I've just gt a casio Exilim something or other, very small, ideal for putting in your pocket. No idea on picture quality yet as I only got it yesterday but I got it for free (10 year service award from work)
You seem to want to spend a lot of money on a camera just for taking on holiday.
My father in law has the lumix TZ3 which is really good and takes excellent pictures.
I've just gt a casio Exilim something or other, very small, ideal for putting in your pocket. No idea on picture quality yet as I only got it yesterday but I got it for free (10 year service award from work)
I don't think a fixed lens compact worth buying has been made yet.
So was it a [holiday] fling, or something more serious? I’m still ask myself that every time I look at the prints. At the end of the day, I think my affair with the G9 will remain just that. It’s not quite a keeper just yet. But it’s oh, so very close. With tweaking in the right places, the next generation of high-end digicams might just become the perfect travel cameras.
And what of my relationship with the M8? Let’s just say I haven’t served divorce papers quite yet, but I’m thinking about it. While the physical aesthetic of our tools is essential to a good creative relationship, my time with the G9 showed me that, for me, the cutting edge of technology is capable of more ultimate artistic satisfaction than the M8 can deliver.
no idea what the image quality is like, i've heard reports its good but not amazing. at the end of the day its still got the same tiny sensor that most compacts have.I had high hopes, I really liked my G6. Dave S has one and he says due to them squeezing 12megapixels on that tiny chip, anything other than 100asa its goes noisy as hell. Shame Canon still feel the need to play the higher pixel count = better game.
my Ixus 50 died due to sand inhalation, in spite of my repeated requests to keep it in the fucking case and don't just drop it on the fucking beach!Sounds like you need one of these bad boys...
View finder on it is useless as it is partially blocked by the lens. might as well of been a full chimping cameraIt would only be useless if it was completely blocked...viewfinders on all compacts are pretty lame if you actually want to frame an image (a la SLR).
How many times have you looked at a picture of family or friends and thought “It’s a pity they’re not smiling?”
DX aside, they havent made ANY primes you're ever likely to buy in the last 15 years anyway DX, FX or otherwise (i.e. I'm excluding exotic stuff like uberwide 14mms, fast telephotos, macros, PC etc):
the only nikon lenses that i really use are a 35mm pc for the studio and a 17-55 for fun.
i've just bought an olympus 300mm for kicks. i intend to use it for stalking celebrities. watch out fearne cotton and lauren laverne...
90mm wise theres the AI 85mm f/2 and the AF 85mm f/1.8, both highly rated, are these a bit too big/heavy?
Quote90mm wise theres the AI 85mm f/2 and the AF 85mm f/1.8, both highly rated, are these a bit too big/heavy?
I want a prime lens of equivalent focal length, designed for the DX sensor, ie smaller image circle aming it lighter and smaller. Ideally a stop or more faster to make up for DOF increase. A 65/1.4 would do it, though to really complete with the Zuiko it'd need macro capability WITHOUT internal focus, be sharper than Leica's offering and have bokeh smoother than a baby's arse.
distortion won't be visible in many if any climbing photos, and only in photos in general if you've got dead flat straight things like buildings or a horizon at sea for reference. so its probably less of a problem than you think. if its low-order distortion it should be pretty easy to correct in any normal software. most zoom lenses have distortion to some degree.
what i'd quite like now is something small that i could use with 2 or 3 pocket wizards and small flash heads to do some camelback-portable biking pictures. my current and fairly impractical setup consists of the d200 and a very heavy norman 200b system, which really necessitates the employment of a chinook and crew to deliver it into position.
The Leica D Lux 4 is essentially the same camera as the Panasonic but £150 more expensive. But that case is nice. And I further note from that photo Dave posted it that would look good sitting on the seat of the Ferrari Daytona. Plus you get the case free with the Leica up to the end of January, so essentially you are paying less than £100 for the red dot. Hmm...
i'm not convinced by leica benefits, most of their market will merrily pay anything as long as there's a red dot... the additional cost pushes it beyond what i would ever be prepared to pay for a compact
However good they are, they both look like the kind of compact camera that would be purchased by a man with a very small penis.
Anyone got their hands on a Ricoh CX 1 yet? http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/cx/cx1/ (http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/cx/cx1/)Nope but just read it does HDR in camera (http://i.gizmodo.com/5156462/ricoh-cx1-point-and-shoot-does-in+camera-high-dynamic-range-120fps-slow+mo), which is either an incredibly good or bad thing, depending on your point of view.
Your eye, because it's awesome, can sort all this out on its own, but a digital camera's sensor can't.
Born out of the need for stability, the Tactical Assault Long Range Camera Stock, or TALCs, is the latest in modular camera accessories from Miso Beno Heavy Industries (MBHI). The TALCS platform grants operators the modularity of modern shoulder fired weapons with the grace and stability of old world platforms all in a compact, easy to use package. Taking from the greatest in weapons design principles, the TALCS provides the ultimate in modular field accessories without sacrificing traditional European wood on steel styling.
you need to starp representing that vibe at the crag again.
There was a guy on the OM forum I used to use
A camera maker that simply copies others' idea has no right to call itself an original maker in the first place." -Mr. Maitani, creator of the Olympus OM ("O" for Olympus, "M" for Maitani)
Spend a penny (or 74900) on a E-P1
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1032274 (http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1032274)
Are you going undercover?
got a little casio thing, really good size wise but images are a bit pony, wouldn't recomend them
Anyone used one of these RICOH R10?
QuoteAnyone used one of these RICOH R10?
I've got a Ricoh GX100 and think its great. If the R10 is anything similar it should be decent. I thik you're on a hiding to nothing looking for high iso peformance. Just get one with a fast lens and image stabilisation, stick to 200 or below. With the short focal lengths and IS I can hand-hold mine down to 1/2 sec.
you can put of one o' them babby lenses on it though.
(http://www.hasselbladusa.com/media/1205390/htsproduct480.jpg)
they put a 3x2 sensor in the leica right? nigga please.
(http://www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/25/leica-s2.jpg)
We are playing camera poker?
Ricoh GXR: (http://photorumors.com/2009/11/09/ricoh-gxr/)I like the fact you can change the sensor as well as the lens, cool stuff :great:
The digital range at the moment is either light DX bodies where you're basically stuck with huge zooms, or huge FX bodies that you can put light primes on. We need a small light body for small light primes.:agree:
my pop-in-law has got a G9/10 (i forget which). The manual interface seems good but its pretty big, dense, built like a brick shithouse and not pocketable in the slightest.
Decide whether you want a compact or a camera firstDefinately a compact, if was after a camera, for the money, I would get an SLR. I would get a GR2 or 3 but was distracted by the bonus of having a zoom on the GX models. If the quality is as you say Johnny then I think I'll go for the GX100 or 200 depending how much I can get the latter for. Having said that I've just looked at the LX3 and just can't fookin make me mind up....I suppose the extra zoom is the deciding factor for me, if you're going to have zoom I suppose it may as well be greater than 50mm.
I must admit this has flown under my radar till now, but looks like pentax are finally coming good with a 645D.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EO9piAKCkcU/SdRSqx78NQI/AAAAAAAAETU/FxgO7rQztOA/s400/Pentax-645D-2009-Back.jpg)
The new Step Zoom option, zoom range can be set to 24mm, 28mm, 35mm, 70mm or 90mm
Panasonic itself claims that the new sensor is noiseless at ISO 800 which (if true) is a very good news considering that the sensor has a much higher pixel density than current MicroFourThirds sensor. Panasonic also said that the LX5 sensor has a better sensivity (by 31%) and saturation (38%) and greater dynamic range compared to the older Panasonic LX3
S95 replaces S90. (http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10081918canonpowershots95.asp) Looks like rear dial has been stiffened up = good thing.
Looks like the Leica S2 is finally hitting the streets. Yours for a meagre 16 thousand bananas. (http://www.cliftoncameras.co.uk/Leica_S2_Digital_SLR_) But don't forget you'll probably want a lens for it too.
Looks like the Leica S2 is finally hitting the streets. Yours for a meagre 16 thousand bananas. (http://www.cliftoncameras.co.uk/Leica_S2_Digital_SLR_) But don't forget you'll probably want a lens for it too.
There are no accessories
Red camo lens cap?
Ordered one of these LX5 things. I will report back...
I keep telling her she needs to wait for the D800/D4 instead but she's having none of it.I've been waiting for the D800 to be released for what feels like ages now. Looks like it will be around spring 2011 going on what Nikonrumours have been saying :(
they're stating
The D700 probably did cannibalize some of the D3 sales which (I guess) triggered
(why wouldn't you hold your breath, NR were spot on Re: D7000 and SB700?)
I wouldn't hold your breath. What isn't good enough about the D700?No full HD video... in fact no video at all.. unless you do this (yes Nikon and Canon can work in harmony):
(Don't know how to make photo smaller...)
So you D3x and 1dsMkIII owners think you've got a bigcameranose right? Think again.
:jaw:
F32 at 20 x 24 with Jennifer Trausch (http://vimeo.com/15662887)
I don't think it does raw though.
Fuji dropping what could be a true banger:
http://dpreview.com/news/1009/10091910fujifilmx100.asp (http://dpreview.com/news/1009/10091910fujifilmx100.asp)
Quick rundown:
12mp - check
DX sensor - check
Fast fixed prime (23mm f/2) - check
manual shutter speed dial - check
manual aperture dial - check
Optical viewfinder combined with electronic finder - check (i.e. liveview, or shooting data overlaid on optical - crazy)
Hotshoe - check
compact - check
Can't tell if its actually rangerfinder, probably not since there's and AF button. A lot to like in that package though. I bet I won't like the pricetag though.....
(http://www.fujifilm.com/photokina2010/images/finepix_x100.jpg)
I feel like I'm talking to myself a bit here but at least this time there's a question:
You've got the best compact on the market, I wouldn't start buying another. Are there no bolt-on converters available?
Second thoughts, sell me the LX5 and buy that one on the link. It'll be everything you ever dreamed of in a multi-pitch camera. £200?
I'll swap you it for my next gas bill.
Does anyone have any recommendations for decent compacts (preferably manual control, RAW etc.) that are good for shooting long? I was finding the ~90mm ish end of the LX5 frustratingly short over the weekend and its intended for pretty much the same use in a months time (long multi pitch).
What's the zx1 thing go to?112. and I'm really pleased with mine, but there's way too much overlap with the lx5 for paul i'd say. and no dedicated iso control is annoying.
it comes down to a 24-90mm f/2-3.3 equiv lens (LX5) vs a 28-112mm f/1.8-2.5 (ZX1). For me the wide end would be more use than the long, the speed difference I don't think is big enough to count. I like the format options with the LX-5, but the Oly will likely handle better, output better jpegs, and is reportedly sharper. Probably best to get down to a shop and see which you prefer in the hand.
Bearing in mind Galen used to do all kinds of multipitch shit with a small SLR back in the day, depends how much you want the shot.
A tempting Sony option: Proper wideangle (24mm equiv) + BIG sensor + decent price (http://www.harrisoncameras.net/productdetail.kmod?productid=11909)
For a kickoff, can we stop calling it "four thirds", its MICRO four thirds.
And no flash shoe either. I can hear Bennett turning in his grave as we speak.
There's a review of the Olympus Pen E-P2 here (http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2011/07/chase-jarvis-tech-scotts-olympus-pen-e-p2/) with some pretty good resultsCheers. Written from something close to the climbers' POV ie strong preference for light + compact.
The Sony bodies look really small - some of the lens options are too. Same big sensor size as the Fuji (APS-C).
Nikon have jumped on the mirrorless/ interchangable lens bandwagon (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20108944-1/nikon-reveals-svelte-mirrorless-ilcs/)
Oddly they have opted for a smaller sensor size than m4/3rds.
a Motion Snapshot mode, which records a still image and about a 1-second clip, then plays it back at about 0.4x speed (slow motion) with music.
There's also Smart Photo Selector, a 20-shot burst mode which saves the camera-determined best 5.
no hotshoe
no fast normal prime
Think GX100 IQ is much better than GX200
fiddly zoom when in gloves and to try something different.
fiddly zoom when in gloves and to try something different.
I wouldn't want to have to use the LX3 joystick with gloves on. Although the S90/95/100 are smaller the control wheel around the lens is a really neat feature and must be a lot easier to manipulate with gloves on than the stick or wheel of an LX3/5?
Interesting, my GX100 is unusable due to crap on the sensor. Not unusual apparently. Will take it to Lehman's and see what they say.QuoteThink GX100 IQ is much better than GX200
Really? I thought it was just that the GX200 is no better.
Nikon have jumped on the mirrorless/ interchangable lens bandwagon (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20108944-1/nikon-reveals-svelte-mirrorless-ilcs/)
Oddly they have opted for a smaller sensor size than m4/3rds.
The Sony bodies look really small - some of the lens options are too. Same big sensor size as the Fuji (APS-C).
But the lenses are meant to be poor even the primes.
Only seems to have current models on.
I don't consider myself worthy to comment on the image quality but I haven't been disappointed yet.
A bit of a franken-camera: Pen Mini + Lumix 20mm + VF3 viewfinder + Flipbac grippy thing. It's definitely compact, about a quarter of the bulk of my 40D despite the only slightly smaller sensor. Viewfinder is nice to use, especially for video, but feels a bit fragile. Menus take a while to comprehend. I don't consider myself worthy to comment on the image quality but I haven't been disappointed yet.
Anyone use a GF2?
Does anyone know if the JPG styles are embedded in the Panasonic RAW format
Confirmed, D4 only has two shutter buttons. (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7799914638/nikon-d4-overview/)
Just got one - I like it so far.S95 Replaced with S100 (http://www.adorama.com/alc/news/Canon-announces-posh-PowerShot-S100-SX40-compact-cameras) amongst other things.Just noticed dpreview slipped out a S100 review (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canons100/) a couple of days before Christmas.
Now 24-120mm
Not sure this deserves the hallowed OM moniker but will be worth a look:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7004/6800658863_6cac7c5d93_o.jpg)
About 200 bananas second hand. (http://www.ffordes.com/product/12011017175481) You buying or selling? Try a Completed Listings search on Ebay.
Second hand dSLR sounds like your best bet, perhaps something like the D5100 which has video capture.
Downside will be the lenses which can be big & heavy.
Thanks for the input, I like the looks of it. I would rather have a camera that does what I want and is a little heavier than one that is light and less useful. Any suggestions for good places to get used/refurb cameras? Amazon and ebay only go so far.
what are you getting that you don't get in a much smaller body elsewhere (obvious answer is a mirror, drumroll please)?
A minor issue with the Pen that I partly figured out myself but then saw confirmed on m4/3rd forums is that the in-camera stabilisation doesn't work. I keep it switched off.
How about a modified mamiya 6 or 7 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Modified-Mamiya-6-camera-Hasselblad-V-mount-digital-back-50mm-75mm-lens-/260950786572?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item3cc1e1020c) (ignoring the fact its a tethered back of course).
Weird/clever shit. You have to wonder if it'll ever catch-on in real cameras though. Like does it have some other massive disadvantages or anything like that that the advertising blurb doesn't tell you?
Like the look of the S95/S100. Think the X10 may be a bit big. Any other newcomers to consider? Any views on S95vS100? are the new features worth the extra cash?
Also, the lens cap on the LX5 is annoying...
I'd have a look at a few before buying. You're welcome to check the LX5 out this week.
(https://www.lytro.com/images/corp/ProductPage_Hero_Red.jpg)
Trying to understand this is making my brain hurt, but it does appear to allow you to refocus the images after being captured.
https://www.lytro.com/living-pictures/1698 (https://www.lytro.com/living-pictures/1698)
www.lytro.com (http://www.lytro.com)
Not sure if this belongs here exactly but .... I notice dpreview are excited by the Oly OM-D M5: "arguably the most likeable mirrorless model yet".
Like the look of the S95/S100. Think the X10 may be a bit big. Any other newcomers to consider? Any views on S95vS100? are the new features worth the extra cash?
Incidentally, was playing with a friend's GF1 + 20mm at the weekend, and reminded again what a great camera combo that is for general stuff. If I had more disposable income I'd get one to sit between compact and SLR.
Also, S95 currently £199.95 on Amazon. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00400OK52)
LX7 announced. (http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-lx7) Looks good, and has a crazy fast lens, though it's still one of the bigger compacts.
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Crazy fast lens but a sensor with 20% less area?
Wasn't sure which thread under 'Photography' to post this in but very excited by the prospect of the Canon mirrorless myth-coming-good (http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/20/canon-eos-m-possible-leak/)!!
I could get you prices off talkphotography but that'd be even worse for you (with the 5 and the 7).
The last one on TP sold for £130 in absolutely mint condition, it looked brand new and it goes without saying that it had everything with it.
Yeah, you need a hand to stop the lens cap flapping in front!
That's easy, LX7. I lost my LX5 a couple of years back and the 7 was a worthwhile upgrade from that. I don't notice it on my harness, leading up to E5 on sea cliffs and mountain routes.Has this been replaced by the TZ70 (https://www.johnlewis.com/panasonic-lumix-dmc-tz70-digital-camera-hd-1080p-12-1mp-30x-optical-zoom-nfc-wi-fi-manual-control-ring-evf-3-lcd-screen/p1901695?sku=234285856&s_kwcid=2dx92700016574799552&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=CNvT1v_Av9MCFRYo0wodXx4J1A&gclsrc=aw.ds)?
That's easy, LX7
That's easy, LX7
Is that the Lumix? Don't seem to be many around online, what's the list price?
That's easy, LX7. I lost my LX5 a couple of years back and the 7 was a worthwhile upgrade from that. I don't notice it on my harness, leading up to E5 on sea cliffs and mountain routes.Has this been replaced by the TZ70 (https://www.johnlewis.com/panasonic-lumix-dmc-tz70-digital-camera-hd-1080p-12-1mp-30x-optical-zoom-nfc-wi-fi-manual-control-ring-evf-3-lcd-screen/p1901695?sku=234285856&s_kwcid=2dx92700016574799552&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=CNvT1v_Av9MCFRYo0wodXx4J1A&gclsrc=aw.ds)?
the LX10 doesn't offer a viewfinder of any kind.
Using OM lenses on M4/3 is doable but ultimately, for me, not worth the hassle, as there are lighter sharper native lenses available for not much dollar, and they all come with AF. Although there is focus peaking of magnified views available on most mirrorless systems, some better than others, but none are as nice and quick and easy as using the MF lenses on their native SLR body.
Last time I looked wide options were limited.
None of you like the Fujifilm? They seem to have decent reviews.
recently they added a 15mm 1.7.
Last time I looked wide options were limited.
Same response as usual to this...
Ok, so which did you go for? What would you recommend for Ben, given his budget?
And if I was going to drop a monkey on a 12mm I'd get a pro zoom.
Fuck knows why no one got the memo that m4/3's USP is size.
If you’re after something cheaper you can’t go wrong with the canon S-(bigger number = more £) range, full manual and decent video in a very small camera. Buy a bunch of batteries off eBay.