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the shizzle => equipment => Topic started by: James Malloch on October 21, 2017, 06:45:50 pm
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I'm in the market for a lightweight waterproof that stuffs down very small and can be easily chucked in the top of a bag. My mountain equipment something or other (Lahore?) is great but it's a bit bigger than i would like for walking etc when you don't expect it to rain but want something just in case.
I tried the Rab spark which I liked but my girlfriend has it and isn't overly impressed. Any thoughts would be welcomed.
The other option is a cheap plastic pack away thing from decathlon but thought I'd see if anyone recommends anything first...
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Been using a Montane ultralight waterproof since before they became BMC sponsers :P Decent bit of kit for occasional use, packs into a net bag about the size of a tennis ball. My cycling one doesn't have a hood but think they do some with hoods. Not sure what the current version is.
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I used the superlight Montane one for a while but it was very sweaty. Friends swear by the superlight Berghaus one, looks great but not so cheap.
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Don't get anything Event (if it still exists). My Rab Event is the biggest piesce of shit I ever bought. Luckily I don't go out in the rain in it. Good windcheater though.
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I've got a Berghaus one (hand-me-down from a mate) and an Arc'teryx one (£50 off sport pursuit). Neither are properly waterproof but are windproof and will do against a shower. They both pack down small enough to clip to the back of a harness and climb Gogarth E5s etc, or will stuff into one of the back pockets on a cycling shirt.
For a proper waterproof that is fairly light I rate the Marmot precip. Bit heavier than event but not shit. I saw a test recently where it came out better than full weight gore tex.
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I have got one of those Gore shake dry jackets, which was 30% off in a Millets sale. Not used it yet and I hope that will remain the case.
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For a sub 200gms reasonably priced fully taped seamed jacket, a lot are made from Pertex Shield. I have had a Rab one for five years (similar to the Spark) and it's had a lot of use the past 2 as my fell running shell. It's OK but not very breathable but then I've never found a hard shell that is. I'll replace it with an OR Helium as they're relatively cheap and nothing that light is that durable or waterproof. The Montane/OMM jackets have nice features, but are designed for skinny runners, so are very fitted and size small. This website has a good range listed by weight:
https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/mens-clothing-c1/mens-waterproof-shell-c51/shell-jackets-c203
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Interested in answers as I’m looking for something similar. Currently have montane eVent superfly. Good design, shit material: never very waterproof and delaminated after disappointingly little use.
Also have a montane ultralight. It’s very light and waterproof. Good to stuff in a day pack in case of unexpected storms on long rock routes. Not recommended for regular use as it’s as breathable as a well-cut bin liner.
Anyone used a neoshell jacket?
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A bit heavier (only a bit - 300g) and a bit left field:-
http://www.columbiasportswear.co.uk/mens-outdry-ex-light-shell-1711881.html?cgid=technology-outdryExtreme&dwvar_1711881_variationColor=010#prefn1=activity&prefn2=productClass&prefv1=Trail+Running&prefv2=Jackets&start=0 (http://www.columbiasportswear.co.uk/mens-outdry-ex-light-shell-1711881.html?cgid=technology-outdryExtreme&dwvar_1711881_variationColor=010#prefn1=activity&prefn2=productClass&prefv1=Trail+Running&prefv2=Jackets&start=0)
It looks odd and the hood's a bit crap but it is the first jacket I have had in ages that stays waterproof. I'm quite impressed. It's not too bad on breathability, less breathable than goretex, but it does breathe.
worth a look!
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Thanks for all the suggestions so far. After a brief look around online I'm liking the sound of the Montane, OR Helium and potentially an OMM one.
The others look great also but as the price creeps up I'm struggling to justify it given how much I've spent on trips and kit recently...
The ultralite website it really useful, thanks! Many of the suggestions seem to be on there too which made searching a log easier!
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I noticed an arc'teryx jacket for sale on Sportpursuit and found a fairly useful side by side review of similar lightweight offerings by Outdoor Gear Lab. It might have been aimed at runners.
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I certainly found that review but I think it was a group test that included the Incendo (which is lighter), the one I was looking at.
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I've got a OR Helium, found it in TK MAxx which was a total win.
It's my "go-to" piece for chucking in the bag if I'm going out on a long run, on the bike, or climbing. I wouldn't chose to go out in a downpour (i.e. rainy hillwalking) and while it is fairly breathable, it is a single-layer so feels clammy next to the skin.
Packs nicely into it's own stuff pocket. So far it's not showing much sign of wear, which is impressive for something so light.
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Alpkit Gravitas? Very lightweight and packable. I've not used one but it's something I've got my eye on.
I've a Marmot Precip that's getting on a bit now but has been fine. Not the lightest or most packable, but not a heavy weight either and was a reasonable price when I bought it.
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I certainly found that review but I think it was a group test that included the Incendo (which is lighter), the one I was looking at.
I've got an Incendo Paul. It's as light as the Berghaus one but better designed.
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Good to note although they've run out of my size with a hood:
https://www.sportpursuit.com/search?s=incendo
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There were very few items in that sale that had sizes other than a medium. I gambled on a medium Kappa and am slowly accepting it's too big for me.
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I certainly found that review but I think it was a group test that included the Incendo (which is lighter), the one I was looking at.
I've got an Incendo Paul. It's as light as the Berghaus one but better designed.
How is it for water resistance? Would I be soaked after a 20 minute walk home from work in the rain?
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It's not a waterproof jkt, no taped seams and just a dwr treatment. It's sold as a windshell.
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I think that goes for most of these doesn't it? If you want waterproof you need to go up in bulk and weight to Precip or event.
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Nope. All of those shells listed as 'waterproof' have taped seams. Anyone racing (fell, mountain marathons etc) have to carry gear with taped seams hence manufacturers/marketing blurb has to be clear. Whether or not a super light 'race' shell that's taped is any more waterproof than a decent windshell after 30 mins of heavy rain is doubtful!