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chuffing / Re: closed project etiquette
« Last post by Ross Barker on Today at 10:06:40 am »
I'm quite a fan of North Wales Bouldering bantz where the intro to bouldering behaviour says "No Patioing" and the very first problem in the book has a very obvious patio in the topo picture  :2thumbsup:

I always assumed that was there to stop the average layman from trying to build patios under every boulder they arrive at, particularly to stop them from tearing down an ancient drystone wall for it!

An experienced developer should hopefully understand when it is or isn't appropriate to be modifying a landing, and how it should be done.
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chuffing / Re: closed project etiquette
« Last post by spidermonkey09 on Today at 09:59:24 am »
No, being polite and asking do you mind was all it needed. I chose to bolt it and clean it and was a touch to hard for me at the time, at least respect my efforts and have some manners.
There is an old thread on here where people have enquired about a presumed closed project, been told by the developer that yes it was a very much closed >5year old project and people have then stridently denounced would-be-stealers. Do you think all of that is how things ought to be?

Stone, you appear to be stirring somewhat. That was an acknowledged edge case where it's widely accepted that it dragged on too long. It wasn't on to allow it to drag on that long. It also isn't on to just roll in and climb projects without asking permission. This isn't complicated and doesn't need "rules" or "kudos". It just needs people to have some manners and ask, to communicate like normal humans instead of incels and more often than not people will be fine with it.

Nez and Lincoln asked Innes Deans for permission to do his old project down at Yew Cogar a few years back. He'd been trying it for a while, can't remember details but certainly a few years. He declined, because he said he was training and intended to get back on it. That didn't transpire and the next year they asked again. This time he agreed and even told them what size the studs were so they didn't waste a trip down that hill taking the wrong size hangers. They despatched it and gave it the name Innes chose. No reason it couldn't all be more like that.
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abroad / font - showers
« Last post by haydn jones on Today at 09:49:22 am »
any knowledge where is good to shower? theres the swimming pool, but that is €7 a pop. fontainblhostel is €4.50 but the showers are almost always cold. was wondering if anyone had good info.
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chuffing / Re: closed project etiquette
« Last post by Fiend on Today at 09:46:49 am »
I had my wrists gently slapped for making mention of some tasteful landscaping* I did under a boulder on social media - which was fair enough, it's in a National Park, and there's nothing to be gained from drawing attention to that kind of thing.

I've been quite impressed at what my wrist-slapper can accomplish in short time with a 16lb hammer though  :ninja:

* <200kg
I'm quite a fan of North Wales Bouldering bantz where the intro to bouldering behaviour says "No Patioing" and the very first problem in the book has a very obvious patio in the topo picture  :2thumbsup:

Still, if you're not moving hundreds of tonnes, are you even developing??  :-\
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chuffing / Re: closed project etiquette
« Last post by stone on Today at 09:43:51 am »
No, being polite and asking do you mind was all it needed. I chose to bolt it and clean it and was a touch to hard for me at the time, at least respect my efforts and have some manners.
There is an old thread on here where people have enquired about a presumed closed project, been told by the developer that yes it was a very much closed >5year old project and people have then stridently denounced would-be-stealers. Do you think all of that is how things ought to be?
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chuffing / Re: closed project etiquette
« Last post by andy moles on Today at 09:41:48 am »
Perhaps this needs a dedicated thread. Incredible feats of landscaping. Or perhaps we don't want to lift the lid on the dirty dark arts of development...

I had my wrists gently slapped for making mention of some tasteful landscaping* I did under a boulder on social media - which was fair enough, it's in a National Park, and there's nothing to be gained from drawing attention to that kind of thing.

I've been quite impressed at what my wrist-slapper can accomplish in short time with a 16lb hammer though  :ninja:

* <200kg
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chuffing / Re: closed project etiquette
« Last post by Fatboyslimfast2 on Today at 09:35:47 am »
No, being polite and asking do you mind was all it needed. I chose to bolt it and clean it and was a touch to hard for me at the time, at least respect my efforts and have some manners.
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chuffing / Re: closed project etiquette
« Last post by stone on Today at 09:31:08 am »
I had a route stolen(yes Im using that term) couple of years ago, not that hard but when trying to rp it I destroyed my hamstring and didnt go back that year, the next year people had moved on and different cliffs so struggled to get back. The first 2 bolts had the hangers off so they used 2 nuts to loop them and then claimed it, didnt put the hangers back on the bolts and left it. The quarry had taken 2 visits during the winter to cut our way into, then the spring clearing the bottom, the route in question took 3 very sketchy abseils to get into, 3 days of scrubbing (above an old railway tunnel so lots of soot), 2 days of bolting then 2 or 3 days of  attempts. Theres a reason why a lot of these things are not developed because its bloody difficult, expensive and time consuming.
I was royally pissed off when I heard, to be honest if he had asked I might of given it to him if he had paid me for the bolts, as it was it filtered back to him that i was fucked off and got a soft soaped hippy email reply justifying it.
If you had got to name the route, been paid for the bolts and people gave you as a developer a lot more kudos than currently would that have changed things much? (I think developers should get much more kudos regardless).
My impression from what you're saying is that it was a closed project for more than two but less than 5years? If it had been over five years, would that have changed this? Ten years?
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chuffing / Re: closed project etiquette
« Last post by stone on Today at 09:24:03 am »
Not sure how shifting masses of rock and changing would tie in with the open access situation in Scotland? I assume that people making mountain bike trails for example do so with landowner permission, but I have no idea.
I think there’s a big difference in between trundling a block or two or a bit of light patioing and major earthworks!
I guess there is a huge dependence on what sort of place it is. A rhododendron or bramble patch or litter strewn semi-urban quarry probably would be fair game in anyone's eyes. An ancient woodland or popular moorland beauty spot could be very delicate.
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chuffing / Re: closed project etiquette
« Last post by Fatboyslimfast2 on Today at 09:23:19 am »
I had a route stolen(yes Im using that term) couple of years ago, not that hard but when trying to rp it I destroyed my hamstring and didnt go back that year, the next year people had moved on and different cliffs so struggled to get back. The first 2 bolts had the hangers off so they used 2 nuts to loop them and then claimed it, didnt put the hangers back on the bolts and left it. The quarry had taken 2 visits during the winter to cut our way into, then the spring clearing the bottom, the route in question took 3 very sketchy abseils to get into, 3 days of scrubbing (above an old railway tunnel so lots of soot), 2 days of bolting then 2 or 3 days of  attempts. Theres a reason why a lot of these things are not developed because its bloody difficult, expensive and time consuming.
I was royally pissed off when I heard, to be honest if he had asked I might of given it to him if he had paid me for the bolts, as it was it filtered back to him that i was fucked off and got a soft soaped hippy email reply justifying it. 
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