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the shizzle => bouldering => Topic started by: Monolith on February 21, 2008, 09:17:02 pm
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Finally got into this concept over the last week and it's been amazing. One at Pex and the other at Frodsham tonight. Are others out there getting involved? Conditions have been immense. A 15 quid lantern quickly pays for a few wall sessions eh. Come on, do it!
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I love the lantern sessions - Its the only way to go here in Summer when you can get a reasonable temperature after dark. A good lantern with a long tube extension putting the light at about shoulder height makes the job easier, coupled with a lighweight LED headtorch. 8)
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Feeling the LED combo. It's just so good when you're out with a good vibe and team knowing darkness is no obstacle.
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what you need is a reflective mirror box to go round the latern, no casting shadows
Its the way forward, the boys here the other week had some 50watt halogens attached to a small battery, worked a treat
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been thinking about doing this this week. Anyone got some good beta for laterns (ie make, model, where to buy etc...)
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Rich picked one up for 15 quid from Millett's. For an extra fiver, you can get one with an ignition button and carry case (I think was also included). Standard Colemans affair. I think the one with the ignition migth have been limited to using a fixed size of canister whereas the conventional model wasn't.
Neil, is the reflective mirror box a homemade joint or is that something that would be recognised if i tried to buy one in your standard army and navy shop?
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I don't where you can get them in England but I'd just get the biggest gas lantern head you can. I think my bottle size is 4.5kg which is pretty managable.
The extensions are great though and spread the light better- look like this:
(http://www.kangarootentcity.com.au/welcome/images/GasmateStoveonStandwithlantern.jpg)
Steak cooking apparatus is optional.
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Was frodsham dry this evening? Would of been keen to come down, its not far from mine at all at haven't been in ages
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That lantern stand looks quite nifty really.
I reckon the barbeque could be considered essential too...
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yeah looks good,
i guess it gets very cold at night too?
good for conditions i guess!
we are planning one soon (northumberlandddddd), but its a bit of a who will we piss off if we do it?
i mean bowden would be alright i think, and a nice kyloe night session would be alright,
shaftoe? might annoy the farmer or the row of houses.
anyone tried it up here?
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Jim-Breck and Frodsham was bone dry and friction ace. Have designs on next week if you're keen.
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Hi Guys,
Glad to hear your getting out mono, hows all the injuries?
As regards the lanterns!!
I bought 2 for under £4 from No Frills DIY (one in sheff) and they run off parafin. Put some silver foil round the back of them it does the same job as a mirror.
Hope you all enjoy your eve bouldering
T
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It's been very good! The Breck hasn't been chanced by lamplight as of yet, probably not a wise idea, but Pex and Frodsham have been in great condition. I'm looking forward to having a few rest days before next weeks lamplighting begins.
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Up here, when you have to contend with the Berghaus Wall in Newcastle, we spend a lot of evenings up at the Woods in the dark...
http://www.malhamba.com/photos/added/europe/uk/northumberland/kyloe_in_the_woods/136#pageHeader
Apart from the odd experiment with parafin, we found that those high powered bike lights (rechargeable ones) plus a headtorch each works fine. It helps when you already sort of know the problems, but all my best ticks there have been at night time.
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Glad to hear your getting out mono, hows all the injuries?
Not bad ta. Nice when you can't remember the last injury you sustained anyway.
Ged - Kyloe by night looks an incredible place, nice photo.
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my mate once swore he saw a pair of red eyes peering out at him from the Crack Of Gloom. Riddled with Witches and Goblins that place, but a pretty brilliant winter training venue.
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Loving the lantern idea, have previously played out at Almscliff & Caley with just headtorches and always needed at least one extra to mark the LZ. And it always feels highball in the dark.
Off to the camping store at the weekend...
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Theres a thriving lantern scene up here too.
I picked up a rechargeable 6volt jobby in B&Q for a tenner. Car charger included which is handy. Its got a remote control too which isnt..
This is from a session last week at the Scatwell boulder near Inverness.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/2263820752_7b681b1f8c.jpg)
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my mate once swore he saw a pair of red eyes peering out at him from the Crack Of Gloom. Riddled with Witches and Goblins that place, but a pretty brilliant winter training venue.
ged? who was at bowden a few weeks ago? transformer left hand?
if so give me a bell next time you go up at night.
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seemed a popular concept in Squamish too - with people cranking out hard stuff well into the night (think the best managed whilst i was there was about 6 lanterns on the go at the same boulder...)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1138/1427953515_3adc48b6b7.jpg)
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Loving the pics! :thumbsup:
Surely they're all in the wrong thread though. Sure there's some lanterns in 'em, but they should be in the Qulaity bouldering piccies thread for sure!
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, we found that those high powered bike lights (rechargeable ones) plus a headtorch each works fine.
I've got some bike lights, might give them a try. Any tips for mounting? Best I can think of is use my camera tripod.
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i'm gonna try out my bike lights...
720 lumens!!! - not far off most car headlights!!
was just gonna gaffer tape onto a tripod... my lights are LED (www.exposurelights.com) so dont get hot.. HIDs will get too hot as they're designed to burn on a moving bike. The really powerful bike lights are too expensive for the odd bouldering jaunt.. but if you've get em i reckon they'll be great!
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Heres a couple of nice lantern shots from a while back:
Simon Sirrotti on Dentalectomy V4
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/108/366219408_ba6cd2e581.jpg?v=0)
Matt Adams sticking the dyno on Penis Cling V8 (as seen on the Frequent Flyers vid)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/380971793_0c4b2c4ea1.jpg?v=0)
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This thread has inspired me to try a bit of after dark bouldering sometime soon.
Did a quick search on youtube for "night bouldering" and came up with a few results.
Liked this from lebrof (and a couple of others from them)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqaoj4NEQ2E
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Seem to remember there was some evening action on http.bloc from a few years back (by car headlights if I remember?).
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I have acquired one of these bad boys from Castle Market in Sheff for a tenner.
(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/large/01/010813005.jpg)
No charger and no lead from battery to lamp, but easy to make replacements/substitutes. Hope it works.
I like both gadgets and bargins ;D
I'll let you know how I get on...
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That looks a winner and potential bargain as you say. Would be keen for one if feedback is positive.
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Machine Mart sell them for £35 (new and with all leads), which would still be good value if it does the job. Allegedly up to 5 hrs of light from a 20w fluorescent tube type bulb (similar to energy savers). I suspect that it won't charge up very quickly. Pretty hefty affair - the front of the lamp is about 9 inches in diameter and feels like it weighs 3 or 4 kilos (nice metric/imperial mix from my brain there).
Phoned Machine Mart to ask for details/specs. They also reccommended this
(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/large/01/010810218.jpg)
for £28 which has two 24inch, 18w tubes and provides 90 mins of light with both tubes or 3 hours with one on a full charge. Looks like it might fit into a crash pad better than my new toy - shadows might be less harsh too?
MM have got back to me about charging my beast. 16 hours to full charge and no electronic shut off when it is charged - but ok to leave charging for up to 48 hours. Not great, but ok I guess.
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Some more here (http://www.knighton-tools.co.uk/acatalog/Fluorescent_Lighting.html)
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Been experimenting with lighting systems over the years. Basically, avoid cheap battery powered things. I've got one like Lagerstarfish's yellow monster and while it gives a decent amount of light, it doesn't last very long. And it takes ages to charge again. I've also tried several other battery powered things and they either don't last long enough (90min is not great, by the time you've warmed up you've only got an hour to play - it'll probably die just as you think you are going to do your problem) or are not bright enough (eg. the battery lantern type things).
Polish Dave has a couple of those tube things, which last a while, but they still are not as bright as a lantern. I got a lantern not so long ago, and it's great. Twin mantle, ignition switch. Don't know how long the canister lasts but I've had several sessions with it so far, each a few hours long and it's still going. Also the ignition switch means you can easily turn it off between goes if you are resting between attempts. It's much brighter than the tube things and cheap battery things too - lights up a whole boulder, no problem. Still wise to use headtorches and other lights so you don't get too many shadows though. Portablility isn't a big issue - I just carry it by the handle, usually I use it instead of a headtorch. But I have stuffed it inside my mat before, with all my other stuff.
There is one other steup which eclipses the lantern for brightness. A bicycle light attached to a seperate battery (cyclists will know what I mean). It's super bright - and more portable than anything else. The batteries last for a whole session, then can be recharged. Apparently the batteries cost lots (you know, the ones shaped like a small thermos), but you could probably pick up something a bit bulkier and cheaper at maplins - it would still be easy enough to carry.
Good photo taken by a friend of mine from last week's session:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=81223
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i'm gonna try out my bike lights...
720 lumens!!! - not far off most car headlights!!
was just gonna gaffer tape onto a tripod... my lights are LED (www.exposurelights.com) so dont get hot.. HIDs will get too hot as they're designed to burn on a moving bike. The really powerful bike lights are too expensive for the odd bouldering jaunt.. but if you've get em i reckon they'll be great!
960 lumens for the new Hope 4 LED's !
Soon as they actually land in a shop I'll be having some I reckon
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Took the Yellow Monster out last night.
Managed to capture a few easy problems with my rather basic camera on its normal auto setting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGf7Rsesslk
Really enjoyed being able to stay out longer :thumbsup:
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Nice one on getting out. The piece of music that accompanied that footage is probably the most bizarre piece of music I think I've ever heard. Sounded like Jean Michel Jarre had a jam with Mouse on Mars on acid in a time machine. Was this the case and if not who was the artist lager?
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Anyone know what these are like, thinking of buying one.
http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/lumostar-m270-piezo-3227289/ (http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/lumostar-m270-piezo-3227289/)
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The piece of music that accompanied that footage is probably the most bizarre piece of music I think I've ever heard. Sounded like Jean Michel Jarre had a jam with Mouse on Mars on acid in a time machine. Was this the case and if not who was the artist lager?
Jean Michel Jarre had a jam with Mouse on Mars on acid in a time machine and emailed it to me.
Actually, its computer generated using Sony Cinescore with minimal input from me - so totally royalty free - feel free to rip it to CD. Can do you a whole album if you like. I am the new John Cage ;)
My other composition tool is to use the music gen function on MS Photostory (free). It rocks/sucks/blows etc.
The Yellow Monster had about 4-5 hours of charging from flat and gave me 70 mins climbing before I had to go to parents evening at Lager Jr's school. I then left it on at home and got another hour and a half out of it. I guess that with the full 16 hours charge it really could give 5 hours of use. Good enough light for me to climb by. I have a fear of being in charge of lamps run by real fire in a national park, so will stick to this beast. Didn't feel the need to wear a head torch, but can see that in many circumstances it would help. I used to use gas and paraffin mantel lamps to go fishing and remember them as being brighter than this thing. I actually missed the freindly hiss of a gas/paraffin lamp, but the silence+light+outdoors did make for a nice surreal experience on my own.
According to the manufacturer (Clarke) the lamp is supposed to come with a 4m lead so that the lamp can be moved away from the battery. I don't have this due to my buying it 2nd hand, but can see that this would be handy if one were to use a pole/tripod to put the lamp at a good hight off the ground. The lamp stays cool during use. It took a while (15 secs) for the fl tube to light when I got it home - probably because it had got cold in the boot of my car - I know these bulbs don't like the cold so that may cause it to not light at all if it gets really cold. I'll do more tests.
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I forgot to say that the Yellow Monster spreads its beam over what I guess to be about 1500. Nice wide coverage compared to spot or search lamps. What with the inverse square law and all that, putting the light closer to the rock and still getting coverage must be a good thing, non?
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Non. putting a wide spreading lamp closer to the rock will result in an area of light which is intense at the centre and becomes weaker towards the edges (as per laws of fisiks etc). A more focussed beam would mean that the lamp was further away for the same coverage, but the circle of light hitting the rock was of a more consistant intensity. Probably
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Non. putting a wide spreading lamp closer to the rock will result in an area of light which is intense at the centre and becomes weaker towards the edges (as per laws of fisiks etc). A more focussed beam would mean that the lamp was further away for the same coverage, but the circle of light hitting the rock was of a more consistant intensity. Probably
You love all this science stuff don't you? *things going straight over my head smiley*
I can concur that the knocked off second hand Yellow Beast is most effective and a proper bargain.
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I investigated buying a camping lantern for use at the crag and was mighty confused by all the light output systems being used. Apparently the term 'lumens' refers to the output of luminous flux produced by a given lamp. The term 'lux' refers to the illuminance produced over a given area - this will vary according to how big an area the lamp is used to illuminate. However, I can't quite see where watts comes in. I googled this information page which may be of interest http://www.brillianz.co.uk/data/documents/Lumen.pdf
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The piece of music that accompanied that footage is probably the most bizarre piece of music I think I've ever heard. Sounded like Jean Michel Jarre had a jam with Mouse on Mars on acid in a time machine. Was this the case and if not who was the artist lager?
Jean Michel Jarre had a jam with Mouse on Mars on acid in a time machine and emailed it to me.
Actually, its computer generated using Sony Cinescore with minimal input from me - so totally royalty free - feel free to rip it to CD. Can do you a whole album if you like. I am the new John Cage ;)
So that's what it'll sound like when Computer's supercede humans! Wow.
Had a lovely session last night. I'd show you footage only it's of failure and more failure. I really dig that shot of Squamish by night from earlier on in the thread, not sure why but it psyches me up big time to go there.
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Had a lamp lighting session at frodsham ( mostly on hoopla ) with the mad dog donnoly on tuesday. Totaly sold by this concept now!!! Conditions where great. The future is upon us!!!
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with the mad dog donnelly on tuesday.
That'll be because Matt turns up so bloody late that lamps are necessary just to get some climbing in. Remember that time you and him arrived at the Pass just after four pm last year? Met us as we were walking back to the cars to drive back to Liverpool.
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HAHA!!! your half rite on that one mate!
Still nearly did retro party that day after a skin full of booze ( which you know i rarely divulge in )
When are you goin to join in the festivities???
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When I have two working shoulders.
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after a skin full of booze ( which you know i rarely divulge in )
To divulge in booze! I like it. The perfect description for this perhaps...........
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8576.0.html
:)
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good shout Jasper!!! although turning up at the crag still pissed after a two hour drive kinda feels like :wall:
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To divulge in booze = in vino veritas ?
More to the point, Meatball, what is the secret to being able to not divulge whilst in booze? Can you tell Houdini, ta. :alky: ;)
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I've no idea what you want from me. All I know is that a bottle of frog red and spic rioja will evolve into a 3 hour sesh at the pool tomorrow. It would appear that I'm impervious to all drugs. I can take 1.5L 13% red and run a half marathon the morn. What do you want from me? An admission of addictive personality. N' shit!
:whistle:
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I want you to be my audience when some do-gooder comes up to me and asks why I am wandering around the Peak District with a BIG YELLOW LAMP; causing me to launch into a Zarathustra style rant about looking for God and not finding him. After this has happened, I will wait around for Godot and his enormous crashpad.
This bug dust produces a very Literal high...
Sorry Houdi, shouldn't have implied that I want you to refrain from intoxicating divulgance; not the case at all - you write far, far more sense than most of the intoxicates I listen to - please carry on (and not just when intoxicated), :thumbsup:
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Relax man; I'm not uptight, merely drunk...
On the up-side, at least we are man enough to admit our small-time addictions; don't conceal them under the "power lunch"/tasting session; rant/rave w/ the best/worst of them. Chin chin!
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To add something to this thread.
One time it was I, The Ginger Prince, Reeves, Ug, some film maker and Shamra...
It was Val di Mello, years ago @ the best line I've ever seen; better that Il Migliore Fabbro, New Slatesman, New Statesman...
Just some F7B+/7C arete, no holds, no footholds: just an arete. And Shamra full o' bottle Chianti bustin' the moves on an intense hi-highball line he'd repeatedly failed on when sober. Pure scary seat-of-pants inspiration: respect. The Witching Hour, by headtorch. Now you understand why... Pure madness...
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the trick to chillin on the booze is to smoke more green 8). Simple as that really!!!
I often find if i'm pissed at a problem the best thing to do is to ' chill ', then CRUSH
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That post explains the earlier ones. ;)
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explain yourself
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Addled brain from weed = "divulge in booze!!" etc
It was just a poor attempt at humour really. As per. :)
Lagers - most forecasts are saying Thursday will be the first good day this week but I'm still holding out hope that Wednesday will be ok. Will The Yellow Beast be making an appearance if so?
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Lagers - most forecasts are saying Thursday will be the first good day this week but I'm still holding out hope that Wednesday will be ok. Will The Yellow Beast be making an appearance if so?
Yes.
The Yellow Monster now has a name. And the name of the beast is "Zarathustra".
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ah now i get it!!
didnt have my mornin fix
fancy a :beer1:
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Just four more posts Meatball, then you can wad/punter us to your hearts content...
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the only person on my shit list is fatneck at present...
make that 3
Have you pissed me off recently Ben? ;)
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Only shot you in the back of the head with a paintball gun at point blank range. Other than that, I think we get on alright.
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agreed
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Some fat punter looking at the finish to a shit problem in some dank hole on the Orme... ;)
(http://photos-064.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v217/175/63/620130064/n620130064_2494122_8053.jpg)
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Some wrong link to a photo of someone looking at the finish to a shit problem in some dank hole on the Orme... ;)
(http://photos-064.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v217/175/63/620130064/n620130064_2494122_8053.jpg)
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Some fat punter looking at the finish to a shit problem in some dank hole on the Orme... ;)
1. Wait until you have 5.1% body fat before calling someone a fat punter.
2. He's not staring at the finish, he's lovingly gazing at the kneebar placement.
3.It's bone dry unlike the grit you've been wanting to climb on.
4. You spelt Orme right and that's about all that's correct in your post.
5. I do still like you just about.
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3.It's bone dry unlike the grit you've been wanting to climb on.
Oh how little you know... ::) ;)
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1. Wait until you have 5.1% body fat before calling someone a fat punter.
2. He's not staring at the finish, he's lovingly gazing at the kneebar placement.
3.It's bone dry unlike the grit you've been wanting to climb on.
4. You spelt Orme right and that's about all that's correct in your post.
5. I do still like you just about.
You're so easy to wind up Tom! Did you not see the ironic winking smiley?
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(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii130/thomascmills/90_120_zombie.jpg)
You've made 3 glaring errors....
1. I'm not easy to wind up.
2. Nothing is ironic in context of the cave.
3. These fingertip screws are quite good for making a point actually.
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Ok;
1. Rich is not a fat punter (although having a B.M.I. of 5.1% can't be that good for you?)
2. You are easy to wind up.
3. Anything can be ironic.
4. I do actually like you too :kiss1:
5. It's because I'm weak that I don't like the Cave.
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3. Anything can be ironic.
And who are you? Jacques fucking Derrida? ;)
Enough. Don't you have any stunning Pantymwyn by night shots to post. You'd think so after acting like David Bailey last night!
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(http://photos-064.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v217/175/63/620130064/n620130064_2494122_8053.jpg)
Does that t-shirt say "4A" on the back? I need something like that!
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(http://photos-064.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v217/175/63/620130064/n620130064_2494122_8053.jpg)
Does that t-shirt say "4A" on the back? I need something like that!
yeah 4a is what we're gonna downgrade rockatrocity to when monolith does it
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I'd be happy to take Den 5 to be honest!
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I'd be happy to take Den 5 to be honest!
don't be ridiculous mate its at least 5+!
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Come on!!!!!
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one of Andy B on (and under, and on top of) his old nemesis (no more!):
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d175/beardownproductions/John/climbing/MarksLH_JC.jpg?t=1205352011)
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Nice pic - You need to get yourself some slave strobes for the night shots - Makes a world of difference.
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thanks man. that shot is a single slave, with a long exposure.
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Heres a couple I took with someone elses gear (I'm learning and can't afford my own yet) - Not great but a start. Lighting caves in the dark is a nightmare!
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/375865886_0e7d9c4370.jpg?v=0)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/62/375865890_9df2e1087d.jpg?v=0)
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3.It's bone dry unlike the grit you've been wanting to climb on.
Bone dry and grippy as fuck at Curbar yesterday. Unfortunately it was also blowing a freezing gale that rendered climbing anything difficult impossible. And then it started hailing. I'd still rather have been there than in a manky cave mind. ;)
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Manky cave? Didn't know there were any caves in Manchester. Any beta on them?
And Jasper, I can't believe you're shunning the cave. Is a man of your esteem not keen to get involved? 1,2,3, everybody lube and flex now.
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Went when I was strong and wasn't keen. There is much less appeal now I'm weak!
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Plenty of head torches
(http://www.8a.nu/images/gallery/20008_633426868407343750.jpg)
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Plenty of head torches
(http://www.8a.nu/images/gallery/20008_633426868407343750.jpg)
I wonder why :-\
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I assume that there is a similar group of attentive men spotting her as well - would have made an amusing photo if they were in as well - she's probably thinking "go away and leave me to climb in peace" or something?
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It wont be long before our evenings are returned to the darkness from whence they came. So I have begun thinking of how to light up my winter projects. Earlier this year in the dark months I met 2 guys at the terrace area with something similar to this;
http://www.dewalt.co.uk/powertools/productdetails/catno/DC022/ (http://www.dewalt.co.uk/powertools/productdetails/catno/DC022/)
http://nextdaytools.com/product_view.cfm?prod_id=89&ndt_subcat_id=98&selected_ndt_subcat_id=98&ndt_cat_id=5&selected_ndt_cat_id=5&gclid=CKvN_cmzupUCFQ-mQwodB1QeQg (http://nextdaytools.com/product_view.cfm?prod_id=89&ndt_subcat_id=98&selected_ndt_subcat_id=98&ndt_cat_id=5&selected_ndt_cat_id=5&gclid=CKvN_cmzupUCFQ-mQwodB1QeQg)
they were on jasons roofy thing whilst I was on the terrace, the TOOL was so bright I turned off my lantern. Does anyone have anymore knowledge on these beastly lights before I go buy myself one? 8)
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Earlier this year in the dark months I met 2 guys at the terrace area with something similar to this;
http://www.dewalt.co.uk/powertools/productdetails/catno/DC022/ (http://www.dewalt.co.uk/powertools/productdetails/catno/DC022/)
That was me and Kanye. We've got two of them now.
You need to get the biggest batteries that you can afford for it. We've used the standard DeWalt size, but they get eaten very quickly (about an hour or so), and so Kanye got some 18V batteries that seem to fair much better alowing a reasonable evening session before dying, but I think you can also get 24V batteries which I would go for if you can afford them as you shouldn't then have to carry spares, and won't need to be so sparing with the use of the light. You'll still need a small headtorch to light the shadow caused by your body, but we are hoping that with two we won't even need that anymore.
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Thankyou Andy,
the site says it runs on 12-18v batteries, do you know if the 24 volts are compatible?
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I think so, but I'm not 100% sure. I'll ask when I see my mate. 12V must be the standard batteries we started with, and I certainly wouldn't recommend them, but the 18V are fine if you have doubts about the 24V.
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Thanks again, I might just be cheap and track you guys down and climb, the entire crag will be lit up if you have 2 of those beats.
(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/4451/stanagedu0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/stanagedu0.jpg/1/w800.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img390/stanagedu0.jpg/1/)
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Don't you want batteries with more amp hours rather than a higher voltage? In most appliances a higher voltage would increase the power (brightness) rather than the duration of function. If two battery packs are the same size the one with higher voltage will usually run down quicker as it is using the same amount of energy but at a faster rate. :-\
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Don't you want batteries with more amp hours rather than a higher voltage? In most appliances a higher voltage would increase the power (brightness) rather than the duration of function. If two battery packs are the same size the one with higher voltage will usually run down quicker as it is using the same amount of energy but at a faster rate. :-\
I don't know the SCIENCE of it, but I do know that our 12V batteries are bright for ~1 hour then die suddenly , but our 18V batteries are bright (but no brighter) for up to ~3 hours then die suddenly. Perhaps Dewalt have dumbed down their battery descriptions.
Actually it's worth knowing that these DeWalt lights don't fade when they run down, they just cut out in an instant, so it's always worth having a headtorch with you to be able to walk out again with light once the big light dies.
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As these are fluorescent lights they need a minimum voltage to light at all, so won't fade when the voltage drops. Similarly they won't get brighter if you increase the voltage. They could be very clever and last longer with higher voltage, but it would be quite sophisticated electronics to do it. More likely your 18v batteries might be much newer and/or have a higher Amp/hour rating than your 12v ones. I doubt they would work with 24v as DeWalt 24v has a different fitting. You can get up to 2.4ah 18v ones but these are quite pricey. It would be interesting to know if new 12v 2.4ah ones lasted as long as new 18v 2.4ah ones. My guess is they probably would.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/PowerTools/DewaltBatteries/d40/sd2789 (http://www.toolstation.com/shop/PowerTools/DewaltBatteries/d40/sd2789)
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I see, good knowledge. I didn't know you could buy batteries with different amp hours.
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It would be interesting to know if new 12v 2.4ah ones lasted as long as new 18v 2.4ah ones. My guess is they probably would.
Before someone else correct my physics, thought I'd brush up quickly and correct myself... :-[
The lamp is 38watts. If it is constant brightness on both 12v and 18v then we assume it is constant wattage (power)
At 18v, to generate 38watts power uses 2.1 amps (according to which a 2.4 amp/hour 18v battery should last 1.14hours)
At 12v, to generate 38watts power uses 3.16 amps (according to which a 2.4 amp/hour 12v battery should last 0.76hours)
So the higher voltage battery should last longer even if they are the same amp/hour rating . Either way it sounds like a good light as you are getting much longer use than my calculations predict!
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Don't fluorescents require less power once they've been started? You can keep them going just in an EM field once they're on, supposedly. Some artist made good use of this, would google but I have to go and churn the IRATA sausage machine.
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http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/exclusive/2004/pylon_ambience/index.html (http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/exclusive/2004/pylon_ambience/index.html)
Apparently so. Just seems you need a crag with electricity pylons running overhead ;)
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Don't fluorescents require less power once they've been started? You can keep them going just in an EM field once they're on, supposedly. Some artist made good use of this, would google but I have to go and churn the IRATA sausage machine.
Bloody sausages! I've had an endless stream of them calling me this week.
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http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/exclusive/2004/pylon_ambience/index.html (http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/exclusive/2004/pylon_ambience/index.html)
Apparently so. Just seems you need a crag with electricity pylons running overhead ;)
Wharncliffe
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Bloody sausages! I've had an endless stream of them calling me this week.
Hah! Whenever they want work I just send them on to you. Can't you rustle something up with all those chanterelles?
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http://www.screwfix.com/prods/34887/Lighting/Torches-Task-Lighting/Torches/Million-Candle-Rechargeable-Spotlight-5M (http://www.screwfix.com/prods/34887/Lighting/Torches-Task-Lighting/Torches/Million-Candle-Rechargeable-Spotlight-5M)
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Probably has a short battery life, and probably doesn't stay super bright for long. Have used a few similiar. But for a short session I'm sure it's fine.
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Its a spotlight. If you wanted to try WSS you'd need the torch holder to be at remergence.
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At least, it's called a spotlight.
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Yeh but its £15 not a few hundred like the ones recommended so far!
Of course its prob not gonna illuminate the whole crag, and its prob only gonna last an hour or two, but it serves a purpose.
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My dad has a similar one which wasn't even that much. It would be useless for climbing, the beam is about 1 degree wide. Spend 30 quid on a camping lantern instead.
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You can pick up lots of things between £10 and £20 but they are generally a bit disappointing - low battery life, long charging time, gradually fading light etc. Get a proper lantern, much much better, and around the same price. I tried saying this last winter:
I got a lantern not so long ago, and it's great. Twin mantle, ignition switch. Don't know how long the canister lasts but I've had several sessions with it so far, each a few hours long and it's still going. Also the ignition switch means you can easily turn it off between goes if you are resting between attempts. It's much brighter than the tube things and cheap battery things too - lights up a whole boulder, no problem. Still wise to use headtorches and other lights so you don't get too many shadows though. Portablility isn't a big issue - I just carry it by the handle, usually I use it instead of a headtorch. But I have stuffed it inside my mat before, with all my other stuff.
This is £35 for instance. A bit more expensive than a cheap battery light, but still quite affordable:
http://www.wildday.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?id=6858&AID=10435523&PID=2187177&SID=Mg05Gz8v3daEETmCDkiiiTHCFKqtnnbE (http://www.wildday.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?id=6858&AID=10435523&PID=2187177&SID=Mg05Gz8v3daEETmCDkiiiTHCFKqtnnbE)
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You can pick up lots of things between £10 and £20 but they are generally a bit disappointing - low battery life, long charging time, gradually fading light etc. Get a proper lantern, much much better, and around the same price. I tried saying this last winter:
Word to that bro. I bought a low quality piece of junk from B and Q for about 20 quid and took it to Minus 10 in light drizzle. There was an hour of daylight left and I switched on the lamp as it was getting dark. The lamp was in the rain although I was climbing in the dry. Although initially amanzingly bright, within half an hour the damn thing had dimmed to an extremely faint glow which failed to illuminate the rock whatsoever. It then went out completely - water had flooded into the bulb. It never worked again :boohoo:
This winter I may invest in some heavy duty shizzle referred to above. No messing around this time around :great:
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Yeh but its £15 not a few hundred like the ones recommended so far!
Of course its prob not gonna illuminate the whole crag, and its prob only gonna last an hour or two, but it serves a purpose.
I use a maglite and a head torch it does the job fine. Floodlights seem good but there not needed really, especially at a couple of hundred notes without batteries.
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This isnt bad, you can focus the beam and charge it thro the mains (takes 14 hours for full charge tho) says it lasts 4hours without dimming... Still nearly 100 notes tho!
http://www.yorksurvey.co.uk/tools/torches/713/x-cell-4h-rechargeable-lamp.html (http://www.yorksurvey.co.uk/tools/torches/713/x-cell-4h-rechargeable-lamp.html)
Sod it, im buying one of those lanters.... but with the price of petrol going up like it is the damn thing will cost a fortune to run! I wonder if it runs off of chip fat :-\
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Something like this looks like a reasonable compromise for £35:
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/rwl12-12v-rechargeable-fluorescent-lig (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/rwl12-12v-rechargeable-fluorescent-lig)
(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/large/01/010813005.jpg)
Doesn't mention it on the website but the catalogue recons it's good for 5hrs
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Something like this looks like a reasonable compromise for £35:
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/rwl12-12v-rechargeable-fluorescent-lig (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/rwl12-12v-rechargeable-fluorescent-lig)
(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/large/01/010813005.jpg)
Doesn't mention it on the website but the catalogue recons it's good for 5hrs
Looks similar to the one Lagers picked up. Check further back in the thread for details, he seemed to rate it.
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still rate it :thumbsup:
see video (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8731.msg137034.html#msg137034)
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whats the battery life on that beast like largers?
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Good for 2 or 3 hours usually. Never run out of juice at the crag.
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Not sure what the normal going rate for the UKB approved Dewalt lantern is these days, but I just found this site (http://www.toolstop.co.uk/site-lighting-b115) while looking. I was also interested to hear if anyone has seen one of these before
(http://images.toolstop.co.uk/product/resized/548024f458321d6dce8432daeca4c630.jpg) (http://www.toolstop.co.uk/dewalt-dc020-backward-compatible-nano-area-light-non-charging-p11308)
Looks like the favourite:
(http://images.toolstop.co.uk/product/110x110/02eb2e71cb5d07d6dc09261ab1616877.jpg)
but more compact.
Oh, and they have the biggie in 110v, and 240v versions. What's the difference (in real use terms)?
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Hey, over in the equipment section I asked a fair few questions about these. The light will be the same from the 110 and 240 just you will need a 110V supply. (The big yellow 3 pin thing)
I went for the bigger of the two lights in the end just because it saved buying a separate battery charger. Its not too much of a pain to lug around and is very stable on the floor.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DEWALT-DC022-AREA-LIGHT-110v-DOUBLE-CHARGER-7-2-18v-/390194580252?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item5ad968cb1c (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DEWALT-DC022-AREA-LIGHT-110v-DOUBLE-CHARGER-7-2-18v-/390194580252?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item5ad968cb1c)
That's the one I picked up.
None of them come with batteries through and they aren't cheap if you don't already have them from drills or what ever!
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at last nights session we had both a Dewalt and my Clarke
the Dewalt is loads brighter, but the Clarke is light enough to hang of the top of tripod/light stand
the compination was very good
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As of Saturday night there will be a big bright lantern in the sky for an extra hour!
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Something like this looks like a reasonable compromise for £35:
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/rwl12-12v-rechargeable-fluorescent-lig (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/rwl12-12v-rechargeable-fluorescent-lig)
(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/large/01/010813005.jpg)
Doesn't mention it on the website but the catalogue recons it's good for 5hrs
Looks similar to the one Lagers picked up. Check further back in the thread for details, he seemed to rate it.
I have this exact one and mine is perfect, newman got one aswell but his broke in the matter of days.
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Is there any advance on the clark one below as a budget option for a couple of evenings of dicking about on small boulders? The prospect of indoor sessions only in the evenings for the next few months just fills me with dread, so I think I need to get with the lighting shizzle.
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As far as I can see that's the one we've been trialling - found it to be good from a brightness point of view. Does take a little while to warm up though so I'd recommend turning it on a little while before you actually want to use it.
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Sounds good, gone up a bit in price since the £35 mentioned tho'
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another budget option is to use one of these flood lights with energy saving bulb
http://www.amazon.co.uk/20W-R7s-Floodlight-Energy-Saving/dp/B003SCJO8G/ref=sr_1_4?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1317893117&sr=1-4 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/20W-R7s-Floodlight-Energy-Saving/dp/B003SCJO8G/ref=sr_1_4?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1317893117&sr=1-4)
along with a 12v car starter/power suply thingy and an 12Vdc/240Vac inverter - if you already have them, otherwise it'll cost
the floods are light enough to mount on a camera tripod
I already had the light, starter thing and and inverter. I wanted an energy saving bulb for it anyway. I put them all together out of pure curiosity at first
Works fine - had it on for 90 mins constantly as a test
I use the switch on the inverter to turn it off/on
only used it for night car fixing and gardening so far, but am confident that it'll be fine for bouldering
same wattage as the Clarke
like this, but all connected
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516I6NePMPL._AA115_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41SW4xn-iOL._SL500_SS75_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31HSwko8foL._AA115_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41p955pMFYL._AA115_.jpg)
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Good arrows Lagers, I might get one of those as a replacement for my rusting security light (that I wince at its 500w every time it comes on..) Plus the slight warm up on the energy saving bulb will give cats/squirrels/burglars the chance to escape the dazzling beam...
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bulbs are about a tenner from Maplin - these sort fit most floods, some don't
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:o Come on peeps! So much for keeping a low profile whilst out night climbing. A head torch and a small gas lantern is perfectly sufficient. Even a head torch on your head and a head torch on your mates head pointing towards the next holds is enough. Some of the floodlights listed above seem a little over the top IMHO.
Might be worth reading this http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,18531.msg329557.html#msg329557 (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,18531.msg329557.html#msg329557) thread..
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I think everyone has read it. I'll use as much light as I need, but where I go bouldering you could have 50 folk, overhead floodlights and a bouncy castle and it wouldn't bother anything or anyone. Except maybe confuse some crustaceans.
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Some of the floodlights listed above seem a little over the top IMHO.
they're a lot less bright with a 20W energy saver in than they are with the original 500W halogens
they can easily be shaded - not too hot, so putting a shoud/cowl over is OK
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Some of the floodlights listed above seem a little over the top IMHO.
they're a lot less bright with a 20W energy saver in than they are with the original 500W halogens
they can easily be shaded - not too hot, so putting a shoud/cowl over is OK
Yeah 20W seems a lot more sensible than the original 500W and my comments weren't necessarily pointed in your direction Lagers. I guess my point is that, once your eyes have adjusted to the darkness, you don't need excessive amounts of light. A good night session can be had with minimal equipment, it's even been know for folk to use their mobile phone light eh Chris?
I think everyone has read it. I'll use as much light as I need, but where I go bouldering you could have 50 folk, overhead floodlights and a bouncy castle and it wouldn't bother anything or anyone. Except maybe confuse some crustaceans.
Sounds like fun Chris.. I think people need to be appropriate to where they boulder though. Sorry for being :yawn:
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Imagine trying to get in to Clashfarquhar in the dark for a night session! It'd be deadly!
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bulbs are about a tenner from Maplin - these sort fit most floods, some don't
Daffodil?
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Imagine trying to get in to Clashfarquhar in the dark for a night session! It'd be deadly!
Death upon death. Actually had a session on that small wall we were on there before rain stopped play. Did that sloper eliminate from standing, but couldn't do sitter. Sadly though, lichen is creeping in, might have to wait for spring.
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Here's some shit photos of the set up we'll be using in the cave this winter in action.
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/298872_10150322852931919_719686918_8065020_1583589813_n.jpg)
The view from outside the cave...
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/299180_10150322843621919_719686918_8064980_1949237859_n.jpg)
Sorry I can't give any tech spec but the lights are running off a car battery and they're amazing.
All my failure excuses relating to poor light are out the window...
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I recently got meself one of these....
(http://www.nightsearcher.co.uk/DesktopModules/PropertyAgent/ImageHandler.ashx?width=196&height=200&HomeDirectory=/Portals/0//PropertyAgent/381/Images&fileName=420.jpg&portalid=0&i=420&Q=True)
Machine Mart have them in for £64.
Had a session earlier this week and was impressed. I also have one of the Clarke jobbies which is currently broken (all my own doing), so I can't really compare the two at the moment.
When I get the Clarke back up and running I will see how they match up. Having both lamps available is obviously the plan. Like Chris I'm unlikely to bother anyone where I tend to boulder.
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With the nights drawing in I went looking for a lantern, I've found what I reckon is the new people's champion - the Nightsearcher Workstar (http://www.nightsearcher.co.uk/Products/tabid/55/agentType/View/PropertyID/151/Default.aspx):
(http://www.nightsearcher.co.uk/Portals/0/PropertyAgent/381/Images/798.jpg)
Took it out for a test-run at the Tor last night, one light will happily light the entire of Weedkiller traverse, I wore a headtorch as well but it wasn't really necessary. Had it on for about 1 1/2 hours without any real noticeable fall in light output. Wanted to show some test video but foolishly took a full memory card, for anyone who cares about camera stuff I was getting enough light for 1/50 shutter at f2.5 and ISO 1600 so easily enough for night video.
Has 2200 lumen high mode with 3 hours battery life & 1000 lumen mode with 7 hours battery. Also has a USB port for charging phones etc. and can be charged from mains or a car (both chargers included, has charging LEDs and shuts off when done). Seems pretty well-built, allegedly shower-proof too but not tested that yet. LEDs are rated for 50000 hours or something daft like that and it has an internal Li-On battery so no bulbs to change or faffing with batteries.
Overall I'm very impressed, got mine for £60 from Toolstation (http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Lighting/Site+Lights/Nightsearcher+Workstar+LED+Floodlight+Rechargeable/d220/sd2480/p45540) though they're currently out of stock.
Will try and post back with a sample video next time I take it out.
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Is it that time of year already?
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Is it that time of year already?
no. clearly.
looks like a bargain though...
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Essential for the next lantern session. Or reaching for the lasers!
safe as fuck (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-FINGER-LED-LASER-TORCH-LIGHT-BEAMS-KIDS-CHILDRENS-PARTY-BAG-STOCKING-FILLERS-/151181243871?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Make_Up_Cosmetics_Lip_Gloss_PP&hash=item23331ab5df#ht_1084wt_1171)
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my yellow monster finally died and no amount of bulb changing and wire jiggling could bring it back to life
so today I went crazy and spent a dozen Fuck Alls on one of these
http://www.screwfix.com/p/ae0183-rechargeable-led-work-light-10w-12-240v/1815d
surprisingly small and light
oh, and it's pretty bright too - dare I say comparable with one of those big Dewalts? maybe - we had both out this evening and it wasn't obvious which one was better
nice even spread of light, wide beam, reasonable colour temp
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I've got one of those for work - seems pretty good. Only lasts 3-4 hours but is light and pretty bright -fairly broad, bright white beam (admittedly only used at burned-out fire scenes, rather than crags). Just remember to recharge on your return home - only lasts one long night.
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Only lasts 3-4 hours
:lol:
that's three times as long as my skin can last
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my yellow monster finally died and no amount of bulb changing and wire jiggling could bring it back to life
so today I went crazy and spent a dozen Fuck Alls on one of these
http://www.screwfix.com/p/ae0183-rechargeable-led-work-light-10w-12-240v/1815d (http://www.screwfix.com/p/ae0183-rechargeable-led-work-light-10w-12-240v/1815d)
surprisingly small and light
oh, and it's pretty bright too - dare I say comparable with one of those big Dewalts? maybe - we had both out this evening and it wasn't obvious which one was better
nice even spread of light, wide beam, reasonable colour temp
OK yours was better cheaper lighter brighter than my now sooo out of date Dewalt.
When I got back last night I ordered one of these [size=78%]http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NMABRX4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NMABRX4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00)[/size]
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20W huh?
is this the start of some sort of arms race?
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Lumens is where its at...
and top knots (apparently..)
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I think my 10W lamp claims 700 lumens - not much compared to what some of the cree bike lights claim
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Bit of fun when it was warm for a brief moment this summer - Lantern Sessions meet DWS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scfE4h2-QgY
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Looks fun. I think we missed that warm day.
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Lots of fun but extra scary when you can' t see your landing zone :o
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got half way through page two and skipped to the end so apologies if someone has already covered this.
Best to go for (in my experience) the builders style lamps, from somewhere like Screwfix:
http://www.screwfix.com/c/electrical-lighting/work-lights/cat4780004
I've seen something similar in use at the crag, looked pretty sweet and more crucially, the plasterer that did my house had something like this that blinded the shit out of me but did dry the plaster off a bit quicker
(this link is actually pretty shit but you get the idea of what i mean)
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(this link is actually pretty shit but you get the idea of what i mean)
Link worked for me :shrug:
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got half way through page two and skipped to the end so apologies if someone has already covered this.
Best to go for (in my experience) the builders style lamps, from somewhere like Screwfix:
http://www.screwfix.com/c/electrical-lighting/work-lights/cat4780004
I've seen something similar in use at the crag, looked pretty sweet and more crucially, the plasterer that did my house had something like this that blinded the shit out of me but did dry the plaster off a bit quicker
(this link is actually pretty shit but you get the idea of what i mean)
I have one of the DeWalt ones that runs off 18v drill batteries. Its great, and unlike using tiny LED lamps etc you're actually dealing with quite a large diffuse lightsource so the shadows aren't so hard.
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got half way through page two and skipped to the end so apologies if someone has already covered this.
Best to go for (in my experience) the builders style lamps, from somewhere like Screwfix:
http://www.screwfix.com/c/electrical-lighting/work-lights/cat4780004
I've seen something similar in use at the crag, looked pretty sweet and more crucially, the plasterer that did my house had something like this that blinded the shit out of me but did dry the plaster off a bit quicker
(this link is actually pretty shit but you get the idea of what i mean)
I have one of the DeWalt ones that runs off 18v drill batteries. Its great, and unlike using tiny LED lamps etc you're actually dealing with quite a large diffuse lightsource so the shadows aren't so hard.
Me too - but I'd quite like it if there was some sort of LED replacement for the big ring flouro tube...
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(this link is actually pretty shit but you get the idea of what i mean)
Link worked for me :shrug:
More meant the content, didn't have time to trawl through for decent products. Sounds like DeWalt are the ones to go for, will maybe do some shopping. Can go on the list with one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/p/telesteps-blue-line-ladder-8-tread-2-6m/8503g
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the DeWalts are heavy and expensive
for the money, I'd rather have 2 of these (still weigh less than a DeWalt)
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8731.msg484929.html#msg484929
2 lights = less bad shadows
I don't think I've seen Dolly's 20w monster yet?
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The dewalts are pretty robust though, nothing to break on em really, easy to carry and you can take the batteries out (which are the heaviest part) and carry them in a bag. That leaves you with a quite light unit to carry by hand.
If you could replace the tube with LEDs it'd probably be even better as one battery would last for donkeys years.
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for the money, I'd rather have 2 of these (still weigh less than a DeWalt)
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8731.msg484929.html#msg484929
Interesting.
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http://www.toolstation.com/m/part.html?p=46130
Think I might have posted this up before, but can't be bothered to trawl back through the thread.
These are flawless, cheap and super light, they, come with European adaptors and in car chargers. I have two and if fully charged both will easily last a 2.5 hours session. (If my computer doesn't explode, I will be uploading a video soon, which will feature climbing at night with these lamps, I will post in here so you can see)
Quick question, you recon you could take these on a plane in luggage??
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I will be uploading a video soon
:bounce:
Feature length?
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for the money, I'd rather have 2 of these (still weigh less than a DeWalt)
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8731.msg484929.html#msg484929
How wide's the throw on these puppies?
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http://www.toolstation.com/m/part.html?p=46130
Think I might have posted this up before, but can't be bothered to trawl back through the thread.
These are flawless, cheap and super light, they, come with European adaptors and in car chargers. I have two and if fully charged both will easily last a 2.5 hours session. (If my computer doesn't explode, I will be uploading a video soon, which will feature climbing at night with these lamps, I will post in here so you can see)
Quick question, you recon you could take these on a plane in luggage??
Why not (on a plane that is..) - how heavy are they Dan?
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for the money, I'd rather have 2 of these (still weigh less than a DeWalt)
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8731.msg484929.html#msg484929
How wide's the throw on these puppies?
wide and even- I'd guess 150 degrees? - you can come round to have a play with mine if you want
light enough to mount on a camera tripod for better lighting position
I'll
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http://www.toolstation.com/m/part.html?p=46130
Think I might have posted this up before, but can't be bothered to trawl back through the thread.
These are flawless, cheap and super light, they, come with European adaptors and in car chargers. I have two and if fully charged both will easily last a 2.5 hours session. (If my computer doesn't explode, I will be uploading a video soon, which will feature climbing at night with these lamps, I will post in here so you can see)
Quick question, you recon you could take these on a plane in luggage??
Why not (on a plane that is..) - how heavy are they Dan?
Just because you cant remove the battery, if I was on baggage control I would be pretty suspicious haha.
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for the money, I'd rather have 2 of these (still weigh less than a DeWalt)
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8731.msg484929.html#msg484929
How wide's the throw on these puppies?
wide and even- I'd guess 150 degrees? - you can come round to have a play with mine if you want
light enough to mount on a camera tripod for better lighting position
I'll
Word. For 30 fuck alls, might be worth a look.
I'll
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for the money, I'd rather have 2 of these (still weigh less than a DeWalt)
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8731.msg484929.html#msg484929
How wide's the throw on these puppies?
wide and even- I'd guess 150 degrees? - you can come round to have a play with mine if you want
light enough to mount on a camera tripod for better lighting position
I'll
Word. For 30 fuck alls, might be worth a look.
I'll
I thought that worked out at 12 fuck alls
I'll
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I'll
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To review the options
http://www.screwfix.com/p/ae0183-rechargeable-led-work-light-10w-12-240v/1815d £30 lagers says is good. I've not seen these in use so can't comment. Is the video you made lagers using these?
http://www.toolstation.com/m/part.html?p=46130 £65 I've seen these and thought these were the best. Lightweight and bright
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/rwl12-12v-rechargeable-fluorescent-lig £50 this is what I've got, 5hr battery life, quite heavy, broke one but managed to fix it. Would go for the £65 if I bought again. Gonna try getting an LED light bulb as per Daves suggestion.
Dewalt lights - can't find a link. But assume expensive as you need Dewalt batteries, but easy to carry, good if you already have the batteries.
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I've got the machine mart one. It's OK, but a bit heavy.
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https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/rwl12-12v-rechargeable-fluorescent-lig £50 this is what I've got, 5hr battery life, quite heavy, broke one but managed to fix it. Would go for the £65 if I bought again. Gonna try getting an LED light bulb as per Daves suggestion.
I have that one too. Two people have asked me recently whether it's broken yet, as theirs did?!
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I have a feeling the dewalts might have been discontinued. The one I have was 60 bananas plus about 20 for a couple of second hand nicads off eBay. The plus point here being when I move house next I'm buying a decent battery drill, for which I already own two serviceable batteries.
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I've got the Machine Mart, bit fucked now though. I was walking down a muddy path and my feet went and it rolled to the bottom. Need to keep smacking It now :'( is ok but you need two of them really.
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Word. I've also seen the machine mart type break.
I've seen the green ones in action and they're great. Light, bright and reliable. Definitely go with something LED.
Can anyone comment on the brightness of the yellow screwfix ones? Best get two?
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I used to have the machine mart Clarke light - but it stopped woring after a few years - any night videos of mine will have been with that or Dolly's Dewalt
I much prefer my new yellow screwfix LED one over the old yellow monster - similar lighting, but much smaller and lighter and cheaper - and a wider angle, I think
you don't need 2, but 2 light sources works better
it did seem comparable to Dolly's dewalt earlier this year
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Word. I've also seen the machine mart type break.
I've seen the green ones in action and they're great. Light, bright and reliable. Definitely go with something LED.
Can anyone comment on the brightness of the yellow screwfix ones? Best get two?
Two, to reduce shadows! Three is perfect!
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From amazon
CREE XML XM-L T6 LED 1800 Lumens Cycle Bike Bicycle Rechargable Head Lights Lamp https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00SFCLIK6/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_9cc.vbVD42GRD
Just buy them. I got 5 there good. Like really good
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gosh
that's cheap
I had to check that a batery was included for that price
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https://vimeo.com/139734724 Video featuring the work station led light.
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Haydn how easily do those things stand up?
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From amazon
CREE XML XM-L T6 LED 1800 Lumens Cycle Bike Bicycle Rechargable Head Lights Lamp https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00SFCLIK6/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_9cc.vbVD42GRD
Just buy them. I got 5 there good. Like really good
Nice one Haydyn, have heard Cree recommended before and that price is unbeatable.
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I've got one very similar and use the elastic ring which it's supplied with (designed for attaching to handlebars) to attach it onto a GorillaPod (or a cheap knockoff). Means it will stand up, or hang from a branch/trunk.
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There's a couple of these in our group and I've just bought one as well.
http://opteka.com/vl800.aspx (http://opteka.com/vl800.aspx)
Light for a video camera. Abit expensive but so good. Battery life is like 6hrs on low (which is plenty good enough!). I've only just got mine and had 3 sessions without running out of power. I did pick up a spare as well.
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I've got one very similar and use the elastic ring which it's supplied with (designed for attaching to handlebars) to attach it onto a GorillaPod (or a cheap knockoff). Means it will stand up, or hang from a branch/trunk.
Or you can use the elastic ring (arab strap) to attach to legs of a tripod, or an extended telescopic brush. Just remember to unplug from battery when not in use, the power level light on the back draws quite a lot. And they are quite cool to climb with in strobe mode.
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Good vid there from turnip, both bloody strong! Tune as well :strongbench:
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for the money, I'd rather have 2 of these (still weigh less than a DeWalt)
http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,8731.msg484929.html#msg484929
How wide's the throw on these puppies?
wide and even- I'd guess 150 degrees? - you can come round to have a play with mine if you want
light enough to mount on a camera tripod for better lighting position
I'll
Bought one of these and used it last night. Impressed. Bright, wide light. Not heavy. Used it for two hours despite not having had time to fully charge it and it was fine.
I'll
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s'ick
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w'ord
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All the lights...
And putting heel back into shoes...
(http://www.thecrag.com/image/photo/00004/modified/757802553.jpg)
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Noticed this on Singletrack bike website. 10 minute runtime might be a bit of a problem but you could probably light an entire crag with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JVqRy0sWWY
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BMC guide to minimising the impact of lantern sessions (https://www.thebmc.co.uk/night-climbing-bouldering-lantern-sessions-tips).
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Wise words.
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LED rechargeable worklights were in a recent Screwfix sale if anyone is looking currently.
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Wise words.
Except "use red light as it doesn’t travel as far".... the irony is red light is the hardest to scatter in the atmosphere so goes furthest. I suspect what they meant to say is that in the blue shifted scoptic colour vision of dark conditions the sensitivity to red lights in the distance is much reduced (compared to the good photopic conditions the boulderers will be using, where red light response is normal).
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Nice to see I wasn't the only one who found some of the phrasing a bit odd. I particularly liked the notion that sound travels further in the dark.
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Sound does travel further in the dark, for the sake of the exercise.
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Thanks for clearing that up :great:
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At night there is less source of 'other' noises to interfere/mask.
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Yeesh, I know that. Does starlight not quite make it to Earth during the day, too?
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Yeesh, I know that. Does starlight not quite make it to Earth during the day, too?
If you already knew that what was your problem with the BMCs (simplified) wording then? :shrug:
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Erm, I said I liked the phrasing... I just found it amusing, in the same way as Offwidth did about the red light. I'm surprised I find myself explaining that as someone as keen to pounce on scientific inaccuracies as you are (not a criticism). I think we can call this minor diversion done now.
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I'm surprised I find myself explaining that
Offwidth explained himself, you hadn't ergo I had no idea what amused you about the phrasing.
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Glad to see the BMC are changing the rules of physics. ;)
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I'm surprised I find myself explaining that
Offwidth explained himself, you hadn't ergo I had no idea what amused you about the phrasing.
You had no idea? Heaven help us!
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Well I could have hazarded a guess but I can't read your mind, which is why I asked.
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Just seen that the smaller screwfix rechargeable work light is on sale at the moment, £7 off:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/ae0181-rechargeable-led-work-light-5w-12-240v/1047d
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The season is underway and my old light has packed up. :(
Any more recommendations/recent purchase experience to share?
Ideally I'm looking for something plug in/rechargeable.
Cheers.
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Screwfix.
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That screw fix light is no longer available. I was going to get a 3rd.
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That screw fix light is no longer available. I was going to get a 3rd.
That sucks, it was the best around. I only have the one, was going to get a 2nd. Anyone know an alternative that's just as good?
Can't believe it's practically lamplight season already...!
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10W instead of 5W?
http://www.screwfix.com/p/ae0294-rechargeable-led-work-light-10w-12-24v/2587k
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10W instead of 5W?
http://www.screwfix.com/p/ae0294-rechargeable-led-work-light-10w-12-24v/2587k
Looks pretty similar to the one I've got and that works a treat. Battery life is potentially a little short, but usually just about get a full session out of a charge.
Seems to be a 23W version available as well: http://www.screwfix.com/p/ae0295-rechargeable-led-work-light-23w-12-240v/7042k
Guess the battery life is going to be a bit worse, but it does have a high and low power mode which probably helps.
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Can't believe it's practically lamplight season already...!
Had my first lamp session (of the season) on Tuesday, it made me very psyched for winter. :strongbench:
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Cheers, screwfix looks like the job and I can pick one up tomorrow on the way home from work. :)
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Don't know if these have been posted here, but they are a step up again from the usual Cree bike lights, but holy shit they are bright.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01JOEMGJ0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
come with rubber band mount for tripod, headtorch or helmet mount options.
Edit - just noticed they have gone out of stock, but keep an eye on them.
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Calling of the lamp? Not climbed with a headtorch for years but had a splendid time last night, Helsby Woods. Ebay 12 quid Cree headtorch propped on the ground and Petzl Reaktik+ on the head. Plenty good enough for a shuttling traverse you know fairly well. Enjoyed the otherness of it and the thought of not being defeated by work dragging on. Too many woodlice lining the pockets though. Prehistoric idiots.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaCYYg_F6fD/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaCYlB0FD_F/
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10W instead of 5W?
http://www.screwfix.com/p/ae0294-rechargeable-led-work-light-10w-12-24v/2587k
Looks pretty similar to the one I've got and that works a treat. Battery life is potentially a little short, but usually just about get a full session out of a charge.
Seems to be a 23W version available as well: http://www.screwfix.com/p/ae0295-rechargeable-led-work-light-23w-12-240v/7042k
Guess the battery life is going to be a bit worse, but it does have a high and low power mode which probably helps.
Has anyone used the 5, 10, and 23W versions? Just wondering if it's worth going for on of the brighter versions?
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Not used the Diall ones but this one is good and fully waterproof. Long charge time at eight hours but three hour run time at 750 Lumens and you can charge a phone from it.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/luceco-led-usb-rechargeable-site-light-10w-5v/5276k
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Not used the Diall ones but this one is good and fully waterproof. Long charge time at eight hours but three hour run time at 750 Lumens and you can charge a phone from it.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/luceco-led-usb-rechargeable-site-light-10w-5v/5276k
Or presumably a small fan, a heater or whatever other electronic device that seems essential for bouldering these days ;)
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Too many woodlice lining the pockets though. Prehistoric idiots.
Can't be as bad as sea slaters. Like woodlice with armour, and dumber.
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Take care when recharging those cheap Far East sourced lanterns and headtorches...
https://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/2018/02/19/experts%E2%80%99-warning-to-outdoor-fans-as-exploding-headtorch-sparks-glenmore-lodge-blaze
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Avoid anything with 18650 batteries. These are often removed from old laptop batteries, and the charger is unsuited to the battery.
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Looks like the Diall lantern is being discontinued. Worth getting one before they're all gone. Screwfix seem to be out of stock already, but B&Q still have a few left. Recommend the 10W over the 23W. It's a lot smaller and a bit lighter, but the light doesn't seem hugely dimmer.
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Just bought one for £12 from here:
https://www.idealworld.tv/gb/pp/rechargeable-led-worklight-10w-474963?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8M-CtuXO5gIVh7HtCh2Otwa7EAkYAiABEgKT4_D_BwE (https://www.idealworld.tv/gb/pp/rechargeable-led-worklight-10w-474963?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8M-CtuXO5gIVh7HtCh2Otwa7EAkYAiABEgKT4_D_BwE)
Increasing the opportunities for adventure
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Definitely worth getting the daddy version of this light of your gonna get some lanturns.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/diall-portable-led-work-light-24w-220-240v/1098k
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Oops the one I linked wasn't a battery one. But anyway if you can get hold of the bigger ones they are good
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I bought a 30 w erbauer rechargeable worklight from screwfix.3hrs at max brightness 2400 lumens. Does the trick. I gave one to my son for Christmas. You should have seen his little face light up.
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:chair: poor!
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For when the lock down kicks in and you need to do a lantern session . . . . without a lantern. (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pulsar-Night-Vision-Goggles-gs1x20/dp/B01J4977QW/ref=pd_sbs_421_3/258-1361445-6587842?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01J4977QW&pd_rd_r=00de8e91-5c0a-4d0d-a39d-aa5eab6c8cfe&pd_rd_w=fRfZu&pd_rd_wg=ZdCt4&pf_rd_p=96cae456-8d7a-4bc1-91c7-9b20b4dfd7c9&pf_rd_r=GD8DR0JF93APDD151008&psc=1&refRID=GD8DR0JF93APDD151008)
(https://www.scottcountry.co.uk/media/managed/CACHE/images/product/31/edgegsgen1_CS2ldB4/d968f57bf160482ecd1615851c1f33f3.jpg)
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Ever wanted to light up your climb from over a kilometre away (no seriously not joking) ? well now you can......
https://www.nealsgadgets.com/products/imalent-ms18-100000-lumens-led-flashlight?aff=4