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Title: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 10, 2012, 01:14:45 pm
Hi one and all,

My daughter and I have been climbing at the local walls since the New Year and we're having a hoot.  She's a nimble 8 year old and I'm a reasonably fit 42 year old ( years of mountain biking).  I'm doing Craggy 2 easys fairly regular and have the occasional medium.  In their hard room I am ok with 5's usually.  My girl isnt but regularly climbs with me on easier stuff without any persuasion.  I recently asked her on a Sunday how much climbing she wanted to do, her answer was 5 hours!  We did it!  Anyway as we love climbing together and because I want to see what climbing real rock is like, add in a bit of culture and our love of adventure, I was thinking of taking her over for a week at Font.  Stay in a Gite.  Climb together but not burning her out, take days off, see some history and tourist things but base it around climbing.

So my questions are around Font itself and the best circuits for beginners and fun, family circuits she (and I) can work on together?

Gites recommended?

Worth looking for a guide/coach for the trip?

Is there anywhere to rent crash mats?  Kids shoes?  She rents here at home as her feet have a lot of growing!

recommended guides covering easier stuff?

Ideas for days off other than Paris?

Cheers chaps!
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: fatneck on April 10, 2012, 02:43:06 pm
Firstly  :icon_welcome:

Secondly, great that you want to get out on rock as soon as possible!


I'm not the best person to talk to about circuits but IIRC there's a kids circuit at Roche Aux Sabots and the blue circuit at Canche Aux Merciers (sp?) is well worth going to.

The House (http://www.thehouse.fr/) is great to stay at and also hires out good quality mats but not shoes.

Blue "Off Piste" guide lists al areas although can be difficult to follow. The new one, Font a Bloc covers some areas and is very good. There a 5+6 guide coming out soon that sounds like it would be well worth getting and the old Purple guide is prob the best for circuits although outdated in style and can be difficult to work out where you are!

Personally wouldn't bother with a guide...

Fontainebleau Chateaux is well worth a look. Not sure what else there would be around although I'm sure there must be wine/champagne makers you could tour round.

Hope that's useful...
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: erm, sam on April 10, 2012, 02:51:16 pm
Beyond saying it is an excellent idea I don't have much specific help. There are lots of areas that have kids circuits, and friendly yellows.
I don't think you need a guide or coach as the circuits are usually easy to follow and climbing in Font just makes sense. Do you have any climibing pals with kids for a joint trip? Makes extra fun for the kids exploring etc without the grown ups around..
Have you considered camping? Makes it a bit more special for the kids as staying in a house is not quiet so exciting for youngsters, in my opinion. They can get busy collection chestnuts etc while you cook tea instead of them sitting around pointing out the lack of toys.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 10, 2012, 02:55:13 pm
 Thanks for the advice and I agree I don't think we'll need a guide, we'll just go and play on the rocks! 

Illhave a good look at those circuits from home later, it would be fab if we can find easy stuff for my daughter with the odd harder one for me.  I think my other half might even be tempted by a few easys! 

I expect to go a grade lower and take time to adjust from indoor to out, but as long as its fun, it'll be good! 

Any other circuits recommended?
Also the house looks cool but I was hoping for something a little more private for us.
Is the Magique book good for relative novices?
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: SA Chris on April 10, 2012, 04:03:43 pm
I think the magique guide would be a good choice for novices, probably the best suited. I thought I heard mention them making a guide to the kid's circuits too?

 If it's your first visit, it is also worth getting the IGN (french equivalent of Ordinance Suvey) Map to the area for helping you get to the different areas, as it can get a bit bewildering getting from the parking places to the actual climbing spots. You can get it from the decathlon store at the Carrefour Shopping Centre just North of Fontainebleau. They also sell cheap kids shoes which you won't be able to hire out there.

I'm trying to remember good spots for kids, and I think Diplodocus is a good choice, the place feels more like a kids adventure playground than a bouldering area, but there are couple of sterner problems there too, including a lovely jam crack! I think Cul de Chien is a good spot too, but avoid it on hot days as there isn't a lot of shade.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: fried on April 10, 2012, 05:42:58 pm
Warm weather spots

http://bleau.info/rond/ (http://bleau.info/rond/)  - Slow drying/ cool
http://bleau.info/potets/ (http://bleau.info/potets/) - perfect first spot, only easy stuff and pretty low with flat landings.
http://bleau.info/mee/ (http://bleau.info/mee/)
http://bleau.info/canon/ (http://bleau.info/canon/)
http://bleau.info/plaines/ (http://bleau.info/plaines/) - Excellent yellow
http://bleau.info/aigu/ (http://bleau.info/aigu/) - Nice spot


Cloudy days

http://bleau.info/canche/ (http://bleau.info/canche/) - quick drying, tons of easy stuff.
http://bleau.info/fin/ (http://bleau.info/fin/) - lovely spot, bit of a walk.
http://bleau.info/95.2/ (http://bleau.info/95.2/)
http://bleau.info/y/ (http://bleau.info/y/)
http://bleau.info/elephant/ (http://bleau.info/elephant/)

Just a small selection, all chosen for ease of access, relative lack of polish and wide selection of problems.
Purple guide and IGN map and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 10, 2012, 06:04:16 pm

http://bleau.info/potets/ (http://bleau.info/potets/) - perfect first spot, only easy stuff and pretty low with flat landings.


a lovely spot for easy stuff and a great place for putting up a hammock for rests in between catching lizards

http://bleau.info/images/topos/potetsjaune.pdf (http://bleau.info/images/topos/potetsjaune.pdf)

and don't forget the hardest problem there...

Le Grand K - a film where not much happens (until 3:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCQdFh7fvUk#)
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Duma on April 10, 2012, 06:04:38 pm
The yellow circuit and kids white circuit at l'elephant are good.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: fried on April 10, 2012, 06:08:11 pm
I remember coming back from potets on one of my first trips out and thinking 'le grand k' was impossible. That evening I watched Lagers video, I could totally relate to the first half  :clap2:
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 10, 2012, 06:20:22 pm
here's a kids circuit at Roche Aux Sabots and the blue circuit at Canche Aux Merciers (sp?) is well worth going to.


 :agree:

both kids circuits start very easy and low - building up to more challenging stuff, especially the bis
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 10, 2012, 07:06:37 pm
 :great:

Guys, some good sounding advice and yes IGN map is a defo and also buying climbing shoes there is well good idea.  Guess they might have crash mats too?

The idea of a hammock in the shade swung the trip for my other half, she's volunteered for lunch duty and will have a go.  I'll get her addicted somehow!  ;-).

Guess the next few nights will be investigating some of these circuits suggested! 
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 10, 2012, 07:25:21 pm
I'm just uploading 10 mins of my oldest child bouldering at Sabots and Canche Aux Merciers (and a bit at Cuvier) in August 2007 - mainly because I want to post the link to her mates on Facebook, but also to give you an idea of how much fun it can be for kids.


I'll post up the link when it's ready...
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 10, 2012, 09:26:17 pm
here you go

Sabots, Canche and then a bit of Cuvier to finish

she was 7 at the time and had decided that climbing shoes were not cool that week

https://vimeo.com/40104303
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Duma on April 10, 2012, 09:44:14 pm
brilliant! mantle queen! I particularly like the use of a brush on a stick.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 10, 2012, 10:35:19 pm
That video is probably more inspiring than an inspiring thing for my daughter.  Dude, big thank you. 
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 10, 2012, 11:12:58 pm
you're very welcome

I find with my kids that there's a huge difference between when they're "in the zone" climbing wise and when they just want to muck about collecting pine cones and digging in the sand. There's no predicting when they'll want to danse like Berhault, but when they do it's well worth dropping everything to stay out until their little limbs wear out.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: ianto9 on April 11, 2012, 12:57:38 am
I've been going to font for 18 years,took my kids for 1st time this year they're 8 and 6 they loved it.1st time i went we followed the black triangles on a map found most popular areas with ease,i love my guide books i probably spend more time looking at them than climbing these days(feels like a therapy session) Get a guide book any will do,even just to know how to get to each area,do a couple of areas a day even on rest days enjoy the smell of the place,problems to go back to etc.you can buy good cheap shoes from sabots on the weekend.tip if you can see the palace don't order drinks go a bit down the road,le cote de boeuf, nice boulangerie a few doors down aswell, cakes bread tottie.enjoy
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 11, 2012, 06:45:04 am
I know it's not the sort of thing that the lentil munching social worker types on here will approve of, but kids like Disney

It's not far from Font - I've done it in the middle of a trip and at the end of one (stay at Formule 1)

I believe that Sky TV customers are entitled to 2 free tickets to Disney (https://rewards.sky.com/skyloyalty/home/tickets-and-treats/disneyland-paris-treat/index.html) this year.

Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: SA Chris on April 11, 2012, 09:50:46 am
Guys, some good sounding advice and yes IGN map is a defo and also buying climbing shoes there is well good idea. 

I think they sell mats too, but if you are flying it might be a bit of hassle taking it back. You can hire from a few places. However, you can climb at Font without a mat, people have done it for decades! In many cases you will find you are better off without, especially if you are doing circuits, where it can be a right pain carting it about. Landing are usually soft sand and a beer towel and a piece of carpet for getting your shoes nice and clean before starting a problem are often enough.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 11, 2012, 01:33:50 pm
We'll probably still go and buy a mat or two as we're driving so should be able to squeeze them back into the car.  i suspect your right and most landings are soft but I dont mind me breaking something but not my daughter, so best to more cautious. 

I know what you mean about Disney, we've been before and hopefully its only a last resort, lol. 

I am really looking forward to this trip now.  Even my fiancee was asking me last night if she could borrow my shoes on the trip... I let her smell them and she now wants her own! 
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: SA Chris on April 11, 2012, 02:21:03 pm
Fair enough if you have space you could buy one here before you go, might be cheaper I have no idea!
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 11, 2012, 03:21:05 pm
 ;D it ain't a big car so buying a couple there might be easier then at worse its a one way loaded trip or donation to other climbers depending on cost! 
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: ianv on April 11, 2012, 03:31:31 pm
Sorry to hijack but can anyone think of any areas with easy but overhanging stuff? I am thinking of taking my son and he prefers thuggery over finesse  :great:
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: tommytwotone on April 11, 2012, 04:01:28 pm
...yes IGN map is a defo and also buying climbing shoes there is well good idea. 

Sorry, but thought I should just say - buying shoes in Font and then using them for climbing?

A recipe for sore feet / not wanting to climb surely?

Apologies for being a bit negative, they are cheaper over in Decathlon but surely you'd want them broken in before you go. If you're going to encourage the little ones to get climbing then I'd avoid sticking them in a pair of uncomfortable shoes!
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: SA Chris on April 11, 2012, 05:20:04 pm
Sorry to hijack but can anyone think of any areas with easy but overhanging stuff? I am thinking of taking my son and he prefers thuggery over finesse  :great:

Only thing I can think of is an overhanging wall with massive pockets behind and to the left of the Elephant (as you walk towards it from the parking. Must be more though.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: fried on April 11, 2012, 05:24:46 pm
Easy overhanging stuff seems to be fairly evenly spread, I've never noticed anywhere that sticks out.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: tom_greenwich on April 11, 2012, 05:44:05 pm
I have been to font a couple of times, with my 2 and 5 year old girls and the wife who doesn't climb.

Can really recommend this place for accomodation:
http://gitesdesjonquilles.free.fr/ (http://gitesdesjonquilles.free.fr/)

in terms of where to climb, there is a good kids circuit at Roche aux Sabot and a nice scrambling kids circuit on the hill above elephant.

I brought a pair of decathlon shoes for my eldest and they really hurt her feet, you get what you pay for and they are rubbish. I think the best kids shoes are the madrock monkey ones.
Title: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 11, 2012, 06:30:59 pm
Agree on the Mad Monkey's. But can't get them small enough for my six year old daughter.
She has a pair of Simonds we got in Decathlon in BCN. She's a size 11 and they are a 12(29?) and she wears them with socks and climbs around 4 or easy 5. I don't think tight shoes are too important at that age, the friction is still better than the trainers/black plimsolls she was using before. Iirc they were €25 last winter...
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 11, 2012, 07:15:50 pm
Sorry to hijack but can anyone think of any areas with easy but overhanging stuff? I am thinking of taking my son and he prefers thuggery over finesse  :great:

Only thing I can think of is an overhanging wall with massive pockets behind and to the left of the Elephant (as you walk towards it from the parking. Must be more though.


For an adult maybe, but a comfy, not to tight, pair for my daughter makes sense. 
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Nibile on April 11, 2012, 08:36:30 pm
for anyone who loves climbing, sharing it with a son must be the coolest feeling on earth.
lucky ones.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Duma on April 11, 2012, 10:54:39 pm
or daughter.  :)
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: rich d on April 12, 2012, 08:34:03 am
Or daughters ;)
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 12, 2012, 08:46:31 am
Completely agree.  I've discovered climbing late in my life having cycled for years.  My little girl did a few climbing classes and as I sat watching I thought I should have a go.  So now she does the class, I climb for an hour and then we climb together until we've had enough.  The trick is to enjoy it, not push them or burn them out, just to relax and have fun!  Encourage is the word but be subtle.  Shouting 'from the touchline' doesn't help.  Lol.

Anybody in Newcastle I can recommend climb newcastles bouldering classes. Good fun and good people. 
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 12, 2012, 11:31:28 am
  The trick is to enjoy it... relax and have fun

It'll never catch on
Title: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 12, 2012, 12:30:12 pm
  The trick is to enjoy it... relax and have fun

It'll never catch on

It's a great excuse, when you just can't get off the ground...
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Monolith on April 12, 2012, 12:45:33 pm
Like this?

Le Prou on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/37202454)
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: abarro81 on April 12, 2012, 01:07:17 pm
Can really recommend this place for accomodation:
http://gitesdesjonquilles.free.fr/ (http://gitesdesjonquilles.free.fr/)


I've stayed there before too and it was very good
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Wipey Why on April 12, 2012, 01:10:11 pm
If there are a few of you try Maison Bleau, Neil's place. I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Nibile on April 12, 2012, 01:57:28 pm
 :agree:
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Snoops on April 13, 2012, 09:15:33 am

I brought a pair of decathlon shoes for my eldest and they really hurt her feet, you get what you pay for and they are rubbish.

My daughter (6yrs) climbs routes and boulders in these - never had a problem. We don;t get them tight/tight though.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 14, 2012, 07:59:20 am
not one of mine, but a vid that gives an idea of what Rocher des Potets is like

Fontainebleau bouldering October 2011 (1) - Rocher des Potets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mi6Sy7grI0#)
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: psychomansam on April 14, 2012, 09:16:24 am
  The trick is to enjoy it... relax and have fun

It'll never catch on

Genius = wad

Although, actually, Font is the place i manage this the most.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 20, 2012, 01:43:39 pm
 :clap2:   :2thumbsup:   :clap2:

I am sooo stoked, desjonquilles gite has space and I've just confirmed a booking, they do mats too, so brilliant! 

Mucho thanks to all that have helped sort out this trip for me and my girls. 

Awesome. 

Aint the internet great.

Wahooooo
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: SA Chris on April 20, 2012, 02:31:45 pm
Enjoy, and don't forget the pain au chocolat.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: tom_greenwich on April 20, 2012, 03:37:45 pm
Brilliant, have fun. There is a great patisserie in Ury, we went there is the morning and got pastry, baguette and pizza for the whole day
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: SA Chris on April 20, 2012, 04:23:26 pm
No climbing then? :)
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 20, 2012, 08:34:27 pm
In 2006 there was an extremely attractive woman who worked in Les Six Troenes in Ury

*sigh*
Title: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 20, 2012, 09:13:53 pm
In 2006 there was an extremely attractive woman who worked in Les Six Troenes in Ury

*sigh*

6 years? She's probably a Grandmother now...
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 21, 2012, 10:09:15 am
this thread had a few ideas

might be out of date

http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,9329.0.html (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,9329.0.html)
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 29, 2012, 08:22:42 pm
 :dance1:

Well... The Gite is booked (Jonquilles)!  The guidebook has arrived (Magique)!  The crew are primed and ready to go!  I've picked some likely first circuits when we get there and most of it was from advice on here (Canche/Diplodocus/Sabots/Elephant)!  (I'm doomed!  :-)) just got to get the girls some shoes and book ferry/tunnel and jobs a good un! 

Thanks all! 
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: SA Chris on April 30, 2012, 10:49:50 am
http://www.rockrun.com/products/Mad-Rock-Mad-Monkey.html (http://www.rockrun.com/products/Mad-Rock-Mad-Monkey.html)
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on April 30, 2012, 04:45:11 pm
Fab spot... Tried some on sat week and think I'll leave buying hers until June as she's too big for current size and too small for next!  Lol.  Typical!  But at for link, good price for kids shoes. 
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: tom_greenwich on April 30, 2012, 05:05:14 pm
damn, just paid full price for a pair of mad monkeys

For what it's worth my daughter has had a pair of boreals, cheap decathlons and we also tried the evolv vengas, she found all of them uncomfortable as they dug into the back of the ankle too much. The mad monkeys seem much softer and had adjustable ankle strap
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on July 25, 2012, 09:13:16 am
 Well this is the week we're here in font.  So far we've done the Enfant circuits at L'Elephant twice and also the one at Roche Aux Sabots.  Both good young kids circuits! 

Pics and more report later. The sun is shinning! 
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: fried on July 25, 2012, 05:02:59 pm
My niece (10) highly recommends the white circuit at Apremont bizon. It's all the rest of us can manage in the heat too at the moment.

We'll check out Rocher canon and Rocher st Germain white circuits soon. I'll report back then.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Ti_pin_man on July 25, 2012, 09:41:53 pm
 :punk:Our last full day today and the car said it was 33 degrees and we just hit the pool. A much more sensible decision.  Short report will follow when we're home, for parents of youngsters who want to climb... There doesn't seem much published. 
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Davo on April 11, 2023, 08:47:40 am
Thought I would resurrect this thread rather than start another. For anyone with young children thinking of going to Fontainebleau and wondering where the kids can climb the following is my humble experience and recommendations from being there with a 9yr old. 

Roche aux Sabots

Amazing white circuit, easy to find and easy to follow. Highly recommended and Harry managed all 40 problems fairly easily and it was a great introduction to the style of climbing.

Beauvais Nains

Absolutely brilliant for kids. Easy to find white, yellow and Orange circuits which are all in the same general area. The yellow was perfect for our son. A bit out of the way in comparison with some of the other areas but still only 20mins from Arbonne la Foret.

Canche aux Merciers
Good yellow circuit and a really good area where as a parent I could also do some problems I wanted to do. Hard to follow the white circuit there.

Isatis
We only did a few individual yellow problems here and they were generally good. Was very busy though.

Elephant
I thought this would be the best area and it looks like it on arrival with a massive sand pit area to start. However the kids circuit was very hard to follow and the landings were not great. Overall it was our least favourite place which was the opposite to my initial thoughts.

Lastly we stayed at Arbonne la foret which was an ideal location and minimized the driving each day and meant I could nip out in the morning or evening myself without being massive disruptive in terms of time and driving etc.

Anyway, hope this helps anyone else wanting to go with a family etc

Cheers

Dave

Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: owensum on April 11, 2023, 03:13:02 pm
Don't have kids, but isn't there a good kids circuit at Franchard? West of Isatis? And I've seen lots of kids doing the mountain circuit at Cuisiniere, tho there's a couple bits you'd want to skip due to exposure.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: BrutusTheBear on April 12, 2023, 10:09:21 am
A couple of recommendations from last summer... purely for the wildlings.

Franchard Ermitage - Excellent children's circuit, really accessible for beginners, my chidlers (8 and 11) did the whole thing trainers and loved it.  Good picnic spot and Mrs BtB whom uses a mobility scooter was able to access the area with the circuit.  Followed up with a walk out to the viewing point for me and the kids (there are some largely forgotten adult circuits/ boulders) en route including a big boulder with orange problems and a top roping bolt in place (my son climbed it sans rope with me behind him for confidence).

Feuillardière - lovely spot with 3 kids circuits for ages 3+, 5+ and 8+.  Perfect range of problems for a chidler friendly afternoon of bouldering.
Title: Re: Fontainebleau advice (beginner plus daughter)
Post by: Jono.r23 on April 12, 2023, 12:01:42 pm
It’s years since i went but there was a nice (if slightly overgrown) enfant circuit at Apremont. Great bit of mantle practice on lots of small rounded blobs. Inevitably the child we were with found this all too easy and in the end out-phyched us insisting on heading out again on the last day when the olds were battered and broken. Good times
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