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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: BMC Resolutions shout out 📣
« Last post by Oldmanmatt on May 09, 2024, 02:59:23 pm »
Ok.

Fuck it.

I’ve said similar to Pete, privately.

I’ve sniped, but I can make no direct accusation. There is simply no evidence and I have no knowledge of systems in place.
I don’t want to appear arrogant (or “financially incompetent”) either, but, as I said, Fuck it.

I simply do not understand how this situation arose.

I don’t understand, because I am a director of a large company.
I control a budget just under €100M. For context, I have spent €2.5M on paint alone over the last 12 months.
I don’t, of course, control this budget alone. There is a single accountant, under the group CFO. There is no fancy accounting package, they use Exel.
For any purchase under €10k, my signature, our Commercial Director’s signature and the CFO’s signature, are required on the offer/quote, LPO/PO, and all the invoices. We each keep a copy for our own files.
Above €10k, then the CEO replaces the CFO. That means, the CD and I physically take the documents to the CEO and justify the purchase, discuss alternative offers etc etc. This begins at the offer stage, long before any purchase order is generated.
Approximately every six months, the directors have to justify every employee’s position, to the CEO. We track hours and work orders, so it takes about an hour to put together the report. Nobody except the CEO has a secretary or assistant.
The group is internally audited twice per year.
We let the previous accountant go, for releasing a payment to a subcontractor that wasn’t due and without signatures. We discovered the missing money within seven days of the mistake, because we spend about an hour reviewing the previous week, on a Monday morning.
None of this aspect of my role is in the least bit arduous, tedious perhaps, but not actually hard. It is not at all within my educational background, I am an Engineer.
I can, however, “bring receipts” for everything we have done across all the various disciplines and departments I control with the CD at any time.

I am certain others posting here and on the other channel, also control substantial budgets and complicated work environments, alone or in part.
I want to point out as well, that we are a new company within the group, set up less than three years ago. We build large yachts (over 500 GRT) completely (steel/aluminium fabrication, design, fitting out, interior design etc etc), we are building a massive new shipyard (first shed will come on line within 3 months) and we are handling all aspects of the construction there too, no subcontractors. We have just completed the modules and fit out of a 900 room modular hotel for the Neom project (for four months I had 200 staff working in Saudi). There are just over 800 employees right now.

So, I just don’t understand how it can be hard to have kept track of the budget or how it is possible that that information is not retrievable. Or how the released info can be so woefully inadequate.

I of course bow to Tony’s superior financial nouse and freely admit my own incompetence.
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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: 180k cragx Mill Bridge
« Last post by Dingdong on May 09, 2024, 02:45:12 pm »
When the gas network in Stannington flooded destroying a number of my neighbours homes thanks to yorkshire waters incompetence, you can bet your ass I complained about them to Olivia Blake who was nothing but excellent. Sadly they have free reign to do what they want as long they pay measly fines.

Until the water companies are back under public ownership they'll continue to funnel money to their shareholders pockets instead of using that money to upgrade vital infrastructure.

The gas network was flooded because yorkshire water decided not to invest in pipes in the area despite numerous warnings and previous instances of pipes cracking and flooding areas of stannington.

This is not dissimilar to what's happening with the raw sewage discharges, these same bastards are keeping all of our money and using it to get richer whilst our waterways are filled with shite.
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music, art and culture / Re: RIP
« Last post by teestub on May 09, 2024, 02:39:58 pm »
Legend. I didn’t realise how many metal albums he’d produced before browsing his discogs https://www.discogs.com/artist/59373-Steve-Albini?superFilter=Production&creditFilter=Producer
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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: 180k cragx Mill Bridge
« Last post by teestub on May 09, 2024, 02:33:21 pm »
Don't mind me, just gonna periodically drop in here and leave articles proving that water companies such as Yorkshire Water are polluting our waterways and getting away with paying insignificant fines whilst paying their shareholders dividends.


Hopefully you’re writing to your MP with your concerns, as well as posting here
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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: BMC Resolutions shout out 📣
« Last post by Oldmanmatt on May 09, 2024, 02:08:40 pm »
BMC accounting 2022:
1: Lift corner of rug.
2: Sweep it all under.
3: Deny massive lump under rug exists.
4: Claim rug is now too heavy to lift and “anyway, we put a new sofa on it now”.
5: Attempt Jedi mind trick “This is not the lump you are looking for”…
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for sale / wanted / Re: FS: Original 5.10 Dragons and Moccasyms size 7
« Last post by WillRobertson on May 09, 2024, 01:39:44 pm »
They are, I'll send you a message.
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news / Re: The inevitable E grade thread
« Last post by jwi on May 09, 2024, 01:22:43 pm »
I quite like the french use of obligatory ( 7b(6c+ obl) for that. Letting you know you can frig it 😁

The obligatory grade is amazingly useful to figure out how hard it is to get up a route. It is also pretty "compressed" in the higher grades. It is really really rare to find a route where it is harder than fr 7b between the bolts.
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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: BMC Resolutions shout out 📣
« Last post by Nails on May 09, 2024, 12:53:39 pm »
I appreciate that, but even the simple breakdown that HMRC require (Wages, Buildings, Travel, Admin etc) would be considerably better than what has been provided in the Finance Report. The whole idea that the costs are unknown and too difficult to find out is simply not credible.
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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: BMC Resolutions shout out 📣
« Last post by remus on May 09, 2024, 12:09:06 pm »
Scenario 2. The 2022 finances are actually quite well understood. They had to be in order to file an accurate Corporation Tax return. HMRC aren't big on allowing such things to be wrong based on the argument that, "it's all too much effort". If there's any likelihood that the BMC didn't understand their finances correctly for 2022 and may have filed an incorrect Corporation Tax return then it is probably rather important that this gets investigated urgently just in case they turn out to have a massive tax liability. So assume the 2022 finances are well understood, but they're embarassing and not just to people who have left the organisation. People within the BMC are desparate not to have all this uncovered and are really hoping that it all gets forgotten about.

The things HMRC are interested in for tax returns are not necessarily the same things that are being asked for now. For example, if you have some admin costs HMRC are unlikely to be bothered about how those are split across the different areas within the business, whereas that seems like something people interested in the cost of comp climbing within the BMC would be pretty interested in. I think it is easy to imagine a situation where coming up with the latter figures would require work.
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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: BMC Resolutions shout out 📣
« Last post by Nails on May 09, 2024, 11:33:14 am »
The problem here is when we apply Occam's razor to the curent BMC setup and the lack of transparency around the 2022 finances. Obviously, there are many possible explanantions for what is currently going on. Here are two scenarios to consider:

Scenario 1. The 2022 finances are poorly documented, incredibly complicated and it's just not worth the effort required to uncover them. Let's all move on. Volunteers are working phenomenally hard and constant harking on about historical finances are an insult and distraction to their sterling efforts. People who were involved in any mismanagement or misdirection of funds have now moved on. The current board,management etc have worn their fingers to the bone sorting everything out and getting the good ship BMC back on an even keel. The Council members who sit on the Board and the Finance and Audit Committee are all reliable people and just want to move on.

Scenario 2. The 2022 finances are actually quite well understood. They had to be in order to file an accurate Corporation Tax return. HMRC aren't big on allowing such things to be wrong based on the argument that, "it's all too much effort". If there's any likelihood that the BMC didn't understand their finances correctly for 2022 and may have filed an incorrect Corporation Tax return then it is probably rather important that this gets investigated urgently just in case they turn out to have a massive tax liability. So assume the 2022 finances are well understood, but they're embarassing and not just to people who have left the organisation. People within the BMC are desparate not to have all this uncovered and are really hoping that it all gets forgotten about.

Which of these would Occam choose?
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