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Title: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: Doylo on March 26, 2015, 02:28:10 pm
I'm a bit out the loop on this one as I haven't used any hand product since 2004 and the days of Climb On. Was wondering what people tend to use these days (if anything)?
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: Sloper on March 26, 2015, 02:31:00 pm
Wedding rings, but be careful they can make you very weak.
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Post by: Doylo on March 26, 2015, 02:33:39 pm
Fuck that.
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Post by: tomtom on March 26, 2015, 02:34:50 pm
Easyiron+
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Post by: Durbs on March 26, 2015, 02:44:22 pm
Your mum?
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Post by: Doylo on March 26, 2015, 02:57:09 pm
Teen juice?
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Post by: Luke Owens on March 26, 2015, 03:51:37 pm
Chalk
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Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2015, 03:58:11 pm
http://www.jtreelife.com/products/climbing-salve (http://www.jtreelife.com/products/climbing-salve)

but only because I got some free pots in Squamish. It does melt and seperate in warm temps, but is fine for use in Scotland.
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Post by: petejh on March 26, 2015, 03:59:45 pm
Climb on..
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Post by: Zods Beard on March 26, 2015, 04:13:45 pm
Handy Gurugu from the hippy capitalists at Lush.

It's very good.
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Post by: Nibile on March 26, 2015, 04:15:29 pm
Teen juice?
Was about to say it...
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Post by: andy_e on March 26, 2015, 04:18:44 pm
Teen juice?

Nearly... (http://tipjuice.co.uk/)
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 26, 2015, 04:26:28 pm
elizabeth arden eight hour cream for tips

12 quid or summat from superdrug

heal balm (thin) for the rest of the hand
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: abarro81 on March 26, 2015, 07:09:33 pm
My ass. I blood blistered yesterday tho, so maybe I was too vigorous?
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: Doylo on March 26, 2015, 07:12:11 pm
My ass. I blood blistered yesterday tho, so maybe I was too vigorous?

The piles stopped entry last time. You better hurry up word is Ashima set to downgrade Era Vellas  ;)
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Post by: abarro81 on March 26, 2015, 07:16:10 pm
Shed cruise it. I, unfortunately, am finding it rather hard!
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Post by: mrjonathanr on March 26, 2015, 07:29:17 pm
Anusol.
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: Doylo on March 26, 2015, 07:33:34 pm
Shed cruise it. I, unfortunately, am finding it rather hard!

Time to bring out the rubber all body suit.
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: battery on March 26, 2015, 07:48:53 pm
elizabeth arden eight hour cream

 :agree:
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Post by: Probes on March 26, 2015, 08:15:28 pm
The misses does ultras and puts quality olive oil mixed with coconut oil on her feet, swears by it for stopping blisters.. Ive started using it on my fingers.. I'm dubious but seems to be working...  might be something in all this hippy lark  :blink:
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Post by: abarro81 on March 26, 2015, 08:16:21 pm
Time to bring out the rubber all body suit.

She's a bit young for that.

Problem with this one is there's no tricks! I should stick to things I can cheat ;)
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: Fiend on March 26, 2015, 08:17:43 pm
Anti-hydral, superglue, and tape. Usually in that order.
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: Doylo on March 26, 2015, 08:30:38 pm
Time to bring out the rubber all body suit.

She's a bit young for that.

Problem with this one is there's no tricks! I should stick to things I can cheat ;)

One of those times in life when you just need to be strong and fit  ;) There's always Mutation when you get back  ;)
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: dr_botnik on March 26, 2015, 09:40:17 pm
Burt's bees hand salve, available from waitrose for about a tenner for 85g. That or sudocream if I'm skint.
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Post by: sxrxg on March 26, 2015, 10:16:47 pm
elizabeth arden eight hour cream

 :agree:

Original 8 hour cream for me as well. It is a bit greasy however it helps my tips to heal faster than anything else that I have ever tried. Make sure to get the orange original stuff though and not the white hand cream that they also brand as 8 hour hand cream.
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Post by: kelvin on March 26, 2015, 10:33:51 pm
elizabeth arden eight hour cream

 :agree:

Original 8 hour cream for me as well. It is a bit greasy however it helps my tips to heal faster than anything else that I have ever tried. Make sure to get the orange original stuff though and not the white hand cream that they also brand as 8 hour hand cream.

This one? http://www.superdrug.com/Skin/Face/Day-Cream-Moisturisers/ELIZABETH-ARDEN-8HOUR-50ML-CREAM-THE-ORIGINAL-TUBE-BOXED/p/333600#.VRSJLvmsWJc (http://www.superdrug.com/Skin/Face/Day-Cream-Moisturisers/ELIZABETH-ARDEN-8HOUR-50ML-CREAM-THE-ORIGINAL-TUBE-BOXED/p/333600#.VRSJLvmsWJc)
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: fatdoc on March 26, 2015, 10:53:29 pm
I'm with fiend.... Climb on... Or whatever the Metolius version is called, anti hydral ( sparingly on the rare multi day trips) and a shit ton of super glue.
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: TobyD on March 26, 2015, 11:55:56 pm
Handy Gurugu from the hippy capitalists at Lush.

It's very good.

I rate this stuff too. A good compromise between greasy but effective. As it were.
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 27, 2015, 05:53:54 am
elizabeth arden eight hour cream

 :agree:

Original 8 hour cream for me as well. It is a bit greasy however it helps my tips to heal faster than anything else that I have ever tried. Make sure to get the orange original stuff though and not the white hand cream that they also brand as 8 hour hand cream.

This one? http://www.superdrug.com/Skin/Face/Day-Cream-Moisturisers/ELIZABETH-ARDEN-8HOUR-50ML-CREAM-THE-ORIGINAL-TUBE-BOXED/p/333600#.VRSJLvmsWJc (http://www.superdrug.com/Skin/Face/Day-Cream-Moisturisers/ELIZABETH-ARDEN-8HOUR-50ML-CREAM-THE-ORIGINAL-TUBE-BOXED/p/333600#.VRSJLvmsWJc)

that's the one

after posting, I remembered that Mrs Starfish had asked me to get another tube for her

Superdrug on The Moor in Wadtown said they don't stock it any more, but Bodycare (similar to superdrug) have it in for 13 quid - on shelf behind the counter; you have to ask for it
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: battery on March 27, 2015, 08:10:54 am
elizabeth arden eight hour cream

 :agree:

Original 8 hour cream for me as well. It is a bit greasy however it helps my tips to heal faster than anything else that I have ever tried. Make sure to get the orange original stuff though and not the white hand cream that they also brand as 8 hour hand cream.

This one? http://www.superdrug.com/Skin/Face/Day-Cream-Moisturisers/ELIZABETH-ARDEN-8HOUR-50ML-CREAM-THE-ORIGINAL-TUBE-BOXED/p/333600#.VRSJLvmsWJc (http://www.superdrug.com/Skin/Face/Day-Cream-Moisturisers/ELIZABETH-ARDEN-8HOUR-50ML-CREAM-THE-ORIGINAL-TUBE-BOXED/p/333600#.VRSJLvmsWJc)

That looks like the one, and that's a bargain, will have to pick some up
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: creedence on March 27, 2015, 08:25:08 am
Just regular cocoa butter does the trick for me:
http://www.superdrug.com/Holiday---Prepare-to-Bare/Palmer%27s-Cocoa-Butter-Formula-Jar-100g/p/379149?gclid=COCArf-MyMQCFaIewwod9pEA0g&gclsrc=aw.ds#.VRUS-eFtCy4 (http://www.superdrug.com/Holiday---Prepare-to-Bare/Palmer%27s-Cocoa-Butter-Formula-Jar-100g/p/379149?gclid=COCArf-MyMQCFaIewwod9pEA0g&gclsrc=aw.ds#.VRUS-eFtCy4)

Cocoa butter is often one of the base compounds in the climbing specific balms, and you don't have to cut off one of your arms to pay for it.  So you can have good skin, and two hands...
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Post by: hstmoore on March 27, 2015, 09:30:54 am
a chemist once posted on UKC saying he had tried various moisturising-related ingredients on his hands using his the concentrated amounts he has access to.

according to him, concentrated vitamin E was the best for promoting skin growth.

You can get vitamin E cream from superdrug and it seems to work well for me.
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Post by: SA Chris on March 27, 2015, 09:48:04 am
That or sudocream if I'm skint.

I've yet to do a multi day bouldering trip since having to buy things like nappy cream, but given how quickly it sorts out nappy rash, I reckon Bepanthen is worth doing some testing on to see how quickly it gets fingers healing.
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Post by: Wood FT on March 27, 2015, 09:53:39 am
That or sudocream if I'm skint.
I reckon Bepanthen is worth doing some testing on to see how quickly it gets fingers healing.

It's what tatooists suggest.

What's the crack with that Elizabeth Arden stuff? People seem to rate it but I need anecdotes before I go looking for my girlfriend's (think Raiders of the lost Ark)
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Post by: Johnny Brown on March 27, 2015, 10:21:56 am
Neutrogena Norwegian formula, unscented (red top). Hands down the best moisturiser.

I use the 8 hour stuff when Jim brings it out in font. No idea if it works but there is definitely a psychological boost from the supposed expense.
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Post by: petejh on March 27, 2015, 10:28:57 am
Cocoa butter is often one of the base compounds in the climbing specific balms, and you don't have to cut off one of your arms to pay for it.  So you can have good skin, and two hands...

But need to use double the amount of cream as us one-armed smarties...
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Post by: lagerstarfish on March 27, 2015, 10:33:26 am
Neutrogena Norwegian formula, unscented (red top). Hands down the best moisturiser.

I found this to be the best hand stuff when working outside a lot - especially for the back of hands and cracked sides of fingers
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Post by: lagerstarfish on March 27, 2015, 10:35:32 am
What's the crack with that Elizabeth Arden stuff?

the chicks dig it
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Post by: tomtom on March 27, 2015, 10:39:14 am
What works best on knees?
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 27, 2015, 10:45:21 am
stealth pads
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: tomtom on March 27, 2015, 10:47:28 am
stealth pads

Will mrsTT have some of those in her cupboard along with the hand cream I pinch?
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Post by: lagerstarfish on March 27, 2015, 10:48:27 am
probably keeps them in the same place as the ladder
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Post by: SA Chris on March 27, 2015, 10:48:41 am
What works best on knees?

Burt's Bees. Is it good?
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Post by: tomtom on March 27, 2015, 10:58:52 am
probably keeps them in the same place as the ladder

Next to the rohypnol?
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Post by: standard on March 27, 2015, 12:08:35 pm
Neutrogena Norwegian formula, unscented (red top). Hands down the best moisturiser.

Seconded
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Post by: haydn jones on March 27, 2015, 12:49:34 pm
Anti-hydral, superglue, and tape. Usually in that order.
That was litrally me last night with three of my tips
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Post by: hamsforlegs on March 27, 2015, 01:06:26 pm
Neutrogena Norwegian formula, unscented (red top). Hands down the best moisturiser.

The concentrated blue top stuff is also ace and is a bit smaller if you're carrying it around.

Sainsburys does an own brand Vitamin E hand cream which seems to work really well as an overnight cream. Cheap as chips.
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Post by: ben on March 27, 2015, 01:21:27 pm
I've yet to do a multi day bouldering trip since having to buy things like nappy cream
so true
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Post by: Johnny Brown on March 27, 2015, 01:27:43 pm
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The concentrated blue top stuff is also ace and is a bit smaller if you're carrying it around.

That's the same stuff just scented. I meant the concentrated not the bigger creamy stuff.
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Post by: Doylo on March 27, 2015, 01:40:03 pm
Ta all.
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Post by: fatneck on March 27, 2015, 02:04:51 pm
Mum butter...
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Post by: Luke Owens on March 27, 2015, 03:09:54 pm
Mum butter...

I won't ask what that is...
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Post by: Doylo on March 27, 2015, 03:41:59 pm
Just been down the builders yard to get some Man batter.
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Post by: kelvin on March 28, 2015, 06:05:34 pm
Just been down the town. No man batter, no Liz Arden... I do have Norwegian concentrate tho. The Climb On ran out on Wed and the tips are still trashed from Curbar on Sunday. Picked up some vit E too but then got carried away and procured some atrixo, as my old man swore by it and he worked with water and outdoors all his life. Still cost less than that 8hr shizzle...
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Post by: Mike Tyson on March 28, 2015, 09:54:04 pm
Big fan of the Elizabeth Arden 8 hour cream. Worked wonders for me in Font last year.
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Post by: fatdoc on March 28, 2015, 10:11:27 pm
Prefer climb on to 8 hour. I have hands akin to new bornes skin as I wash my hands 60 times a day... So I'm screwed.

Font in 6 days, will anti hydral soak my digits every night this week, but climb on them a plenty too, to get then skin for 6 days on.
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Post by: lagerstarfish on March 28, 2015, 10:20:10 pm
I think we should add a load of caffeine to vit e cream and market it as Manmax Power Paste

maybe show some video of Slackline's fingers of justice setting fire to the inaccurate portion of the interweb - followed by soothing them with Manmax Power Paste ready for a hard day's work with unappreciative fuckwits   

I'd also like to feature in the advertising campaign - maybe just treating my knuckles after helping to explain the importance of keeping muddy feet off my pads and sedimentary boulders
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Post by: Gritter on March 28, 2015, 10:40:17 pm
I've used 8 hour cream for years, but have recently discovered lanolin nipple cream due to the birth of my daughter, which seems to be even better.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: kelvin on March 28, 2015, 10:56:49 pm
but have recently discovered lanolin nipple cream

 "Can I have some nipple cream please?"

No. No... I'm not falling for that one.
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Post by: moose on March 28, 2015, 11:37:29 pm
Lotil is pretty good - it's a cream for dermatitis / eczema (in the "medicinal" skincare section at Boots, rather than the section with Atrixo, Neutragena etc - so you know it's hard-core!).   It has a good combination of  being moisturizing whilst not being too oily - so good for use throughout the day - it is also slightly antiseptic so it reduces inflammation at little nicks and abrasions.  Mind you, a combination of Palmer's Cocoa Butter and Savlon does a similar job of dealing with dryness and cuts etc.  Recently I've found that Sudocrem (nappy rash cream) is a good overnight recovery cream - doesn't absorb very well but it does soothe very nicely - I had horrible sore toes over winter due to chilblains etc and it really helped (dirt cheap too).
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Post by: kelvin on March 29, 2015, 07:58:37 am
Nipple cream is definitely aimed at tips.
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Post by: lagerstarfish on March 29, 2015, 08:00:06 am
But if I could find a more solid/ waxier lanolin based product, I would use it for tips.

Lansinoh? (http://www.amazon.com/Lansinoh-Lanolin-Breastfeeding-Mothers-Grams/dp/B005MI648C)

it's pretty thick

Quote from: unsatisfied mother
Lansinoh is clear but very thick and almost impossible to squeeze out and spread evenly
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: cha1n on March 29, 2015, 09:37:49 am
I'm pretty skeptical that any of these creams promote skin growth, however I do use Burts Bees hand salve on my cuticles to keep them flexible and prevent cracking.

I rarely need to moisturise my tips as they are kept thin by all the climbing I do, although the tips of my index fingers stay drier than the others. Weird. Used to use climb on bar for the palm side of my hands and preferred it to the really greasy stuff.
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Post by: Fiend on April 02, 2015, 11:52:11 am
I rarely need to moisturise my tips as they are kept thin by all the climbing I do my skin is soft and sweaty as fuck, although the tips of my index fingers stay drier than the others.
:agree: TBH I would only be interested in products that encourage skin re-growth - dry/cracked fingers are NOT a problem here!! Anyone got any pro-tips for that?

Also anyone tried this: http://www.climbskin.com/en ?
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Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on April 02, 2015, 12:07:47 pm
I rarely need to moisturise my tips as they are kept thin by all the climbing I do my skin is soft and sweaty as fuck, although the tips of my index fingers stay drier than the others.
:agree: TBH I would only be interested in products that encourage skin re-growth - dry/cracked fingers are NOT a problem here!! Anyone got any pro-tips for that?

Also anyone tried this: http://www.climbskin.com/en ?

 :agree:  Me too! Always been a massive problem.

I've recently started playing the guitar, and ironically this does cause the very tips of my fingers to callous up. I'm wondering if I could create a mini fret board, with strings to push down on with the pads of my fingers, in order to produce a similar effect! Not tried Anti-hydral yet tho.

I was distressed to hear that Sam Whittaker has recently given up coffee. He said that the coffee gave him sweaty fingertips. Maybe that's worth a try too. Would save me some money too, but...  :boohoo:
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Post by: lagerstarfish on April 02, 2015, 12:15:15 pm
Dave - all you need to do is put a mini fretsimile on each key of your piano and develop a wierd pads only style of playing
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Post by: Fiend on April 02, 2015, 12:31:46 pm

I was distressed to hear that Sam Whittaker has recently given up coffee. He said that the coffee gave him sweaty fingertips. Maybe that's worth a try too. Would save me some money too, but...  :boohoo:

Noooooo  :'( :wavecry:
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Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on April 02, 2015, 12:37:20 pm
Wow!:

Press your fingertips into ridged but not sharp surfaces. Guitar Files suggests using the blunt, rolled edge around the top of a sealed can as one possibility. Alternately, use special callus builders available from music equipment suppliers. These are surfaces with rows of small ridges that mimic the feel of strings on your fingertips. Do not use anything that will cut your fingers; you’re trying to toughen the skin, not destroy it.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/516788-how-to-toughen-up-your-fingers/#page=1

I'll look for recommendations on performance enhancing drugs while I'm at it..

Lagers..

 "all you need to do is put a mini fretsimile on each key of your piano and develop a wierd pads only style of playing"

Not a bad idea
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Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on April 02, 2015, 12:39:45 pm

I was distressed to hear that Sam Whittaker has recently given up coffee. He said that the coffee gave him sweaty fingertips. Maybe that's worth a try too. Would save me some money too, but...  :boohoo:

Noooooo  :'( :wavecry:

I share your pain :coffee:
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Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on April 02, 2015, 12:46:58 pm
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8746/16821214498_21bdbe3c20_b.jpg)

Lagers, you seem to suffer from a similar affliction. Looks like your fingers have been entirely de-gloved!

Not sure why it makes you so happy..
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Post by: lagerstarfish on April 02, 2015, 01:09:50 pm
just thinking about how tough they'll be when the skin grows back
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Post by: measles23 on April 02, 2015, 08:23:17 pm
:agree: TBH I would only be interested in products that encourage skin re-growth - dry/cracked fingers are NOT a problem here!! Anyone got any pro-tips for that

I used to really struggle with sweaty tips indoors but have had a great result using Driclor - aluminium chloride roll-on antiperspirant. It's usually behind the counter at pharmacies - takes a week or so of daily application to start working, then just a couple of times a week for maintenance..
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Post by: tomtom on April 02, 2015, 08:45:36 pm
I'm putting my fingers in my ears between 8 and 10pm tonight!
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Post by: Sasquatch on April 02, 2015, 10:35:04 pm
Disclaimer - I know one of the guys who started this company.

http://www.a-balm.com/ (http://www.a-balm.com/)

I started using last fall and it seemed a step up from j-tree, climb-on, etc. for healing skin.  Prob placebo, but it's an option.
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Post by: DAVETHOMAS90 on April 03, 2015, 03:09:30 pm
Check out this stuff, liquid callous formula. Sounds worth a try:

http://rock-tips.com/

Also, from my earlier post:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/ruff-rider-ruff-grip-callus-builder

I'm going to experiment with some similar DIY solutions for this. One reviewer suggests using the edge of old credit cards, to mimic the pressure of a guitar string, to help build up toughened skin. I'll post back, if anything works.

 :)
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Post by: tomtom on April 03, 2015, 04:47:10 pm
Interesting the rock tips stuff... Despite it claiming to being 'different' I suspect it's some flavour of superglue.
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Post by: benno on April 07, 2015, 07:22:11 am
Quote
Question: What's in Rock-Tips?

Answer:
Rock-Tips is formulated around a non-toxic yet very powerful medical adhesive. We've added additional polymers for strength and flexibility, which gives Rock-Tips  it’s ‘skin-like’ feel – like a real callus.

So it's superglue with just enough stuff added to brand it differently, one suspects.
Title: Re: What do people put on their fingers these days?
Post by: tomtom on April 07, 2015, 02:30:16 pm
Indeed. A quick google shows that superglue rebranded and re-jigged is commonly used for wounds on cats...
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