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the shizzle => shootin' the shit => food & drink => Topic started by: shurt on May 15, 2013, 02:12:37 pm
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I eat a lot of crisps, alway have. There's this phrase that appears on a lot of crisps these days - 'hand cooked'. I mean what the f**k does it mean? Does a person tip the sliced potatoes into the fryer rather than them coming down a conveyer belt? How does that have any bearing on how they turn out? Is the burning oil held in the hands of an underpaid worker and the crisps fried in amongst the peeling skin?
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I was having the exact same discussion with my dad last night. I was having visions of someone dipping hand carved slices of potato into the frying with their bare hands!
Pure marketing BS. Can't see how it could possibly improve things at all!
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Kettle-style chips (known as hand-cooked in the UK/Europe) are traditionally made by the "batch-style" process, where all chips are fried all at once at a low temperature profile, and continuously raked to prevent them from sticking together. There has been some development recently where kettle-style chips are able to be produced by a "continuous-style" process (like a long conveyor belt), creating the same old-fashioned texture and flavor of a real kettle-cooked chip.
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I eat a lot of crisps, alway have. There's this phrase that appears on a lot of crisps these days - 'hand cooked'. I mean what the f**k does it mean? Does a person tip the sliced potatoes into the fryer rather than them coming down a conveyer belt? How does that have any bearing on how they turn out? Is the burning oil held in the hands of an underpaid worker and the crisps fried in amongst the peeling skin?
:lol: Good rant.
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Kettle-style chips (known as hand-cooked in the UK/Europe) are traditionally made by the "batch-style" process, where all chips are fried all at once at a low temperature profile, and continuously raked to prevent them from sticking together. There has been some development recently where kettle-style chips are able to be produced by a "continuous-style" process (like a long conveyor belt), creating the same old-fashioned texture and flavor of a real kettle-cooked chip.
I'll confess I did read this after posting on WP so there you go. It's still a load of crap dreamed up by some marketing people somewhere in some funky office somewhere like hoxton, probably on a space hopper.
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Absolutely. "These crisps are traditional and oldy-timey and therefore are good for you and obviously taste better than other crisps." Bollocks, all crisps of all flavours taste exactly the same.
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It's still a load of crap dreamed up by some marketing people somewhere in some funky office somewhere like hoxton, probably on a space hopper.
That describes a significant amount of modern life. Getting on for 20 years old now (but still relevant on many fronts)....
Bill Hicks on Marketing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo#)
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Absolutely. "These crisps are traditional and oldy-timey and therefore are good for you and obviously taste better than other crisps." Bollocks, all crisps of all flavours taste exactly the same.
Rubbish. I gladly pay more for a packet of kettle chips than walkers... they taste miles better and are thicker and more full of lard. Winning.
Anyway. WHAT THE FUCK happened to Golden Wonder. eh?
When I were lad, it was all Golden Wonder and now all you can get is spawn of Lineker brand crisps. WALKERS ARE THE MICROSOFT OF CRISPS. Think of that next time you tuck into a bag. Made you think huh. YEAH!
AND ANOTHER THING... I had mate who could not say crisps. He could say crispys or crips but not crisps.
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Bollocks, all crisps of all flavours taste exactly the same.
I can only assume your mouth is coated in wax!
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Anyway. WHAT THE FUCK happened to Golden Wonder. eh?
When I were lad, it was all Golden Wonder and now all you can get is spawn of Lineker brand crisps. WALKERS ARE THE MICROSOFT OF CRISPS. Think of that next time you tuck into a bag. Made you think huh. YEAH!
Can still get GW. What happened to Smith's though?
All the above are better than Pringles, which are baked slices of mashed potato, and rank.
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Well, a little hyperbole, but most "posh crisps" taste very similar. These days I only get Aldi-equivalent quavers and wotsits.
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Anyway. WHAT THE FUCK happened to Golden Wonder. eh?
When I were lad, it was all Golden Wonder and now all you can get is spawn of Lineker brand crisps. WALKERS ARE THE MICROSOFT OF CRISPS. Think of that next time you tuck into a bag. Made you think huh. YEAH!
Can still get GW. What happened to Smith's though?
All the above are better than Pringles, which are baked slices of mashed potato, and rank.
Maybe they're banned south of the border... :(
I BET ITS THE EU.... right I'm going to become a uKipper - bollox to Brussells...
However, the saving grace in Yorkshire is Seabrooks... Salt and vinegar seabrooks still make me wince :) winning.
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Well, a little hyperbole, but most "posh crisps" taste very similar. These days I only get Aldi-equivalent quavers and wotsits.
Quavers and Wotsits are possibly worse than pringles. Air blown puffs of crisp factory floor sweepings. The equivalent of a tesco value sausage...
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However, the saving grace in Yorkshire is Seabrooks... Salt and vinegar seabrooks still make me wince :) winning.
Have you tried their Wasabi or Two Chilli varieties from the Hot & Spicy range? :2thumbsup:
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However, the saving grace in Yorkshire is Seabrooks... Salt and vinegar seabrooks still make me wince :) winning.
Have you tried their Wasabi or Two Chilli varieties from the Hot & Spicy range? :2thumbsup:
Their Canadian Ham flavour are also amazing. Hard to get down here in the SW though.
Bill Hicks seemed to just cut through everything in a brilliant way. Just as relevant now, like all good satire. Did you see that cartoony bio pic that came out a few years back? I really enjoyed it...
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Not seen the cartoon biopic, but have Revelations, One Night Stand, and most of his albums.
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These days I only get Aldi-equivalent quavers and wotsits.
This is like saying all beer tastes the same before admitting that you only drink carling C2 and fosters ice!
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No, that's like saying I used to drink vast quantities of different real ales but now just go for the cheap option of C2. I've tried them all, believe me, and crisps bore me. I might even move onto nuts in the hunters now.
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Emery! Go to Booths in Ilkley and purchase a large packet of Pipers cider vinegar & sea salt crisps, then tell me all crisps taste the same! They pair well with many of the blonde and amber ales found a few isles down :2thumbsup:
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Yeah, crisps are so last week darling.
Going back to the original point, I have similar feeling about cafe's and similar establishments selling 'home made' stuff. From that I read
A "this has been made in my skanky kitchen that I don't have a food hygiene certificate for, as my cat walks on the counter top and my kids dip their fingers in the mixing bowl before I put it in my fridge for the night that I haven't cleaned in ages because I'm fed of cleaning at the end of a working day where all I do is clean stuff in the kitchen"
or
B "I made this here, in this kitchen. There was just a bit of space on the chalkboard that needed filling"
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I think the rose tinted fiftys specs worn in Hoxton somehow shield the hipsters from the grimness ;)
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Kettle-style chips (known as hand-cooked in the UK/Europe) are traditionally made by the "batch-style" process, where all chips are fried all at once at a low temperature profile, and continuously raked to prevent them from sticking together. There has been some development recently where kettle-style chips are able to be produced by a "continuous-style" process (like a long conveyor belt), creating the same old-fashioned texture and flavor of a real kettle-cooked chip.
I'll confess I did read this after posting on WP so there you go. It's still a load of crap dreamed up by some marketing people somewhere in some funky office somewhere like hoxton, probably on a space hopper.
Both the idea that Hoxton is an attractive part of London and the "hand-cooked" crisp are masterpieces of marketing. However I believe the latter predates the former.
I don't think Hoxton is attractive, just its got a bad rep for marketing, media type bullshit (i did say somewhere like Hoxton!). Also I thought the point was that hand cooked is far from a masterpiece of marketing just another meaningless phrase fed to us to make us think what we are getting is better. And also an excuse to charge more moneyfor the pleasure.
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Emery! Go to Booths in Ilkley and purchase a large packet of Pipers cider vinegar & sea salt crisps, then tell me all crisps taste the same! They pair well with many of the blonde and amber ales found a few isles down :2thumbsup:
I am a crisp lover, I have no problem seeing off an entire 150g bag of an evening but the increasingly elaborate descriptions are something of a pet hate, the crisp aisle these days is like perusing a gourmet menu. Vinegar can be red wine, balsamic, cider even malt but your crisps are in reality just salt & vinegar. Not that I'd touch such filth, more of a Mature Cheddar and Red Onion Cheese 'n' Onion man meself.
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Tonight I have mostly been eating Makro salt and vinegar chipsticks. :2thumbsup:
They follow 'Obi's rules of processed crisps' which is, if they've taken all the crap good stuff out of the original eg. wotsits, then buy a cheap copy which will still taste like the original should.
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ah, there we go. a man after my own (cholesterol coated) heart.
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Kettle-style chips (known as hand-cooked in the UK/Europe) are traditionally made by the "batch-style" process, where all chips are fried all at once at a low temperature profile, and continuously raked to prevent them from sticking together. There has been some development recently where kettle-style chips are able to be produced by a "continuous-style" process (like a long conveyor belt), creating the same old-fashioned texture and flavor of a real kettle-cooked chip.
I'll confess I did read this after posting on WP so there you go. It's still a load of crap dreamed up by some marketing people somewhere in some funky office somewhere like hoxton, probably on a space hopper.
Both the idea that Hoxton is an attractive part of London and the "hand-cooked" crisp are masterpieces of marketing. However I believe the latter predates the former.
I don't think Hoxton is attractive, just its got a bad rep for marketing, media type bullshit
Yeah, I understood that. What I meant is that funky offices only started appearing in Hoxton in the early 00s, whilst I am pretty sure things like kettle crisps were well established by then. I am claiming some local knowledge here as I lived in the Shoreditch/ Columbia Road area in the early 90s then watched with incredulity as first that area became trendy (kind of merited ...) and then eventually nearby unmitigated shitholes like Hoxton and Dalston.
Agreed Shoreditch isn't that bad. I had some friends who lived in Dalston and it was a massive shithole. Although it did do a good line in totally out of control warehouse parties.
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Isn't that the point? That it's a bit grungy and scummy, therefore "cool"?
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nouveau skank.
My pet hate is "hint of....." flavoured crisps. If you are going to make them taste of something do a decent fucking job of it.
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Isn't that the point? That it's a bit grungy and scummy, therefore "cool"?
Well I know some people consider that cool but lliving in squalor never really did it for me and ive lived in some shit houses in Leeds and Bristol. This one in Dalston was another level..
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I'll just say the last word on this bollocks. These so called hand cooked things are too thick and greasy
1. Kettle Chips RIDGED -all flavours
2. Co-op Salt and Chardonnay Vinegar (which are Tyrells but shit all over his own ok ish stuff)
3. Any kind of salt and vinegar chipstick
4. Any kind of potato twirl
5. Cheap 'onion rings' preferably when bought in conjunction with 4 or 5 for 90p (big bags).
However. Aldi chilli peanuts beat them all. No doubt some dippo will be along soon to contend this but basically, you're wrong
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If you're introducing nuts into the equation these are a strong contender...
(http://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/images/large/SGN4147.jpg)
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I always thought pork crunch was quite an impressive snack. 70% protein! Often less fat than crisps. Used to get through a few packs when I worked in t'pub. It wasn't like I could afford meat (still can't mind). These days I get my protein from low fat milk and yoghurt. Probably healthier.
(http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=266909526 (http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=266909526))
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However. Aldi chilli peanuts beat them all.
I shall investigate at lunch-time.
No doubt some dippo will be along soon to contend this but basically, you're wrong
:lol:
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Having been baffled by the fact that crisps would be higher in fat than
pork scratchings pork crunch. I had a google. Now I see. Pork Crunch ≠ Pork Scratchings.
:slap:
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Having been baffled by the fact that crisps would be higher in fat than pork scratchings pork crunch. I had a google. Now I see. Pork Crunch ≠ Pork Scratchings.
:slap:
Is that like scampi flavour fries...
Or crab sticks...
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No. I'd say they're quite unique. Scampi flavour fries are just crisps. These are actually carb-free and the main ingredient is pork rinds.
Protein, fat, flavourings. They actually add vegetable protein. Weird.
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These are actually carb-free and the main ingredient is pork rinds.
Protein, fat, flavourings. They actually add vegetable protein. Weird.
Sounds perfect! Now if only they made that in a drink ;)
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I'll just say the last word on this bollocks. These so called hand cooked things are too thick and greasy
1. Kettle Chips RIDGED -all flavours
2. Co-op Salt and Chardonnay Vinegar (which are Tyrells but shit all over his own ok ish stuff)
3. Any kind of salt and vinegar chipstick
4. Any kind of potato twirl
5. Cheap 'onion rings' preferably when bought in conjunction with 4 or 5 for 90p (big bags).
However. Aldi chilli peanuts beat them all. No doubt some dippo will be along soon to contend this but basically, you're wrong
I am totally down with Kettle Chips Ridged and the Coop own crisps (all flavours of these actually). I'm a big fan of frazzles and skips too although they now come in a cheaper supermarket own variety which are just as good.
I was having a good conversation the other day which went 'if you ran a pub what crisps / bar snacks would you sell?'. Crisps alone went on for some time...
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Frazzles remind me of holiday hangovers around the pool slowly drinking beer to recover. Love them! But seabrooke ready salted are the daddy - and one taste can take me back to sitting outside in a beer garden as a kid in the 70s drinking shandy bought by my dad. However for vile crapness that are amazing you can't beat monster munch flaming hot (obviously roast beef monster munch are the devil's work)
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However. Aldi chilli peanuts beat them all.
I shall investigate at lunch-time.
Avoid the ones that are in a floury 'coating/shell'. These look like normal dry roasted nuts but taste El Plementos...
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snacks of my life:
Planter's Dry Roasted Peanuts - especially the freak packs with inordinate amounts of super-strong flavouring "dust" at the bottom. Lick your fingers, dip and suck.... the intensity of flavour almost induced hallucinations. Hoping for those packs was the pub-goers psychedelic lottery.
Fish'n'Chip snacks - savoury biscuits that came in a pack that aped newspaper wrapped fish and chips. Memories of playing pool in Selby Working Men's club... Dad have you got anymore 10ps?
Mini-cheddars - indelible associations with being woken up by Mum and Dad returning from the pub. I would fall back asleep with the smell of a late night fried egg sandwich wafting up the stairs. On waking, a pack of mini-cheddars would be waiting on my bedside table.
Honorable mentions: Salt'n'Shake crisps - much admired during school dinners despite being utterly pointless and never salty enough (did anyone ever elect not to use the sachet?); Seabrook Smokey Bacon - more intensely artificial than an animatronic Tom Cruise.
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snacks of my life:
Planter's Dry Roasted Peanuts - especially the freak packs with inordinate amounts of super-strong flavouring "dust" at the bottom. Lick your fingers, dip and suck.... the intensity of flavour almost induced hallucinations. Hoping for those packs was the pub-goers psychedelic lottery.
Fish'n'Chip snacks - savoury biscuits that came in a pack that aped newspaper wrapped fish and chips. Memories of playing pool in Selby Working Men's club... Dad have you got anymore 10ps?
Mini-cheddars - indelible associations with being woken up by Mum and Dad returning from the pub. I would fall back asleep with the smell of a late night fried egg sandwich wafting up the stairs. On waking, a pack of mini-cheddars would be waiting on my bedside table.
Honorable mentions: Salt'n'Shake crisps - much admired during school dinners despite being utterly pointless and never salty enough (did anyone ever elect not to use the sachet?); Seabrook Smokey Bacon - more intensely artificial than an animatronic Tom Cruise.
All good calls, we always have Mini-cheddars in 'for the kids' ;)
If your hankering after some 'fish'n'chips' check out these bad boys
http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/sainsburys-price-comparison/snacks/jacobs_smoky_bacon_oddities_5x25g.html (http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/sainsburys-price-comparison/snacks/jacobs_smoky_bacon_oddities_5x25g.html)
not quite the same but see if you think they are reminiscent of them, we do, and rate them.
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I hate this thread, I am now craving honey roasted peanuts.
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But seabrooke ready salted are the daddy - and one taste can take me back to sitting outside in a beer garden as a kid in the 70s drinking shandy bought by my dad.
When I worked in bradford we had a contract for servicing some pumps at the seabrooks factory, and they would always give us a box of "sampled" crisps (they stick a syringe in a packet per batch and suck out the nitrogen to test for pureness.) The last to go were the random flavours like sweetcorn, which were pretty rank, but did actually taste of sweetcorn. Wonder how many packets actually get sold?