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bouldering / Re: UK men who have bouldered >=8B recently...
« Last post by remus on Today at 08:07:14 am »
Oh cool, didn't realise they'd suggested a grade, I've bumped it down to E8 on CH per the current opinions.
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bouldering / Re: UK men who have bouldered >=8B recently...
« Last post by andy moles on Today at 07:11:50 am »
Good knowledge, he's on the list. Also noticed he's done Eternal Fall so a double addition to the boulder and trad lists!

I think James and Angus said they'd give Eternal Fall E8, fwiw.
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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: BMC Resolutions shout out 📣
« Last post by Offwidth on Yesterday at 06:26:22 pm »
We will all see soon enough, when the AGM papers are released  later this month. What could possibly be the point of telling lies within that timetable? Simon has outlined the approximate losses already (based on leaks)... he just forgot to take into account the cost savings and extra commercial income.

Council saw extensive information on provisional finances for the 2023 accounts two months back (with way more detail than normal). These would have been public already if a more complex audit than normal hadn't thrown a spanner in the works.
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bouldering / Re: UK men who have bouldered >=8B recently...
« Last post by remus on Yesterday at 06:02:52 pm »
Good knowledge, he's on the list. Also noticed he's done Eternal Fall so a double addition to the boulder and trad lists!
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bouldering / Re: UK men who have bouldered >=8B recently...
« Last post by Ross Barker on Yesterday at 04:20:19 pm »
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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: BMC Resolutions shout out 📣
« Last post by Oldmanmatt on Yesterday at 02:09:56 pm »
The 2022 annual report summarises GB climbing income and expenditure in pie charts (although this didn’t include their share of non-core office costs): it's why I linked it alongside the 2022 accounts.

Yes, 2023 accounts will be much more detailed. However, Council have been told we can't produce anything close to equivalent detailed information for 2022. Once Council were informed this we were stuck, as we can't accept a motion that we know will place big extra workloads on an understaffed finance team, on a very difficult task which might even prove to be impossible to achieve. All this to highlight financial management wasn't tight enough in 2022: something we already know.


Thanks for taking the time to respond. I don’t have a problem personally with the motions not going to the AGM but I don’t think it has been handled well and certainly the concerns raised by Simon’s motions are pretty valid.

I do hope that the accounts and explanation of the financial information are more detailed this time around. I am in a small mountaineering club and our members would not be happy with the lack of clarity and detail if we presented our accounts to them in this manner.

Also just to be clear I have no intention of leaving the BMC and I didn’t think the subsidiary idea was good. I just want better financial clarity and for GBClimbing to be financially self supporting etc

Cheers Dave

The most polite and reasonable UKB poster, has just echoed much of what has been, more stridently, posted by others, though out various threads on both channels.

I’m sorry Dave, they’re not listening and hide behind weak excuses.
It’s obviously far worse than is being admitted. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: BMC Resolutions shout out 📣
« Last post by Davo on Yesterday at 10:34:57 am »
The 2022 annual report summarises GB climbing income and expenditure in pie charts (although this didn’t include their share of non-core office costs): it's why I linked it alongside the 2022 accounts.

Yes, 2023 accounts will be much more detailed. However, Council have been told we can't produce anything close to equivalent detailed information for 2022. Once Council were informed this we were stuck, as we can't accept a motion that we know will place big extra workloads on an understaffed finance team, on a very difficult task which might even prove to be impossible to achieve. All this to highlight financial management wasn't tight enough in 2022: something we already know.


Thanks for taking the time to respond. I don’t have a problem personally with the motions not going to the AGM but I don’t think it has been handled well and certainly the concerns raised by Simon’s motions are pretty valid.

I do hope that the accounts and explanation of the financial information are more detailed this time around. I am in a small mountaineering club and our members would not be happy with the lack of clarity and detail if we presented our accounts to them in this manner.

Also just to be clear I have no intention of leaving the BMC and I didn’t think the subsidiary idea was good. I just want better financial clarity and for GBClimbing to be financially self supporting etc

Cheers Dave
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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: BMC Resolutions shout out 📣
« Last post by Offwidth on Yesterday at 10:29:10 am »
Pie charts really help some people, really annoy others, and many sit in between.

A fun pro-pie blog (with some  anti-pie views referenced):

https://www.displayr.com/why-pie-charts-are-better-than-bar-charts/
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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: BMC Resolutions shout out 📣
« Last post by abarro81 on Yesterday at 06:38:49 am »
The BMC response does a very poor job of explaining that position, or even taking a swag at how much time that would be. Doesn't inspire much confidence that the approach to communication has changed with the change in leadership. Also, far more importantly, can someone please teach whoever writes the reports that pie charts are shit for basically everything.
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news / Re: The inevitable E grade thread
« Last post by Nemo on Yesterday at 02:20:00 am »
Should have added a bit of small print to the above before it gets pointed out.
As said previously on here, whilst for the most part you'll get the same answer whichever style you pick to compare routes with, sometimes there's a difference, in which case roughly:

for routes roughly under E7 compare via onsight (because noone gives a toss if it's a bit easier to headpoint a few E2's because almost everyone is at least attempting to onsight them) - which gives the completely standard E grade definition in most guidebooks.

And for routes roughly over E7 compare via headpoint (because quite a lot of very hard routes would be ridiculous to try to onsight, need a variety of unusual gear etc - and noone really gives a toss if a few E11's would actually be more like E20 to onsight, as noone is going to try and onsight them - anyone going anywhere near flashing or onsighting really hard routes tends to pick their routes very carefully and have a certain amount of knowledge as to whether attempting such a thing is a remotely good idea (usually obvious by just going and looking at the route).

Sure, around E5-E8 there's lots of people trying to onsight, flash and headpoint, but there isn't some grade where it all falls to pieces as mostly you get a very similar answer as to what number it should be whichever style you pick to compare with.
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