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chuffing / Re: closed project etiquette
« Last post by rjtrials on Today at 12:44:43 pm »I suppose in my own mind, I view people who "steal" overly protracted closed projects more favourably than I do people who don't open them freely after they are several years old. But no one ought to mind what I think.As mentioned above, the "stealer" often doesn't leave the route in an optimal state for repeaters.
As a direct response, how do you know if a project is defacto open or closed without directly talking to the person responsible for developing the climb ?
Are you relying on hearsay?
As an example, I was partly responsible for resurrecting a crag that had lain dormant since 2015. Most of the routes had anchors that needed attention, and the name plaques had all faded etc etc.
I reached out to one of the developers, he sent a pic of his hand drawn topo. I started a Google doc and invited the other two main developers to add the info they had. We put chains on some classics, I added / moves bolts etc etc .
It became a hopping zone this fall and not only were the people new to the zone psyched , the OG's were excited we were fulfilling the vision and making the crag better than they had left it.
Of course there were a couple undone routes and I was encouraged to finish them.
A wad was visiting one day, not falling on anything, and enquired if the projects were open or closed.
I told him I had talked to the bolters and had specific permission to do what needed to be done (I added anchors bolts, belay bolt, chains etc) and if he wanted to climb on the other projects he should do the same. Crestfallen he waited until I sent and then casually flashed the second ascent.
But seriously, how hard is it to just text someone and ask about a line? How lazy are you that you will whine about a 'closed' project yet won't pick up the phone let alone the drill, hammer , brushes etc.
Seriously you can GTFO with that attitude. I've had this conversation in person many times and I just tell the wads to bolt their own projects, tell them a half dozen options, then mention how being a repeater of routes add nothing to the community.