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the shizzle => shootin' the shit => music, art and culture => Topic started by: andy popp on September 06, 2006, 01:41:55 pm
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Inspired by the guilty secrets and overrated artists threads, what are your unsung gems. Despite typical teenage years listening to the Velvets/Lou Reed I never listened to any of John Cale's solo albums. Have bought Vintage Violence and Paris 1919 in the last month and both are brilliant, though in completely unexpected ways.
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my old 8 valve 'grale, which in this piccy is now sporting a 16 valve bonnet :-\
(http://www.whalley-integrale.uk.com/s501ph/8valvep36n1.jpg)
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Not quite what I meant, but I see what you mean
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Soapy I don't often get jealous of others, but for you I'll make an exception. Sweet motor.
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goya
http://www.whitecube.com/images/artists/djc/djc_lrg_008.jpg
jake and dinos
http://eeweems.com/goya/great_deeds_700.jpg
NOF-ISH
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With you on the John Cale stuff. Don't actually own any but every time I hear it I think its better than the Velvets - Paris 1919 was on the radio on an unsung classics ting recently.
Other stuff that doesn't often get the mad props -
any Chameleons/ Mark Burgess stuff
Durutti Column - guitar and other machines especially.
Spacemen 3 - Perfect prescription
Nice car.
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Flux of Pink Indians - The fucking cunts are treating us like pricks. LP. Cracking artwork, huh?
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/Flux-Of-Pink-Indians-The-Fucking-Cu.jpg)
Crass-esque, genuinely hideous music. Anyone who can play music as ugly as this right from the off is a brave performer indeed. They didn't make it easy for themselves, but they did provide the sountrack to Thatchers' murder (should it ever etc..). I'm guessing it's universally neglected...
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my old 8 valve 'grale, which in this piccy is now sporting a 16 valve bonnet :-\
(http://www.whalley-integrale.uk.com/s501ph/8valvep36n1.jpg)
You do realise that if that really is your motor a quick check on the old ahem. system and I'll have your whole history laid out before me . . .
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does the prospect of such unlimited power excite you then, dear tam?
oooh, i've spotted a dribble of pre-cum
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i digress, so therefore propose:
stump (http://www.kevhopper.dsl.pipex.com/Stump.html) - quirk out
(http://www.kevhopper.dsl.pipex.com/Littlestumps/stumpquirk.jpg)
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Bingo!
Fucking brilliant, unique, dangerous, weird, humourous ace band. Stump bring the rock.
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(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/170.jpg)
Beaut'.
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Stump were awesome. I saw them play at Huddersfield Poly in 87. I got a t-shirt with three men carrying a boat on their head I think. I've got a photo somewhere.
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i've always loved 'zombie birdhouse' (iggy pop), even though it was years down the line from his punk heyday, and a bit 80's
also 'burning blue soul' (matt 'the the' johnson) is a classic downer romp - think it was his first album
and of course 'the whitey album' (sonic youth)
on a fillum thread 'blue in the face' (paul auster/wayne wang)
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Third World War
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/FINALWARsmall.jpg)
Only made 2LP's in the early 70's before breaking up in 1972. This is their 2nd and easiest to find. Forget vinyl.
Wiki Entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World_War_(band))
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too too obscure houdi! :bow:
i'd take my hat off to you but i don't think i've got any left ;)
read up on main protagonist terry stamp; now should i punt out twelve notes for this? (http://www.burningshed.com/index.asp?page=details&main=vocal&label=9&id=209)
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Anyone else into Krautrock? Can, Neu, Faust etc?
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I once saw a German heavy metal band in munich- the lead singer spent his entire time lying down.
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Despite the name, Krautrock isn't really rock and a long way from metal.
Those of you into the underground/ obscure/ avant garde should check out Julian Cope's 'unsung (http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/)' page on his website. More stuff than you could ever find the time to listen to, and his writing is brilliant.
The underground is in better shape than it's been for years - and greedy for the prizes. Today's underground collective chant would probably go something like: "Where are we going?" "Everywhere!" "When are we going?" "Now!"
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Anyone else into Krautrock?
My best bargain ever was an original pressing of this, mint for 1 pound.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/clear.jpg)
Great band. Lots of history. Check out www.faust-pages.com for a gajillion MP3s, all full length.
sorry. got the Third World War pic wrong, here's their 2nd and last album:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/tww2cd.jpg)
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UK 70's blues rock. They rock lots.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/523195.jpg)
They pretty much tore the blues apart with this LP, it stands up well after 30 years. Not long back got a new 180g virgin vinyl copy with fantastic gatefold photography. You can still find their stuff.
This is also a fab LP that's been recently re-issued by some Italians:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/719033.jpg)
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goya - el perro semihundido
(http://www.spanisharts.com/prado/goya/perro.jpg)
A disturbing and undecipherable painting. It belongs to the 14 "black paintings", and it was painted on the wall of one of the Quinta del Sordo's (the House of the Deaf Man) rooms. There's no biblical or mythological inspiration, it could be possibly an expression of his own anguish.
..talking of personal metaphors
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(http://www.cdquest.com/images/album_art/sorted/0045/7782/0045778200191.jpg)
i like it, not sure how popular it is.
p.s hello everyone, hope you're all doing ok. :wave:
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Yo FOAM, I've already plugged this in ffffffunky fresh beats :)
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Scottish artist ('32 - '00) Euan Uglow. No-one painted light on skin quite like Mr. Uglow. Don't let him slip you by:
Double Square
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/artwork_images_707_171397_Euan-Uglo.jpg)
And I'm gonna continue bigging this book until every last one of you has read it:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/Jacket.jpg)
Now look you! (http://www.ralphmag.org/jack-blackZK.html)
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aye, apart from freud of course, his retrospective a couple of years ago was simply stunning
anyhow, from everyone's favourite waffen ss recruit:
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0099483505.02._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1102331423_.jpg)
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Fuck me Soapy, you at the spy hole again? I was gonna post that 20 minutes ago, but thought all would know it.
I used to work in an antiquarian bookshop when I was young, The Tin Drum Bookshop. So great a writer, even more interesting considering his recent Wehrmacht revelation.
Freud - The King of Crust. Love him almost as much as Bacon.
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so, that was your wrinkled retainer flaccidly poking through the glory hole in bangor public bogs...
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Too much coffee & holding my breath for body tension crucified said retainer a while back. I know better than to unleash the Grapes of Wrath in public. Time & tide etc..
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XTC - The Black Sea.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/xtc_front.jpg)
Not listened to enough this band. Shame Andy Partridges stage-fright killed off XTCs' live ambitions... Tracks like Living Through Another Cuba: so goddam good it's untrue. Great musicians across the board.
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are'nt they a bit ancient for you.in fact they are so old i've even seen them live.
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I'm also a huge Beethoven fan Webbo - alas I never caught him live. What's the recording date got to do with anything? Quality is timeless. I'm jealous you have seen them live.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/alice.jpg)
Black Juju! We Still Got A Long Way To Go! Timeless classics Webbo, timeless classics.
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one of the first records i bought when i moved on from my skinhead/reggae days was schools out.
the cover was a desk that opened and had a pair of paper nickers inside.
he's a bit of a lad that alice cooper.
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That's one very cool 1st rock LP dude.
Alas my 1st purchase was a 7" single: The Chicken Song by Spitting Image...
Hold a chicken in the air - stick a deckchair up your nose - fly a jumbo jet & bury all your clothes. Ad nauseum... :-[
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Filling the space between prog & jazz rock from '81:
(http://www.debaser.it/resize.aspx?path=/files/2005/200581818.19.35ThisHeat1.jpg&width=250) Forget vinyl. There is a CD reissue.
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Anyone else heard/like Swell Maps? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swell_Maps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swell_Maps)
Birmingham based 'punk' (i.e. not really punk at all) band, heavily influenced by Can etc. They released a bundle of singles and two albums between 1977 and 1980. With the death of Nikki Sudden earlier this year, their back catalogue has been re-mastered and released. I had a cassette from the early '80s taped from a mates older brother and was delighted to be able to finally pick up the singles in a nice box set.
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oh, good call FD :great:
here's some of their stuff > http://hype.non-standard.net/playlist/artist/Swell+Maps/asx/1/today.asx
i remember borrowing a mates copy of whatever happens next, heh, pogoing down the youth club ::)
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The magnificent Gene Marshall & Jimmy carter Says Yes. Certainly one of my favourite songs ever.
http://www.aquariusrecords.org (can't link direct to the clip on this site: to listen to a clip visit the link on the left & type Jimmy Carter into the search engine. The Stream of this song is at the bottom of the page of results.)
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Never heard that one before (although the opening break is very familiar and no doubt features on an obscure Ultramagnetic/Pete Rock/Black Sheep etc. track lurking in my collection somewhere)..
Aquarius records are ace (I had to restrain myself from spending a fortune when I was in San Fran) but I always try to support this (Glasgow based ) lot though if I'm looking to purchase something.... www.volcanictongue.com..
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American proto-punk power-electronics duo Suicide (http://www.limbos.org/suicide/)
Myspace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=37221712). This duo scare the shit out of me. Listen to Frankie Teardrop & you'll get my drift.
The eponymous LP is brilliant. Hugely influencial. I hope people out there still listen to these freaks.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/suicide.jpg)
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there ya go houdi > suicide - ghost rider (http://www.schauecker.com/musik/Suicide_Ghost-rider.mp3)
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You've got a web cam on me - I know it.
I was listening to Ghost Rider as I read your post. Fuck off ye perv!
PS. what is that site Schauecke?
PS Underground. If you like the JC says yes. Find an LP called Beat of the Traps.
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it's a german blogishness > http://www.schauecker.com/musik
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Would that be Swiss German. . . ? :wave:
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a boltneck's a boltneck to me :whistle:
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A veritable Titan of Japanese Imperialist Freakitude.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/n126178.jpg)
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i'll not disagree with you there houdi, but i think he was a bit of a cunt :whistle:
for japanese novellas of the samurai period, eiji yoshikawa's fictional serialisation of the life of miyamoto musashi takes some beating; a little simplistic and devoid of modern mores, but none the worse for it
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I think he was a bit of a cunt :whistle:
I prefer atavistic coward. But his writing had a rare and sensitive beauty. Something he lacked in life.
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Another from the vaults.
I'm thinking this has been criminally overlooked: The Stranglers - Black & White. I love me a massive swelling baroque & roll organ.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/312434.jpg)
There was a time, y'know, when Spielberg was far from shite. You'll laugh your cotton sox off, ah tell thee!
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/jhjhuh.jpg)
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Hollywood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can remember going to the drive in and laughing my ass off at that when I was about 12. Can't see it anywhere on DVD.
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0002JK77K.02._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1132830076_.jpg)
Got this on DVD recently. Whimsical, and not as funny as I remember it, but still class.
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As if by magic...
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/mr_benn.jpg)
Often the last thing I see before crawling under my rock for the night.
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1972 was a great year: not only was it the year I was shat into the pan - but also the year this was released.
(http://www.songlyricscollection.com/lyrics/z/zz-top/rio-grande-mud/rio-grande-mud.jpg)
ZZ Top could have been the perfect rock trio. There was a time when they were well on the way to achieving that aim (and then it all went wrong). A great slice of Southern Americana.
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Leona Anderson (with Tony Burrello) - Rats in My Room (http://redirect.iodalliance.com/download_track.php?id=8C80470797E7E56C05BFC4E1B39C09074E2A3928D41C1A763778417859236EF279B53073DBB321F011E5238917378E17)
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(http://www.songlyricscollection.com/lyrics/z/zz-top/rio-grande-mud/rio-grande-mud.jpg)
That Rio Grande picture reminds me... I heard a story that Crispin Waddy was once arrested by US Immigration for trying to enter the country from Mexico by wading the Rio Grande despite having a valid visa. I was told that he just fancied doing it for a laugh and spent a night in a Texan jail as a reward for his daftness. Anyone know if it's true?
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ZZ Top could have been the perfect rock trio. There was a time when they were well on the way to achieving that aim (and then it all went wrong). A great slice of Southern Americana.
Their downfall was that people started to realise they were quite good and they got popular. Lowlight was them appearing in a Michael J Fox movie.
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1972 was a great year: not only was it the year I was shat into the pan - but also the year this was released.
(http://www.songlyricscollection.com/lyrics/z/zz-top/rio-grande-mud/rio-grande-mud.jpg)
ZZ Top could have been the perfect rock trio. There was a time when they were well on the way to achieving that aim (and then it all went wrong). A great slice of Southern Americana.
I always take this CD with me to the US to play in the SUV :great:
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You really need to experience I Wanna Love You Tender in all it's 3:43 mins of glory. The choreography is out of this world.
Check out the vid @ near the bottom of this (http://www.gilgamesh.org.uk/) page.
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how could you pass up strachan getting otter nips on the humber (http://www.gilgamesh.org.uk/2006/05/08/otters-up-the-arsehole/)?
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Come back from hols to find this thread making me feel completely mainstream! Anyway, for riffs and righteousness, I can't do better than recommend the MC5's Kick Out the Jams. Lost without trace nowadays in terms of recognition seem to be the American hardcore acts that dominated my listening in the 80s. Was in Tottenham Court Virgin store the other month (not exactly specialist but v. big) and there wasn't even a space in the racks for Husker Du. I also have very fond memories of extremely chaotic Butthole Surfer gigs and a blinder by firehose at the Duke of York (?) Leeds
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80's americana is just fine andy, post up some links!!
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Looking forward to seeing this film:
http://www.vh1.com/movies/movie/290070/moviemain.jhtml
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Check out Ian MacKaye and his Minor Threat crew back in the day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6vOiyMi8l0&mode=related&search=
That's a proper gig; and wait for the fat bloke moshing at the end too.
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Quality, can't wait to see that. On the subject of music history DVD's, has anyone seen Made in Sheffield? Think it was produced by Slackjaw. Interesting history of Sheff's music scene.
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God, that brings back some memories. I'd forgotten this tale. The morning after the aforementioned firehose gig in Leeds I was sitting in a car on petrol station forecourt in Stoke when the drummer (George Hurley?) walked right by. I couldn't believe my eyes. A very friendly chat followed.
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Andy - You might be interested in the recent Minutemen documentary 'We Jam Econo...' it's really good.
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Definitely - where's it available. Minutemen, Meatpuppets, anything on SST basically. I had an interesting SST album of instrumentals called No Mall or something once. Had some pretty dire stuff too - an album called Cop by band called Swans. A deliberate attempt to make something as unplesant as possible I think. Bad Brains were another good band though.
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Lets hear it for the mighty Bad Brains - one of the greatest live bands ever.
http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,46941,00.html
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(http://cousincreep.com/shorttermmp3loss/image/lwb.jpg)
This is AWESOME. Some helpful UKB chap helped me find it
Free mp3 somewhere if I remember rightly!
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try here
http://www.lifewithoutbuildings.com/newtown_sydney.mp3
and here
http://www.lifewithoutbuildings.com/leanover_acoustic.mp3
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I managed 15 seconds of "Leanover"...
EDIT - I'll try again in a mo'... ;)
RE-EDIT - OK, I managed 31 seconds this time!
RE-RE-EDIT - OK, nice use of repetition in Sydney... But their drummer blows from the deepest well of blowage.
RE-RE-RE-EDIT - Love the coverart mind!
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Swans.
One time, Swans were a great band at the forefront of industrial music. They ultimately turned into a hideous maudlin cabaret. All very tragic.
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Caspar david friedrich. 1774 - 1840. Utterly original, a true maveric. He paints isolation & Darkness so well.
(http://www.geoform.net/data/members/b/markbrown/brown_WinterreiseOrig_inter.jpg)
I adore this painting.Monastery burial gound under snow
(http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/his/CoreArt/art/resourcesd/fri_clcem.jpg)
The Tree of Crows
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/The_tree_of_crows.jpg)
Goya-esque? Moench am Meer
(http://www.msubillings.edu/art/images/Neoclassicism%20&%20Romanticism/Caspar_David_Friedrich_Monk_by_the_Sea_1809-10.jpg)
And my favourite: Sea of ice.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Caspar_David_Friedrich_006.jpg/800px-Caspar_David_Friedrich_006.jpg)
To my mind, this man transformed landscapes, more so than Turner. I can sink into his paintings at will.
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Thanks Houdini, I'd not seen all of those before. But I worry for you, I'm not sure so much German romanticism is good for a man's soul in the long run.
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Fear not Herr Popp, that which does not destroy me, makes me stronger. ;)
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See, that's exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about.
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But of course you are aware that: Certain defects are necessary for the existence of individuality.
And surely you have heard: I will listen to anyone's convictions, but pray keep your doubts to yourself. (J. W. von Goethe) ;)
Q: Have you no time for Sturm und Drang?
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..none..
(http://www.artcyclopedia.com/images/Moreau.jpg)
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A project of identification. Origin to keep it simple. We bend and break to this longing. Outlive the state we live in. Outlive the policy. And there is nothing to kill for. It's too simple to explain so we agree to disagree on origin. We bend and break to this longing. So count me in. I wear the colours. I'm all symbols. Locked in symbols. Count me in. Let's do some damage. Originate this. Origin of this. Nothing is new here. It just got clear to us. There is no place of departure. The project of identification. Origin keeps it simple. We bend and break to this longing. So count me in. I wear the colours. I'm all symbols. Locked in symbols. So count me in. Let's do some damage. Originate this. Origin of this.
Barra Head - Origin.
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..pessimist poetry
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Symbolize this!
(http://modculture.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/steptoe.jpg)
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Barra head - on Bernaray, one of the best sea cliffs in Britain, and pretty undeveloped. What that has to do with poetry I don't know, hasn't been inhabited for 200 years, unless it was written by a miserable lighthouse keeper.
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Barra Head are a stunning Danish rock trio. They really are very fine indeed.
What you read are the lyrics to a song called Origin from their debut LP called Songs and Departures. Which singlehandedly got me through 6 weeks of foul fabric work/culture shock one time in the UAE.
You really should check them out. Not extreme as you would imagine with one of my tips. They are the best live act I have been lucky to see in YEARS. 10/10.
www.playrec.dk MP3s can be found here.
The 2nd LP We Are Your Numbers is also exceptional. Pantontino should back me up on this who was begging for more when I lent the 2 CD's I own to him.
I posted it as Moreau is a symbolist (what Soaps posted. RE "I'm all symbols.") Kapeesh?
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Houdi speaks the truth; dey is a cool band.
Yob's description of Barra Head (the crag) did fire me up for a visit. When I was on Mingulay with him and various other Llanberisites a few years ago we all stared wistfully across to this intriguing island and wondered what it was like on the other side.
(http://special.st-andrews.ac.uk/saspecial/image.php?i=3&r=1&t=4&x=1)
(http://special.st-andrews.ac.uk/saspecial/image.php?i=5&r=1&t=4&x=1)
The lack of fresh water sounds like a real bastard though.
JB, have you climbed there?
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Aye, Barra Head (the crag) sounds more neglected than the band. Bet that rock's rough as fook to the touch.
(Song lyrics often appear tosh in print. I know a few bands that refuse to write them up as they can appear trite on paper and can take a little away from the discovery of what someone is singing. Have you ever read the lyrics to a song and felt somewhat letdown to know that what you though was is in fact not at all?)
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Sadly not - went on a boat trip round Mingulay this summer which got me very excited about all these islands. Be good to get a big crew up there next year, need to befriend someone with a boat ideally...
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Zoe Brown?
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On the subject of Barra and neglected masterpieces I give you Granville Bantock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_Bantock
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000002ZOF.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
His Hebridean Symphony is a wonderful piece of music...
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The perfect aural equivalent to the Casper David Friedrich paintings must be Schubert's Wintereisse - Winter Journey. A similarly dark and desolate portrayl of inescapable human alienation. And very beautiful. But, the images created by these works do disturb me somewhat. In youth at least, this way lies an egoism that can all to easily shade into narcissism, nihilism and justifications for destruction. They suggest a purity of living that is unattainable - and that too is a dangerous ideal.
Before anyone sends me to Pseuds' Corner or gives me -ve karma this is all by way of (a pretty poor) response to challenge laid down by Houdini. Besides, I don't think skinheads listen to Schubert that much.
To Falling Down, following the Bantock,for mad English classical, Havergal Brian's huge Gothic Symphony is unmissable
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*changes tack 180º
will any of the 4 turner nominees be regarded as neglected masterpieces in a century's time?
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Fuck, that wasn't all meant to be in italics, only the title of the Schubert piece. Haven't seen this years Turner nominees but probably not. Did Rachel Whiteread win it once? Her work is good
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she did, with house, a piece i used to pass everyday to and from work
(http://www.dicoruna.es/cultura/interea/RevistaInterea04/pho/02_cama_3.jpg)
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Sorry Andy, never sought-out and listened to Schubert so can't comment on Winterreisse.
The fact the Wagner hobnobbed with Nazis doesn't bother me one jot (but then, those foolish enough to not jump through the hoops '33 - '45 ended up dead. "Is that two lumps Adolf or are you sweet enough? Naturlich mein Fuhrer! I shall stir it very well indeed!") It's beautiful stirring passionate music: that's the level I connect on. Eric Gill dabbled in incest but that has never stopped me enjoying his sculpture. The artist cannot be separated from the work. Really? I do it all the time.
Conceptual art: I find it chronically lazy; it can often revolve around a "twist" as if a twist is all that's needed to make great art. Once the twist has been recognised, I struggle to find deeper meaning and am left somewhat cold and often a little sorry for the 'artist'.
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The Wintereisse is absolutely to be sought out - heartbreaking and terrifying (I have a copy sung by Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau accompanied by Daniel Barenboim). Of course, the artist can (almost) always be separated from the art - and should be. And very obviously, neither Freidrich nor Schubert can be personally implicated in events happening many years later. But art can continue to run deep through cultures and societies and, most importantly, can in the most subtle ways act or help to legitimate ideologies. The afterlife of the art is far more powerful than the behaviour of the artist in his or her life. Besides it was you that brought up German romanticism and the rise of neo-fascism in the first place!!
Is Whiteread that conceptual? This looks like a piece of sculpture to me and one I like aesthetically. Agree with much of your sentiment on this though.
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Mr. Popp - I'm finding it desperate to disagree with you.
I've worked with proud and open fascists in East Germany. They are somewhat confused people: I had one on the ropes one time - he professed to be a socialist (indeed he voted left) but then when pushed turned into a rabid fascist defensively using unemployment figures (which in East Germany are very high indeed) and the generosity of the German welfare state to non-indigenous Germans to defend his racism. I saw very little in the way of ideology here, the usual gripes are lack of opportunities for the young. My point is, I'm not convinced German romantic writers like Schiller and Goethe can realistically be implicated in the rise of neofascism. Though I do accept your salient point vis-a-vis nihilism and romanticism. Mea culpa. It strikes me that fascism is born of good old fashioned fear and loathing and in the ex-DDR - a nation that have been shat on from the greatest of heights for half a century - something must ultimately break. It's just a shame that what broke was their sanity and reason.
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And me etc. Cultural explanations can only supplement those from history (being shat on) and structures (unemployment) for such complex phenomena. But, not knowing Germany, I wonder, is there an element of fatalism to German culture? Certainly, at times in the past, some have found it possible to manufacture a sense of destiny. Anyway, we have had a bit of a debate. I'll try and think of some more genuine neglected masterpieces. And some crap books for Gruff's thread.
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'Nothing Can Stop Us' by Robert Wyatt. The plaintive cover of 'At Last I Am Free,' originally by some disco outfit (Chic maybe) is genuis.
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I'm on a roll. Dylan is obviously not neglected, but how about 'John Wesley Harding,' I love this strange little collection.
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I wonder, is there an element of fatalism to German culture?
I asked the fräulein. She wondered, and said yes.
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That was a good guess then.
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Just got Metal Box on CD (it even came in a little replica of the box). Sounds almost better than I half remembered. What happened to Keith Levine - I just love his playing on this album?
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Metal Box isn't negelected in my gaff!
I'll see if I can pick up Winterreisse today, it does sound promising, as does the Hebridean Symphony.
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Class - PiL and Schubert in the same post! Let me know what you think.
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alice coltrane - 'a monastic trio'
accept it might be a bit jazz-club, but if anyone likes a bit of chin-stroking check this out, think its her first main album - have always been into her old fella, but only recently heard this stuff
(also 'journey in satchidananda' is awesome although think this is the better known masterpiece?)
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Hmmm... I like me some chin stroking... The Mahavishnu Orchestra make me stroke my chin...
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The Mahavishnu Orchestra make me stroke my chin...
In which case we should also mention Bitches Brew
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Quite. In fact, I am currently sporting what any self respecting hornblower c.1958-69 may term 'the half goatee'.
Designed specifically for stroking, but not pulling ot twirling, by a distant stateside relative of Jimmy Hill, but only to jazz or at a push jazzrock.
No. There is no chance you will see it.
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In which case we should also mention Bitches Brew
yeah andy 8)
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In which case we should also mention Bitches Brew
yeah andy 8)
And 'On the Corner'
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not heard 'on the corner' andy, sure its a masterpiece though - did he ever make anything less?
just thinking miles is a good example of not letting an artists beliefs/verbals get in the way of their art (seen some discussion of this somewhere else on here)
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did he ever make anything less?
Yeah some of the stuff from the 80's was dreadful....
My favourite Electric Miles' (strokes chin...) aside from Bitches Brew are Dark Magus and Live Evil... Pete Cosey's guitar is a bit more wild and mad than Mclaughlins...
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Yeah some of the stuff from the 80's was dreadful....
spoilsport
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'Ask the Dusk' by John Fante (first published in US 1939. First published in UK 1989) Perhaps the first REAL neglected masterpiece in this thread.
I can't describe how good this book is, or perhaps I can: It's astronomically good! Best book I've read in years, YEARS!
Anyone who's ever written, or had pretentions of writing should read this book. It's stunning. You know when you are in the company of genius.
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American proto-punk power-electronics duo Suicide (http://www.limbos.org/suicide/)
This duo scare the shit out of me. Listen to Frankie Teardrop & you'll get my drift.
The eponymous LP is brilliant. Hugely influencial. I hope people out there still listen to these freaks.
A mate recommended Frankie Teardrop to me - apparently they used to play it last thing at night in the bar he worked in to clear the room double quick - it has to be one of the most scarily fucked up records of all time!
bluebrad
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In which case we should also mention Bitches Brew
yeah andy 8)
Joe Zawinul the electric pianist off Bitches Brew and In A Silent Way died yesterday... RIP
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6989301.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6989301.stm)
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In which case we should also mention Bitches Brew
yeah andy 8)
Joe Zawinul the electric pianist off Bitches Brew and In A Silent Way died yesterday... RIP
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6989301.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6989301.stm)
In a Silent Way is my most listened to Miles album. I think it is utterly briliant, and that is very sad news.
I agree about Live Evil - it's really really good too. I think I overdosed on Bitches Brew as a teenager, which is the only reason I don't listen to it that much these days.
Jack Johnson is often overlooked, but shouldn't be. And from much earlier, Ascenseur pour l'Échafaud is defintely worth further investigation.
My favourite Trane album is Ole Coltrane, which lots of people haven't heard but should. And John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman is a bit different as well.
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Currently enjoying listening to various albums by Ali Farka Toure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Farka_Tour%C3%A9).
The album Talking Timbuktu with Ry Cooder is superb, and the Red and Green albums are beautifully simple. Going to seek more out in the near future.
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(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2162/1612942940_c382e61820_m.jpg)
smoothing a way through this morning with this classic - remember this one andy? (reminds me of steve)
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(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2162/1612942940_c382e61820_m.jpg)
smoothing a way through this morning with this classic - remember this one andy? (reminds me of steve)
That goes far beyond a good call Al! God I wish I could listen to that now. The finest, rootsiest, most righteous reggae going.
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The finest, rootsiest, most righteous reggae going.
Enjoyed a very relaxing bath last week whilst listening to Burning Spear's Marcus Garvey. Surely another contender?
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Clearly my original claim was over the top, but anyone into reggae who hasn't heard this album should check it out. Not really for lovers of dance hall though. Very political, very sparse, lean sound.
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Death Fuge by Paul Celan
Black milk of daybreak we drink it at evening
We drink it at midday and morning we drink it at night
We drink and we drink
We shovel a grave in the air there you won't lie too cramped
A man lives in the house he plays with his vipers he writes
He writes when it grows dark to Deutschland your golden hair Margareta
He writes it and steps out of doors and the stars are all sparkling he whistles his hounds to come close
He whistles his Jews into rows has them shovel a grave in the ground
He commands us play up for the dance
Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
We drink you at morning and midday we drink you at evening
We drink and we drink
A man lives in the house he plays with his vipers he writes
He writes when it grows dark to Deutschland your golden hair Margareta
Your ashen hair Shulamith we shovel a grave in the air there you won't lie too cramped
He shouts jab this earth deeper you lot there you others sing up and play
He grabs for the rod in his belt he swings it his eyes are so blue
Jab your spades deeper you lot there you others play on for the dancing
Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
We drink you at midday and morning we drink you at evening
We drink and we drink
A man lives in the house your goldenes Haar Margareta
Your aschenes Haar Shulamith he plays with his vipers
He shouts play death more sweetly this Death is a master from Deutschland
He shouts scrape your strings darker you'll rise then as smoke to the sky
You'll have a grave then in the clouds there you won't lie too cramped
Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
We drink you at midday Death is a master aus Deutschland
We drink you at evening and morning we drink and we drink
This Death is ein Meister aus Deutschland his eye it is blue
He shoots you with shot made of lead shoots you level and true
A man lives in the house your goldenes Haar Margarete
He looses his hounds on us grants us a grave in the air
He plays with his vipers and daydreams der Tod ist ein Meister aus Deutschland
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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What happened to the bon viveur of last week?
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He's fine.
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Glad to hear it. That poem nearly put me in the mood for some Strauss (Richard).
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Just watched Das Boot (dubbed) in it's entirety for the first time. It could've been the film thread but many probably haven't seen this as it's German.
I'm flabbergasted. The missus fancies Herr Kapitan. Will test my original language skills tomorrow. It's a massive film!
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Das Boot is awesome and seems to be loved my such a huge range of people. I had a conversation about it with some random people just the other day. Good shout.
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ZardoZ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/)
You betcha!
(http://allstarz.hollywood.com/~seanconnery/zardoz13.jpg)
Inimitable stuff.
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early troll chest harness, webley .455 and musketeer boots
i don't know whether to cum or shit meself
*does both
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By all means, cum soaps.
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I'm in Chicago with work this week and met up with my cousin and his wife last night for a couple of beers and a pizza. On the way out we decided to go for a couple more beers before heading back home (or to the hotel in my case). Walking down the road, we see a sign saying 'Meat Puppets 7th November'. I've been a Meat Puppets fan for years and never seen them live.. they were absolutely brilliant and its made my week away one to remember.
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Serendipitously RAD, bet you were SYKED. Did you ever see Minutemen? I was meant to see Wilco last week but they cancelled. Damn.
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Made a random cheapie purchase a while back of Human League's Dare 20th Anniversary Edition (complete with remix album "Love and Dancing"). All the singles appear on crap adverts and compilations far too regularly, but some of the rest of the songs I probably haven't listened to since I last had a turntable (last one got nicked in about 1990), and they still sound great. Which led me to thinking about Sheffield being one of the "birthplaces"of electronic pop (Early Human League, Heaven 17 etc). Can anyone make claim to have been at any of the early gigs?
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Sheffield being one of the "birthplaces" of electronic pop
You may find this (http://www.noiseheatpower.com/godsarticle.htm) interesting if I'm not teching you how to suck eggs.
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Did you ever see Minutemen?
Sadly no... but I did catch Firehose which was a great night out.
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Sheffield being one of the "birthplaces" of electronic pop
You may find this (http://www.noiseheatpower.com/godsarticle.htm) interesting if I'm not teching you how to suck eggs.
Looks interesting.
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Did you ever see Minutemen?
Sadly no... but I did catch Firehose which was a great night out.
I had a brilliant time at Firehose gig too. This should be in proper wad ticks really but the night after seeing them (in Leeds mind) I bumped into drummer George Hurley on a petrol station forecourt in Stoke.
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Goat By The Jesus Lizard. On Touch & Go Recs from Chicago.
Freeking peerless Rock.
(http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drc600/c691/c69141180s6.jpg)
I hope you've got this Herr Popp/Chappers/Andi_F. Sit very well with that wedge of AmpRep.
And Spiderland by Slint. Also on Touch & Go from Chicago.
Both LP's recorded by Albini.
(http://www.bram.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/slint_spiderland.jpg)
If you don't know this by now...
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I have the Slint but not the other. A half lost cause then.
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And Spiderland by Slint. Also on Touch & Go from Chicago.
Both LP's recorded by Albini.
(http://www.bram.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/slint_spiderland.jpg)
If you don't know this by now...
The cover photo was taken by Will Oldham..
I went to the Slint curated All Tomorrows Parties where they performed Spiderland live in its entirity which was very exciting and well worth the wait. They also had a Melvins/Jesus Lizard supergroup which was very fine indeed.
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I think I've mentioned her before but I is the remarkable, unearthly blues/jazz/country of Karen Dalton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyE9Axbt5XE
I can't recommend highly enough the album 'Its Hard to Know Who's Going to Love You the Best' (especially the track 'Ribbon Bow')
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Already got Spiderland, and will check the JL recommendation immediately. One of those bands that I was always peripherally aware of, but never made the leap of faith towards.
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The JL back cat is easy to navigate, but if I may direct you further:
Started with Pure in 89 -
(http://www.touchandgorecords.com/images/catalog/fullsize/307-1.jpg)
For fanboys/completists only. Recorded with ROLAND and not a live drummer a la Big Black. Half succeeds. Great record, but you must listen before you buy.
Then came Head in 91 (CD copy includes Pure) -
(http://www.touchandgorecords.com/images/catalog/fullsize/309-1.jpg)
Vicious JL proper, recruited drummer Mac McNeilly (10/10). A great record, but perhaps not the one to buy first.
Also in 91 came Goat -
(http://www.touchandgorecords.com/images/catalog/fullsize/311-1.jpg)
Brilliant. One to own, there are some epic performances. Critically acclaimed.
And then Liar in 92 -
(http://www.touchandgorecords.com/images/catalog/fullsize/314-1.jpg)
Belting stuff, hard to say if it's better than Goat, the performances are stunning, grimier, faster than it's predecessors. You must hear and own this. More Birthday Party than the Birthday Party managed.
And then came Down in 94 -
(http://www.touchandgorecords.com/images/catalog/fullsize/318-1.jpg)
JL showing a softer, groovier, slightly more contemplative side. And my personal favourite.
After this release they left Touch and Go recs for a major label. Released another LP called Blue, it blew. Plus another called Shot (not great but not poor) There are other lesser but still ace releases to discover that I haven't covered.
To recap:
Buy - Liar, Goat, Down, and if you feel frisky, the Head/Pure combo. Liar and Goat are both very heavy - not Melvins heavy - but heavy. Of the two I would go for Goat first, as it's slower and a little more metronomic; Liar is balls out. (All are recorded by Albini, so expect a huge sounds).
The Jesus Lizard actually got onto TOTP's once! They released a 7" from Liar called Puss which was backed with Nirvanas' Oh The Guilt. They tore the place apart.
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Jesus Lizard Myspace page (nb - they broke up years ago.) (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=40082984)
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Something inside me automatically turns-off when I hear the country S. Africa mentioned...
Innured perhaps...? Maybe it's Nelson; a contrary Violence-supporting fuck who only changed his mind after realizing he'd eat porridge till death.... Maybe, jury's out.
But...
Is this a Neglected Masterpiece? William Kentridge. You decide. Guardian piece. (http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/visualart/story/0,,2213950,00.html)
(http://www.poster.net/kentridge-william/kentridge-william-drawing-for-stereoscope-1998-99-3900059.jpg)
Simple but effective metaphor:
(http://www.gregkucera.com/_images/kentridge/kentr_birdcatcher_72.jpg)
(Sorry, I will listen to Die Winterreisse, hanging out for a 2nd hand CD or better, a live op.)
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Hope you enjoy the Schubert. Do you know Schoenberg's Gurre-Lieder? Not atonal but a kind of lush, hyper late romanticism with typical Germanic legend theme (Kings, Queens, muder, sex, dark woods, armies of ghosts etc.etc.). I think you might like it.
I'm gonna bump the recommendation below because I think everyone missed it at the bottom of the last page and I love her.
I think I've mentioned her before but below is the remarkable, unearthly blues/jazz/country of Karen Dalton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyE9Axbt5XE
I can't recommend highly enough the album 'Its Hard to Know Who's Going to Love You the Best' (especially the track 'Ribbon Bow')
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Andy, I liked that Karen Dalton track, in a kind of drifting off, wistful daydream way. Put me in mind of Beth Gibbons (Portishead) vocal style.
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As long as one person listenend to it.
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(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2162/1612942940_c382e61820_m.jpg)
smoothing a way through this morning with this classic - remember this one andy? (reminds me of steve)
Am currently back deep in roots land having bought an Augustus Pablo collection yesterday.
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As seen in The Shitheap, Hardcore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_(film)).
"Oh my God, that's my daughter."
Dir. - Paul Schraeder
Score - John Milius
Starring - George C Scott
A very very dark film from the 70's. Beyond Good and Blaxploitation.
(http://voiceover.blogdiario.com/img/hrdc.jpeg)
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Fuck. I remember seeing that ages ago. Yes, very dark. Didn't 8mm steal a lot of the ideas from this?
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Dunno? The film is super blue (in colour) - it gives a dark and malicious feel to everything does Blue.
I nominate the entire career of Harry Dean Stanton - Proper waddage.
(http://www.releasing.net/addie/addiespicks/harrydeanstanton2.jpg)
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Americana, you say?
Pretty soon you'll be asking yourself how you managed without Shannon Wright (http://www.myspace.com/shannonwright) (Myspace) And here (http://www.knowwave.com/shannonwright/) you'll find her homepage.
(http://pojupoju.free.fr/blog/public/21-19.jpg)
You'll Be the Death of Me (http://coudercgensac.free.fr/sons/youllbethedeath.ram)
With Closed Eyes (http://coudercgensac.free.fr/sons/withclosedeyes.ram)
Will certainly appeal to fans of the Quarterstick Records/Touch & Go/Albini aesthetic.
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Didn't 8mm steal a lot of the ideas from this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8mm_(film)
Answering my own question. Yes, it did.
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I nominate the entire career of Harry Dean Stanton - Proper waddage.
Seconded. A legend.
And for further pop trivia points... which band released a song in tribute to him?
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And for further pop trivia points... which band released a song in tribute to him?
Pop Will Eat Itself from the album "The Looks or the Lifestyle"
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Pop Will Eat Itself from the album "The Looks or the Lifestyle"
Correct (and I'm sure you didn't just Google that). Well done.
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Correct (and I'm sure you didn't just Google that). Well done.
I knew it was PWEI, but did have to look up the album (as I wasn't at home to dig out the CD's and check :)).
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I'll let you off and you can keep the PWEI waddage.
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Are we really sure we want PWEI sullying the neglected masterprieces thread?? shurely some mistake :-\
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Change of tack, 'Of Love and Money' by Julian McClaren-Ross, excellent slice of English social realism c. 1947. The same author's 'Memoirs of the Forties' is a brilliant and very funny tour of boozy literary London, set largely in the pubs of Soho and Fitzrovia, should appeal to fans of 'Hangover Square,' which I haven't read.
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More Freudian slippage?
Of Love & Hunger.
The Hangover Square (Patrick Hamiltonm )tip is welcome, mind. Sounds great -
London 1939, and in the grimy publands of Earls Court, George Harvey Bone is pursuing a helpless infatuation with Netta who is cool, contemptuous and hopelessly desirable to George. George is adrift in hell, until something goes click in his head and he realizes that he must kill her.
There is a film (http://Synopsis
London 1939, and in the grimy publands of Earls Court, George Harvey Bone is pursuing a helpless infatuation with Netta who is cool, contemptuous and hopelessly desirable to George. George is adrift in hell, until something goes click in his head and he realizes that he must kill her.)
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Well spotted, I realized what I'd done later done on and was just coming back to correct it. Have you read it?
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No. I haven't read it, I was googling for more info.
Andy I'm so behind. I'll get through all recommendations on this thread (but not PWEI, who are justifiably neglected) over the coming hols and reply then. Formulating an entirely new grading systems is not easy and takes time.
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(Nothing to see here, merely killing a post, move along)
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Have just been out to get a copy of Hangover Square. Will report back.
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Alright, hands up who hasn't read Knut Hansun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knut_Hamsun)
(http://www.new-york-art.com/schiele-1-Self-Portrait.jpg)
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And another thing
(http://www.deathrock.com/rudimentarypeni/images/fetus.gif)
Quarter century of Rudimentary Peni (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudimentary_Peni)
Early (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6maUxTn4LQ)
Late (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cVOjQhpS1g&feature=related)
In the correct thread this time
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And another thing
(http://www.deathrock.com/rudimentarypeni/images/fetus.gif)
Quarter century of Rudimentary Peni (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudimentary_Peni)
Early (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6maUxTn4LQ)
Late (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cVOjQhpS1g&feature=related)
In the correct thread this time
Oh yes. What a fine outfit. The likes of which could only have emerged on these shores.. there's something "Blakean " about Rudimentary Peni that sets them apart from all else. An acquired taste for sure but when you're in the mood there's nothing quite like it. Waddage duly awarded...
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Seconded, thanks for the introduction.
Hangover Square is shaping up very nicely, 'The he remembered without, any difficulty, what it was he had to to do: he had to kill Netta Longdon. He was going to kill her, and then he was going to Maidenhead, where he would be happy.'
I seem to be stuck in the seedy 30s and 40s at the moment having also just read a load of Orwell, Road to Wigan Pier, Keep the Aspidistra Flyingand best of allComing Up for Air. All this has reminded me of an excellent obscurity from the same time, Joyce Cary's First Trilogy comprising Herself Surprised, To Be A Pilgrimand From the Horse's Mouth. Excellent. Despite the name the author was a man.
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Extremely pleased to hear someone listens to/likes the peni
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQy_I7E1GAo&feature=related) is the definitive Y_Tube clip. Ruthless lyrics.
(http://www.deathrock.com/rudimentarypeni/images/nickb.gif)
Nick Blinko (voice, guitar, lyrics) is mentally ill - has been his whole life. His book, The Primal Screamer, is both fascinating and bizarre. Better him than you.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61H8N5Z2VNL._AA240_.jpg)
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Following Shannon Wright, My Brightest Diamond, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-1yCk-xmio&feature=related
And this because I was in the audience http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NKewvQndbs&feature=related
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Bow down, you curs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk7YxDzjTxA
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Nice.
Damien Rice is a prick who makes awful music. No surprise then that the band he "left" made one of my favourite albums.
(http://i2.tinypic.com/7wepquo.jpg)
No need to quantify. It's just very good.
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And again you bastards, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI1Lqmly2HM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9iXsF7lRE0
eek
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Cool. Apologies for some of last night's posts, I was a bit pissed!
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I was a bit pissed!
ha ha, i did wonder
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I was a bit pissed!
ha ha, i did wonder
Mind you finding all the Brel had got me quite excited as well. Al, I've pm'd you.
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Love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLH2Sjatn0
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Bow down, you curs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk7YxDzjTxA
Never mind his impassioned chanson, what's that guy's ape index?
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(http://bp2.blogger.com/_uB-0D-gV8mY/R1YZXVZVl7I/AAAAAAAAFxQ/6Kh2rOs32NM/s400/pete+shelley)
Ah don' wanna classify you like an animal in the zoo, but it seems good to me to know that you're homosapien too.
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(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z149/pengy1966/img475.jpg)
Schwarzer Welt (http://www.killyourpetpuppy.co.uk/mp3/pengs/xmal0002.mp3) (1982)
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SUICIDE - Frankie Teardrop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YprQnzRfjg&feature=related)
(http://www.ondarock.it/images/monografie/suicide1.jpg)
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We all love The Beach Boys, I think we can take that as a given. And of course, going deeper, we all worship Brian Wilson as the great addled genius behind them. But how many of us give his brother Dennis the credit he's due?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51m9Ww5WZlL._AA240_.jpg)
This festive period I've been digging Dennis.
That Dennis was the second-best songwriter in the Beach Boys was amazing, as was the band's failure to appreciate him as such. Bursting with creativity, this album is the result of years of songwriting, only a small trickle of which wound up on Beach Boys records. An absolute classic, and so much better than anything the Boys did in the 70s up 'til this point (with the exception of "Sunflower," which is another Dennis showcase).
(Copied from the ..beats thread, at Houdini's request)
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So is that album the best starting point Johnny? Anyway, here's a girl with a gun http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CHQkYYIYue4
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Anyway, here's a girl with a gun http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CHQkYYIYue4
Sorry to lower the tone with much hated on French Hip Hop, but I'd always wondered where the sample for this came from
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4T81ZvpXE
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So is that album the best starting point Johnny?
To be honest I'm no expert, copied some stuff off a mate's hard drive. I think that album is his acknowledged masterpiece, though you can't buy it so will have to trawl the net for it.
His version of Forever is very good also.
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Schönberg's Gurre-Lieder?
Just put it on now.
It has a nice Sunday matinee feel. I like it, building quite nicely; Wagnerian, epic.
Anyone care for the late Karl-Heinz Stockhausen? Abstruse proto-electronic material, he was a real innovator. Recent Guardian obituary. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,,2224205,00.html)
(http://www.soundart-koeln.de/details/Stockhausen.jpg)
Only in Germany.
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Crumbs Andy the conclusion to part 1 (op 12) is just out there. Elizabeth Connell/soprano, divine.
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Schönberg Gurrelieder: very strong finisher, paces himself perfectly, even male/female dichotomy; on more than one occassion I thought I was watching Wizard of Oz.
On the classique-trip may I recommend Camille Saint-Saens Dance Macabre.
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Fuck off ! I claim the prize!
Auf Wiedersehen, Pet.
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/entertainment_itv_at_50/img/11.jpg)
Bomber -
(http://www.aufpetonline.com/e107_plugins/sgallery/pics/7nmx5v1ctb0g/roach1.jpg)
I've got you by the balls this time, ha ha!
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You know the 3rd.
Just voices
(http://pixhost.eu/avaxhome/avaxhome/2007-05-22/miserere.jpg)
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Glad you enjoyed the Schoenberg Paul, I'm listening to it now myself. I know the Gorecki that's about the holocaust, is that that one? I have been checking some of your recommendations as well, it'll be Knut Hansun next. I love the diversity of this thread, though I'm not sure the original title is quite the right one now.
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As well as the music being fantastic, I also love the way the Gurrelieder is like a big fuck off to all the critics; 'Oh if you insist, I'll show you I can do this shit just as well as anyone else'.
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Yes, good thread.
The Fall - Dead Beat Descendent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX_BNE-H2v0)
Dust this one off, eh? Always liked Brix-period Fall.
The Shönberg will take a few listens to sink in. Gorecki - think the 3rd symph specifically regards the holocaust; Miserere is also very sombre, but worth a listen. Love to hear his 1st & 2nd symphonies.
And yet to find a reasonably priced Winterreise, but I'll keep looking.
Knut was one very potty writer - lifelong Teutonophile, supported the Reich etc.. Barking. And Hunger is crazy stuff.
Look if you ever get overly serious/tired and just fancy an amazing funny unique book then you have to get
Here comes the big tip, people,
*Ducks low*
(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/1841954977.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
It's four books in one edition and it's uncommonly good, A1. Arturo Bandini is the funniest literary character ever. There were times when I was reading this that I had to put it down because it was too good, it would've been wrong to rush it.
To quote from the back cover -
One of the great outsider figures of 20C literature, John Fante possessed a style of deceptive simplicity, full of emotional immediacy and tremendous psychological point... ...The Bandini Quartet tells of Arturo Bandini, Fantes fictional alter-ego, an impoverished young Italian-American who, armed with only a Jesuit high school education and the insane desire to write novels, escapes his suffocating home in Colorado to seek glory in a Depression-era Los Angeles. This ed also includes the 1st UK publication of Dreams from Bunker Hill, the brilliant final novel which a blind and wheelchair-bound Fante dictated to his wife, Joyce.
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Restless Natives (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089904/) (Dir. Michael Hoffman '85)
(http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/protectedimage.php?image=NoelMegahey/restlessnatives2.jpg)
W/Big Country soundtrack.
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Never heard of that. Finished Hamilton's Hangover Square, discussed above, which lived up to its promise; a rich seam of pathos. Going to check the Fante next - need to escape drear, desperate 30s England. I was going to give in to temptation at this point and nominate Proust but will instead for now recommend Le Grand Meaulnesby Alain-Fournier. Paradise lost indeed.
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You're doing the right thing; Fante/Bandini was 2007s saviour.
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You're doing the right thing; Fante/Bandini was 2007s saviour.
Looks good. I've just ordered a copy.
What do people reckon to Michel Houellebecq? I read this a while back and thought it was absolutely brilliant...
(http://i19.tinypic.com/6tyf5uv.jpg)
........seriously thought provoking, funny, shocking, unbelievably sad but ultimately positive....then I read Platform and thought it was good but not in the same league. His other stuff has left me thinking that maybe he's a bit of one trick pony (Lanzarote, Whatever) but I've not read The Possibility of an Island yet. Anyone know what it's like? Also, I've not seen the film adaptation of Atomised as I think I'll be disappointed. Is it any good? Can't see how it'd live up to the book.
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I know Houdini is a fan. I've read Platform, which I had mixed feelings about but which I liked enough to want to read more. I felt in ended very powerfully - with a tenderness I didn't expect from what had gone before.
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Elementarteilchen / Atomised, German.
(http://www.christian-ulmen.de/filme/etplakat500.jpg)
The cast is strong: Franka Potenta - you probaly all know by now. Moritz Bleibtreu - he's a fucking great actor (both he & Potenta starred in Lola Rennt [Run Lola Run]). Christian Ulmen is sort of Germany's Louis Theroux, but twisted. He had a show on MTV / VIVA forget which, regardless - he's a funny and rebellious wit.
OK, you can tell I like this film. At first I thought it was a mistake that it was made by a German crew but really it makes no odds at all as the cast are such big talents in the Reich. I haven't read Atomised.
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Atomised is much, much better in my opinion but that might be because I read it first and saw a lot of the same themes (and obviously the same writing style) repeated in Platform. I'll still read anything he's written, his books are never a chore.
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OK, you can tell I like this film.................. I haven't read Atomised.
Hmmm. I'm still unsure as to whether or not I'll hate it just because I love the book. Suppose I should just stop whingeing and watch it.
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This week listening to lots of Eno:
(http://www.connollyco.com/discography/brian_eno/airports.jpg)
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003S0K.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
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Its so long since I heard 'Here Come the Warm Jets' I have no idea what its like. Great title anyway. The Fante is only 6.99 at Amazon.
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The Fante is only 6.99 at Amazon.
Buy it. Ask the dusk (1/4 of the Fante compendium is 8 pounds alone).
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I have.
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You won't regret it. Books 1 & 2 will slay you.
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That's where I ordered it from £7.50 inc postage. I love Amazon.
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I love Amazon.
I don't. While they may have a good selection their apparent price always goes up when their silly postage charges get added in. Worth checking prices here before buying from them http://www.find-book.co.uk/ (http://www.find-book.co.uk/)
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Granted you have to factor it in but if you check different sellers you can still generally find everythig cheaper. I use that site but it doesn't take into account the fact that Amazon don't just sell stuff themselves. Plus you can often get free postage on Amazon if you're buying a few things.
Anyway this is all. :off:
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anyone here loved this gem like i did?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6r1GrApjiM
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I fear the work of Gustave Dore has fallen from the general eye . . .
(http://mapage.noos.fr/momina/dore/dore-andromede.jpg)
Andromeda.
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Better than Burton & Olivier. There will only ever be one Klaus Kinski.
(http://www.anglofritz.com/kinski.jpg)
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What do people reckon to Michel Houellebecq? I read this a while back and thought it was absolutely brilliant...
His other stuff has left me thinking that maybe he's a bit of one trick pony (Lanzarote, Whatever) but I've not read The Possibility of an Island yet.
Atomised is certainly the best of the bunch - I think that he is potentially a great writer but he just gets too nihilistic in his later books and it is all frankly rather depressing and you feel that he is wasting his talent.
Solzhenitsyn's One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch deserves a mention I think.
bluebrad
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This week listening to lots of Eno:
(http://www.connollyco.com/discography/brian_eno/airports.jpg)
Was thinking about this album the other day as it touches on a lot of the minimalist stuff that I am listening to at the minute and realised that I don't own this on CD - will have to rectify this come payday!
bluebrad
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So, at last I've procured Schuberts' Winterreise - Roman Trekel Baritone, Ulrich Eisenlohr, Piano. It's certainly not as arresting as Guerreleider; but they are such radically different works - I doubt it ever could. Specifically, I find the piano work poor and does not connect in the way that other morose works have (for example - some Debussy, Eric Satie et al; though these are hardly Schubert's peers).
Though certain passages do grab you -
Mein Herz ist wie estorben,
Kalt starrt ihr Bild darin:
Schmiltz je das Herz mir wieder,
Fließt auch ihr Bild dahin.
Mind, I do like the ending very much -
Wunderlicher Alter,
Soll ich mich dir gehn?
Willst zu meinen Liedern
Deine Leier drehen?
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Being specific - Aguirre - Wrath of God (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068182/) Herzog 1972
(http://uashome.alaska.edu/~jndfg20/website/aguirre2.gif)
If you have the time, this comment by a German fan is illuminating. Kinski was a Titan.
Respect. Significance. To be remembered. Everybody wants it. Even artists who originally were content to just make great movies get the serious bug and want respectability. They want to be part of history. Witness Scorsese over the past decade. In reality films that are significant rarely are done with such intent, and are even less likely to be recognized as such at the time.
Aguirre the wrath of god is such an example. Its creator, Werner Herzog, wanted nothing more than to make his third fictional feature film about the title character with his favorite actor Klaus Kinski. But he went through every obstacle imaginable. He had to steal the camera, deal with a hurricane, run barefoot across rocky ground, and deal with the madman that is Kinski himself. Not to mention that most of the audio was savaged and had to be completely redubbed. And when it finally came out, it was trashed in Germany. Every critic hated it. Then, a weird thing happened. In America, the critics were hailing it. It became a proto midnight movie. Like many of Herzog’s own favorite movies “it didn’t change world cinema, but it was well made”. In the broad scheme, it was not important.
Or was it? Near the end of the decade it was made, movie called Apocalypse Now came out. Directed by now known auteur Coppola, it was heavily influenced by Aguirre. In not only themes and mood, but also the fact that there are two “visual quotations” in the film: the first is a ship stuck in a tree, and the second is man struck by a spear (in Aguirre it was an arrow). Apocalypse Now has been called one of the most significant films of all time, and many filmmakers have admitted to it influencing them. But what about influencing the influencers? What does that say about Aguirre? Is it significant?
Perhaps a closer look is warranted. We all know of the work Herzog pushed himself through to make it, but what of the film? First, like few other films (Carpenter’s The Thing) it is a bizarre mix of genres and ideas. Because it was made on a shoestring budget in and shot in Brazil, it feels like third world cinema or a documentary. Other times, due to its minimalist story and vivid imagery, it comes off as expressionist or surrealist. With the historical interpretation of the conquistadors, it matches eyes with soviet history films. Also note, it has a body count high enough for a horror or action film. But because it deals with one man’s struggle, it can be seen as a tropical drama or even western, a man exploring new territory. And finally, because of its visual potency, bare minimum of words and moody soundtrack (courtesy of Popol Vuh), it seems like a new silent film. Maybe this is why Americans loved the film, this country does seem to adore eccentrics. And this is undoubtedly why the German population did not get it.
For that matter ,what was going on in Germany? At the time of Aguirre, it had entered a New Wave of cinema(called by the same name),a movement at least equal to the French Wave. But like most waves, disparate and sometimes even contrasting artist are lumped together. In reality Herzog had little in common with Wim Wenders (in themes) and both were like martians to Rainer Werner Fassbinder(who was probably the purest New German Wave-er, hence his death ended it). And yet all were doing something, they were making films. Real films. German cinema had suffered a massive crater with the Nazi’s and the works of Riefenstahl. Their lineage was broken. For all of the fifties, Germany’s output was mostly poor erotic television plays. The gap between pre and post-war needed to be bridged. And Aguirre was that movie. Even including all of the above about Aguirre, it succeeded where others failed because of Klaus Kinski(a pre WWII German youth). Kinski was a widely admired man, and displayed an aura of someone who was born before the horrors that ravaged Germany. He was one of the few bright spots in the post-war German cinema. But it took Herzog, a man who spent his youth in the aftermath of the Nazis and Riefenstahl, to not only bring out the best in Kinski(and himself) but to make a film that gave relevance to the identity of Germany(which Herzog alternately loved and despised) cinematically. Because of him, filmmakers in America felt there was new cinematic language to be done (The Godfather, Taxi Driver), which influenced a new generation of German filmmakers to do the same(Run Lola Run, Goodbye Lenin). If Coppola and Scorsese are the fathers of modern cinema in Europe, then Herzog is the cantankerous but still active grandfather. And Aguirre helped make him such an influence. Now that's significance.
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seconded - aguirre is certainly in my top three films (along with Apocolypse Now).
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On a slightly different note, a fat beardy dude in a frilly shirt. But, what a tune, and so well played. (If you play guitar you'll know it's a difficult piece)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGEZ71USNuw
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In a similar vein,
(not a masterpiece but worth viewing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSnUwA6c67k
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Nice find Houd. Wouldn't he be better playing drums in Def Leppard though?
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;D Always though the DL guy shoud've moved to harmonica/jews harp etc..
I recall this guy played for the Pope one time though if he was granted safe passage into Heaven I cannot say.
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Dolly Parton - Jolene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiO3SIOOc_4&feature=related) (turn it up, kick that rooster!)
Criminally neglected by the youth of today.
A more rockin' live version with some great spiel/humour. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEbh0SWandU&feature=related)
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So, at last I've procured Schuberts' Winterreise - Roman Trekel Baritone, Ulrich Eisenlohr, Piano. It's certainly not as arresting as Guerreleider; but they are such radically different works - I doubt it ever could. Specifically, I find the piano work poor and does not connect in the way that other morose works have (for example - some Debussy, Eric Satie et al; though these are hardly Schubert's peers).
Shame that didn't quite live up to my hype. I find it not so much morose as chilling, particularly on the final two songs Die Nebensonnen and Der Leiermann
Next I'll thow in Beethoven's Quartet No. 15 Op. 132 (one of the so-called late quartets) esp. the third movement.
Change of tack, just got hold of The Individualism of Gil Evans by Gil Evans, best known for working with Miles Davis. Brilliant cineamatic kind of orchestral jazz - especially The Barbara Song which basically spends its entire ten minutes ending very gradually and Las Vegas Tango big brooding blues.
Finally, here's a Davy Graham taster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16tQ9gZI3Lo&feature=related
ps love the live Jolene
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Jolene is quite possibly the greatest pop song ever recorded. Its faultless, even the production couldn't be improved. Vying for the top spot I'd include in the top five Good Vibrations, I want you back, and MmmBop. Any other offers?
Also this week have been listening to lots of Leonard Cohen in an attempt to understand why Houdini would see him dead. End result: I can't - he's magnificent. Go and listen to Hallelujah again.
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On the classique-trip may I recommend Camille Saint-Saens Dance Macabre (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ_w_ZLmqAU&feature=related).
Davy Graham's playing is somewhat asian/arabic, non?
Leonard Cohen . . . . . . dead.
Crumbs JB! Wouldn't go that far; gagged would suffice. He makes my meninges bleed something rotten. :(
Any other offers?
No brainer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxlGioADs3I&feature=related)! ;)
I see ROOM 101 as expulsion from Planet Earth, not necessarily death.
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You wanted him in room 101 - a fate worse than, and followed by, death?
C'mon - nominations for greatest pop singles.
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Also this week have been listening to lots of Leonard Cohen in an attempt to understand why Houdini would see him dead. End result: I can't - he's magnificent. Go and listen to Hallelujah again.
I particularly like 'Tower of Song' from I'm Your Man, which is actually funny. No, really.
Followed the Danse Macabre link, its one of those things you know without realising it.
I was posting while you were Johnny. I think the '5 greatest pop singles' requires/deserves a thread of its own. I don't see it being settled quickly.
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Oh this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Dsonl88nA&feature=related) is so not neglected but I can't help myself.
New thread then.
Go!
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And this: stella (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6SN1FDmEY8)!
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C'mon - nominations for greatest pop singles.
Any particular era? And how many are we allowed.
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No. As many as you like.
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New thread JB.
This one is stretched enough.
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Definitely. New Fred?
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'Ere darlin', get yet earin' gear rahnd this n'all - kick out the jams muthafucka!
Karl Jenkins - Dies Irae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=het4wj9hiCg
Wooooo - works for me, sweetheart.
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Un-unuvvah you cahnts cuz I ain't fahkin' arahn wi you tossers t'day norl, whyte?
Karl Jenkins - Sanctus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8VlZOg9iv4
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Once Were Warriors (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110729/)
(http://www.gorila.sk/i/imgs_orig/217/9217.jpg)
Phenomenal, heartbreaking, outrageously violent - just like life.
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Once Were Warriors (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110729/)
Woooooooord! Waddage for that Hoody Hoo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2aMpumi0gc)
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The Fall - Rebellious Jukebox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YvcUM9r2s4
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Don't forget Spectre vs Rector. Bizarre, but classic.
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Love/ Hate with this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkWMcRlE1mQ
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It's a bizarre & unnerving fact but almost all humans blessed w/ the surname Barker are cursed w/ genius . . . Though what form this takes is hard to predict or quantify . . .
Most excellent.
May I recommend a staple cult classic of the German Xmas: this has never not been shown in the Reich since it was made.
Dinner For One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1v4BYV-YvA
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read up on main protagonist terry stamp; now should i punt out twelve notes for this? (http://www.burningshed.com/index.asp?page=details&main=vocal&label=9&id=209)
soaps - did you ever stump up the 12 squid for terry stamp - howling for the highway home?
Review please!
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May I recommend a staple cult classic of the German Xmas: this has never not been shown in the Reich since it was made.
A rather odd film. When was it made, and why is it so popular in the Motherland?
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I've no idea of it's provenance, but they show it every Xmas w/ out fail. Father-in-law-to-be says it typifies German humour; which in itself is extremely hard to understand; it's wrong to say that German humour is w/ out humour - it's just very subtle: when your language has so little slang the approved grammatic routes are open to massive differences of interpretation; I wish I could say I was on top of it, but I feel that is impossible or would require another lifetime to get on top of.
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W/ thanks to Dave for reminding me of this boss 1977 masterpiece
(http://blogs.citypages.com/amadzine/images/slapshot.jpg)
IMBD blurb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076723/)
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I had reason to quote this earlier on the Croatian Tech forum I frequent as an argument against what I see as the unholy curse of minimalism in electronica. I don't mean minimal I mean MNML: a fashionable construct; and as such - no use to Man nor Beast.
DO NOT GO GENTLE INTO THAT GOOD NIGHT By the great Welsh master, Dylan Thomas. (And I quote it here as his wise-oh-wise words seem to have been forgotten by the Johnny Come Lately's).
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
& I'll see you in Hell, fool!
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1986 - the big one - the year some podgy kid took on the climbing world and won; also the year this classic track was released; and my 1st 7" single. This isn't nostalgia: this is genius . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njez8hs5O4s
. . . if you holidayed in Mars!
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Oh God the chicken song. Every kid worth his salt knew every word of it, myself included. '86 you say? I was 12 and met said podgy lad for the first time at a Paul Williams slide show in Wales shortly after he'd done a few routes. The memories come flooding back...............
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"...and pretend your name is keith". Genius.
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Guru Guru - Electric Junk (1971) Stroke those chins now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2u5T-iOYpI
And, Oxymoron (1972)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBmZmrqehg0
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GCW beat me to it but I think this one has to be seen.
Fork Handles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz2-ukrd2VQ
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I can't see that at work but if it's what I think it is I was gonna post it at the same time as the F.U.N.E.M. sketch (Swedish Made Simple).
But I decided it wasn't neglected- it's quite well known compared to Swedish Made Simple. Still very funny though.
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Ah you're very quick tonite (in fact I'd forgotten you posted them 1st).
Man I'd so forgotten about Bulla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM1acN96pP8
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Yog Sothoth - Fou L' Art Noir (http://www.mediafire.com/?f5xwb2rnzcz) (1984) (As ever we're unsure of this links longevity.)
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/Johnwilkesboo/yog.jpg)
A French jazz-rock band that seem to have disappeared.
1. "Nekrosis"
2. "Maint Reve Vesperal"
3. "Fou L' Art Noir"
Pascal Morrow: violin
Philippe Guillot: saxophones, flute
Jean-Yves Joron: keyboards
Pierre-Gedeon Monteil: bass
Olivier Lechien: drums
Cathy Camilleri: voice
Mark Sims: trombone
Incredible, if you are open to this sort of thing. Al? Popp? Yoss? Slopes? Soaps?
(You will need to unpack this .rar file. Jim and I recommend Win-rar! The E-ver Unpacking! (http://www.download.com/WinRAR/3000-2250_4-10007677.html))
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I had to think quite hard on which thread to include this in - Beats: on the face of it, lazily for everything but more appropriate for electronca: no go; Noisy guitar shiz: great, but a broad random church; and the Masterpieces.
I settle for Neglected Masterpieces. I've followed all music bar post-soul/disco black music closely for 23-odd years now and it's rare to be bowled over by something so unique. I've never heard anything quite like Skepticism - Stormcrowsfleet. (http://www.mediafire.com/?ai0xmwjtve5) (.zip / 160kbps)
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/Johnwilkesboo/stormcrowfleet.jpg)
Stormcrowfleet is the debut album of the Finnish band, Skepticism. This album is one of the most depressing, and atmospheric works to ever heard come out of the metal underground. It's an amazing metal album - and of a style that is just not heard. It's slow, funereal, epic, mournful, majestic - an incredibly beautiful record than spans time itself. It's a hard record to quantify unless one knows something of the environment that spawned it: when one thinks of Finland, in particular if you have never visited the country - you may fall upon all manner of stereotype - well now there is no need: this is generic. Endless leadlined fog; permafrost; opaque olive shades of forest thicker than one could imagine.
1. "Sign of a Storm"
2. "Pouring"
3. "By Silent Wings"
4. "The Rising of the Flames"
5. "The Gallant Crow"
6. "The Everdarkgreen"
Again, an easy 9/10. I really hope you dig this (in it's lightest parts it's reminded me very obliquely of Rammstein - but I do mean obliquely.)
Having discovered this LP I don't think I could continue w/ out it.
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An interesting review of Stormcrowsfleet (Bummer the file is only 160 kbps ~ but I'll buy the original)
Simplicity is the most difficult tool that can be used in music; most much rather have a cacophony that drowns out lack of direction and bury incompetence under hills of slurred notes [Mayhem anyone?--Editor]. What sort of a band resigns itself to the use of the heaviest, detuned power-chords/bass and an eerie organ to their fullest - at the most painfully languid pace - yet with a lapidary minimalism to engage, move and terrify even the most indurate of listeners?
It is one big mass of barely-coherent distant muddle, just within the capacity of human hearing. The guitar-bass recording/mix is really very deep and the organ sounds a little uncertain of its volume at times. It is not going to be easy to enjoy even for the extremest metal worshipper. Oh, but where they take you from there...
"Sign of a Storm" holds the tension of times before a storm: a moderate gale, expectant green swish and crazed human grins directed at the ominous massivity of rain-bearing clouds. The ground smells storm and life revels in the exhilaration of a deluge, well aware that it will be accompanied by thunder and lightning. It is a barely-contained explosion preceeded by a scheming calm, all captured beautifully by Skepticism. "Pouring" might be described as moments sampled of the rain itself: a slightly faster pace and not as fragmented or amorphous as the earlier track. The rest of the tracks are all equally good, not one seems redundant or excessive in spite of the detached and sparse nature of the music. "The Everdarkgreen" is a great finish. The organ here is really pronounced in its tone and able to create some fabulous soundscapes. My only problem is with the vocals: why not the female vocals in the vein of Anathema's "Everwake" or say My Dying Bride's "Black God"? The growls are too ugly, too "easy" to listen to. Beautiful female vocals could have provided a stark contrast to the bottom-heavy drowse.
Depressing music? Perhaps, yes. Death metal? Not precisely. Classical music? Maybe, even. Paradoxical, anyway, eminently wise yet of a childlike naïveté, surely for at least the nominally insane. Of course, insanity is often a significant architect in the erection of and a great motivator in the diligent study of Genius. Every time you must study the nuances of its spires and ancient bricks - perhaps pay attention to that note of the faint organ you missed the last time or absorb the silence more respectfully - the silence being something you surely scorned on the first listen, silence which is as much a brick as a note itself. Gigantic, decrepit stone structures, grand as the centuries they have seen: Stormcrowfleet is not music you can easily place - in terms of the compositional nature - in a genre or even in a particular era of musical evolution. It is just a warped atmosphere, a weather-beaten landscape seasoned by centuries. It has a sonic aura of "green": evergreen thicket poetically entwined with pillars and a refreshing, dense mist. Scoure these cavernous ruins and you'll surely find great treasures: facets of the purity of expression seldom found in music these days.
Listen at the nadir of your lifetime, and next morning you'll find that your wrists bear strange scars and your blurry parents have concerned looks...or you will have touched the void, already.
"Up there The Light of no Sun
Dim is the glow
Up there are the Stars
Far, far below
Up there Skies painted
With Glances; The Touch
Up there He is
Proudly Alone"
- The Gallant Crow
Review by Rahul Joshi
A fantastic quote from a different review of the same: The drumming is slower than the evolution of lung cancer . . .
www.myspace.com/officialskepticism
www.skepticism.fi
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Been getting back to ones industrial roots today w/
Coil's ~ Horse Rotorvator (1986).
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/Johnwilkesboo/coiledhorse1.jpg)
Totally forgotten what an amazing record this. Grandiose, bizarre, doomsome - extraordinary soundscapes/songs. Hard to imagine it's so old really - which is the mark of great music.
(PM me if it takes your interest and I'll send a link).
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You might be interested in this then Houdini...
(http://mog.state51.co.uk/tid/2f16aacadd43750523bbad36c97c9ca80437ba98/dxjblbc/bydhtupdm-thumb-jpeg-450x450/jpeg/402609470054.jpeg/bmi_orig_img/402609470054.jpeg)
A ltd edition Coil Absinthe (label designed and signed by Sleazy) with two glasses and CD..
I assume also that you've listened to the more recent Coil CD's (Musik to play in the Dark I & II, The Remote Viewer (which is awesome BTW)? If not, give 'em a whirl. I much prefer them to their earlier stuff..
And here's a free download in Memoriam to Jhonn Balance http://thresholdhouse.greedbag.com/release/~in-memorium-jhonn-balance-it-jus-0/ (http://thresholdhouse.greedbag.com/release/~in-memorium-jhonn-balance-it-jus-0/).
Enjoy...
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Ah ha!
I have heard of this release but yet to hear it. (I love absinthe once in a while. Do you know the tunnel between Cwm-Y-Glo and Llanberis? Along the old 'beris road? I'm sure you do. There was a techno party in this tunnel not long back; I turned up w/ a bottle of Spanish pomegranate absinthe 80% ... Within minutes of my arrival all partygoers were tripping their tits off and looking at the tunnel ceiling saying: nice texture .... - which is off topic bull, ha!)
(I think this link to a DL is duff?)
FYI: The BH link will remain open a wee while longer, für sie.
I will attempt to track the Music to play in the dark 1 & 2 down - as I have yet to hear it. I am ashamed to say I have left Coil for some time, but I'm back on the case!
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Two amazing albums that fit the thread title perfectly
Bill Fay - Time of the Last Persecution
(http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/f/fay_bill~~~_timeofthe_101b.jpg)
There's a review here which sums it up pretty well http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/review/817
Linda Perhacs - Parallelograms
(http://www.abc.net.au/southwestvic/stories/Linda_Perh_m966855.jpg)
Here's one of the songs on some random youtube video thing http://youtube.com/watch?v=HeCe1l94Dd4
and here's another one http://youtube.com/watch?v=meU2j0PlGX0&feature=related from use in a Daft Punk film thing (this one is very Carpenters(in a good way)), this video is pretty funny if you watch it to the end.
Check them out, you'll thank me.
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I'll second the Bill Fay album - absolutely brilliant.
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51p-CHncGSL._AA240_.jpg)
The album is hardly neglected, as it is just out, but a double album for a fiver is pretty good value. Some masterpiece tunes.
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I'll second the Bill Fay album - absolutely brilliant.
The Independent has a 'Cult Classics' piece in its art section on Fridays and today they highlight a 'lost' Bill Fay album Tomorrow, Tomorrow, Tomorrow released on Durtro in 2005.
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THROBBING GRISTLE ~ Hamburger Lady (no vid just sound).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0ukMn0eWLQ
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Neat TG interview / LIVE thing from Berlin 05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0szn9qGaCmA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgt8kNoFsbo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG0Lprh1IdA
Out of this world, really.
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PIERRE HENRY ~ Psyche Rock (1967)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZPDrNAFo1U
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Does anyone remember The Associates? There was a thing on telly the other night about Scottish Music and it's the first time I had thought about them in the 10 years since i heard Billy Mackenzie comitted suicide. Party Fears Two was a great song.
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Per Ubu. Not brilliant quality but still very worth viewing, not least as a reminder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zys-CaX7Ig4
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Andy that's atrocious quality, but I'm lucky as I know Pere Ubu, I think you should seek a finer clip, dude.
I wanted Die Wellen (The Waves) from Germany's finest: Einstürzende Neubauten (Demolishing New Buildings), but I can't find. In it's stead I offer Nagorny Karabach from the LP Alles Wieder Offen (Everything's Open Again). It's a decent clip w/ a translation for you non-krauters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd-6WweqD0Y
Blixa Bargelds' voice is sublime, is it not?
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I like the music of the various bands of Albini but some of his opinions baffle the fuck out of me. One of those is his view of modern industrial music (my thing). What did he say? That the genre went DISCO! Tit. The genre went fully industrial, which in these times means PC controlled. ::)
Alas, this talented bigot forgot that Industrial is a reflection of the current state of industry & technology which necessarily must change w/ progress. Industry must become more mechanised, more efficient, more machine-like, more metronomic; shit - that's industry for you. See the TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO dl thread for more info on modern industrial.
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Well, I thought the Per Ubu was at least watchable and gave a flavour. However, the following is most definitely of good quality and serves to highlight a band I nominated many pages ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2LCErRSqIs.
Looking forward to listening to the Einsturzende when I'm on a different pc.
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I love this band and I love this LP. Popp, you've redeemed yourself ;)
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Look if you ever get overly serious/tired and just fancy an amazing funny unique book then you have to get
Here comes the big tip, people,
*Ducks low*
(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/1841954977.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
This really is very good and I've not even finished the first book yet.
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This really is very good and I've not even finished the first book yet.
Reading it myself and as you say it is rather good - can certainly see how it influenced Bukowski's work.
bluebrad
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Count me in as another Fante fan. You did us prouf there Houdini.
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I'm a foul-mouthed curr, but I know my books :) grazie.
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BAD NEWS ~ Warriors of Ghengis Khan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O8XLttD1b4
Just amazing. More Bad News part 1 - 6 can also be found on the tube. Don't forget, they played Castle Donnington.
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The Comic Strip did some good stuff but for me Bad News was the best by far. Truly hilarious. I must have seen it 100 times as a lad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-vy1Pz3qs8
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(http://www.geneclark.com/images/gclark1.jpg)
Been getting into Gene Clark recently. After being one of the creative forces in The Bryds he had a troubled solo career - his biggest LP No Other is probably the place to start:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Gene_Clark-No_Other_%28album_cover%29.jpg)
On the basis of the quality of Clark's Byrds contributions, David Geffen signed him to Asylum Records in early 1974. Asylum was the home of the most prominent exponents of the singer-songwriter movement of the era and carried the kind of hip cachet that Clark hadn't experienced since his days with The Byrds. He retired to Mendocino and spent long periods at the picture window of his friend (and future co-writer and drummer) Andy Kandanes' cliff-top home with a notebook and acoustic guitar in hand, staring at the Pacific Ocean. Deeply affected by his visions, he composed numerous songs which would serve as the basis for his only Asylum LP, the aptly titled No Other. Produced by Thomas Jefferson Kaye with a vast array of session musicians and backing singers, the album was an amalgam of country rock, folk, gospel, soul and choral music with poetic, mystical lyrics but it was not well received by many contemporary critics who categorised it as an overproduced indulgence. Because No Other wasn't a conventional pop/rock opus, its chances of success were greatly minimised by Clark's relative obscurity. Furthermore, because it only consisted of eight tracks (the rumour that it was originally intended to be a double-album has been put to rest by Einarson's biography) produced at a cost of $100,000, an enraged Geffen berated Clark and Kaye. Shortly after, Clark assailed Geffen in public and the label refused further promotion of the album which then stalled in the charts at #144. On a more personal note, the singer's return to Los Angeles and his reversion to a hedonistic lifestyle resulted in the disintegration of his marriage.
Silver Raven (http://www.geneclark.com/mp3/silverraven84.mp3)
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http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2008/02/michael-o-shea-stcd20011982usauk.html
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" Here's one of the most obscure Wire related releases. This gem was released by Wire specialists WMO in 2001 and it's already out of stock. Music is eperimental folk ,was originaly released in 1982 (partially) and was produced by Gilbert & Lewis. Concerning Micael O' Shea:
"Michael O'Shea was an eccentric, maverick world musician. He was a virtuoso of the Mo Cara, a 17-string instrument he invented and built, on which he created hauntingly melodic works combining elements of Celtic and Asian musics. Although primarily a busker, in the early '80s he enjoyed a brief legitimacy, releasing one album and even opening for Ravi Shankar at London's Royal Festival Hall.
O'Shea was born in Northern Ireland in 1947 but grew up in the Irish Republic. Keen to see the world, he joined the British Army at 17. However, military life didn't suit him; he went AWOL for two years and was court-martialed. On release from jail, he moved to London where he gravitated toward the folk scene, mixing with musicians like Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger.
In the mid-'70s, he went to Bangladesh as a volunteer, returning with dysentery, hepatitis, and a sitar. While convalescing he learned to play the sitar and then busked around Europe and the Middle East. In France he traveled with an Algerian who played an instrument known as the zelochord. O'Shea hit on the idea of building a hybrid of a zelochord, a hammered dulcimer, and a sitar; the result was the Mo Cara (Gaelic for "my friend").
Back in London, O'Shea busked with the Mo Cara, the bizarre sight and sound of the instrument instantly attracting crowds. In early 1980, he was spotted by a talent scout for Ronnie Scott, who was fascinated by the Mo Cara's mix of East Asian, South Asian, and Irish sounds. Scott offered the Irishman a residency in his club's prestigious Downstairs Room and became his agent. This led to his opening for Ravi Shankar at the Royal Festival Hall and he even played on a Rick Wakeman project, although his contribution was subsequently discarded.
Despite encouraging signs, O'Shea's career did not take off and he returned to busking. While playing in Covent Garden, O'Shea was noticed by Tom Johnston, an early member of The The. Johnston introduced O'Shea to Wire's Bruce Gilbert and Graham Lewis, who asked him to record for their Dome label. Due to his previous disappointments, O'Shea was ambivalent about others' efforts to launch his career and was convinced that his music was best-suited to spontaneous street performance. An invitation to Blackwing Studio was nonetheless extended. A year later, he appeared unannounced, saying his horoscope augured well, and recorded the album.
In 1982, O'Shea worked with Tom Johnston and Matt Johnson on a projected album, but nothing came of it. Later that year, he collaborated on two tracks for John Denver Stanley's Content to Write in I Dine Weathercraft. In 1985, he played on the title track of Larry Cosgrave's Easter Island. (Material from the Stanley and Cosgrave projects appeared on the 2002 CD reissue of O'Shea's self-titled album.)
In the late '80s O'Shea became involved in the burgeoning rave scene and rarely performed. In December 1991, he was struck by a van in London and died two days later.
~ Wilson Neate, All Music Guide "
Follow the link. The DL is there to be found. I'm listening now. Sublime, neo-folk.
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PS. JB, the Silver Raven track is ace. Particularly impresed w/ the electric guitar. Rippin' riffage.
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Indeed. Even more impressive stuff on Some Misunderstanding (which has an amazing solo played on, I think, a bottleneck-wah-pedal combo) and Strength of Strings from the same album. Shame they're not on that site, if I had broadband I'd send you the album...
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Two amazing albums that fit the thread title perfectly
Bill Fay - Time of the Last Persecution
(http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/f/fay_bill~~~_timeofthe_101b.jpg)
There's a review here which sums it up pretty well http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/review/817
Check them out, you'll thank me.
Thank you indeed, the Bill Fay is great. Like the way I can't place it re; other artists/genres.
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8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5I2vEcVC_I
Just the most amazing bass and guitar sounds ever. The perfect band.
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Two amazing albums that fit the thread title perfectly
Bill Fay - Time of the Last Persecution
(http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/f/fay_bill~~~_timeofthe_101b.jpg)
There's a review here which sums it up pretty well http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/review/817
Check them out, you'll thank me.
Thank you indeed, the Bill Fay is great. Like the way I can't place it re; other artists/genres.
I like the fact that the chorus of the first song starts with "He said my climbing rope is broken.."
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Yars.
All over GENE CLARK's ~ No Other, this morn. This is great. In the same way that GRATEFUL DEAD's ~ American Beauty LP is great; very similar (sonically) these two discs.
Particularly enjoying the lap-steel, pressing my country-buttons good.
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Tell me about it. Over the last month this has been making strong moves towards my all-time top five album list. A genuine masterpiece, great voice, incredible guitar, lovely production.
Will have to check out the dead if its similar.
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Last week was Scott Walker (ex-Walker Brothers) week.
(http://www.eleventhvolume.com/miscellany/ims/scottwalkerthedrift.jpg)
Recluse; polymath; Man From W.T.F? Escapologist; Avant Gardist par excellence; Genius (easily). I have prepared an essential release file (his four tracks from The Walker Bros., Nite Flights LP ~ Tilt (solo) LP ~ The Drift (solo) LP. Alas no Climate of Hunter LP as I've yet to find online).
He's the guy who sang The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore back in '67 (?) who you probably haven't heard of since. Not the easiest of listening experiences (except Nite Flights) but certainly worthwhile.
As ever w/ sendspace - best in the AM or off-peak times.
H E R E (http://www.sendspace.com/file/5jpr4q)
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MOONDOG ~ Eponymous LP 1956 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8NI6DEMS)
(http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s12664.jpg)
Quite a character was Moondog: a far-out artist in any era nevermind 50's America. Check it out.
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I'm going with the retro feel. Forget Jeff, here's his dad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2NkUmIH83U
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Been listening to this slice of freakout jazzrock of late. It's really good. There are some tremendous grooves and jams going on here. Obviously you've got to be that way inclined to listen to this (leave those narrowminds at the door, please).
(http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/407337.jpg)
TOTO BLANKE ~ Spider's Dance LP (Germany 1975) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/22ewyt) (@ 256)
Background (http://www.alisorecords.de/HTML%20SEITEN/html_ARTISTS/Artists_Toto.html)
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Uncle Billy, Between the Wars. (Only video I could find, sorry).
Whilst I love "A New England" it has eclipsed his other anthems too much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HRSsLes8vE
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(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/Johnwilkesboo/deathspiritualhealingsmall.jpg)
Death's 1990 classic, "Spiritual Healing".
It's not typical bashing-the-snare, cookie monster vocals, but it is intense. Musically, leads abound, and Chuck Schuldiner's virtuosity takes the genre to a new level. Everything has a point, and the songs are focused and concise. I heavily recommend this to anyone who thinks metal is just a one trick pony, you'll be in for a surprise.
HERE @ 320 (http://www.mediafire.com/?81oenin1tjj)
Now I might be shit at rock climbing, but I know a thing or two about metal. Get some.
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Reminds me of my early scum-rock outfit, Thin Lash . . .
DEEP WOUND ~ Almost Complete (http://massmirror.com/352a403ed306923ec3e8fd2368bf3e34.html) 2006
(http://www.boomkat.com/media/stock_images/deepwound-almost.jpg)
Now here’s an interesting one – a collection of highschool recordings from none other than Dinosaur Jr.’s J Mascis in full-on hardcore mode with his early band Deep Wound. According to the liner notes, Deep Wound were hugely influential to the UKs grindcore scene popularised by Napalm Death among others and across the twenty seven tracks on ‘Almost Complete’ it’s easy to hear why. Although the band was influenced by the US hardcore of the early 80s, their raw edge gave them something slightly different, no doubt accentuated by the fact the band were so young. There’s an energy, a passion and a naivety to these short bursts of punk rock, and the grittiness of the recordings only serves to enhance that. Compiled from two 7”s and a demo cassette we can hear the development of the band from their early, badly recorded sessions to the proto-metal assault of their later work. Of course we know now that Mascis would go on to bigger and brighter things, but this work has stood the test of time and sounds as head mashing now as it no doubt did at the time. ‘Almost Complete’ is a devastating collection of work and is important for anyone with a passion for early hardcore and of course grindcore (come on, show yourselves!).
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GENE MARSHALL ~ Jimmy Carter Says Yes (http://www.sendspace.com/file/8vs5zu)
Awesomely neglected.
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Would be far too easy to put this in the Guitar Noise thread, for 'tis a mammoth-style masterpiece.
Japan's ZENI GEVA ~ Freedom Bondage (http://www.mediafire.com/?b4de3kdddjw) (Albini recording for Alternative Tentacles) 1995.
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/marquis_de_suave/Zeni_Geva_Freedom_Bondage.jpg)
Zeni Geva's sound has been variously described as noise rock, math rock, death metal, thrash metal, sludge metal, doom metal and industrial metal. Though it does indeed encompass the power chords, growled vocals, and sonic brutality of heavy metal* , the music has a rhythmic complexity (with some songs, for example, being in 13/8 meter), and has extreme dynamics that makes the math rock label an appropriate one. Null's commanding vocal delivery and powerful presence makes him a captivating frontman.
It is a perfect LP (of its type) instantly identifiable as Japanese (even w/ out vocals) . I've spent the last 15 years trying w/ out success to see this band live . . .
(* I'd say progressive psychedelic rock myself . . . )
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I should add by way of further selling this outrageous LP to you (for free) that some traditional instruments and organ are used in the recording and serve to make this an even more astonishing (in a traditional Japanese way).
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ZENI GEVA ~ Freedom Bondage (http://www.mediafire.com/?b4de3kdddjw) (Albini recording for Alternative Tentacles) 1995.
I'm sure this has been recommended here before which prompted me to buy it. It's well worth a further plug, a very fine racket indeed.
Back to page 5 and German Romanticism for a moment, anyone with a liking for Bruckner or Richard Strauss should try Franz Schmidt's 4th Symphony. The last of the great line?
It possibly doesn't count as a neglected masterpiece in Houdini-land, but it should be much better known in Anglophone countries.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51bim-yu%2BWL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
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Glad you bought it Freedom Bondage (though the CD mastering is pants and it sounds way better on LP) Yes, did plug before but never had a satisfactory mp3 to whet appetites w/.
Here is their snappily titled LP previous to Freedom Bondage, ZENI GEVA ~ Desire For Agony (http://www.mediafire.com/?ynjd3dj1tsj)
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_p651GzWPMco/SAUstuBAbKI/AAAAAAAAARQ/i6iRhgDx3Fo/s320/51308.jpg)
Less cohesive than Freedom Bondage but w/ a few absolute classic ZG tunes.
Their last release (Neurot Recordings, CD only) 10,000 Light Years is stellar.
I'll check out the Schmidt.
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An aquaintance has sorted me out w/ the SCOTT WALKER ~ Climate of Hunter LP .wav
Top notch sound quality. Taken me ages as a non-p2p user to nab this. One to keep. You should pounce on this and revel in his voice.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/da/Scott_Walker_-_Climate_of_Hunter.jpg/200px-Scott_Walker_-_Climate_of_Hunter.jpg)
HERE (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ui1rut)
Sendspace links live for 30 days after the last DL. No more.
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Why, with these downloads you are spoiling us. Already have the first Zeni Geva LP installed on the ipod. No my normal cup of tea but promising so far. Have you come across Japanese hardcore/post rock band Envy? Sound promising.
Have a terrible feeling I'm going to get expelled for this but having read an interview with Daevid Allen yesterday just had to go in search of some Gong This clip isn't great but has that tang of authenticity. They whip up quite a nice groove too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbm7IieLkBw
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You can't get expelled from your own thread Andy!
Zeni Geva are so rewarding when one gets the swede around the fact that it's tough angular music. The time patterns are amazing as is the fact that this band have been at the forefront of the Japanese underground for over 20 years and have - not once - ever compromised on either their sound or roots. Shi No Umi (the track on Freedom Bondage that starts w/ organs and acoustic guitars) is a song I never tire of. They've recently changed drummers (easily the hardest instrument in the rock format to master) and have not suffered at all. That's a phenomenal achievement as bad drummers are legion.
I'll try and find 10,000 Light Years if I can't find that I'll post a live CD of theirs which has the same tracklist as 10,000 ...
Envy? I'll check them out. My tendrills in the blogosphere run deep.
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I'm rediscovering just how f*cking good The Misfits and Glenn Danzig were. I've had a vinyl copy of Earth AD for about 20 years and always been fond of it but I found out it's really thrashy and shouty in comparison with their earlier singles and LP's. Static Age, Walk Among Us and The Singles Collecations are just fantastic.. Danzig sings like Elvis over a better version of The Damned, The Cramps and the bastard offspring of Eddie Cochran and Black Flag.
(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/LPG/51535~The-Misfits-Fiend-Skull-Posters.jpg)
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BIG' N ~ Discipline Through Sound (http://www.mediafire.com/?bozymmtdbfw) (Skingraft Records 1996)
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BIG' N bring it on ~ for the short time they lived they mined new territory in rock. Enjoy.
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Quite liked the Big'N. Anyway, was reading the other day about a 70s/80s band called Chrome Does anyone know them (Houdini, anyone?). Any good?
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Andy. I have just bobbed 'chrome' into the Mix-turtle website search engine http://mixturtle.com/ (http://mixturtle.com/) and it has brought up many of their tracks. The one I listened to was shit. But hey what does that mean. Good luck.
Roberto Stallioni
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Oh, I like Chrome.
And don't forget The Pop Group's "Y" from '79, back when Munkii was swimming in his Daddies' balls:
(http://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/P/pop_groupf.jpg)
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Just got Twin Peaks season 1 box set for fifteen quid. First time I've watched it since it was first broadcast and its just as good as I remember. As far as I'm aware its never been aired since - truly neglected.
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JERRY SADOWITZ ~ Gobshite LP (1987) (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?my1yomzygo3)
Legendary Scottish Stand-up comedian/magician's album which was swiftly withdrawn due to some dodgy and libellous jokes about Jimmy Saville being a paedophile. Great stuff!
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JERRY SADOWITZ ~ Gobshite LP (1987) (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?my1yomzygo3)
Legendary Scottish Stand-up comedian/magician's album which was swiftly withdrawn due to some dodgy and libellous jokes about Jimmy Saville being a paedophile. Great stuff!
Quality find Houd, was chatting with a mate the other day about how I'd not heard or seen much of Sadowitz in the last few years. Cheers for this :thumbsup:
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Just got Twin Peaks season 1 box set for fifteen quid. First time I've watched it since it was first broadcast and its just as good as I remember. As far as I'm aware its never been aired since - truly neglected.
did they ever release season 2 on dvd boxset? ive got the first but would be keen to watch the second again. wish they had continued it with some form of explaination as to what happened. or maybe the interest was in not knowing.
Cheers
Tim
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I remember losing interest for that very reason. It seemed a bit emperor's new clothes after a while.
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I'd not heard or seen much of Sadowitz in the last few years
www.jerrysadowitz.com (http://www.jerrysadowitz.com)
No doubt you will want to know the password for the Magician's Only section. I have it (but of course 8)) but I'll make you sweat it out for yourself.
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We all love The Beach Boys, I think we can take that as a given. And of course, going deeper, we all worship Brian Wilson as the great addled genius behind them. But how many of us give his brother Dennis the credit he's due?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51m9Ww5WZlL._AA240_.jpg)
This festive period I've been digging Dennis.
That Dennis was the second-best songwriter in the Beach Boys was amazing, as was the band's failure to appreciate him as such. Bursting with creativity, this album is the result of years of songwriting, only a small trickle of which wound up on Beach Boys records. An absolute classic, and so much better than anything the Boys did in the 70s up 'til this point (with the exception of "Sunflower," which is another Dennis showcase).
Posted this almost exactly a year ago. Now I don't like to crow [much] but this has just won reissue of the year in just about every single music mag. Check it out if you haven't already...
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Wish I had a copy of HARDCORE (starring George C Scott, 1979) to hand. Wicked film, here's my favourite clip starring Big Dick Blaque
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzfRaQUHpXQ&eurl=http://9one.blogspot.com/2008/05/im-big-dick-blaque.html&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzfRaQUHpXQ&eurl=http://9one.blogspot.com/2008/05/im-big-dick-blaque.html&feature=player_embedded)
Really worth finding.
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Re Pacicific Ocean Blue - wad to JB, great call. Enjoying now after picking it up today in fopp whilst supposedly looking for presents for other people...
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Nice. Our Fopp has shut down in Sheffield, not sure where I'll do my xmas shopping this year... it was a one stop job previously.
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I thought they'd all shut down? They over expanded by taking over all the Music Zone shops and went bust (this was pre "credit crunch" of course but no doubt would be blamed on it if it had happened now a la Woolworths :off:).
RIP indeed. Along with public houses it was the only thing that made shopping in town less of a chore. :'(
JB - now you have broadband I would have thought the answer to your xmas shopping conundrum was obvious! ;D
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The Glasgow and Edinburgh shops survived too. Bought out by HMV and kept a few stores open.
Old link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6923511.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6923511.stm)
Bet they were glad Zavvi didn't buy them out!
Sadly Aberdeen didn't survive, and they had just moved to bigger better premises :(
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I honestly don't know what the management were thinking. If there was one high st music retailer well placed to continue profitable trading despite the internet it was Fopp and they fucked it all up by over expansion (which is a schoolboy business error). Damn them and damn HMV for not saving the Sheffield shop which is now yet another shitty coffee chain shop of wankness and cunts.
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I would have a chain coffee shop over the expensive crap clothes shop (All Saints) that the Aberdeen shop now is. Although I am highly unlikely to set foot in either.
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We all love The Beach Boys, I think we can take that as a given. And of course, going deeper, we all worship Brian Wilson as the great addled genius behind them. But how many of us give his brother Dennis the credit he's due?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51m9Ww5WZlL._AA240_.jpg)
This festive period I've been digging Dennis.
That Dennis was the second-best songwriter in the Beach Boys was amazing, as was the band's failure to appreciate him as such. Bursting with creativity, this album is the result of years of songwriting, only a small trickle of which wound up on Beach Boys records. An absolute classic, and so much better than anything the Boys did in the 70s up 'til this point (with the exception of "Sunflower," which is another Dennis showcase).
Posted this almost exactly a year ago. Now I don't like to crow [much] but this has just won reissue of the year in just about every single music mag. Check it out if you haven't already...
Good call JB. I got this earlier in the year and have enjoyed it a good deal. There is one irritatingly jaunty track, but the rest of the album is really classic stuff.
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Good to hear y'all digging Dennis. As a christmas treat for all the Dennis fans, here's a couple more of my favourite Dennis tracks [actually I prefer them to anything on Pacific Ocean Blue];
River Song (http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~adamlong/River Song.mp3)
Forever (http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~adamlong/Forever.mp3)
I'll leave them up til Boxing day...
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Though a different version of riversong is the first track on POB? Hard to tell as it obviously sounds somewhat different when played through my hifi rather than via the 'speakers' on this laptop, but I think I like the album one better.
Still nice though, ta
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Neglected only in the sense that they've taken forty years to get released but just got the first two releases in the Neil Young archive performance series the other day; Live at Canterbury House, 1968 - intimate solo acoustic set - and with Crazy Horse Live at Fillmore East 1970 - down and dirty. Highly recommended for fans of the whiney, scratchy one.
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Though a different version of riversong is the first track on POB?
you're right, for some reason mine is labelled as being off the unreleased bamboo.
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Posted this almost exactly a year ago. Now I don't like to crow [much] but this has just won reissue of the year in just about every single music mag. Check it out if you haven't already...
On a further reissue tip, am currently much enjoying Robert Wyatt's lovely, eccentric Rock Bottom
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000006AXS.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
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On the back of a chemistry tip in another thread....Tom Lehrer :bow:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DYW50F42ss8 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DYW50F42ss8)
The equally brilliant "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=89yf-utLVfA (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=89yf-utLVfA)
Well worth seeking out his albums, they're genius.
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(http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/dre300/e330/e33011ipsb2.jpg) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ncj0eh)
The last LP Peel ever played in its entirety on his R1 show, 1993. Incredible stuff. Click on image. This is a re-issue w/ additional tracks.
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Just came across this. Class.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4uxIo4t7xM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4uxIo4t7xM)
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alice coltrane - 'a monastic trio'
accept it might be a bit jazz-club, but if anyone likes a bit of chin-stroking check this out, think its her first main album - have always been into her old fella, but only recently heard this stuff
(also 'journey in satchidananda' is awesome although think this is the better known masterpiece?)
Just got Journey in .... Beautiful, beautiful music. I'm in love. Also new to me the single track Pharaoh Sanders album Black Unity. More tripping space jazz, fantastic grooves. Not quite so sure about Trio of Doom, probably more fusion fretboard wankery than anyone really needs.
Picked up references to an interesting sounding book, Boris Vian, Foam of the Daze; anyone read this?
Cheers for the downloads Paul.
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Just been listening to Skylarking by XTC this afternoon. What a beautiful album from a great band.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Xtcsl2.jpg)
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^^ nice LP but not a patch on The Black Sea, I think.
Good that people still listen to XTC though, the first 5 or 6 LP's were incredible.
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Just finished a great book I'd not heard of till recently, Boris Vian's Foam of the Daze (L'Ecume des Jours in the original, pub 1947). A tender, funny and ultimately heartbreaking love story set in bizarre and increasingly dark dystopia that is both recognizably France and not France at all. Sci-fi, surrealism? Who knows, but brilliant.
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Boris Vian's I Spit On Your Graves is worth a read. It's pretty fucked up, lot's of sex and violence; a fast paced and easy to read pastiche on the American noir, tackling racial prejudice; how well it achieves this is another matter.
Made famous for all the controversy surrounding it. Boris claimed to have translated the work into French from a Black American writer whose book had been banned in the States; whereas Boris had spunked the whole thing out himself in as little as 2 weeks. Was pretty extreme stuff for the 50's, got branded filth, and subsequently became very popular. Was linked to a copycat murder, further increasing sales until eventually being banned. His book was loosely adapted for the big screen against his wishes and whilst attending the premiere he suffered a fatal heart attack and as is the usual procedure with fatal heart attacks he died.
Wouldn't class it as a masterpiece but certainly worth a read. Intended but never got round to reading Froth on the Daydream but it has just made my ticklist once again.
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Boris Vian's I Spit On Your Graves is worth a read. redpoint:
'J'irai cracher sur vos tombes'
And the previous:'foam of your days'?
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i fear that due to lack of publicity mr anthony d'offay's collection may not get the attention it deserves
i recommend the warhols at wolverhampton and walsall galleries
more details here (http://www.nationalgalleries.org/collection/ar_tour/4:6690)
anyway, gives me an excuse to tour this island over the coming months
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Have been listening to Martin Simpson's album Prodigal Son recently and am now looking for my next foray into his music. A taster here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMhYho7trGs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMhYho7trGs)
If you can find his version of Lakes of Champlain then he lays down some bo' folk too.
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I listened to Pulse Programming's (http://www.myspace.com/pulseprogramming) Blooms Eventually of their 2003 album Tulsa for One Second this afternoon and thought it was worth sharing. You can hear it on the MySpace page... a lovely delicate bit of pop electronica.
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JOSEPH CONRAD ~ Falk (A Novella) (http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/c/conrad/joseph/c75f/)
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Josh T. Pearson's fantastic new album Last of the Country Gentlemen (fantastic if you fancy some totally heartbroken country) has led me to Lift to Experience's incredible The Texas-Jerusalem Crossroads - 90 minutes of epic post rock drenched in apocalyptic religious imagery.
Anyone else heard this?
Fuck, revisiting this thread has made me miss Houdini. He was stellar.
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Forgot, here's the album cover ...
(http://slplpimages.free.fr/2009/lifttoexperience.jpg)
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pete tosh
legalize it
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Josh T. Pearson's fantastic new album Last of the Country Gentlemen (fantastic if you fancy some totally heartbroken country) has led me to Lift to Experience's incredible The Texas-Jerusalem Crossroads - 90 minutes of epic post rock drenched in apocalyptic religious imagery.
Anyone else heard this?
Fuck, revisiting this thread has made me miss Houdini. He was stellar.
M. Popp - you hit the pay dirt again. Had this album for years and it is amazing in it's breadth of sound and sheer scope for a three piece band. It is supposed to be a retelling of the bible IIRC though I never bothered to listen that carefully to see if that was true - I just enjoyed it as one of the best post rock records out there.
I had the sheer joy to see them at Leeds Festival many years ago at some ridiculously early time in the afternoon - 13.30 or something like that with about 20 other people - it was almost criminal but equally brilliant as it felt so exclusive. One of the two standout gigs of the festival along with Mogwai IMO.
There was also the fantastic scenario where Josh Pearson had sacked one of the other members in the band by sending him one of his cowboy boots and a letter stating that he was sacked through the post (lit. Giving him the boot). This led to the boot being auctioned on Ebay along with the letter (there were possibly threats of legal action as well but I may have imagined that last bit).
Guessing it must be the same Josh Pearson who has been played on R6 lately - keep catching the name and thinking it sounds familiar but haven't had the time to concentrate on what has been playing at the time. Will try to listen a bit more closely.
Also I miss Houdini - had some very mad chat sessions with him in the early hours of the morning at times but that said he was a very good recommender of music. Reminded me in some ways of John Peel - 99% of the time you could see why he liked what he recommended even if you thought it was rubbish.
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It is an incredible album that will, I think, go on revealing its depths. Thanks for the stories, though I'm jealous you got to see them.
I think it must be the same Josh Pearson you've been hearing on R6, the album is just out. This is pretty representative, its a great album if you fancy some very parched mournful country:
JOSH T. PEARSON - Woman, when i've raised hell (FD Acoustic session) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8CuwxE94F8#ws)
He's playing End of the Road in Sept - along with Mogwai and much much more.
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Neglect? Probably not. Masterpiece? Certainly. In any case, this is to my current taste
Renee Fleming - Strauss' 4 Last Songs - Im abendrot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppoqUVlKkBU#)
Here's the text:
Wir sind durch Not und Freude
gegangen Hand in Hand;
vom Wandern ruhen wir
nun überm stillen Land.
Rings sich die Täler neigen,
es dunkelt schon die Luft.
Zwei Lerchen nur noch steigen
nachträumend in den Duft.
Tritt her und laß sie schwirren,
bald ist es Schlafenszeit.
Daß wir uns nicht verirren
in dieser Einsamkeit.
O weiter, stiller Friede!
So tief im Abendrot.
Wie sind wir wandermüde--
Ist dies etwa der Tod?
We have gone through sorrow and joy
hand in hand;
Now we can rest from our wandering
above the quiet land.
Around us, the valleys bow;
the air is growing darker.
Just two skylarks soar upwards
dreamily into the fragrant air.
Come close to me, and let them flutter.
Soon it will be time for sleep.
Let us not lose our way
in this solitude.
O vast, tranquil peace,
so deep at sunset!
How weary we are of wandering---
Is this perhaps death?
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Having listened to almost nothing but Techno for the winter, a return to something more reflective, my favourite piece of piano music:
Rachmaninoff piano concerto No. 2 in C minor, Op. 18- Ashkenazy-Previn-Tempo 1 Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haFPBgsgBMw#)
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Thanks Cass:
MAMAS & PAPAS Go where you wanna go ( mono ) 1966 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzG-BP6RYko#)
"I tried so hard,
not to be the cryin' kind,
not to be the girl,
you left behind"
I am drunk, so apologies if this is not up to scratch, but this thread should not die.
And on a more refined note, this is AMAZING:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Ilia_Efimovich_Repin_%281844-1930%29_-_Volga_Boatmen_%281870-1873%29.jpg/1024px-Ilia_Efimovich_Repin_%281844-1930%29_-_Volga_Boatmen_%281870-1873%29.jpg)
Come back Houdini, we are a poor reflection of our former selves without you!
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What's the painting Duma? There's a couple I'd like to post in reply but have found decent images of them yet.
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I agree, this is a brilliant thread
"Spirit of the Beehive" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070040/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070040/) amazing haunting film that will stay with you for a while.
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DrsgEVcvAMM/Th1sfGr7JvI/AAAAAAAAAAQ/05X8fm5ZwPQ/s1600/edelfelt%2Bat%2Bsea.jpg)
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Some background. The painting above is Coming Home by Finnish Painter Albert Edelfelt. I was in the city art gallery in Gothenburg with a Finnish friend last summer when we came across it. My friend was delighted as it is her favourite painting and she had been longing to see it again but had no idea it was in that gallery. She was totally enraptured and I fell a little in love with it too. I like the composition but mostly I like the intensity of the girl's gaze and her composure and then the sense of relationship between the two figures.
When I came home I found the painting below (Stanhope Forbes' To the Fishing Grounds) in the Walker, Liverpool, and it seemed like an English counterpart, though setting out rather than returning.
(http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/picture-of-month/graphics/large/stanhope_forbes.jpg)
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Hi Andy, its Repin's "Barge Haulers on the Volga", I've never seen it in the flesh (think it's in St Petersburg) but there's a good big image on wikipedia. Actually now I look it up it's not neglected at all, I'm just culturally ignorant! Still, brilliant, I love the almost petulance of the youth's expression.
Not as taken by "To the Fishing Grounds" (though the wet deck of the lugger is beautifully done), but "Coming Home" is gorgeous, love the mirroring of the stances, as well as her glowering! I am a sucker for old fishing boat paintings though, having grown up on one. If you like this sort of thing a nice (unlikely) source is on the tins of fish from The Pilchard Works (http://www.pilchardworks.co.uk/), available from a supermarket near you...
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Duma - waddage for resurrecting this thread.
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Yeah, nice one Duma. I never knew this thread existed before JohnCale, Neu!,Swell Maps...Nice stuff. So I'll add some stuff here rather than on my other thread.
So, more neglected Japanese rock from the early '70s. This group never released any studio albums, hence the quality. Don't listen if you don't like feedback.
Les Rallizes Denudes - strong out deeper than the night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPXAAEqN8fY#)
From their snappily named album 'Heavier than a death in the family'
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Is that Keiji Haino (of Fushitsusha?)
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Nope, it's Takeshi Mizutani. The rest of the band were regularly changed when they played something different from instructed or Hijacked aircraft!
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Yes, thanks Duma, Ben, Ben and Fried
Still, brilliant, I love the almost petulance of the youth's expression.
And the way he chafes against the harness whilst the older men, all in shadow, are defeated.
Fried, I think you totally dominate the whole thread with your first post. Excellent stuff! Amazingly, it even seems to be obtainable on amazon!
I'm going to recommend a book, Ford Madox Ford's Parade's End (which actually encompasses four novels, they should be read as one though) - simply one of the most complex, brilliant, and moving books I've read.
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I thought you might like that Andy. I'm not sure if you caught the recommendation I put on another thread, but Satori by Flower travellin' band is also excellent.
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Wife just fucked off and left you, 'Blood on the tracks' don't cut it no more....
Peter Hammill- Betrayed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN0wxPeWWAg#)
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Only really neglected by me to be honest but Id never heard Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division before today. Its one of those albums that I wish I could have heard when it first came out because I think It would have been even more amazing in context.
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Keep'em coming.
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One amazing track from an amazing album. Written for Phil Lesh to sing, while his father was dying of cancer.
Grateful Dead - Box of Rain (Studio Version) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4SqDx1vi4c#)
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David Ackles - Montana Song (1971-1972) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H86zXPwJbFw#)
Criminally neglected. The American 'Brel' from the album 'American gothic'.
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I should put the cover too.
(http://pmcdn.priceminister.com/photo/David-Ackles-American-Gothic-CD-292413407_ML.jpg)
it's nice.
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Cover art, now we're talking...
Late for the Sky:
(http://www.theuncool.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/lateforthesky.jpg)
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Wow, Fried, that's incredible stuff. And truly neglected, I'm sure I've never heard that name before. The CD seem to be incredibly expensive, so much as it would be nice to have the cover and notes it'll have to be the MP3 - downloading now.
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You can pick it up much cheaper on vinyl if you have a turntable, should be able to find it for a tenner.
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Criminally neglected. The American 'Brel' ....
Scott Walker - Jackie - Jacques Brel cover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKtZf62BQzM#)
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One amazing track from an amazing album. Written for Phil Lesh to sing, while his father was dying of cancer.
I love this song.
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Can't beat a bit of Scott Walker. This is one of my favourites from Scott 4. The video is errm pretty crap but..
Scott Walker, Duchess (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Hbdb6EgLs#)
Although not really neglected (at least round my gaff).
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Cover art, now we're talking...
Late for the Sky:
(http://www.theuncool.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/lateforthesky.jpg)
I was going to post a link to some of this stuff before but never got round to it.
http://www.coverbrowser.com/covers/worst-album-covers (http://www.coverbrowser.com/covers/worst-album-covers)
Not that I'm 'dissing your cover just came to mind that's all.
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The CD seem to be incredibly expensive, so much as it would be nice to have the cover and notes it'll have to be the MP3 - downloading now.
Probably too late (http://www.netsoundsmusic.com/googlebase/495312744.html).
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Just been listening to this. One of my missus favourites.
Jacques Brel - Ces Gens La (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfwW76JzVQI#)
Sleep now.
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brilliant phrasing. you can see where Scott Walker got his inspiration. I was always a fan of 'Ca va' - worth seeking out.
The next genius interpreter of the chanson:
Serge Gainsbourg - Les Sucettes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nr0dUcrAU0#noexternalembed)
Not his best song, but typical of his seedy subversiveness.. Apparently France Gall, a big hit back then, thought she was singing about a girl called Annie who liked lollipops. bless.
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Neglected Masterpieces / Hidden Gems?
This should be good.
http://www.aagm.co.uk/Exhibitions/Current/From-Van-Gogh-to-Vettriano.aspx (http://www.aagm.co.uk/Exhibitions/Current/From-Van-Gogh-to-Vettriano.aspx)
Worth a look if anyone is in Aberdeen city centre with a few hours to spare.
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Giant Sand-Yer Ropes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92fTQ77RZM0#)
Just because I'm going to see him next week and they always used to be one of the best live bands ever.
From the album 'Glum'
This is excellent and much better than the album version IMO.
Giant Sand (Howe Gelb) - Love Is Like A Train - LIVE 1989 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cx2HU7rzWk#)
Best drummer in the world too!
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Last week's obituaries sent me in search of this,
LADY WITH THE BRAID (1971) - Dory Previn Vs Don Draper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE4rExrR19M#ws)
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Brilliant :2thumbsup:
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Props to Stuart Maconie's Freak Zone show on 6 for this:
(http://cdn4.pitchfork.com/albums/573/homepage_large.ecd162e1.jpg) (http://www.pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/577-the-disintegration-loops-i-iv/)
William Basinski: The Disintegration Loops I-IV
2062; 2003 (Review from Pitchfork.com)
You are slowly being destroyed. It's imperceptible in the scheme of a day or a week or even a year, but you are aging, and your body is degrading. As your cells synthesize the very proteins that allow you to live, they also release free radicals, oxidants that literally perforate your tissue and cause you to grow progressively less able to perform as you did at your peak. By the time you reach 80, you will literally be full of holes, and though you'll never notice a single one of them, you will inevitably feel their collective effect. Aging and degradation are forces of nature, functions of living, and understanding them can be as terrifying as it is gratifying.
It's not the kind of thing you can say often, but I think William Basinski's Disintegration Loops are a step toward that understanding-- the music itself is not so much composed as it is this force of nature, this inevitable decay of all things, from memory to physical matter, made manifest in music. During the summer of 2001, Basinski set about transferring a series of 20-year-old tape loops he'd had in storage to a digital file format, and was startled when this act of preservation began to devour the tapes he was saving. As they played, flakes of magnetic material were scraped away by the reader head, wiping out portions of the music and changing the character and sound of the loops as they progressed, the recording process playing an inadvertent witness to the destruction of Basinski's old music.
The process may be the hook for this sprawling four-disc set, but the loops themselves are stunning, ethereal studies in sound so fluid that the listener scarcely registers the fact that it's nothing but many hundreds of repetitions of a brief, simple loop that they're hearing. I imagine that life within the womb might sound something akin to these slowly swelling, beauteous snatches of orchestral majesty and memory-haze synthesizer. The pieces are uniformly consonant, embellished with distant whalesong arpeggios and echoing percussion.
In essence, Basinski is improvising using nothing so much as the passage of time as his instrument, and the result is the most amazing piece of process music I've ever heard, an encompassing soundworld as lulling as it is apocalyptic...
"The Disintegration Loop" - William Basinski (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhfKK547r94#)
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Wish the loop was looped again.
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Lief Inge: 9BeetStretch. Beethoven's 9th symphony stretched to 24 hours without pitch distortion.
9 b e e t s t r e t c h (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-CFZ8p84eo#)
Continuous stream (http://www.park.nl/park_cms/public/index.php?thisarticle=118)
'Live' event Newcastle 1st March (http://Inge)
The app (http://www.harsmedia.com/SoundBlog/Archief/00703.php)
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Nice drones, although I could do with playing the Beethoven at ear-splitting volume. Could also be in 'photo shop hall of shame' too :jab:.
More drone - I'm reading 'rip it up and start again' so a bit of a post punk connection.
Glenn Branca - Symphony 5 (live @ the Kitchen) PART 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ICzLvJAoQM#ws)
10 minutes long too.
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In a small room in the Walker, Liverpool, completely unannounced, no special attention given, is this painting:
(http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/picture-of-month/graphics/large/rembrandt_self-portrait.jpg)
Obviously as a Rembrandt its hardly neglected but everytime I go there I'm astounded by it and by the way it just sits there among the other paintings. Loads of people wander through that room without even noticing it.
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Masters of Reality first album "Masters of Reality" 1990
every track's a winner
here are 3
Masters Of Reality - John Brown (audio only) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WMgIpaVG6c#ws)
Masters Of Reality - The Candy Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijC3KsZMz4#)
Masters of Reality - Domino (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL5IcnD9gqo#)
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:thumbsup: I had this on cassette and wore it out and _love_ this album. I recently found out they are wrapped up in the Kyuss/QOTSA desert rock thing.
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I had this on cassette and wore it out
me too
I seem to remember it got 10 out of 10 in Kerrang's review
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Obviously as a Rembrandt its hardly neglected but everytime I go there I'm astounded by it and by the way it just sits there among the other paintings. Loads of people wander through that room without even noticing it.
Sudley house had some Stubbs and a Constable IIRC. They move the collections about though so it's lucky dip! Well worth a look over anyway, it was George Mellie's gran's till she bequethed to the city. He used to play there.
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I listened to this last night for probably the first time in 18 years, after a reference on a TV programme made me think of it.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61SSBKYBFQL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Still sounds amazing, and I could still remember most if it word for word and note for note.
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I remember seeing the House of Love in Blackburn, excellent concert and the best thing that's ever happened to me there.
This is very good from one of the sacked halves of the Fall.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nVrf9YP2-s4/TRm4x_425PI/AAAAAAAABd4/VCL96BzuKmc/s400/blue%2Borchids.jpg)
Blue Orchids - Disney Boys (Vinyl) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyEeYSEPm0Y#)
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http://youtu.be/newQP0lfePI (http://youtu.be/newQP0lfePI)
http://youtu.be/XAOpza25YsE (http://youtu.be/XAOpza25YsE)
Two from The Monochrome Set ......... Saw them on friday night and was pleasantly surprised at how witty, charming and louche they still are .......
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Been enjoying myself a bit of this ...
Laura Nyro - Eli's comin' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfW41eKUkKE#)
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You might like this....I have to be in the right mood for it. From her first self titled album.
Judee Sill - Crayon Angels 1971 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvtjRarucTc#)
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Butt2hVdyzg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Butt2hVdyzg)
Yet another singer/ songwriter beginning with the letter 'A'. I believe Clive James co-wrote this.
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The start tomorrow of the BBC's adaptation seems the perfect opportunity to praise to high heaven Ford Madox Ford's Parade's End - one of the greatest British novels of the twentieth-century and criminally under-known.
No idea what the adaptation will be like but they've clearly tried to stuff all the 'racy' bits in the trailer - which is not, for me, representative of the atmosphere of the books (its four vols.)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00xnjcl (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00xnjcl)
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These dark, cold winter nights are perfect for a few of M.R. James' brilliant ghost stories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._R._James (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._R._James)). Quintessentially English.
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I bought this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Caspar-David-Friedrich-Johannes-Grave/dp/3791346288) for myself as an early Christmas present after being introduced to the artist on this thread a few years ago.
Review here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/bookreviews/9555615/Caspar-David-Friedrich-by-Johannes-Grave-review.html)
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To my shame I haven't spent much time on this thread so apologies if this is a re-post but...
I simply can't get enough of Heartbreaker (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heartbreaker-Ryan-Adams/dp/B00004XSKU/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1355397556&sr=1-1) by Ryan Adams. Despite having most of his stuff, I keep coming back to this album for it's sheer simplicity and heartfelt blues based soul-y feel...
Still can't listen to this
In My Time of Need (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg78SP6l8i0#)
with a dry eye. Can't even put my finger on why either...
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I simply can't get enough of Heartbreaker (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heartbreaker-Ryan-Adams/dp/B00004XSKU/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1355397556&sr=1-1) by Ryan Adams. Despite having most of his stuff, I keep coming back to this album for it's sheer simplicity and heartfelt blues based soul-y feel...
My favourite album.
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Another year and some more stuff that shouldn't be forgotten.
Babble dead dying gone.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xph5MeUC7k#ws)
Worth checking out the reaction to this album and show, back in the day. I'm still not sure about putting the photos in the clip.
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Cheers Fried. I've always been aware of Kevin Coyne but have never really heard any or known where to start.
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I find the above album difficult to listen to in its entirety because I'm not a great fan of Dagmar Krause's style of singing on it.
The album Marjory Razorblade is a good place to start listening to Kevin Coyne.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_k7xtsGiVrJM/SnGJz8HzTqI/AAAAAAAADtc/4RpMcjQvzSE/s400/KevinCoyneMarjoryRazorblade.jpeg)
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At least I've learned where the name of the route at Dunkeld comes from. Every day's a schoolday.
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As always, not really neglected, but hey, I've been drinking.
Jackson Browne - Doctor My Eyes + lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqFUmo8VVg0#)
Jackson Browne Late For The Sky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqYiHkx7ils#)
CARMELITA - WARREN ZEVON (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9L8jLPE84g#)
Warren Zevon - Lawyers, Guns, and Money (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgyMUChgcbU#)
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Has this been posted?
Nick Drake - Pink Moon - 1972 - Full Album (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL1zA2yAstQ#ws)
So Subterranean Homesick Alien comes from Parasite I guess.
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Is Nick Drake neglected?? Seems fairly ubiquitous these days
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I'm home alone, so I can indulge my depressing 70's singer/ songwriter penchant.
Kevin Ayers "The Confessions Of Doctor Dream - A. Irreversible Neural Damage" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VwtGkpwXPA#ws)
I'll put up some Yes soon if noone starts contributing :jab:.
Nico is magnificent in this. Even better when psychically disturbed.
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Have been annoying people on Twitter with Shack albums and I thought I'd do the same here :)
HMS Fable is my favourite, absolutely brilliant... http://grooveshark.com/# (http://grooveshark.com/#)!/album/H+M+S+Fable/8111807
Stand out track for me is Comedy
Shack - Comedy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FP_dGyCq7I#)
Here Comes Tom with the Weather is not quite as good but still excellent... http://grooveshark.com/# (http://grooveshark.com/#)!/album/Here+s+Tom+With+The+Weather/8115314
Check them out!
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And here's the best track (IMHO) off Here's Tom with the Weather...
SHACK - Miles Apart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThEO7V10JbI#)
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I used to love the Waterpistol album, I'll have to dust it off and give it a spin. (Metaphorically speaking, it's on mp3 somewhere).
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Good call Fatneck. I'm going to nominate a book L.P. Hartley's The Go-Between.Everyone knows the famous and wonderful opening sentence ('The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there') but seems much less actually read. Its a brilliant book; enthralling, disturbing, beautiful. I'm so glad I finally got round to it.
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Just bought some vinyl in Manc on a day trip up from darn sarrf...
Comus - First Utterance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Utterance) very, very, eerie, disturbing pysch/folk premier from 1971 in a double gatefold edition pressed in 180g vinyl. They are playing with Judy Collins at the Scala in September and I have a ticket already.
Hannibal - The Tribe http://youtu.be/snZrGZFG-WQ (http://youtu.be/snZrGZFG-WQ). Copies of this used to change hands for a couple of grand until Marvin Peterson compelled 'Men With Beards' to re-cut the acetates and pull off a 100 copies for the fans of spiritual and atomic blast free jazz. One for the Alice Coltrane, Albert Ayler, Sun Ra, Pharoah Saunders fans.
America - John Fahey's classic double, again on 180g double gatefold with the original booklet with the Voice of the Turtle. Sounds waaaaaayyyyyy better than the crappily mastered CDs from the 90s. Depth, breadth and majesty.
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Good call Fatneck. I'm going to nominate a book L.P. Hartley's The Go-Between.Everyone knows the famous and wonderful opening sentence ('The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there') but seems much less actually read. Its a brilliant book; enthralling, disturbing, beautiful. I'm so glad I finally got round to it.
Was our final year English book at school. I remember enjoying it immensely but not admitting it at the time!
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fatneck, Comedy is the track that drew me to Shack, and my word, what a track! FD - wow... Just back from yet another flying visit to London and wish I could make a week of work, visit you and gigs / nights out. It'll happen ;)
I feel compelled to make a recommendation and mine are quite recent and should perhaps belong in FFFF-funky fresh or Hit me up with some Hip Hop but, I feel these guys are definitely neglected and have some absolute masterpieces in the canon, all taken from today's flying train in and out of London soundtrack:
First, for a lover of the MPC, Ta-Ku (https://soundcloud.com/takugotbeats), whose album 'Beat Sketches vol.1' is just sublime, superbly listenable, the whole damn album is catchy and innovative and who I first heard via '50 days for Dilla' - Fairy Tale (a tribute to Jun)...
http://youtu.be/tNBgdCcYMs8 (http://youtu.be/tNBgdCcYMs8)
'a tribute to' Jun, being the late, great Japanese producer Jun Seba Nujabes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nujabes), diverse hiphop I love, yet dare play to the children, just wonderful
http://youtu.be/P1ypzqFY1Mw (http://youtu.be/P1ypzqFY1Mw)
Neil Cowley Trio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Cowley)
I first heard this guy years ago I suppose as he was on keys for the Brand New Heavies and Zero 7 but I never noticed... but then I heard this during my brief foray as the shit funk DJ on a local radio programme:
(apologies in advance for the Jools content)
http://youtu.be/t9S--20Q9CQ (http://youtu.be/t9S--20Q9CQ)
The most recent album 'The Face of Mount Molehill' has this beauty as its first track....
http://youtu.be/dLCjcylU7dc (http://youtu.be/dLCjcylU7dc)
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'a tribute to' Jun, being the late, great Japanese producer Jun Seba Nujabes, diverse hiphop I love, yet dare play to the children, just wonderful
Awesome man, simply beautiful...
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Joan Baez - Silver Dagger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xlmb8gG7HU#)
Apparently this is based on an English folk song from the 1800's, it may be well known by people with better taste than me, but I only came across after my friend Sam covered it:
Serious Sam Barrett and David Broad - Silver Dagger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHsFtc5M834#ws)
Love the lyrics, so evocative.
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Good posts this week.
Nice Stubbs - seems like there a bunch of versions around the same melody - my own favourite is by Gene Clark (who else?) and Carla Olson:
GENE CLARK and CARLA OLSON Fair and tender ladies / Lover's turnaround 1987 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G68e61fCnaU#)
HMS Fable was one of the few albums I ever bought purely on the strength of a (fawning NME) review. Loved Comedy too, and Cornish Town. Had the album on constant rotation on a trip to Skye just after I graduated. Later in Leeds, we used to do drunken karaoke versions of Comedy, complete with overwrought scouse accents, with Ellie's and her best mate's boyfriend (from Birkenhead) on guitar - good times. Loved some of Waterpistol too, but never got on with the later stuff. The earlier Pale Fountains stuff is worth checking out too.
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Some fine music on here this week. You guys are like the friends cool older brother or sister we had when we were younger opening our minds..
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Let's have Comedy on the thread for those who haven't had the pleasure:
http://youtu.be/6FP_dGyCq7I (http://youtu.be/6FP_dGyCq7I)
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You guys are like the friends cool older brother or sister we had when we were younger opening our minds..
+1
Let's have Comedy on the thread for those who haven't had the pleasure
Ahem....
Stand out track for me is Comedy
Shack - Comedy
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:-[ ;D
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Me and my missus also played HMS Fable to death for a few years - lovely album.
I reckon Cherry Ghost has a similar feel. Love this track:
Cherry Ghost - "4am" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXi6hg90LUU#)
and this one:
Cherry Ghost - "Mathematics" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhCkcBharUM#)
and this one:
Cherry Ghost - "Mathematics" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhCkcBharUM#)
Saw a local busking band in Whitby and Robin Hood's Bay last summer sing a few Cherry Ghost songs and was struck by how powerful the songs were, even when they were stripped right down. I confess I was glassing over...
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Some cracking stuff on here. Hadn't heard Shack before, good stuff and it really reminded me of another band who never seem to get the recognition they should (here anyway, they're massive in Ireland) Bell X1.
Their 2003 album Music In Mouth definitely qualifies as a masterpiece imo, one of my favourite albums ever which includes this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZEjUY2zcR8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZEjUY2zcR8)
and this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocuH98Z8pYA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocuH98Z8pYA)
and this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56xUUpieEk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56xUUpieEk)
not to mention this which is just fabulous and beautiful and I will never tire of hearing.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5hRa_l9VAE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5hRa_l9VAE)
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Just chatting to my mate and he tells me he did this 15 years ago (he played the horns and sampled the rest)
http://youtu.be/WS-lKH3Xm-w (http://youtu.be/WS-lKH3Xm-w)
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Last one before the autumn. The Pere ubu version doesn't really qualify as a 'neglected' massterpiece, but the 'original' version, in that this group spawned Pere ubu and the dead boys, blows the Pere ubu version out of the water.
Rocket From the Tombs - 30 Seconds Over Tokyo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBJGBk3mR4o#)
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Loving the Cherry Ghost and Bell X1 shizzle... Keep it coming troops...
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I don't really think this is strictly a case for 'neglected masterpieces' as such, but I sure missed the band and have never really heard much hype about them compared to contemporaries - but I have really loved listening to and reading about The Durutti Column and Vini Reilly this week. I'm glad really as I don't think I would have 'got it' a few years ago... suffice to say a massive eye opener
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I don't really think this is strictly a case for 'neglected masterpieces' as such, but I sure missed the band and have never really heard much hype about them compared to contemporaries - but I have really loved listening to and reading about The Durutti Column and Vini Reilly this week. I'm glad really as I don't think I would have 'got it' a few years ago... suffice to say a massive eye opener
The very definition of NM I would say. A band I've always known about but not really listened to. Where did you start?
Very excited that in a week's time I'll be seeing Robert Wyatt, someone else who epitomises NM - though, alas, he's only doing a talk rather than playing/singing. I started this thread with a post about John Cale and at the same event I'll be getting a chance to see him perform too.
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For me, totally, but I have been assuming maybe incorrectly that I just missed the boat on this one due to lack of coverage compared to their contemporaries - I started with 'The Guitar and Other Machines' and 'Pol in B' is a standout track, for me.
Love Robert Wyatt, although in spite of the non-peformance I've always loved to hear him speak, if nothing else I love his accent but also he seems so laid back yet humorous, thoughtful and non-affected. Stoic too, after a documentary I watched recently when his wife talked about him.
I must admit John Cale is almost unknown to me, now on my list, and someone I'd narrow mindedly always avoided because I never really liked Lou Reed.
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Thanks UG.
Sad to report the Robert Wyatt talk has been cancelled. I'll have to make do with another chance to see Patti Smith.
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I started with 'The Guitar and Other Machines' and 'Pol in B' is a standout track, for me.
That's where I started too, though I think 'Bordeaux sequence' is the one I go back for the most.
If you haven't already, I'd move on to 'The return of...' - Sketch for a summer was almost a hit at the height of Madchester. But its a big back catalogue and sorely in need of a good retrospective - if you've got Spotify there's a lot to go at. I'd say big standout tracks are rare, but at the same time there are very few turkeys. As Wilson famously said, 'it's good music to chill out to'.
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It's not Carmelita, but then nothing is...
Warren Zevon - I Was In the House When the House Burned Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MefNV-XZs5g#)
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I've bought some really great re-released neglected masterpieces on vinyl lately.
Comus - First Utterance. A classic psych/folk/prog album from 1970. Really unusual and much darker and eerie than the Fairport, Pentangle take on folk rock.
Witch - Introduction. A Zambian (zamrock) band from the early seventies. Inspired by Hendrix, James Brown and the garage/psych California west coast sound. Really funky jams with a gritty fuzz.
Lucifer Rising - Bobby Beausoleil. This one has a dark history. Kenneth Anger picked Bobby Beausoleil to play the part of Lucifer, the fallen angel, in his new movie Lucifer Rising. Beausoleil accepted on the condition that he write and perform the soundtrack but before filming started he stabbed a drug dealer in a fight and was jailed awaiting sentence. A few weeks later, his chums the Manson family went on their Helter Skelter killing spree and buy association he was included in the sentencing. After a couple of years, Anger contacted Beausoleil in jail to ask him if he could still record the sountrack. Beausoleil managed to persuade the authorities to allow him to form a band and hand built the recording equipment producing some amazing jams. Anger changed his mind and then asked Jimmy Page (through their shared interest in Thelema) to write it, but Page never delivered. Anyway, Ajna records have released a 4x LP box set of the original score and other material and it's brilliant. The boxed set itself is a work of art, each record is pressed in coloured vinyl and there's a load of written material too. Great music and a fascinating true-life story.
Akira Kurosawa's Sountracks - Wow... the soundtrack to Rashomon is just beautiful. Four slabs of 180g vinyl with the scores from Rashomon, The Seven Samurai, Throne of Blood, Ikuru and The Hidden Fortress. Like Kurosawa, the composer Hayasaka was inspired heavily by European influences and the combination of these with a Japanese orchestra is really intriguing. Great stuff.
A Tribute to Conny Plank - Various. Not really neglected per se, but a compilation of 'Krautrock' producer Plank's most interesting efforts with the various artists he worked with.
Hannibal - The Tribe. Re-issued as this was changing hands for up to $20k on eBay. A 1979 spiritual Jazz album a la Pharoah Sanders and Phil Ranelin. Lovely.
I've got all my records back from 'home' now and plan to do some mixes that I'll put up on t'internet somewhere for your listening pleasure.
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I gave that Comus album a listen and the music sounds good, but unfortunately I just can't get passed the vocals. I'll give it another listen. One of the most melacholly things I've heard in a while.
Thought you might like this Krautprogrock. It's being reissued on vinyl in September. The origanal fetches silly money.
Helicopter - Sand (Golem) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM-Fa1YhU38#)
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Nice.... never heard of them before. I shall seek out the whole album. On a related note, there's a great fourty-years-on appraisal of Space Ritual on The Quietus this week.
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Lots to report tonight so bear with me if I go on a Friday night rant..
Tonight I'm revisiting
'The Hazards of Love' by The Decemberists
which I bought and lost when it came out - I hesitate to call it a 'prog rock tour de force' as the phrase has stuck in my throat after reading Hawley's Standing at The Sky's Edge (which I still think is shit) described as such and then a twat of a work colleague repeating it...
but anyway, it's brilliant, have a listen (the longer it's playing the more 'ooooh' moments I'm having)
This week has been a good one for Neglected Masterpieces, I've been really loving the
Wave Pictures' 'Instant Coffee Baby' which I totally missed when it was released, heard Dutch Uncles - 'Dutch uncles' for the first time (which sound very much like Field Music to me so they make the list too)
Futureheads 'Rant' I totally love and have been listening to for months since seeing them perform Richard Thompson's 'Beeswing' at the St. Pancras Station Sessions
http://youtu.be/NYHfF_4aMyc (http://youtu.be/NYHfF_4aMyc)
(that also reminds me of
The Morning Orchestra
The Morning Orchestra Lucky Star Basement Sessions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV_FhQmupp0#ws)
but haven't heard / seen much from them since
Since I was in Lleyn last week I played loads of [
b]Cowbois Rhos Botwnnog[/b]
http://youtu.be/N93mT6pqRAk (http://youtu.be/N93mT6pqRAk)
Then a couple of tracks, first one I heard on TOTP2 by chance while I was staying up late aimlessly burning twigs on the fire:
Bobby Goldsboro 'Summer (the first time)'
http://youtu.be/-tDDL1RxXRc (http://youtu.be/-tDDL1RxXRc)
and instantly loved it,
and when I played it to a friend she recommended a track from the Django unchained soundtrack,
Jim Croce 'I Got a Name'
http://youtu.be/wmKd_P1qGIA (http://youtu.be/wmKd_P1qGIA)
Finally, (one for Johnny Brown) I actually heard Jehovahkill for the first time and wondered why on earth I've ignored Julian Cope till now....
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Finally, (one for Johnny Brown) I actually heard Jehovahkill for the first time and wondered why on earth I've ignored Julian Cope till now....
Easy Done, I own several JC albums but still manage to neglect them for months or years at a time. Usually listen in fairly exclusive short bursts, good stuff to rediscover over and over again.
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Finally, (one for Johnny Brown) I actually heard Jehovahkill for the first time and wondered why on earth I've ignored Julian Cope till now....
Easy Done, I own several JC albums but still manage to neglect them for months or years at a time. Usually listen in fairly exclusive short bursts, good stuff to rediscover over and over again.
You know which album you need to listen to :whistle:
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Today I have been listening to the incomparable Anne Briggs.
SHE MOVED THROUGH THE FAIR (1963) by Anne Briggs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dyUsXgL7ow#ws)
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Just stumbled across the very amazing Avett Brothers... The album "I and Love and You" is simply stunning. Stand out track for me is The Laundry Room...
http://youtu.be/IthXOVp-K5I (http://youtu.be/IthXOVp-K5I)
Disclaimer - this may not be "neglected" by anyone else but me, but I'm so blown away by them and I've never heard of them before hence their inclusion here...
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Title track of the album is worth a listen also...
I and Love and You - The Avett Brothers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrsgIEBwIZM#ws)
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Simply stunning...
http://youtu.be/zaE-sBJQixg (http://youtu.be/zaE-sBJQixg)
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A name I've not heard in ages! A friend was really into him and played his stuff all the time. I used to think it was shit, but my tastes have matured somewhat. Thanks.
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Cheers, although on reflection I think I actually prefer this version!
http://youtu.be/6hJwW3f1P-g (http://youtu.be/6hJwW3f1P-g)
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Hmmm, thought I recognised this when you posted the Jim Croce version, but I'd never even heard of him. Now, I'm wondering if the Avett Brothers did this cover at green man 2011... Andy, did you catch this set? Thanks anyway, thoroughly enjoyed both versions.
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I remember my Dad blaring this one out of his speakers when I was younger. He used to try and sing along too...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBRt9M2OEL0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBRt9M2OEL0)
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Hmmm, thought I recognised this when you posted the Jim Croce version, but I'd never even heard of him. Now, I'm wondering if the Avett Brothers did this cover at green man 2011... Andy, did you catch this set? Thanks anyway, thoroughly enjoyed both versions.
I think I might have been but honestly can't say for sure. Hadn't heard of Jim Croce before either but kind of enjoyed that.
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On the Jim Croce tip, I know/have heard this before but can't for the life of me place it?
http://youtu.be/hHVBzLGAIbU (http://youtu.be/hHVBzLGAIbU)
Edit - Django Unchained!
Loved that Pat Metheny Group tune Footwork! Thanks...
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I was going to post 'Hamburger Lady' by TG but decided to sleep on it. It would have spoiled the aesthetic.
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:whistle: :coffee: :hug:
On the Jim Croce tip, I know/have heard this before but can't for the life of me place it?
http://youtu.be/hHVBzLGAIbU (http://youtu.be/hHVBzLGAIbU)
Edit - Django Unchained!
Loved that Pat Metheny Group tune Footwork! Thanks...
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I was going to post 'Hamburger Lady' by TG but decided to sleep on it. It would have spoiled the aesthetic.
Yeah, Houdini would be spinning in his...
Mind you I like a nice bit of country cheese. Might spin a bit of Carol King tonight.
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Just stumbled across the very amazing Avett Brothers... The album "I and Love and You" is simply stunning. Stand out track for me is The Laundry Room...
The Avetts are a class act, I think 10,000 words is my favourite from that album.
They've got a bunch o good stuff, I remember really digging 'The Gleam' EP a few years back.
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This thread is a beauty, i reckon this belongs here
Smog - The Well (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8VLdOGtG1g#ws)
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Just having a Richard James / Euros Childs / Gorky's love-in by candlelight and although anything related to my time living in Wales doesn't take much recommending, RJ is definitely a candidate for totally underrated,
'Pictures in the Morning' is a masterpiece - 'Sun Ease Pain' has some lovely guitar that reminds me of Nick Drake, and Gorky's 'The Blue Trees', and 'Say it ain't no lie' is lovely and understated. The whole album is great but these two tracks running into each other is lovely.
I've only heard bits of the Euros Childs / Norman Blake collab 'Jonny' before but now I have the entire album and although it's nothing more than exactly what you'd expect from the two together - the country tinged, upbeat, happy strolling arms swinging non-noisy Gorkys and later-era less metally Fannies - it's like they are made for each other. Bloody brilliant. Probably 80/20 Childs to Blake ratio but I don't mind that - although I reckon 'Candyfloss' is straight down the middle:
Jonny - Candyfloss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDeZPvn_EDA#ws)
Euros runs hot and cold I reckon (much like Gorky's did) and I wasn't that into Chops (some good tracks like 'Circus Time')
More recently I've loved a couple of tracks (not bought the albums yet - them: being on his label, can't find them to buy on Amazon and being a Spotify whore and they aren't on there; plus living just outside wanky Sheffield where there's only one remaining 'record shop' that's a pain in the arse to get to during my usual operating hours and a PITA to park near, means I'd rather not risk the dosh on stuff that just might have several decent songs and some shit ones with poodles barking recorded on a Casio PT1...
Here they are anyway, before I start off on one:
Euros Childs - That's Better (official video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9jlcBQcDw#ws)
http://youtu.be/0fMkoR-Oenc (http://youtu.be/0fMkoR-Oenc)
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I always find him a bit too Welsh.
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It sounds like you're looking for Euros recommendations UG? By far the best and most consistent of the four albums I have is 'The Miracle Inn'. Some really lovely, quite poignant stuff and every track is good. Highly recommended.
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To a new year of new stuff.
From Vivian Stanshall's classic 1974 album 'Men opening umbrellas ahead'
'Bout of Sobriety' by Vivian Stanshall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuPC0NEfBIY#)
Listen to the whole album. Comedy, spoken word, dick obsessed manic depressive music hall.
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Strolling through Crackerfarm's channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnx6v4nROV5sxTBL3nud7oA) on Youtube, I came across Nathan Reich (http://nathanreichmusic.com/). The guy has S.O.U.L.
Islands, (the second song on here) is particularly just beautiful...
http://youtu.be/6Q3A1NQFn6s (http://youtu.be/6Q3A1NQFn6s)
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Going back to Ryan Adams for a moment I just found this playlist of the Suicide Handbook. Only got this as a dodgy download of live sings so lovely to hear it here. Some stunning songs. Amazed more didn't make it onto Gold...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRRvDHjKxHM&list=PL75FA2AFB72243022 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRRvDHjKxHM&list=PL75FA2AFB72243022)
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Bump...
Just discovered a playlist of Shack's infamous lost album (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterpistol_%28album%29) Waterpistol... Amazing!!
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRLrKLtPGSyRC4V_OF30mmdTcG0PNwOcw
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Not been a fan of Sun Kil Moon for long (he's a bit weird and takes some getting used to I think) but his new album "Universal Landscapes" was released yesterday and is streaming live from his website today. I'm only a few tracks in but loving it so far...
http://www.sunkilmoon.com/skmuniv2015/
*Not sure this post really fits the bill of "neglected masterpieces" but couldn't think of where else it might fit...*
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Thanks Simon. I've, in essence, listened to nothing but Sun Kil Moon for months now, the greatest songwriter working at the moment.
Here's Birds of Flims from the new album;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7h3bd2YSWs
Saw him at the Royal Northern College of Music of Music in Manchester in July; spellbinding. And I have tickets for Philadelphia in October; I can't wait, every show is different, a complete revelation,
Here is Duk Koo Kim, a masterpiece from 2003:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiNzirkNHFk
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Nice one Andy!
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I have soft spot with for Sun Kil Moon too. He reminds me of Springsteen a bit! Now bear with me. Not his stadium rock "Born in the U.S.A" type stuff but his stripped back albums like 'ghost of tom joad' and in particular 'nebraska'. That kind of lo-fi narration style to his singing and songwriting. With lots of straight up narrative rather than difficult to interpret lyrics. I think this keeps the songs much more honest and truthful but also must be much harder to write well. I'll check out the new album.
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Not as interesting as the last couple of SunKilMoon albums but he started off in Red House Painters. Fans of thoroughly miserable barbed indie music (such as me) may like them, I would start with 'Katy Song' and the piano version of 'Mistress'. He was already fairly bitter twenty years ago . . .
Just seeing Shack mentioned a few posts back, the Michael Head & the Strands album from the mid nineties and a collection of bsides have just been (re)released and are both excellent - definitely neglected masterpieces.
I also enjoy music not from the mid 1990s . . .
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I saw Red House Painters at the (mostly crap) Slint curated ATP and they were one of the highlights of the weekend.
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I haven't been around for a while, so hello again :)
This is perhaps a tiny bit out of date but, having been to Brixton Academy back in May (amazing how time is passing by) for what was the celebration of re-release of 'Mwng', and incidentally the best and most joyous gig I've ever attended in my entire life, I'm proposing that album as a totally neglected masterpiece. Given the words to the English translation of 'Cryndod Yn Dy Lais' I had it as the 'reflective' bit in the middle of my mum's funeral in June. I think I would have done in spite of the gig in May.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7b6AWzC7gY
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Anyone here listen to much shoegaze or noise pop/rock? I've been very much enjoying a Place to Bury Strangers, a great modern noise rock band, and also excellent for training.
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Fully expected that I'd posted this in the Best of 2015 thread but it appears I did not, hence it's going in here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWJ7NhRxqxw
I keep coming back to it. A really brilliant album and 12 months down the line from first hearing it, I can't get enough...
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Great isn't it?
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Bit of a bump here but I had a rather random reminder from my brother about the might of Gregory Alan Isakov the other day and thought I'd share...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-GsZij7aGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSUDogiEb_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xPOEWvE-5o&t=2073s
Enjoy!
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Still haven't had the time to listen to the above, will do soon.
I don't know how I've managed to miss this, probably not really neglected, but can't get it out of my head since I heard it on 6Music. Must've played it 50 times this week, haven't done that for a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71s-T8oUTQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71s-T8oUTQs)
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...I had the Fast Records Sampler on last night featuring that Mekons track. Just great. Same LP, Being Boiled and Circus of Death, Human League back at the start of their life.
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just been reminded by @northlees of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NFRKOh_cKo
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this may well have been linked earlier (I have never posted on this thread before), but regardless, this is deserving of any number of posts. It's the Monks; it's 1965; and they still sound fantastic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iI0__9S1c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iI0__9S1c)
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That's boss!!
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Did we already acknowledge Wendy Carlos' "Switched-On Bach"?
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Strangely not come across this thread before. Very pleasing. Here's my opening salvo:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gyYQYmgTrrI (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gyYQYmgTrrI)
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Did we already acknowledge Wendy Carlos' "Switched-On Bach"?
thinking about S-O B led me to Wendy's website
http://www.wendycarlos.com/
started in 1996
8)
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Unknown Pleasures at 40
On BBC Sounds.
Hardly neglected of course, but this seemed the most appropriate place to post for anyone who missed it earlier today.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0005vss
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0005vss