05:04:59 pm
Forgot about this - I'll set a clue at lunch if no-one else has got round to it.

 :tumble:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on December 20, 2012, 10:52:03 am
Forgot about this - I'll set a clue at lunch if no-one else has got round to it.
Sorry, got busy at work. Probably too easy :-

Shingle, sand or pebble? Behind lazy surfer? (5-3)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on December 20, 2012, 11:02:15 am
On-point Barry reminds us to buy some large Rizla ( 8 )
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 20, 2012, 11:24:29 am
On-point Barry reminds us to buy some large Rizla ( 8 )

OK. What am I missing here?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on December 20, 2012, 11:26:45 am
I doubt you'll get it. Stabbsy should.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on December 20, 2012, 11:32:46 am
On-point Barry reminds us to buy some large Rizla ( 8 )

Where's the answer to my clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on December 20, 2012, 11:36:34 am
I thought point bar was something to do with surfing breaks and stuff.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on December 20, 2012, 11:38:44 am
Isn't a point bar something to do with sand deposits in river systems? A-Level geography was a long time ago. Either way, that's not the answer.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on December 20, 2012, 11:40:18 am
Yeah, I thought it might have been applicable to sediment channels in the sea too...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 20, 2012, 11:46:23 am
Ah. I see.

I left geography behind at about the point we got to ox-bow lakes.

Title: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tomtom on December 20, 2012, 12:09:42 pm
Isn't a point bar something to do with sand deposits in river systems? A-Level geography was a long time ago. Either way, that's not the answer.

Deposit of sand or gravel on the inside of a river bend...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 28, 2012, 03:53:54 pm
Forgot about this - I'll set a clue at lunch if no-one else has got round to it.
Sorry, got busy at work. Probably too easy :-

Shingle, sand or pebble? Behind lazy surfer? (5-3)

I've got three possible responses here - but none of them are really much cop.

If anyone else wants to pick up the conch, I've not a probelm with that?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on December 29, 2012, 07:50:21 am
Covering bet on blood group exposes beach bums? [9]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 04, 2013, 01:27:23 pm
We cool?

Or do we need another clue?


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 08, 2013, 11:23:26 am
My reply could have been along the lines of

Precious stalwart hesitated  to become (American-style?) beach bum. [4-7]

Giving a different (but largely synonymous) answer.

"Active" clue is still

Quote
Covering bet on blood group exposes beach bums? [9]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 12, 2013, 09:19:05 am
Sad news.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crosswords/cryptic/25842 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/crosswords/cryptic/25842)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 12, 2013, 09:35:18 am
Wrong link:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crosswords/2013/jan/11/crossword-araucaria-reveals-dying-cancer?CMP=twt_fd (http://www.guardian.co.uk/crosswords/2013/jan/11/crossword-araucaria-reveals-dying-cancer?CMP=twt_fd)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 12, 2013, 09:44:29 am
Reminded me of this from the last clue in Crispa's (Ruth Crisp) last crossword -

"A hollow farewell (4)"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/jan/29/pressandpublishing.guardianobituaries (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/jan/29/pressandpublishing.guardianobituaries)




Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 14, 2013, 05:23:45 pm
Covering bet on blood group exposes beach bums? [9]

- A - A - - - - -

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 18, 2013, 03:00:23 pm
- A Y A - - - - -

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on January 18, 2013, 03:11:13 pm
ah come on!

the only word that fits is bayantler, the second tine of a stag's horn. Honestly. Not something I can connect to covering, covering bets or bums.

I've tried coming at it via covering bet (eg saver), beach bums (inc baywatch), bloodgroups (A B O AB r+ and r-), and of course via the many, many synonyms that exist for bums, tramps, scrounges, buggers, bottoms. And all I get is   :spank:'ed

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 18, 2013, 03:18:29 pm
ah come on!

the only word that fits is bayantler, the second tine of a stag's horn. Honestly. Not something I can connect to covering, covering bets or bums.

I've tried coming at it via covering bet (eg saver), beach bums (inc baywatch), bloodgroups (A B O AB r+ and r-), and of course via the many, many synonyms that exist for bums, tramps, scrounges, buggers, bottoms. And all I get is   :spank:'ed

Not meant in the context of a punter covering the bet, more the bookie.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on January 18, 2013, 04:23:59 pm
Layabout shoe (6)

Sorry, possibly the worst clue ever .......
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 18, 2013, 05:18:15 pm
Layabout shoe (6)

Sorry, possibly the worst clue ever .......

I quite liked it!

[Layabout's shoes (7), "betterer", perhaps?]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on January 19, 2013, 06:46:06 am
Betterer indeed ........ Cheers youth 

Layabout's shoes (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 19, 2013, 08:17:43 am
On a related issue, I never really know when setting these whether to add a question mark (?) at the end of some of the clues.

What, exactly, are the "rules" for including one?

Because from this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptic_crossword#Cryptic_definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptic_crossword#Cryptic_definition)

Quote
Notice the question mark: this is often (though by no means always) used by compilers to indicate this sort of clue is one where you need to interpret the words in a different fashion. The way that a clue reads as an ordinary sentence is called its surface reading and is often used to disguise the need for a different interpretation of the clue's component words.

I'm not sure that

Quote
Covering bet on blood group exposes beach bums? [9]

is that, given it's more of a "synonyms for the sum of the parts"  giving the definition.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 21, 2013, 11:15:32 am
Language found where loafers eat. [4]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on January 25, 2013, 11:32:58 pm
As I'm away for the weekend - your additional clue comes from homophone corner -

(http://images02.c21.weblinc.com/resources/century21/images/products/processed/1540-7313.924grey.a.superZoom.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 01, 2013, 01:33:28 pm
And this is a clue to a near homonym…

(http://sharetv.org/images/father_ted_uk/father_jack_hackett-char.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 07, 2013, 01:27:52 pm
We all cool with this one?

Quote
Language found where loafers eat. [4]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 07, 2013, 04:34:49 pm
yes, it's an easy one, which I consider to be a good thing. And now having posted I guess I'd better think of another. Thing is the answer's one of those words you often see in crosswords because it can be made a component of loads of others. Too many options. How about:


He wrote this is the way the world ends, but gaining an aerophobic jester sympathiser minus title, would put his thang down, flip it and reverse it (5) 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on February 07, 2013, 05:29:00 pm
That doesn't quite work, does it? - Eliot wrote The Hollow Men, the other reference is to Missy Elliott, so you need to allow for the extra L as well as the extra T.

Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 07, 2013, 08:59:10 pm
 :furious:  bollocks balls and fuck that's me back into retirement. Make that 'losing student aerophobic fool pitying etc etc'. Ah carry on...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 07, 2013, 09:09:55 pm

Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]

Whilst obviously î can't do this I would like just to note that charnel addition anags to ethnical android. Which is probably more than 12 letters but hey... or hand clitoridean. Or hind declaration.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 08, 2013, 11:47:56 am

Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]

Whilst obviously î can't do this I would like just to note that charnel addition anags to ethnical android. Which is probably more than 12 letters but hey... or hand clitoridean. Or hind declaration.

So blame VAT fee débâcle for Ash Wednesday, for example? [8,5]

PS. If the good Stabbsy would explain the wordplay to this bear of little brain?

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on February 08, 2013, 01:35:25 pm
Not actually that cryptic, just requires a knowledge of Peak esoterica. Sorry - I forget sometimes that not everyone spent their formative years reading the Peak guides from cover to cover. I'll leave it a bit longer and then set another clue....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 08, 2013, 02:31:22 pm

Quote
Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]


if that's a chew ref, then how about:

Sound of a hound, by the wasteland (lacking a student and a pause) – King George is on key? (5)


(yorks knowledge necessary)


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 08, 2013, 02:42:18 pm
So blame VAT fee débâcle for Ash Wednesday, for example? [8,5]

in case we're on this a quickie:

Greek cheeses from moveable feast? (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on February 08, 2013, 02:57:31 pm

Quote
Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]


if that's a chew ref, then how about:

Sound of a hound, by the wasteland (lacking a student and a pause) – King George is on key? (5)


(yorks knowledge necessary)


We're on this one. I had to check that Eliot wrote The Wasteland, but knew location, grade and first ascentionist of the route without looking at a guide. I think this indicates an unevenness in my education...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 08, 2013, 04:49:25 pm

Quote
Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]


if that's a chew ref, then how about:

Sound of a hound, by the wasteland (lacking a student and a pause) – King George is on key? (5)


(yorks knowledge necessary)


We're on this one. I had to check that Eliot wrote The Wasteland, but knew location, grade and first ascentionist of the route without looking at a guide. I think this indicates an unevenness in my education...

"The Waste Land"…
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 12, 2013, 09:23:51 pm

Quote
Eliot's Charnel addition [3,9]


if that's a chew ref, then how about:

Sound of a hound, by the wasteland (lacking a student and a pause) – King George is on key? (5)


(yorks knowledge necessary)


We're on this one. I had to check that Eliot wrote The Wasteland, but knew location, grade and first ascentionist of the route without looking at a guide. I think this indicates an unevenness in my education...

"The Waste Land"…

Apparently Grumpy Crumpy gave me a "wad" for that!

- Had it been me it'd've been a "smite" for pedantry.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 13, 2013, 09:13:32 pm
I might yet smite you for arguing with my decision ........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 13, 2013, 10:40:43 pm
I dunno, four pints and you're gregarious, outgoing, and affable.

Get down that fifth one, and you become belligerent and obstreperous.


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on February 14, 2013, 04:10:57 am
 :agree: :guilty:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 15, 2013, 09:21:43 am
sorry to interupt, but here's a clue as to location...


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/15/article-0-0015843A00000258-934_306x423.jpg)

(http://media1.santabanta.com/full1/Global%20Celebrities(M)/Vin%20Diesel/vin-diesel-5a.jpg)
(http://www.franzfoto.net/images/tour-battling-bighorns.jpg)
(http://www.realbeauty.com/cm/realbeauty/images/Y1/rb-red-hair-tress-1-0809-mdn.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on February 15, 2013, 09:28:26 am
Only two of the routes on the UKC database have 5-letter names in and I can't make them fit with the clue and my Yorkshire guide is at home...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on February 15, 2013, 09:47:24 am
Misspelling again? Gronff has 2 F's.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 15, 2013, 09:53:36 am
I've done it again.

I was about to post that it's six letters. Spelling dog noises (origin of name) was never a strong point. This time I will retire.

Smite me someone, i'll feel better for it.


Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on February 15, 2013, 03:34:27 pm
I've done it again.

I was about to post that it's six letters. Spelling dog noises (origin of name) was never a strong point. This time I will retire.

Smite me someone, i'll feel better for it.





Nah.

But you can have a wad for Che-Vin-Butt-Tress.*


[* Or as I had it as a non-climber, Che-Vin-Oryx-Lock]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on February 15, 2013, 11:02:00 pm
I think it's called a Rebus? Not the Scottish detective

(Just saw karma)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on February 19, 2013, 10:47:40 am
okay back for more punishment. I thought I might have killed this as Gronff with two f's is too hard to work into a clue. But it can be done... eg Big Ron FFA at the Tor: how pert! (3,4) etc etc

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on February 19, 2013, 10:53:06 am
Jerry falls off the prow and makes way for metalworkers (5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 15, 2013, 05:10:16 pm
A metalworker is a smith, and that's as far as I've got ........

 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on March 18, 2013, 09:40:31 am
"It's a jug now!"
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on March 19, 2013, 11:59:31 am
Could you elaborate further? Haven't got the faintest idea.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on March 19, 2013, 12:27:01 pm
Cresciano?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on March 19, 2013, 01:50:10 pm
Bit contrived. I think I get the reference now, but still not clear what the answer is.

- Is it Smith? If it is, shouldn't the clue be worded ".... makes way for metalworker" and I'm still not sure the rest of the clue fits.
- Or is it the name of the problem? - can't remember as I've only seen the film once but I think the possible problems are La Proue, La Pelle, La Boule so letters should be (2,5)
- Or is it none of the above?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on March 19, 2013, 01:55:52 pm
Yes, my bad, should be metalworker. Jerry falls off the prow (La Proue), brushes the crimp, proclaims, "it's a jug now!" Then Malc crushes it.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 19, 2013, 09:22:06 pm
Does this mean that the next clue's mine ? .........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on March 19, 2013, 10:13:36 pm
Does this mean that the next clue's mine ? .........
Get setting...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on March 21, 2013, 10:53:11 am
Pah, uses the pissed lame smith !........ (10)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on March 21, 2013, 01:23:40 pm
Like Hephaestus, the Steel City's sponsor (6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 22, 2013, 01:01:19 pm
Hammer and clobber snout - using what was carried by vulcan? [13 ,5]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on March 22, 2013, 01:41:52 pm
Good clue, although I'm unsure how I'm weaving that into a new clue.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 23, 2013, 08:15:21 am
I would have thought there was plenty of scope with that one?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 23, 2013, 03:51:41 pm
"Ban thermonuclear bombs!" Cried paid examiners [10]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 23, 2013, 09:46:36 pm
Since no-one's replied, can I amend this to:
Falling climbers yell "ban thermonuclear bombs!" [10]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on March 25, 2013, 05:24:02 pm
Same answer? I get the first one, but my answer doesn't fit the second too well.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on March 25, 2013, 09:51:44 pm
yeah same answer.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on March 26, 2013, 08:47:50 am
Hold the front page. Angry protesters pass without tears (4,5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on March 26, 2013, 12:09:38 pm
Latest grieveances listed in "Stop Press"? [5,6]
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 02, 2013, 05:44:39 am
Latest grievances listed in "Stop Press"? [5,6]

Grandstand - Opening Titles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FUdpqLLxPM#)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 07, 2013, 05:01:04 pm
We all cool with this, or do you good people need another visual clue?

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 09, 2013, 03:16:57 pm
(http://www.computing.co.uk/IMG/739/218739/fine-370x229.JPG?1335182139)  E

+

(http://collider.com/wp-content/image-base/People/A/Al_Pacino/Al_Pacino%20(1).jpg)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2010/11/23/1290536021110/al-murray-in-germany-007.jpg)
(http://images.ted.com/images/ted/1443_253x190.jpg)

+

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_641/13193868614JAg5L.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: grumpycrumpy on April 10, 2013, 08:35:13 am
Final scores lead to perfect eyesight (6, 6, 6) ..........
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on April 10, 2013, 09:07:07 am
Blooming coach has Twenty20 vision (4,6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: schloosh on April 10, 2013, 09:26:34 am
Andy Flower
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: schloosh on April 10, 2013, 09:27:44 am
And the answer to the previous post is in the last post!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on April 10, 2013, 10:17:56 am
Good, now post a clue involving the answer, as per usual...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: schloosh on April 10, 2013, 10:48:29 am
Balls, I missed the point (completely)
should have read the thread not the last post....
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 11, 2013, 07:10:32 pm
Balls, I missed the point (completely)
should have read the thread not the last post....

When you're ready kidder…

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on April 12, 2013, 02:49:52 pm
Has anyone out there got a clue with which to pick the ball up on this one?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on April 12, 2013, 02:52:24 pm
Andy Flower's new foundation (4)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 25, 2013, 02:40:27 pm
Andy Flower's new foundation (4)

Brown's way by root route - a marsupial's issue? (4,5)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: crimp on April 25, 2013, 03:20:19 pm
I am the first to admit i ain't the sharpest tool in the box.

Will somebody please explain in simple terms for simple folks how this thread works?

Marsupial's issue?

What's the answer?

Joey spunk?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on April 25, 2013, 05:28:55 pm
Joey spunk?

 :no: ....but I like your thinking.

Likewise I get may called a tool often; sharp not so much. But it's just a matter  of following cryptic crossword rules: 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/may/03/how-to-solve-cryptic-crossword (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/may/03/how-to-solve-cryptic-crossword)

...plus including the answer to the previous question in the new clue you set. So with the previous one:

Quote
Andy Flower's new foundation (4)

...you know the answer's going to be at the start of the clue or the end: ie Andy, Andy Flower, or foundation, or new foundation, and is going to be four letters long.

Then you need to work out what sort of clue it is (see link for types of clue). The word 'new' might at first sight suggest an anagram is involved, using the letters of 'foundation' mixed up in some way. But given the answer's only four letters this can't be the case. So I guessed it was a kind of pun. And vaguely remembered that Andy Flower is the England cricket coach - actually looking at the thread this is spelt out, though I didn't notice - and that there's a new batsman called Root. And root is just about a synonym for foundation, enough for me to hope it's the right answer anyway and stick it in my clue. Which someone may want to get round to solving in the next day or so, so I'll say no more. Oh aye and a little bit of climbing trivia tends to get mixed in from time to time.





Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 02, 2013, 02:15:27 pm
okay should have said

[/quote]
Brown's way by root route - sounds like a marsupial's issue? (4,5)
[/quote]

anyone want a clue?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on May 07, 2013, 09:24:40 am
I searched the UKC database for routes called root route but only found things called route right of root route and others. Am I barking at the wrong tree root?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 07, 2013, 11:09:56 am
what some might call cheating (but we're reached that point), I would call barking up entirely the right tree. 

http://www.ukclimbing.com/general/search.html?cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&cx=012320157739014986830%3Azyxmlwsazli&q=root+route&sa.x=1&sa.y=13 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/general/search.html?cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&cx=012320157739014986830%3Azyxmlwsazli&q=root+route&sa.x=1&sa.y=13)

(First hit - ignore sussex nonsense. Could also be done via the shite pun. A clue I for which I should apologise.)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: andy_e on May 07, 2013, 11:24:45 am
OK, I think I've got it but I'm struggling to link it to the shit pun. The fruit of the kangaroo's loins? Anyway...

Under the roof, router accesses the super-highway (9)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: johnx2 on May 07, 2013, 11:53:26 am
OK, I think I've got it but I'm struggling to link it to the shit pun.

issue = offspring = fruit  in about the tenth definition of each. 
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on February 16, 2019, 09:39:39 pm
[Apologies for thread resurrection]

Seem to recall a few UKB-ers having ambitions around completing a Guardian Cryptic.

Well, based on how unusually quick I've coursed through today's, if you still have that ambition get on it!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Will Hunt on February 16, 2019, 10:14:46 pm
Do they do a Saturday one? Got a link?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tomtom on February 16, 2019, 10:35:36 pm

www.guardian.co.uk/saturdaycrossword (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Guardian+Saturday+Crossword)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Will Hunt on February 16, 2019, 10:45:50 pm
Ffs!  :chair:
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tomtom on February 16, 2019, 10:48:04 pm
Ffs!  :chair:

😂😂
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on February 17, 2019, 08:00:39 am
Should add that while it was in my opinion not too bad, there were a couple of pretty tough / poor (delete as applicable) clues.


Happy to offer hints if anyone's struggling.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on July 15, 2021, 09:04:40 pm
Very much liked this from this week's quiptic:

Hugo Boss announcing no neckwear for a decade (8)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on July 16, 2021, 09:45:31 am
Very much liked this from this week's quiptic:

Hugo Boss announcing no neckwear for a decade (8)

Good clue. Wanted it to be Noughties, but couldn’t quite make it work. Hugo Boss reference seems a bit niche though?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Duma on July 16, 2021, 10:00:37 am
Thought they were pretty famously German? (Nazi uniforms etc)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on July 16, 2021, 10:58:37 am
Thought they were pretty famously German? (Nazi uniforms etc)
To everyone, it seems, except me! And I thought it was just the Classics references I didn’t get in cryptic crosswords.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on July 16, 2021, 12:22:20 pm
I thought there should have been a “we hear” or something similar in there…? But then that wouldn’t work with the second half of the answer.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Will Hunt on July 16, 2021, 12:27:20 pm
I thought there should have been a “we hear” or something similar in there…? But then that wouldn’t work with the second half of the answer.

That would be "announcing".

Full disclosure: I'm still stuck with noughties.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on July 16, 2021, 02:02:53 pm
Full disclosure: I'm still stuck with noughties.
As in you want it to be Noughties? Or you can’t see how I got there?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Will Hunt on July 16, 2021, 02:24:43 pm
Full disclosure: I'm still stuck with noughties.
As in you want it to be Noughties? Or you can’t see how I got there?

The former. If Hugo Boss wasn't there it would just about work.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Ross Barker on July 16, 2021, 02:36:05 pm
If it's a crossword, shouldn't we know how long the word should be?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on July 16, 2021, 02:48:18 pm
I thought there should have been a “we hear” or something similar in there…? But then that wouldn’t work with the second half of the answer.

That would be "announcing".

Full disclosure: I'm still stuck with noughties.

But we hear or announcing still only works with the first half of the solution. It’s close to a lovely clue but doesn’t quite make it for me. (Could have changed neckwear to golf accessory??)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: nik at work on July 16, 2021, 02:50:37 pm
Or just consider neckwear as a separate element I suppose, but that doesn’t seem as neat to me.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on July 16, 2021, 02:55:24 pm
I thought there should have been a “we hear” or something similar in there…? But then that wouldn’t work with the second half of the answer.

That would be "announcing".

Full disclosure: I'm still stuck with noughties.

But we hear or announcing still only works with the first half of the solution. It’s close to a lovely clue but doesn’t quite make it for me. (Could have changed neckwear to golf accessory??)
You need to split the clue and it works fine.

1. Hugo Boss announcing no.
2. Neckwear.

“For a” is just the linking words, decade is the definition. As I said, good clue, just didn’t get the Hugo Boss reference.

Noughties is almost there, in that you have n for no, anagram of Hugo and then ties. So all the letters are kind of explainable, it’s just that the wordplay doesn’t work.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on July 16, 2021, 02:57:08 pm
One from yesterday’s Guardian that I’ve not quite finished yet :-

It’s viewed as what followed Labour’s Callaghan era (7)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: remus on July 16, 2021, 02:59:20 pm
If it's a crossword, shouldn't we know how long the word should be?

8 letters.

Duma's post was a bit cryptic because the forum turns

Code: [Select]
8)

in to 8)

so

Code: [Select]
(8)
turns in to (8)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Ross Barker on July 16, 2021, 03:04:48 pm
If it's Hugo Boss saying "no", as he's German wouldn't that be "nein", pronounced "nine", therefore giving us the decade "nineties"?
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: SA Chris on July 16, 2021, 05:13:49 pm
nice, but nineties are more than a decade ago.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: lukeyboy on July 16, 2021, 07:18:00 pm
nice, but nineties are more than a decade ago.

The nineties are a decade though, so fit the clue. I'm sure nineties is right.

Stuck on the Callaghan one though...
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on July 16, 2021, 08:23:49 pm
One from yesterday’s Guardian that I’ve not quite finished yet :-

It’s viewed as what followed Labour’s Callaghan era (7)

I'm pretty sure it's EXHIBIT, right?

Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: teestub on July 16, 2021, 08:47:34 pm
One from yesterday’s Guardian that I’ve not quite finished yet :-

It’s viewed as what followed Labour’s Callaghan era (7)

I'm pretty sure it's EXHIBIT, right?

I'm terrible at these, but can normally see the logic with the answer. I got the other one after the German hints, but you're going to have to talk me through this one!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tlr on July 17, 2021, 09:14:49 am
It’s not Exhibit.

Callaghan’s successor with another word for ‘era’ gives something that is looked at.
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: teestub on July 17, 2021, 09:28:05 am
A ha! Thank you
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Neil F on December 02, 2022, 09:43:40 pm
No idea what the premise of this thread was, as I’ve not read it, but hey….

A simply sublime clue from Tramp in a recent Guardian Prize:-

eg Elaine Paige initially off with Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber? (6,6,6)
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: Stabbsy on December 03, 2022, 05:46:15 pm
No idea what the premise of this thread was, as I’ve not read it, but hey….

A simply sublime clue from Tramp in a recent Guardian Prize:-

eg Elaine Paige initially off with Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber? (6,6,6)
Very neat!
Title: Re: Anyone like cryptic crosswords?
Post by: tommytwotone on December 05, 2022, 12:59:23 pm
Yeah, that one took be a good while to get my head around!
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