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Title: Architecture
Post by: Houdini on January 29, 2008, 11:13:49 am
A thread for those interested in architecture.


I'm fascinated w/ wartime bunkers.  Lucky me, I'm in the right place for it as they're plastered all over my city.  Why there is one not 100m from where I sit now:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/bunkerpics009.jpg)

As you can see clearly, this bunker is in the process of conversion into two flats:  each will have two floors, and they're already on the market @ €190,000+ which is a fine price in the current climate (imagine buying a haus guaranteed not to have any structural problems - at least for many a generation).

And here is the city's big one, the Daddy, the wartime command centre: an amazing brutalist structure.  After WW2, the authorities wanted to raize it to the ground on the grounds it was a strong Nazi symbol - alas - she was built to last and it was calculated the amount of TNT required would send it into orbit, not the ground.  I'm glad they let it stand for many reasons, one of which is that a techno club called Übel und Gefährlich (Ugly & Dangerous) is based here.  As you can imagine, there are zero noise issues w/ local residents.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/bunkerpics003.jpg)

And LR shot showing zee Überbunker and the 200m HH fernsehentürm (tv tower).  A cracking structure it is too (a while back the München-based firm I worked for were due to have the concrete inspection contract for the underside of the large dish of the München TV tower, which would have meant muggins 'ere would have needed to aid from the stem to the lip drilling & bolting my way across the underside.  Guts me they lost the contract, what a wild job that would have been!)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/bunkerpics004.jpg)

And this is the HH Chilehaus - included as it's a stunner - check out that arete!  :o

(http://blog.b92.net/user_stuff/upload/114/chilehaus.114.jpg)

Does anyone have any favourites in their own manor?





Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 29, 2008, 11:46:27 am
Speaking of concrete, Wormesley's big mess in Sheff holds a strange facination for me. I'm looking forward to seeing how the renovation goes. Ugly, but appealing (definition of "cute"?)
(http://www.artandarchitecture.org.uk/assets/aa_image/320/7/1/2/f/712fc4025db2872dbb500d010149a50eec8407df.jpg)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 29, 2008, 12:11:55 pm
Always makes me smile
(http://blogs.indiewire.com/eug/archives/images/hallamunion.JPG)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Houdini on January 29, 2008, 12:17:46 pm
Redolent of a smooth Selfridges in Brum.  I like.



I'm a doity bandwidth buster  :whistle:

Here's the Chilehaus once more *fingers crossed*

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1095/948825272_ea29cebe56_m.jpg)

And @ night

(http://homepage.hamburg.de/ullis-schreibselseite/IMG_1031%20hh%20chilehaus.jpg)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Yossarian on January 29, 2008, 01:08:52 pm
not my manor, but i wish it was...
(http://www.egothemag.com/archives/zaha/manip/manip_vitra.jpg)

Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 29, 2008, 01:24:33 pm
The Sinclair Building on West Street in Wad-Town is rather lovely.
I like the black bricks and curves.
(http://img.findaproperty.com/library/new/dfhsinclair2.jpg) (http://www.architecture.com/Images/RIBATrust/Awards/RIBAAwards/2007/Yorkshire/SheffieldGlossopRd03H(c)GarethGardner_169x129.jpg)

(http://www.kspace-apartments.co.uk/ks5/PicSinc/Sinclair-D.jpg)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: SA Chris on January 29, 2008, 01:39:53 pm
Nothing architecturally interesting or innovative up here, unless you like granite. Nice and sparkly on a sunny day (I remember them), but in bad weather I swear it absorbs light.
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 29, 2008, 01:51:26 pm
This was interesting when it looked like this
(http://www.smokefilledroom.co.uk/Gregsworld/Sheffield/pub_photos/Bed.jpg)

Now its been cleaned up, it looks great, but I can't find a picture  :'(
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Monolith on January 29, 2008, 01:58:51 pm
Where to start...

One a day perhaps. Today, Studio Sanaa: Christian Dior-Tokyo.

Sanaa produce the most incredible weightless-looking structures I can care to name.

(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8017/07011331jt1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Jaspersharpe on January 29, 2008, 02:02:51 pm
My manor for 17 years was Lewes and I grew up just up the road from this.........

(http://i30.tinypic.com/2wrdo9v.jpg)


(http://i27.tinypic.com/2s8gzt5.jpg)


(http://i31.tinypic.com/2uh1hmd.jpg)


Went to Seattle as a kid and was really impressed by this..........

(http://i25.tinypic.com/f57h4g.jpg)


But the ultimate for me is still this.........


(http://i30.tinypic.com/2czjtf.jpg)


.......after seeing so many pictures of it, when I finally stepped out of the tube station and saw it I was properly gobsmacked. I also like the fact that it is still a building site and will remain so for a very long time to come.

In Sheffield (apparently)this has been approved.........

(http://i29.tinypic.com/2ylkcb9.jpg)

.......101m tall. 31 floors. Looks pretty fucking bland to me.

But I do like this bad boy in Manchester.............

(http://i26.tinypic.com/2duksvn.jpg)


.....very Blade Runner.



Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: slackline on January 29, 2008, 02:10:23 pm
Now its been cleaned up, it looks great, but I can't find a picture  :'(

Not one of mine but here it is with the new bling...

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1401/1442885780_06af998b8a_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: rich d on January 29, 2008, 02:14:37 pm
they've turned the Palais into a Sainsubury's?  :shag: me
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 29, 2008, 02:15:31 pm
That's the one, Slackline.
W-w-w-w-wad for that, thanks.
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Jaspersharpe on January 29, 2008, 02:16:18 pm
they've turned the Palais into a Sainsubury's?  :shag: me

Yup. And student accomodation.  :'(
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: rich d on January 29, 2008, 02:18:29 pm
they've turned the Palais into a Sainsubury's?  :shag: me

Yup. And student accomodation.  :'(

what a nighmare. Used to go there in early nineties, easy d, asterix and space etc, then onto CJ's.
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: cowboyhat on January 29, 2008, 02:35:43 pm
That Christian Dior Tokyo reminded me of...

(http://architectook.net/wp-content/gallery/prada-tokyo/Prada%20Store5.jpg)

Prada Tokyo. Impressive, though quite small. Its only a bag shop...
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Paul B on January 29, 2008, 02:51:23 pm
The Sinclair Building on West Street in Wad-Town is rather lovely.

Disagree with you on that one.

(http://www.shef.ac.uk/content/1/c6/04/38/49/homepage_2007.jpg)
^ better inside than out
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_01/pancrasDM0611_468x330.jpg)

(http://www.hughpearman.com/illustrations/grimwaterloo2.jpg)

I also love that airport (Barcelona?) that won an award a few years ago, colored  columns and very fancy air conditioning system that they designed to look really smart. Can't find it though :(

Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: slackline on January 29, 2008, 03:05:55 pm
they've turned the Palais into a Sainsubury's?  :shag: me

Yep, and with a big fuck-off Waitrose across the road  :shrug:

Although I guess given the motivation many of the students on the blocks behind are likely to lack they'll probably do quite well. :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Fiend on January 29, 2008, 03:09:10 pm
Nice thread. Fuck me it's cultural on here. Black metal and contemporary architecture side by side.

Comments:

And here is the city's big one, the Daddy, the wartime command centre: an amazing brutalist structure. 

Woah yeah. A particularly harshly bland and bulky look. Like it.

...

Sagrada Familia (would you believe I guessed the spelling right first time!!), amazing. My brother who lived there for a year or so carefully guided me down various obscure streets to get the full effect of seeing it at night. Particularly impressed by how monsterous it is....it gives the impression of having very little concern for human niceties and subtleties....a definitely massive and obnoxious celebration of OTT grandeur.

The building in Manchester....impressive when driving in on the A57. The cut-away lower section, distinctive and intriguing.

...

In return may I offer you a solitary (more coming when I twiddle with them) photo of the beautiful star-trek-esque buildings in the central park running through Valencia:

(http://www.fiendy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/spain1/valence5.jpg)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: BenF on January 29, 2008, 03:13:08 pm
In return may I offer you a solitary (more coming when I twiddle with them) photo of the beautiful star-trek-esque buildings in the central park running through Valencia:

Wow, that's beautiful Fiend.  I am bowled over by that photo/building.  Thanks for posting that.
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 29, 2008, 03:20:35 pm
The Sinclair Building on West Street in Wad-Town is rather lovely.

Disagree with you on that one.


Brave words. Does "Paul B" build as boldly as he writes? Does he have a real name... like... er Paul?  ;) :lol:
sorry wrong thread  :lol:
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Paul B on January 29, 2008, 03:26:07 pm
ha! So you want to fight this out the celebrity death match way do you?

I just don't see it looking good in 10 years time, the glass facade doesn't really tie in with the building either, now if they'd continued it all around the bottom to make its support look minimal that would be a different story. But they didn't.
Every project they got me to build anything it looked like errr a big truss  ;) ...
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Monolith on January 29, 2008, 03:31:42 pm
Ah one more for the day, I can't resist. The Kunsthaus in Graz, Austria. Designed by Peter Cook and Colin Fournier. An exhibition/performance/anything almost goes affair.

The facade is known as the BIX (Big Pixel) media facade and is capable of displaying animated imagery as seen here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rlUdmdEU8ak)

The Friendly Alien as its endearingly known by its admirers.

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3241/handspettingthekunsthaugh1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: soapy on January 29, 2008, 03:33:56 pm
(http://www.source.ie/photos/large/largeJ/is15jetmagR1.jpg)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: SA Chris on January 29, 2008, 03:34:40 pm
I will be touching down here on friday

(http://www.denverairporttransportation.com/images/dia.jpg)

Denver International. I quite like the look of it (for an airport) but I think it has too much of a temporary feel to it to be really good architecture.

Also like the Guggenheim in Bilbao (from a distance anyway).

(http://www.mrrena.com/images/1.jpg)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Houdini on January 29, 2008, 03:49:26 pm
Denver International Airport.  Made and slammed-up by an ex-employer of mine.  I've erected many fabric structures like this, perhaps not as grand, mind.

(Aw-wite soaps me man)

Anyone know Portsmouth?  Helped build this too

(http://www.asfu39.dsl.pipex.com/sail/pmouth-2.jpg)

It's fairly hard not to like the Guggenheim, isn't it?



Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: SA Chris on January 29, 2008, 03:59:39 pm
It's fairly hard not to like the Guggenheim, isn't it?

I know. hard to put into words why though. Just the sheer audacity of it?

I lile the look of that Kunsthaus in Graz. Looks like an alien heart. Or something.
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Jaspersharpe on January 29, 2008, 04:16:34 pm

The Friendly Alien as its endearingly known by its admirers.


That's really cool and reminds me of the Allianz Arena........

(http://i30.tinypic.com/x55lvt.jpg)


(http://i31.tinypic.com/2nuh91v.jpg)


Watched a World Cup game there and it was just as impressive on the inside - crap picture taken on my crap phone.......


(http://i28.tinypic.com/2dtcdjb.jpg)


Better picture.....

(http://i30.tinypic.com/uvpg9.jpg)



Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Houdini on January 29, 2008, 04:23:13 pm
Ah I've a soft spot for areni, arenae, arenas?  Stadia!  The Allianz is a stunner.  So is their old stadium, which I like more, really I do.

This is round the corner from me.  I built this too (just the roof) (look @ me) this doesn't show how awsome its curves are.

(http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/12/12514/12514_2.jpg)

9 months on that fuckin' roof . . .

*holds head and weeps*
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: grumpycrumpy on January 29, 2008, 06:27:29 pm
I did a job in that building fiend , launch of some crappy car , and it is totally breathtaking  ...... Same architect transformed a very mundane sports stadium in Athens into summat amazing .....
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on January 30, 2008, 12:03:41 am
I believe Paul and Fiend are talking about the work of Santiago Calatrava, who has been a fave of mine for many years. He's done some pretty special bridges/airports/train stations over the years. If it looks like its heavily influenced by bones and skeletons it's probably his work (or ripped off from his work like many bridges) I also completely agree on the Gugg in Bilbao, I remember walking around there thinking it cost half as much as the Millenium Dome.  :'(
SC did the footbridge near the Gugg in Bibao, but not the ones in Manchester and Newcastle that are rip offs.

My favorites of SC's:
Bridge in Spain, Seville I think
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Calatrava_Puente_del_Alamillo_Seville.jpg/800px-Calatrava_Puente_del_Alamillo_Seville.jpg)
Footbridge in Bilbao near the Gugg
(http://www.geocities.com/big_bridges1/volantin8.jpg)
lyon Airport Train Station
(http://www.aschwanden.com/pictures/calendar/alt_1996_1.jpg)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Monolith on January 30, 2008, 10:08:12 am
Mies van der Rohe.

The Farnsworth House, Illinois

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2788/farnsworthhousegmad063ym9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

The Barcelona Pavillion (the German contribution)

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4830/rthalfyt1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


Lived to 83 on a diet of cognac and cigars did Mies.

A slightly more esoteric offering by the recently deceased Colombian architect Rogelio Salmona:

Torres del Parque, Bogota

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2462/bogota040a0pnli6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/6333/bogota045s9ouwr1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)



Nicely proportioned geometries in red brick. 


Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Houdini on January 30, 2008, 10:23:10 am
I don't know who designed this, and care less, it's the scene of my last windowcleaning job.  Fucking terrifying when you've been issued w/ a worn STOP (AKA GO) only rated for 100m or is it (150?) drops . . .

It's huge.

Beetham Tower, Brum c.200m

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/graphics/2006/09/14/npgeneration3.jpg)

Ugly as sin, why must it be this way?
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: SA Chris on January 30, 2008, 10:42:43 am
Torre Mayor Mexico City.

Not very exciting, but wins cool points for being earthquake resistant.

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2919/1torremayorfu6.png)

The overlapping diamonds you can just about see are giant dampeners.
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Houdini on January 30, 2008, 05:45:45 pm
I like the organic fairytale mess of the Austrian, Hundertwasser

(http://www.vvs.de/download/freizeitportal/bilder/plochingen_hundertwasser.jpg)

(http://webs.schule.at/website/PictureQuiz_Vienna/images/sight06.jpg)

(http://www.vazyvite.com/photo_div/2004/vienne/wasserhaus.jpg)

And Bahnhof Uelzen, which I use regularly

(http://www.heideregion-uelzen.de/imperia/md/images/uelzen/hauptnavi_links/urlaub_freizeit/hundertwasser/hw_bhf_400.jpg)

The detail is throughout

(http://www.imaginationen.de/bilder_gross/bhfue7cr_600.jpg)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: dontfollowme on January 30, 2008, 06:22:01 pm
I don't know who designed this, and care less, it's the scene of my last windowcleaning job.  Fucking terrifying when you've been issued w/ a worn STOP (AKA GO) only rated for 100m or is it (150?) drops . . .

It's huge.

Beetham Tower, Brum c.200m

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/graphics/2006/09/14/npgeneration3.jpg)

Ugly as sin, why must it be this way?

When they built that, one of the workman dropped one of the huge pieces of glass as they were lifting it into place. The result was the town centre was gridlocked for hours.
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Yossarian on January 30, 2008, 06:29:22 pm
obi - re the bridges...

that's a bit unfair re rip-offs. wilkinson eyre (who did the one in newcastle, not sure about manchester) have been designing bridges for years. their canary wharf one is semi-ancient.

i did an interview with them ages ago, and got presented with a pretty spectacular book of their stuff going back to the 80s.

(my crap article never made it to print unfortunately....)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Houdini on January 30, 2008, 06:31:58 pm
DFM - Yes, I'd heard that fact.

When I was working there, one of the glass-suckers that you use to keep yourself in position broke from a cow's tail and plummeted to the pavement below.  A desperate situation to find oneself in as only a 2m distance from the building into the wide pavement could be cordoned-off.  A pointless token gesture, especially as without two suckers attached to a pane the ropeworker can get blown round the entire building - which has happened on that structure.  The weather below means nothing at 200m.  In access, kit gets dropped, it's an unfortunate fact that comes w/ the territory.

Most terrifying few 100 sheets I've taken.
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 30, 2008, 06:45:06 pm
"Can't you put your karabiners on lanyards?"  :lol:
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Houdini on January 30, 2008, 06:45:56 pm
Anyone else stumped?
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 30, 2008, 07:00:34 pm
Anyone else stumped?

by
"Can't you put your karabiners on lanyards?"  :lol:
?

It's the daft question which has been asked of me by nervous building managers whilst I have outlined method statements/risk assessments (when I did access work); when they refused to accept that stuff can get dropped.
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on January 30, 2008, 08:33:58 pm
that's a bit unfair re rip-offs. wilkinson eyre (who did the one in newcastle, not sure about manchester) have been designing bridges for years. their canary wharf one is semi-ancient.
1997 according to their website, Calatrava designed the 'harp' bridge in 1987. Sorry if I sounded harsh Yoss, I'm not knocking WilkinsonEyre or any decent practices that push out original work rather than the choss we ususally have. I don't doubt they have done some superb work, but Calatrava was doing ground breaking work a full decade before many of his competitors/copiers. Did you ever see his design for the Thames crossing? Can't currently find a pic of it. If only we had the guts to commission work like than instead of spending £800m on a tent.
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Monolith on January 31, 2008, 08:34:13 pm
Modern classic: Zaha Hadid, Phaeno Science Center, Wolfsburg, Germany.

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8198/103nd2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Interior

(http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3466/zaha2ym1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Houdini on January 31, 2008, 08:49:12 pm
I've seen this in the flesh - it's amazing!


(I was there building Wolfsburg FCs stadium - I get around w/ those stadia. . .)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Paul B on January 31, 2008, 08:52:29 pm
Modern classic: Zaha Hadid, Phaeno Science Center, Wolfsburg, Germany.

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8198/103nd2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

I wonder how much embodied energy is in all that concrete!

That lost out to my airport I couldn't find...for that award I couldn't remember
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: lagerstarfish on January 31, 2008, 08:54:35 pm
Modern classic: Zaha Hadid, Phaeno Science Center, Wolfsburg, Germany.

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8198/103nd2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


Wow!

reminds me of 2000ad

(http://files.list.co.uk/images/2007/02/12/comics-nemesis.jpg)


Be pure. Be vigilant. Behave!
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Monolith on January 31, 2008, 08:57:53 pm
Aye Paul, not exactly sustainable, but by the same token it doesn't look like it's destined for anywhere other than the year 50,000!

Wait til you see my windsurfing/landyacht scheme, Zaha can eat shit!
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: andy_e on January 31, 2008, 09:12:54 pm
I had a dream last night that I was assessing the structural geology of the area where Heysham Power Station used to be so they could build the world's biggest nuclear power station in place of it. Ignoring my advice telling them it would fall down, they proceeded to build the world's tallest building, complete with 7 nuclear reactors, one atop of another, with office blocks attached to the structural supports of the reactors. It was a stunning building, with 4 double-helixes supporting it in each corner of a square, and they had to build a crane on top with the longest steel cable in the world on it (this probably isn't true but it seemed it in my dream)

Then I woke up.

I always wondered if the arete of the sea life centre in hull would go. Brutally steep glass DWS anyone?
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Monolith on January 31, 2008, 09:58:13 pm
That lost out to my airport I couldn't find...for that award I couldn't remember

Stirling Prize 06, Barajas airport by Richard Rogers was the one you had in mind I think.

(Nerd Stirling Prize fact-named after James Stirling who studied at Liverpool 1945-50, and let me tell you, the department has named every room, toilet and sink after him.)
Title: Re: A r c h i t e c t u r e
Post by: Houdini on January 31, 2008, 10:01:05 pm
Hope they have A Sterling Effort written in silver on the bog door . . .
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Houdini on February 01, 2008, 12:44:55 am
Why would anyone take the time to remove the spaces between the letters of the thread title?  I mean, don't you have better things to do?  ???  Do they bother you, make you fit??  ???

Relax - amuse yourself w/ Riddim Puss for a while . . . It'll all be OK . . .
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on February 01, 2008, 01:00:50 am

Because it's like posting a topic title all in CAPS. It makes the topic stand out in a list of topics. This is not good because all topics are equal when they are created. But yes, i must be bored :)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Paul B on February 01, 2008, 03:30:01 am
I should have remembered it was a Richard Rogers project  ::):

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/52/128198222_78557d1955.jpg)

(http://www.tensinet.com/database/images/4200/1%20Facturador.jpg)

(http://www.e-architect.co.uk/madrid/jpgs/barajas_airport_rrp06_15.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Eddies on February 01, 2008, 12:10:31 pm
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/eddiesniper/civiljusticecentre.jpg)

Not bad for gunchester
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on February 01, 2008, 01:00:43 pm
Hope they have A Sterling Effort written in silver on the bog door . . .

Sadly not, but someone has written 'Necrophilia: The victimless crime' to which the typical series of follow ups have been posted.

I should have remembered it was a Richard Rogers project  ::):

I'm not sure his colour palette extends beyond yellow, have you seen the house he designed for his parents?

Today: One of my favourite architects. Steven Holl, Turbulence House, New Mexico, US

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9187/05001251awprojecthnj9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

In context

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1635/200589trbhse0229wpfp9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Walk-through

(http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6752/0500131awprojectvertwy7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Sublime.


Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Houdini on February 01, 2008, 01:17:43 pm
Berlin bunker - now converted to an art gallery and luxury appartments

(http://www.metropolismag.com/webimages/3008/2_t346.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on February 01, 2008, 07:31:03 pm
(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9187/05001251awprojecthnj9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
sublime indeed.

Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Houdini on February 01, 2008, 07:38:02 pm
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/eddiesniper/civiljusticecentre.jpg)

Looks perfect for a bunch of paper-shufflers/pen pushers.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: andy_e on February 01, 2008, 07:39:39 pm
multipitch roof climb anyone?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on February 02, 2008, 09:09:44 pm

(http://img.funtasticus.com/2007/jan8/unusual_buildings31012008/01.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on February 03, 2008, 11:57:27 am
Stahl House, LA (1960) Pierre Koenig.

If you're going to have to look at LA, this might as well be your vantage point eh?

(http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5066/800pxcasestudyhouseno21ip6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3082/132287742d0248e08fvz9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 03, 2008, 12:46:29 pm
Made me think of this

(http://www.davidhockney.eu/images/david_hockney_a_bigger_splash.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 04, 2008, 12:51:15 pm
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/eddiesniper/civiljusticecentre.jpg)

Rope Access supervision = my bad self
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on February 08, 2008, 12:29:00 pm
Peter Zumthor's Thermal Baths in Vasl, Switzerland.

Anyone ever visited a thermal bath? A german architect was telling me they're huge on the continent and was lamenting the size of the sauna's we have in Total Fitness, Fitness World etc.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii130/thomascmills/20070415102208Therme_Valsjpg.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii130/thomascmills/1774_l.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii130/thomascmills/105.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on February 08, 2008, 03:28:19 pm
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii130/thomascmills/1774_l.jpg)

Wow! What is it that stone? Looks kinda like marble and glass mixed together.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on February 08, 2008, 03:39:04 pm
Looks like a beautiful stone although I couldn't yet tell you exactly what it is. Really does look like one of the most relaxing environments I think I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on February 08, 2008, 04:01:42 pm

Saw this linked from boingboing - not to my taste but interesting nonetheless.

linky (http://materialicio.us/2008/02/07/cape-schank-house-paul-morgan-architects/)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/modernlover62/ALBUM%202/ALBUM%203/ALBUM%205/ALBUM%206/5-8.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/modernlover62/ALBUM%202/ALBUM%203/ALBUM%205/ALBUM%206/10-2.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/modernlover62/ALBUM%202/ALBUM%203/ALBUM%205/ALBUM%206/6-5.jpg)



Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on February 08, 2008, 04:16:21 pm
Man that's sweet! Party HQ.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on February 08, 2008, 04:24:40 pm
The big central watertank is pretty funky.

Lot's of other interesting stuff on that site (new site to me) if you click the architecture link.

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/modernlover62/ALBUM%202/ALBUM%203/ALBUM%205/1-17.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/modernlover62/ALBUM%202/ALBUM%203/ALBUM%205/ALBUM%206/10.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/modernlover62/ALBUM%202/ALBUM%203/ALBUM%205/ALBUM%206/18.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/modernlover62/ALBUM%202/ALBUM%203/ALBUM%205/2-68.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on February 08, 2008, 04:27:06 pm
Class link cheers Bubbs.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on February 08, 2008, 04:27:59 pm
Man that's sweet! Party HQ.

If you're after somewhere to party (taste notwithstanding) then you'd do well to beat this place. Supposedly Ronaldinho's pad near Barca.

(http://i25.tinypic.com/29ejhn8.jpg)

More pics here.........

http://relaxing.blogsome.com/2005/10/29/ronaldinhos-home/
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on February 08, 2008, 04:33:27 pm
aye, some of it is well tacky, but it must be nice to wake up every day to that view...

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/64/30em.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on February 08, 2008, 04:33:58 pm
What a site and what a size. But tastewise, like you say Jasper, the inside looks like Argos.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on February 08, 2008, 04:37:49 pm
He is a football player though and in comparison to the usual mock tudor affairs etc it's extremely tastefully done.  :lol:

Imagine what it could be like with a few quid spent de-Argosing it.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on February 08, 2008, 04:41:49 pm
It's every WAG's dream isn't it? A whole building full of every item in the Argos catalogue. What more could an insipid and vile aspirant WAG wish for?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on February 08, 2008, 04:47:25 pm
Every wardrobe is filled with Burberry and Von Dutch and the drawers are overflowing with Elizabeth Duke's finest.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on February 08, 2008, 04:47:37 pm
It'd be fantastic post argos :)

More from that site

Steel House
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/modernlover62/ALBUM%202/ALBUM%203/ALBUM%205/bruno_steel_house.jpg)

Hobbit House?
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/modernlover62/ALBUM%202/ALBUM%203/ALBUM%205/turfhouse.jpg)

Lighthouse
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/modernlover62/ALBUM%202/ALBUM%203/ALBUM%205/Knarrarsvitilighthouse.jpg)

Potential giant campus Board House
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i207/modernlover62/ALBUM%202/ALBUM%203/ALBUM%205/1-29.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on February 08, 2008, 04:50:08 pm
My God. 1-5-9-13-17-21-25 anyone?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Houdini on February 11, 2008, 09:08:03 am
If I could choose any appartment over here it would be these by the docks:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/wine031.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/wine038.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/wine034.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/wine032.jpg)

But the cheapest flats go for €1500/month (not inc. bills).  I'll have to wait . . .   :(   This is the view on the other side:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/wine002-2.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/wine009.jpg)

The dockside offices of one of the ferry companies.  My interval training steps run the length of the far right:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/houdini2/wine004-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on February 15, 2008, 02:25:43 pm
Some funky stuff in Beijing...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2013/2183131931_3299a0d851.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tschaut/2183131931/)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2002/2243512957_3485502b34_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88315679@N00/2243512957/)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on February 15, 2008, 02:48:27 pm
Have you seen this monstrosity in the monstrous place that is Dubai?

(http://i25.tinypic.com/2z7ex77.jpg)


It's a fucking ski slope.

(http://i29.tinypic.com/qxnxhf.jpg)


(http://i25.tinypic.com/24vk4zc.jpg)

Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on February 15, 2008, 02:53:25 pm
(http://en.epochtimes.com/news_images/2005-7-28-2005-7-28-chicagospire.jpg)

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8300/aquats6.jpg)

New skyscrapers planned for chicago.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on February 15, 2008, 02:55:51 pm

New skyscrapers planned for chicago.

Blimey.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: dave on February 15, 2008, 03:11:04 pm
I know its kinda like a jetsons 1950s view of the future, but i've always liked the CN Tower as a building. it really is jawdropping when you're there, really hard to get your head around.

(http://www.webkunst.org/toronto/inhalte/cntower/cn_pic01.jpg)


Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on February 15, 2008, 03:16:17 pm

It's a fucking ski slope.


Seen pics of it before. In a place of buildings with big carbon footprints, can you imagine how much energy is required to keep that thing below zero in a desert?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on April 16, 2008, 01:00:55 pm
Check out this cabin a family have spent 9 years building in Minnesota.

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1638/rusticreusecabin1sk6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/254/rusticreusecabin2my4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

The idea of using shipping containers as a habitable space is an attractive one and it's nice to see someone who's done it so well.

Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Paul B on April 16, 2008, 01:03:14 pm
It's been done a lot before though, one country was using them to build massive low cost housing developments...

(http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11058277/Containerhome_Container_House.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on April 16, 2008, 01:06:57 pm
Makes sense eh and looks good. I remember leafing through a Muji catalogue from a few years back and they have produced something very similar looking in Japan but not from used shipping containers (and probably NOT low cost).
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Paul B on April 16, 2008, 01:10:17 pm
Yeah I guess in terms of sustainable development it makes sense but i've got to say I don't really like either of the two examples. There must be a better way.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on April 16, 2008, 01:12:09 pm
Combining them with other reusable elements might yield some attractive results. Not sure what mind.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on April 16, 2008, 01:54:58 pm
TravelLodge are bunging up a hotel for the London Olympics in this manner (see here (http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/4034338.search) and here (http://uk.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKL088763020080109)).  They're made in China, but I think Denmark would have been more appropriate though  :lol:
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Eddies on April 16, 2008, 05:53:13 pm
Best you'd need ear-plugs for when it rains tho, and they must get mighty hot in summer!
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Paul B on April 16, 2008, 11:34:34 pm
They're made in China, but I think Denmark would have been more appropriate though  :lol:

Well that undermines the whole point of using them in the first place, idiots, I hate sustainable developments and carbon neutral and all that schabang because people always do sh*t like this.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on April 16, 2008, 11:40:08 pm
Well that undermines the whole point of using them in the first place, idiots, I hate sustainable developments and carbon neutral and all that schabang because people always do sh*t like this.

carbon neutral == hyperbole
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on April 17, 2008, 08:08:43 am
I saw a new fuckoff big Landrover the other day that had a "Carbon Neutral" badge, just under the badging on the back. Does this refer to the production or over the lifetime of the car? Either way, it's bollocks.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Houdini on April 17, 2008, 08:28:29 am
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2z7ex77.jpg)
Have you seen this monstrosity in the monstrous place that is Dubai?[

I lived/worked here for a few months some years ago.  The above monstrosity is not so monstrous against other constructions, for example, the man-made islands:

(http://images.livescience.com/images/ig21_above_palmisland_uae_09.jpg)

But remember, this is the place where bottled mineral water is costlier than petrol . . .
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Duma on April 18, 2008, 08:37:21 pm
what, a bit like here?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: hongkongstuey on April 26, 2008, 05:49:45 am
Some funky stuff in Beijing...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2013/2183131931_3299a0d851.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tschaut/2183131931/)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2002/2243512957_3485502b34_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88315679@N00/2243512957/)

we had a couple of internal talks at work on how they designed those two - there's some pretty clever people in the firm I work for (not me included though...)

another of our recent showcase structures from China, not finished yet but pretty logic defying:

(http://www.arup.com/_assets/_img/image676.jpg) (http://www.arup.com/_assets/_img/image8509.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2205/2182721784_7ee8ac6da8.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Zods Beard on April 29, 2008, 07:25:52 pm
Good program on BBC 2 on Wed at 9, Adventures in Architecture, focussing on Brazil's purpose built capital Brasilia, with more cities to follow. Looks good.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 20, 2008, 10:50:05 am
Art deco McDonalds, Melboune, Australia.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/249/447046337_20053064e2_d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dct66/447046337)

Just for you Fiend.  :-*
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Plattsy on July 08, 2008, 12:41:39 pm
This building was brought to my attention and remembered this thread. Kinda doesn't look real to me. Called the Pyramid of Peace in Astana, Kazakhstan

(http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/building-the-future/photogallery/gallery/gallery03-pyramid.jpg)

(http://www.eikongraphia.com/wordpress/wp-content/Foster%20&%20Partners%20-%20Peace%20Pyramid,%20Astana.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: lagerstarfish on July 08, 2008, 03:24:30 pm
shit, isn't that... (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,2309.msg154715.html#msg154715)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Eddies on July 17, 2008, 10:32:10 pm
New Shanghai Hotel built inside a 100m deep water filled quarry!

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=766 (http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=766)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Paul B on July 17, 2008, 11:47:32 pm
Very nice, Hodge Close anybody?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on July 18, 2008, 08:13:16 am
From the same site - Battersea Power Station regeneration project........

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=10011 (http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=10011)

(http://i36.tinypic.com/2nrj8dx.jpg)


(http://i34.tinypic.com/j6tspc.jpg)

.......interesting stuff. They've been talking about doing something useful with the place since I was a kid. We'll see.  :-\
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on July 18, 2008, 08:22:22 am
Cool, pigs might fly after all!
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on July 18, 2008, 08:38:03 am
Cool, pigs might fly after all!

 :lol: Its not been unheard of..

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/britain/images/bip_south_furmanovsky.jpg)
(http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/mediamonkey/spiderpig.jpg)

http://www.batterseapowerstation.org.uk/floyd/floyd.html (http://www.batterseapowerstation.org.uk/floyd/floyd.html)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on July 18, 2008, 09:05:22 am
.....which was exactly what I was implying.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on July 23, 2008, 01:05:06 am

An interesting building with a very green roof  (http://www.greenpacks.org/2008/07/22/acros-fukuoka-thats-what-we-call-a-green-roof/)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Paul B on July 23, 2008, 02:42:09 am
That one looks like it might work in comparison with the majority of overly steep green roofs...
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on August 09, 2008, 10:51:10 pm
I like these styrofoam houses (http://gizmodo.com/5034638/styrofoam-homes-are-typhoon+resistant-refillable-with-people-or-coffee)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Paul B on August 10, 2008, 12:14:52 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzQazjw-4jI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzQazjw-4jI)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on August 10, 2008, 12:41:13 am

That's a great idea
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on October 07, 2008, 04:33:25 pm
Good article about differing architectural views on Dubai here (http://www.eikongraphia.com/?p=1318). It's over a year old but still interesting I think.

Got me thinking about that enormous tower and wondering how construction is going..........

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oQtddNwwcFc (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oQtddNwwcFc)

 :o
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Drew on October 07, 2008, 07:29:25 pm
I'd be interested to know about the testing done on the twisty building. Looks like it could turn into a massive sail. could be a bit like the wobbly bridge by the Tate Modern.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: lagerstarfish on October 07, 2008, 10:54:35 pm
Dynamic Architecture: the traveling community are already there.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Eddies on January 09, 2009, 05:52:48 pm
http://noquedanblogs.com/?p=4230 (http://noquedanblogs.com/?p=4230)

(http://noquedanblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/climb-your-dormitory-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on January 09, 2009, 08:07:06 pm
http://noquedanblogs.com/?p=4230 (http://noquedanblogs.com/?p=4230)

(http://noquedanblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/climb-your-dormitory-3.jpg)

Now that is an effective use of space  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Eddies on January 09, 2009, 08:08:35 pm
Teeeeeeeeeee nuts!!! :o
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on January 15, 2009, 03:38:37 pm
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2v35xro.jpg)

Korean climbing wall.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/falkflicks/124236493/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/falkflicks/124236493/)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: robertostallioni on January 15, 2009, 03:51:46 pm
Looks like its tied to a lamppost. Maybe 20 unused dogcollars tied together.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Bubba on February 14, 2009, 02:41:37 am

Quite like this house (http://www.trendir.com/house-design/timber-house-design-in-the-most-graceful-way.html)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Houdini on February 14, 2009, 10:08:51 pm
WOW.  That house and location is absolutely incredible, I'm gobsmacked.  It's well techno.  I'm not sure I could imagine a finer residence.  WOW.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: andy_e on February 14, 2009, 10:17:33 pm
Is it nerdy of me to want a similar house, but for the gaps between the wood to be dipping at the same angle as the bedrock?   :whistle:
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on February 27, 2009, 12:40:58 pm
Dancing Building - Prague

(http://i44.tinypic.com/zt9jr8.jpg)


http://goeasteurope.about.com/od/czechrepublic/ss/praguephototour_9.htm (http://goeasteurope.about.com/od/czechrepublic/ss/praguephototour_9.htm)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on July 20, 2009, 11:16:17 pm
Zaha's offering for Romania.

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/286/dorobantitowerbyzahahad.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/dorobantitowerbyzahahad.jpg/)

See more here. (http://www.dezeen.com/2009/07/17/dorobanti-tower-by-zaha-hadid-architects/#more-35118)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on August 12, 2009, 06:54:30 pm
A rather nice kitchen system that makes use of waste to grow plants

Check it here. (http://www.dezeen.com/2009/08/11/flow2-kitchen-by-studio-gorm/)

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8246/flow2kitchenbystudiogor.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/flow2kitchenbystudiogor.jpg/)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: chappers on August 18, 2009, 10:01:23 pm
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j272/the_third_eye/DSC_0056.jpg)

my christmas holiday in canada. royal ontario museum.
amazing!
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Houdini on September 18, 2009, 08:56:41 am
Working on an incredible project in Kazakhstan now, I'll pull my finger out and find some shots soon.  Few techie hurdles to jump first, watch this space.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on September 18, 2009, 09:02:00 am
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j272/the_third_eye/DSC_0056.jpg)

my christmas holiday in canada. royal ontario museum.
amazing!

Looks like a spaceship has crashed into an old church there.

Look forward to the pics hOUD.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on September 18, 2009, 10:49:02 am
In anticipation....
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Houdini on September 19, 2009, 09:12:31 am
Not my shot but have this as a taster.  It's more developed at this time.  It's 150m tall.

(http://images.travelpod.com/users/nz2uk/1.1245401680.khan-shatyr.jpg)

Few issues re: uploading pics from my camera...
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: robertostallioni on September 19, 2009, 09:25:42 am
Are you one of these guys?
(http://www.elanso.com/U/P/01/29/16/45633439775064180000.jpg)

Does this guy walk round nodding and grinning?
(http://www.wolfsheadonline.com/wp-images/Bond_Villain.jpg)

I'm sending 006 to aid your escape.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ug2Zz-Ads0g/RkUa-0BR-tI/AAAAAAAAAf8/E9Pu-3LFFqc/dad+ugly+suit.jpg)

Oh, and her.
(http://thepersonna.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/jennifer-love-hewitt-ugly-body-suit.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: lagerstarfish on September 19, 2009, 09:49:46 pm
Nice project Houd. Is it Norman Foster's new Teletubbies house?

(http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/normanfoster2.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Houdini on September 20, 2009, 08:37:32 am
[jizz] Awwww Stallion, who's the minx? [/jizz]

Yes Lagers', it's the Khan Shatyr (King's Tent).  A little overdue now, original finish date was 07.  The central steel tripod weighs 2000 tonnes, the skin of the tent will be the foiltec inflateble cushion (same as the Eden Project in Cornwall).  No cushions have been installed, tensioning work is still continuing on the cable-net that will support the cushions.  It's easily the most badass structure in Kazakhstan, and will cost 100 million euro; it would cost a billion guineas if it were in the UK.

Quite an exciting moment last week.  A bright spark doing hotworks at the point where the tripod narrows at the top third started a fire:  cut thru his own acetylene hose w/ a gas axe, igniting a shitload of oily rags and scaffold planks.  Pretty soon the place was ablaze.  All four of the extinguishers in the head failed, one eventually being despatched from ground level.  A Turkish colleague of mine save the day, and possibly the entire project by descending from the head where he was working to the blaze and turning off the valve of the acetylene bottle - very brave man.  There were many full bottles stored nearby.  Had the fire continued the steel would have warped hideously - probably resulting in total collapse.  I was on the net opposite at the time, one of my Chinese hands nearly layed an egg when he saw the blaze, all he could say was:  Mr Paul!  BOOM!!  Mr Paul! BOOM!!

Ha ha, they work differently outside the UK y' know ... I'm responsible for the ropes/rigging; most of the swearing, and training peasants to be asbeilers.

 

Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: robertostallioni on September 20, 2009, 08:49:23 am
Its Jennifer Lovely Hewitt. Don't shag her, Bond.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on March 23, 2010, 12:07:10 pm
Its internal architecture, but I thought this was rather cool...

(http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/ny/leoniestair3.jpg)(http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/ny/leoniestair.jpg)

Probably cost an arm and a leg (http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/at-europe/at-europe-london-closeup-the-amazing-staircase-042543), but followed some links the other day to DIY instructions (can't work out what the path was now!).

Be a bit of pain for non-standard size books too.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: badong on March 31, 2010, 11:53:43 am
Check out this cabin a family have spent 9 years building in Minnesota.

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1638/rusticreusecabin1sk6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/254/rusticreusecabin2my4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

The idea of using shipping containers as a habitable space is an attractive one and it's nice to see someone who's done it so well.

This looks amazing but doesn't seem to have any insulation, I don't know allot about Minnesota but it looks chilly.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Monolith on May 21, 2010, 11:53:10 pm
I had the immense displeasure today in watching Liverpool University's 3rd year final BA crit. Never before have I seen so many arseholes spouting so much shit. There's a big budget for invited critics to the last review and this arsehole was present. If only you could see what an arrogant tosser he is off camera.

Let's make columns out of carcasses then eh. Well Jackson.

RA Summer Exhibition 2007_C.J. Lim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ppqK5bxzrk#)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on January 13, 2011, 12:10:25 pm
http://londonist.com/2011/01/in-pictures-the-shard-in-2012.php (http://londonist.com/2011/01/in-pictures-the-shard-in-2012.php)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on January 13, 2011, 12:15:06 pm
Completely forgot about this thread!

How about this for some cool subway/underground architecture in Stockholm (http://www.webofentertainment.com/2010/06/swedish-subway-system.html)?  (Loads more shots on the blog than the three below if they actually embed).

Beats the pants off of the "advertising on every available square inch" approach on the London Underground.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qRy7i8Xa2g4/TBpVKtLagEI/AAAAAAAAWpU/N6IF1HrqF3g/s640/33.jpeg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qRy7i8Xa2g4/TBpVF2z-pAI/AAAAAAAAWo8/wteD-g7ydEU/s1600/36.jpeg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qRy7i8Xa2g4/TBpU94vGxDI/AAAAAAAAWoU/ZWwBZn3a3AU/s640/52.jpeg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on January 13, 2011, 12:20:48 pm
Brilliant. Moving into Dr Evil's lair territory again there.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: duncan on January 13, 2011, 01:55:26 pm
Nice and good thread resurrection.

Beats the pants off of the "advertising on every available square inch" approach on the London Underground.

Exception is the Jubilee Line Extension, especially the awesome Westminster Station which is like something out of Doom.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CU8nMvI-8Vo/TPfHpNBgjcI/AAAAAAAACWI/9VadgZ3UlFs/s640/westminster.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CU8nMvI-8Vo/TPfHg971NqI/AAAAAAAACV8/WtCAfiYsYgM/s640/wesminster+2+copy.JPG)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on February 07, 2011, 10:11:32 am
Interesting bedroom design...
(http://i.imgur.com/D4tlN.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Eddies on February 07, 2011, 12:09:47 pm
Not the ideal place to wake up with a raging hangover!
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on February 07, 2011, 12:14:07 pm
"Tonight you sleep with the fishes"

"Do I, that sounds cool!"
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on March 09, 2011, 08:32:21 pm
Of course you need Scafolding (http://www.scaffoldage.com/) to make or repair most structures 8)...

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhsg81ghee1qhie3ho1_500.jpg)
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhsgets6gT1qhie3ho1_r1_500.jpg)
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhsgvdCLtm1qhie3ho1_500.jpg)
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhsporVsdH1qhie3ho1_500.jpg)
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhseppemPm1qhie3ho1_500.jpg)
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhsdgmhFlw1qhie3ho1_500.jpg)
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhsdb0D0ZC1qhie3ho1_500.jpg)

Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: robertostallioni on March 09, 2011, 08:39:10 pm
Top one looks like the ninja warrior final.

Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on March 09, 2011, 10:04:23 pm
 ;D

I think its the Sagrada familia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_familia).
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Paul B on May 05, 2011, 09:24:33 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8_Spruce_Street (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8_Spruce_Street)

Funky
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Drew on May 05, 2011, 09:40:59 pm
Is that part of the shape? It looks like it might be just painted like that.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: dave on May 05, 2011, 09:56:51 pm
Some of our walls do that.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Duma on May 05, 2011, 10:48:57 pm
Is that part of the shape? It looks like it might be just painted like that.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Beekman_Place_New_York.jpg/400px-Beekman_Place_New_York.jpg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Beekman_Place_New_York.jpg)
That ain't paint.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on May 06, 2011, 09:18:25 am
Didn't he also design the Springfield Concert Hall / Penitentiary?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on May 11, 2011, 01:14:19 pm
Wasn't sure where to put this but it's well worth a look.

Sligo appartment development. Prices from €320,000..... (http://zxcode.com/2011/05/the-mill-apartments-ballisodare/)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on May 19, 2011, 10:55:56 am
Nice idea, but they need to work on PS Skills.

http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/9/view/14516/ugo-architecture-barcelona-rock.html (http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/9/view/14516/ugo-architecture-barcelona-rock.html)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 15, 2011, 05:35:54 pm
Really hope this works but can't say I'm confident:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/architecture/sheffields-park-hill-estate-expectations-2297385.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/architecture/sheffields-park-hill-estate-expectations-2297385.html)

If nothing else, the flats are already starting to look a lot nicer.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on June 15, 2011, 05:47:20 pm
It'll remain the white elephant its already been for years, just more lurid.

Only about 1/8 of the place has actually had anything done to it so far and they're really fucking up the path/cycle-way on the town side as they're laying new kerbs and tarmac (regular route home).

I thought they'd tried to sell flats in advance before work had started, that either didn't work or I was misinformed (there was a program on the BBC a year or so ago about it and some guy from National Trust or whoever looks after its interest/status as a listed building was enthusing about its lovely lines and concrete, but I bet he hadn't signed up to buy and live in one of them, think it was in that that I recall them saying they were selling them prospectively).
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 30, 2011, 12:52:48 pm
WOW:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8607781/China-opens-worlds-longest-sea-bridge.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8607781/China-opens-worlds-longest-sea-bridge.html)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on June 30, 2011, 02:01:56 pm
Cool, it's even got intersections.

How long before that appears in a movie. Next Bond?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Eddies on August 03, 2011, 12:24:36 pm
Italian-designed-floating-resort

http://www.gizmag.com/qatars-italian-designed-floating-resort/19404/picture/139010/ (http://www.gizmag.com/qatars-italian-designed-floating-resort/19404/picture/139010/)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on February 14, 2013, 11:50:17 am
http://www.climbing.co.za/2013/02/this-building-becomes-transparent-at-night/ (http://www.climbing.co.za/2013/02/this-building-becomes-transparent-at-night/)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on March 08, 2013, 01:14:32 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Qk3OPbT.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on May 29, 2013, 11:54:53 am
World's tallest building to be built in 90 days:

http://gizmodo.com/video-this-will-be-the-worlds-tallest-skyscraper-in-a-510140081 (http://gizmodo.com/video-this-will-be-the-worlds-tallest-skyscraper-in-a-510140081)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on September 18, 2013, 01:15:35 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUccAPUCcAAeJYG.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on December 22, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
Look inside... (http://imgur.com/a/0uTzM)

(http://i.imgur.com/jhX2XCg.jpg) (http://imgur.com/a/0uTzM)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Falling Down on December 22, 2013, 07:11:04 pm
Cool presents for Christmas http://architecture.lego.com/en-gb/products/
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: duncan on February 05, 2014, 12:29:05 pm
(http://la.curbed.com/uploads/image2.jpg)

Bond villain's lair in the middle of Joshua Tree (http://la.curbed.com/archives/2014/01/breathtaking_joshua_tree_supervillain_lair_for_sale_for_first_time_1.php). Yours for $3 million. Lasers and shark-infested swimming pool not included.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on February 07, 2014, 09:11:13 am
(http://ad009cdnb.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/52e1b32de8e44e081d00003d_new-wave-architecture-designs-rock-gym-for-polur_2-1000x954.jpg)
[img]

In Iran (http://www.archdaily.com/470579/new-wave-architecture-designs-rock-gym-for-polur/) (looks like design mock-ups rather than the finished article).
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Fadanoid on February 07, 2014, 11:03:18 am
Stunning. Simply Stunning.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slackline on February 17, 2014, 02:47:11 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/zxz5H7J.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mLTpA99.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RUPzFvi.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QNZ9fP2.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: tomtom on February 17, 2014, 03:21:49 pm
Cool. there was a great program on BBC4 last night about 'Brutalism'.

The presenter (probably famous) reminded me of how some of my social science colleagues hold court spout shit and whilst there was a fair bit of rubbing chin on my side, it was interesting and engaging.. Probably on the iPlayer still...
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Stubbs on February 17, 2014, 03:41:01 pm
Meades: total legend, cheers Tom, will check it out later.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03vrphc/Bunkers_Brutalism_and_Bloodymindedness_Concrete_Poetry_with_Jonathan_Meades_Episode_1/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03vrphc/Bunkers_Brutalism_and_Bloodymindedness_Concrete_Poetry_with_Jonathan_Meades_Episode_1/)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 17, 2014, 07:11:11 pm
Very good, enjoyed it last night and looking forward to part 2. So little on tv that ever challenges you intellectually nowadays, but Meade never disappoints. Always a few moments of extreme dry humour too (if it isn't all).
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: gme on February 17, 2014, 09:52:42 pm
 I thoroughly enjoyed it. Meades style takes a bit of getting used to. You have to be in the right headspace to not get a bit overwhelmed.
Found it quite hard to keep the timeline working in my head as he jumped back and forth quite a bit.
Looking forward to the next one.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: tomtom on February 17, 2014, 09:55:41 pm
He paints a very engaging narrative. Just enough 'isms' to make it thought provoking but not too many to make it (too) pretentious :)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Falling Down on February 17, 2014, 10:18:38 pm
If you've not seen his series on France which is bloody brilliant, go to MeadesShrine on You Tube as all his documentaries are there.  I got a box of his photographs as postcards with witty aphorisms on the back for Christmas and as I've mentioned on the Books thread.  "Museums Without Walls", a collection of all his essays, was published last year.  Top drawer..
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 18, 2014, 10:20:18 am
Ah I nearly bought the Pidgin Snaps myself, they're good then?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Jaspersharpe on February 23, 2014, 10:26:34 pm
Cheers for the heads up on this. Watched the episode that was just on BBC4 and thought it was great.

Hard work at times and challenging in different ways (found myself totally agreeing and then totally disagreeing with him on pretty much the same subject in a matter of seconds more than twice) but also very informative and very funny.

The shot of him wearing a onesie, reading Harry Potter and shoveling junk food down his neck to illustrate his view that the general public's opinion is childish and shouldn't be considered in matters of architecture (and how 50 years ago adults dressed, read and ate like adults rather than children) was marvellous.

And aside from all that the building pr0n was amazing.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: andy popp on March 07, 2024, 04:11:54 pm
Adore every single one of these incredible, beautiful Brutalist churches.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2024/mar/07/the-heavy-hand-of-god-europes-brutalist-churches-in-pictures
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Moo on March 07, 2024, 05:52:49 pm
They’re universally awful !!!!!
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: stone on March 07, 2024, 06:04:15 pm
Adore every single one of these incredible, beautiful Brutalist churches.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2024/mar/07/the-heavy-hand-of-god-europes-brutalist-churches-in-pictures
Awesome!
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: gme on March 07, 2024, 06:49:14 pm
Love them. Lots of these places have an amazing beauty and warmth inside them.

Worth looking inside if you ever pass them.

Watch “kin” on iplayer last week and was taken with the church they used in the series. It was beautiful.  enclosed and austere as you looked towards the alter sat in congregation but light beautiful and colourful looking out.

https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/11210004/catholic-church-of-the-holy-spirit-limekiln-lane-limekilnfarm-greenhills-dublin
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: andy popp on March 07, 2024, 07:07:02 pm
Love them. Lots of these places have an amazing beauty and warmth inside them.

Worth looking inside if you ever pass them.

Absolutely! Always worth a look! We recently discovered this church just metres from home - Bethlehem Kirke - designed by the architects of the much more famous Grundtvigs Kirke. Early C20th, so earlier than the Brutalists churches, but a lot of Danish churches have an incredibly austere appearance that reminds me of the later examples.

(https://scontent-cph2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/421615148_10160922868044590_1911757208552596148_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=2Sqg4PmzfFQAX9TCfsk&_nc_ht=scontent-cph2-1.xx&cb_e2o_trans=q&oh=00_AfBvyhB18B9mWW_SS4u90Ix7_9YIsNRO25E4CukIKTU9MA&oe=65EFB61B)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Fiend on March 07, 2024, 08:12:36 pm
They’re universally awful !!!!!
So is religion TBF...
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: webbo on March 07, 2024, 08:32:36 pm
I’m not sold on the concrete compared to carved stone.
As a 15 year old I got kicked out of the history class due to disagreement with the teacher. I had to do Religious instruction, as we had to do a project I managed to do this on Cathedral architecture. I got my mum to take me to York Minister, there was a flower festival on with all the priests vestments as part of the display. 50 years on it still sticks in my memory.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: mark20 on March 08, 2024, 11:17:50 am
We did a module in GCSE History class at school about the architecture of churches, which I found it strangely fascinating. There is a very particular spot in the churchyard in the town I grew up in where you can stand to see the original Norman window, between the parapets of a later part of the building.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on March 08, 2024, 12:26:59 pm
Not only are they beautiful, but there is a lot of amazing engineering involved, like the classic flying buttresses (as per Notre Dame) which allowed them to be wider and higher inside. Some of the ruined Abbeys and Churches (Kirkstall, Fountain, Arbroath spring to mind) are still beautiful, and almost like cutaway models.

(Agree with Fiend though).

Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Falling Down on March 08, 2024, 06:16:04 pm
I read this last year. It’s great. An academic researchers journey to becoming a stonemason.

 https://www.alexwoodcock.co.uk/king-of-dust (https://www.alexwoodcock.co.uk/king-of-dust)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Duma on March 08, 2024, 09:16:02 pm
Thanks for the link fd, the church of storms in the extract is just down the road from where I grew up and return there pretty much every year, I've always loved it.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: stone on March 08, 2024, 09:44:30 pm
Fellow fans of religious concrete might appreciate this too https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ancient-roman-concrete-has-self-healing-capabilities/
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 09, 2024, 04:29:08 am
As a small boy, I would follow my Grandfather around the site of Central Church in Torquay, watching it grow into something that to me, seemed so futuristic and amazing. It seemed so massive and imposing at that time, yet strangely delicate, not at all brutalist. My Grandfather was “prominent” in the Methodist community (he must spin in his grave at my adult antics) and they were, then, almost beyond austere (when he died, in 1979, the minister (deliberately lower case) came to sit with my Grandmother, mother and her sisters and berated them, harangued them, to pray for my Grandfather’s damned soul, because he’d been know to enjoy a glass of wine at social functions and fraternise with arch “Papists” having attended a few functions at “the Devil’s layer” (Buckingham Palace) with his daughters).
Yet, this church is almost joyous. It shows the transformation that was occurring in the church as the old Fire and Brimstone fanatics gave way to guitar strumming, long haired and bearded, young preachers; Kumbaya’ing into our dowdy lives, fresh from missionary work and startlingly happy.
(https://i.ibb.co/Xjx8cdF/IMG-9769.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/KmS3yWh/IMG-9768.jpg)

As a footnote:
I was living in a small Cornish village at the time of the ministers visit, from which my Grandfather hailed and the family had gathered for his funeral there. I had listened at the key hole during that disgusting diatribe. The following Sunday, my mother walked me to the Chapel school rooms for the weekly indoctrination session and handed me over to the two old village maids that ran Sunday school (fucking hypocrites, they lived together as “friends”).
 I walked through the classroom, to the toilets, pushed the bar on the fire escape and ran off into the meadows and woods to fight pirates. I never went back.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: andy popp on March 09, 2024, 05:54:07 am
Thanks everyone, some really interesting responses.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Falling Down on March 09, 2024, 08:05:28 am
Thanks for the link fd, the church of storms in the extract is just down the road from where I grew up and return there pretty much every year, I've always loved it.

Oh that’s great Duma.  If you’d like to borrow the book I could try to get it to you. Post or something?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Duma on March 09, 2024, 07:36:32 pm
Thanks for the offer FD, I have already pre-ordered the paperback though! Will hang on until that's out (May) as I'll likely pass it on to my dad as a suspect it'll also be right up his street .
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: gme on March 09, 2024, 10:21:34 pm
You need to look at these places in context of the era they were built in. The great cathedrals and monuments that still exist today were built in a time that is simply not possible to recreate now, nor was it in the 50s60s. The architects of the time were trying to create the same impression on a vastly smaller budget.
Durham cathedral, York minster or St Paul’s could not be built now.

I walked around the natural history museum two weeks ago and the major thing that I took from it wasn’t the collection but the fact the we would be incapable of building the receptacle that stores it now. It  bc would not pass public costing scrutiny.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Tom de Gay on March 10, 2024, 07:41:13 am
You need to look at these places in context of the era they were built in. The great cathedrals and monuments that still exist today were built in a time that is simply not possible to recreate now, nor was it in the 50s60s. The architects of the time were trying to create the same impression on a vastly smaller budget.
Durham cathedral, York minster or St Paul’s could not be built now.

Part of this is the overall importance of ecclesiastical architecture today. Building a giant cathedral isn’t the same flex it was in the 1200s. Through the 1960s the US spent 5% of GDP, every year, on sending people to the moon. So perhaps it was more a question of their spending priorities, rather than the absolute affordability of enormous stone monuments.

More cost efficient ways of building tall impressive stuff obviously exist now too. Prior to the Eiffel Tower, the tallest building in the world was the Great Pyramid.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: PeteHukb on March 10, 2024, 08:22:25 am
. Prior to the Eiffel Tower, the tallest building in the world was the Great Pyramid.
Don't forget Lincoln Cathedral - tallest (known) building in the world at 160m from 1311 to 1549 when the spire collapsed, and not actually surpassed in height until 1884 when the Washington Monument was built (5 years before the Eiffel Tower blew them all out of the water at 324m).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_freestanding_structures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_freestanding_structures)
Apologies, there are some really nice graphics of this timeline but I'm struggling to link to any of them.

I also realise some of these heights/dates may well be disputed, so I'm willing to be corrected. Also, clearly the Great Pyramid's record reign is unmatched (2500BC-1311AD).
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Falling Down on March 10, 2024, 10:49:53 am
Good knowledge folks. Didn’t know much of that.

Duma, hope you enjoy the book.  Alex is on Twitter.  Interesting guy with good taste in music and books.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Tom de Gay on March 10, 2024, 11:43:25 am
Don't forget Lincoln Cathedral - tallest (known) building in the world at 160m from 1311 to 1549 when the spire collapsed
Photos or it didn’t happen! :)

(Grew up near Lincoln. Its scale is overwhelming even today. Imagine being a medieval steeplejack on that…)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 10, 2024, 11:55:40 am
You need to look at these places in context of the era they were built in. The great cathedrals and monuments that still exist today were built in a time that is simply not possible to recreate now, nor was it in the 50s60s. The architects of the time were trying to create the same impression on a vastly smaller budget.
Durham cathedral, York minster or St Paul’s could not be built now.

Part of this is the overall importance of ecclesiastical architecture today. Building a giant cathedral isn’t the same flex it was in the 1200s. Through the 1960s the US spent 5% of GDP, every year, on sending people to the moon. So perhaps it was more a question of their spending priorities, rather than the absolute affordability of enormous stone monuments.

More cost efficient ways of building tall impressive stuff obviously exist now too. Prior to the Eiffel Tower, the tallest building in the world was the Great Pyramid.

I look out of my apartment window (100 m) and my office window, every day at an 830 metre tower…
We’ve come a long way, really very quickly. Humans (or something that would become human) started making stone tools, what, 250k years ago? Frankly, I live in something that very much resembles the Blade Runner world, visually at least. Drive down the 14 lane Sheikh Zayed road, swooping road bridge’s around you, speeding elevated metro flashing by, helicopters buzzing overhead, all manner of odd vehicles passing you, bizarre towers with alarming cantilevered sections, air conditioned moving walkways, vast shopping malls covering many square kilometres, fountains, lakes, canals.
Either Blade Runner or World of Tomorrow, depending on your mood…
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: mark20 on March 10, 2024, 11:58:05 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGKtEB-8IXE&t=186s
Always worth sharing this in case anyone hasn't seen it. John Redhead climbing Norwich Cathedral
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: stone on March 10, 2024, 12:40:11 pm
Humans (or something that would become human) started making stone tools, what, 250k years ago?
I really liked the series of podcasts about archeological objects in the British Museum. It starts with a 2M year old hand axe https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pwn7m
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 10, 2024, 12:58:28 pm
Humans (or something that would become human) started making stone tools, what, 250k years ago?
I really liked the series of podcasts about archeological objects in the British Museum. It starts with a 2M year old hand axe https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pwn7m

I just read a Smithsonian article on this. 2.6M YA. Earlier today I’d watched an old Brian Cox doc, where he’d been looking at the Kenyan Obsidian tools and mistakenly taken them to be the earliest examples. Homo Sapiens are surprisingly younger than tool manufacturing! I should have known that.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: stone on March 10, 2024, 02:22:57 pm
Even in the UK there are tools that predate Homo sapiens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happisburgh_footprints#Archaeological_context
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: stone on March 12, 2024, 08:08:31 am
I'm thinking this wonderful AI design would be ideal for Count Binface to promise to build as a new "Lee Anderson Islamic Centre" - if he is thinking of manifesto ideas.
(https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/islamic-architecture-is-known-its-innovative-designs-that-blend-modern-traditional-elements-resulting-aweinspiring-structures-that-capture-imagination-generated-by-ai_661108-5130.jpg?w=1800)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 12, 2024, 01:29:35 pm
Quote
Prior to the Eiffel Tower, the tallest building in the world was the Great Pyramid.

This is a gross over-simplification I feel I must correct, although (tl;dr) the facts do reinforce your point rather than refuting it.

Several medieval cathedrals exceeded the Great Pyramid in height. The tallest of them was Lincoln, which reached 525ft and was the Tallest Building in the WorldTM between 1311 and 1548, when the spire fell down in a storm and the title passed to St. Mary's church in Stralsund, Germany. The grand Beauvais Cathedral in France briefly stole the title in 1569 only to fall down four years later. St. Mary's in turn burnt down following a lightning strike in 1647, and after 500 years the title defaulted back to Cheops.

Or it would have. Time had not been kind to Cheops. By projection of its assumed original height of 481 feet, over time to the present, by 1647 it is thought the desert sands had ground Cheops down sufficiently that Strasbourg cathedral, a medieval also-ran at 466 feet, took the title and whose topmost cross thenceforth looked down on Giza's continuing slow reductions for the following 227 years. Note well that this is ten years less than Lincoln's reign.

From 1870 things began to change radically. Several big European cathedrals were completed, including Cologne, whose construction had begun in 1248 but paused in 1560 (HS2 take note). Its twin towers finally topped out in 1880, at 515 feet.

All of these structures were mostly stone, or stone with wooden spires, barely exceeded the 500ft mark, and were completed for reasons we can best categorise as religious. The tallest of them was Lincoln.

In fact it would take secularism to top Lincoln; only 4 years after the completion of Cologne up rose the Washington Column, the first structure in history to exceed Lincoln Cathedral in absolute height but also the first record holder built with secular motivations. Futuristic it was not. Taking it's architectural and monumental inspiration from ancient Egypt, and constructed entirely in stone, it had more in common with Cheops than anything else on the list and the secular inspiration was the only modern thing about it.

The future though, was waiting in the wings. Only 5 years later Gustave Eiffel completed his grand secular gesture in France, sharing non-utilitarianism with Washington but this time in pure steel. And it was big. At 1083 feet it was almost than twice the height of Lincoln, but would only hold the record for forty years until the coming of the modern era in the 1930's. It was a multi-pronged attack; materials, commerce, utilitarianism. The Chrysler building was only 20 feet taller than Eiffel, but you could rent space in it right to the top. The Empire State topped at 1250 feet only a year or two later (a later pinnacle took it to 1470); the same decade saw guyed radio masts reach similar heights.

From many places on the moors above Sheffield, on a clear day, you can make out a low ridge on the horizon, far to the east. At it's southern tip, just visible, is the pimple of Lincoln Cathedral. In the modern era, despite the lights of Emley Moor (tallest freestanding building in the UK 1971-present) peeping over the moor to the north, I find it very hard to imagine looking across this view in the 1400s to the tallest building in the world, the GOAT of medieval architecture. I've seen the Burj Khalifa rising over distant desert sands, but from the air-conditioned cabin of an intercontinental jet. Whose mind would have been blown the most?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Yossarian on March 12, 2024, 02:35:55 pm
I'm not generally not one to big up postmodernism, but I do rather like Johnson and Burgee's Crystal Cathedral in California.

(https://images.adsttc.com/media/images/5277/cda4/e8e4/4eb7/1800/0017/slideshow/Crystal_Cathedral_Seating_compressed.jpg?1383583135)

(https://images.adsttc.com/media/images/526e/b24a/e8e4/4e88/a000/05cd/slideshow/crystal_siphorous_1.jpg?1382986305)

(https://images.adsttc.com/media/images/526e/b97b/e8e4/4e88/a000/05d0/slideshow/section.jpg?1382988139)

(https://cruxnow.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=1920,quality=75/https://wp.cruxnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/cathedral.jpg)

(https://www.ncronline.org/files/RNS-Crystal-Cathedral5-112818.jpg)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Tom de Gay on March 12, 2024, 02:45:05 pm
Outstanding knowledge JB. I suspect Fifty English Steeples by Julian Flannery could be in the Brown library already, but if not, you might enjoy it. The author's thesis is that the best church steeples are located in a limestone belt stretching from Somerset, across the East Midlands and into the East Riding of Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 12, 2024, 03:03:00 pm
Thanks, I’ll check it out. Must admit I’m not so much intrigued by churches as tall structures. It’s worth a diversion to Northampton, for example, to see the Express lift tower, a brutalist secular spire par excellence. Plus they almost always have benchmarks on them.

Interesting theory. Portland aside, it’s hard to imagine it’s due to the quality of the building material. I imagine it’s the soil and subsequent farming wealth. When I photographed a walking guide to the Cotswolds I was frequently amazed by the grandness of three hundred year-old farmhouses.

And apologies to Pete, I’d spent an hour typing that bollocks before noticing you’d already said it all with admirable concision and accuracy.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Yossarian on March 12, 2024, 03:32:11 pm

From many places on the moors above Sheffield, on a clear day, you can make out a low ridge on the horizon, far to the east. At it's southern tip, just visible, is the pimple of Lincoln Cathedral. In the modern era, despite the lights of Emley Moor (tallest freestanding building in the UK 1971-present) peeping over the moor to the north, I find it very hard to imagine looking across this view in the 1400s to the tallest building in the world, the GOAT of medieval architecture. I've seen the Burj Khalifa rising over distant desert sands, but from the air-conditioned cabin of an intercontinental jet. Whose mind would have been blown the most?

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" cried Michael Owen as he arrived in his chopper with "special powers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFnymJDZAS8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFnymJDZAS8)
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: slab_happy on March 12, 2024, 03:36:10 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGKtEB-8IXE&t=186s
Always worth sharing this in case anyone hasn't seen it. John Redhead climbing Norwich Cathedral

On that note, "Climbing Great Buildings" is currently on iPlayer:

https://rydra-wong.dreamwidth.org/908020.html
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 12, 2024, 03:45:28 pm
Whose mind would have been blown the most?

"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" cried Michael Owen as he arrived in his chopper with "special powers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFnymJDZAS8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFnymJDZAS8)

😂  Outstanding, how nobody pulled the plug on that production is beyond me. As a bonus YouTube suggested I watch ‘fish and rice cakes’ to follow. In bits now.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: andy_e on March 12, 2024, 03:47:31 pm
Portland aside, it’s hard to imagine it’s due to the quality of the building material.

I think the reference to the limestone must be the Jurassic oolitic limestone belt that Bath and many other places are built out of, which runs diagonally up the country?
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: teestub on March 12, 2024, 04:03:32 pm
Portland aside, it’s hard to imagine it’s due to the quality of the building material.

I think the reference to the limestone must be the Jurassic oolitic limestone belt that Bath and many other places are built out of, which runs diagonally up the country?

Yeah that’s the Cotswold vernacular for sure. For some reason always looks fancier than the Carb Lime and Gritstone equivalents
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: andy popp on March 12, 2024, 05:03:01 pm
Bugger
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: andy popp on March 12, 2024, 05:06:23 pm
Portland aside, it’s hard to imagine it’s due to the quality of the building material.

I think the reference to the limestone must be the Jurassic oolitic limestone belt that Bath and many other places are built out of, which runs diagonally up the country?

Yeah that’s the Cotswold vernacular for sure. For some reason always looks fancier than the Carb Lime and Gritstone equivalents

As JB hints, this is as much or more socio-economic as geological in explanation. In the medieval period these were all very wealthy wool-producing regions and the backbone of the Medieval English economy. I suppose that - ultimately - that is also tied somewhat to geology, but I wouldn't know about that.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Johnny Brown on March 12, 2024, 05:14:08 pm
Yes, it was defo wool in the Cotswolds. The wolds found across that band are typically sheep pasture even now, it may drain too freely for crops or often be too steep, I’m not sure. My impression is Bath stone is great for building but most of that band is not. Oolitic means made of little eggs (concretions) which often means crumbly, and by the time you get to the Yorkshire wolds, closer to chalk.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: andy_e on March 12, 2024, 06:01:06 pm
Loving the intersection of lithostratigraphy, locality and industry, antcedence and inheritance working across temporal, geological and cultural palimpsests.

Bugger

I also agree with this
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: teestub on March 12, 2024, 06:32:04 pm
Loving the intersection of lithostratigraphy, locality and industry, antcedence and inheritance working across temporal, geological and cultural palimpsests.

This is a good one if you haven’t seen it before https://deepseanews.com/2012/06/how-presidential-elections-are-impacted-by-a-100-million-year-old-coastline/
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: tomtom on March 13, 2024, 06:46:07 am
Portland aside, it’s hard to imagine it’s due to the quality of the building material.

I think the reference to the limestone must be the Jurassic oolitic limestone belt that Bath and many other places are built out of, which runs diagonally up the country?

Yeah that’s the Cotswold vernacular for sure. For some reason always looks fancier than the Carb Lime and Gritstone equivalents

As JB hints, this is as much or more socio-economic as geological in explanation. In the medieval period these were all very wealthy wool-producing regions and the backbone of the Medieval English economy. I suppose that - ultimately - that is also tied somewhat to geology, but I wouldn't know about that.

There is also the idea of these churches and cathedrals of being an expression and reminder (to the locals) of the power of the church, In much the same way as King Edward built the 'Ring of Iron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Iron)' castles around Wales - of limited strategic value they were mainly there as a both a reminder of who was boss and a middle finger to the local and oppressed population.

I have a Dutch colleague who describes the cathedrals of the Netherlands as islands on the sea of land. How on a very flat landscape the tall spire of a church could be seen for many miles and would be symbolic for both navigation but again for the importance of the church on the landscape. Its similar with Beverly Minister - and Selby Minister (in particlar standing out for miles around - though now rather dwarfed by Drax...). Which is perhaps not too surprising as the Dutch were fundamental in draining the landscape of both East Yorkshire and the washlands over to the edge of the Mag lime near Doncaster.

Whilst I'm here and rambling - most of Doncaster is subsiding, Except for the cathedral. There is extensive coal mining across the region and under the city - but was not permitted under the footprint of the cathedral.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Tom de Gay on March 14, 2024, 09:35:51 am
Portland aside, it’s hard to imagine it’s due to the quality of the building material.

I think the reference to the limestone must be the Jurassic oolitic limestone belt that Bath and many other places are built out of, which runs diagonally up the country?

Yes it’s the oolitic limestone which was the absolute business when it came to busting out the spindliest spires and the best-looking ballflowers. For durability and workability the bubbly Jurassic stuff seems to be unequaled.

When it came to building the Palace of Westminster in the 1840s, the maglime Anston Stone was selected. Whilst it might be good for crimpy bouldering with a decent spread across the grades, it was a poor choice of building material in coal-burning London and was trashed within a decade. It the 1920s it was repaired with the harder-wearing oolitic limestone from Lincolnshire.

Regional wealth and influence must play a significant part in the distribution of the ‘top fifty’, however the South East is conspicuous by its absence. Perhaps London had mitigating circumstances – what with the whole city burning down – but I’d have thought Kent would have been well-heeled, being productive farmland and home to the most important cathedral in the country. But when it came to church steeples, it seems they had neither the masons nor the materials to produce works of lasting significance.

As an aside, the book includes the accounts for the construction of the church in Louth. In an all-too-familiar turn of events, progress was seriously hampered by master mason ‘Xpoforo’ going off onto other jobs before the work was finished. Messengers were dispatched to find him to no avail, work was paid for but not done, and after a decade or so of delays new contractors were brought in to finish the job.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: SA Chris on March 14, 2024, 10:27:25 am
I remember it being an average novel, but Pillars of the Earth goes into Cathedrals and Architecture in some detail which I enjoyed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pillars_of_the_Earth
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: teestub on March 14, 2024, 10:37:45 am

Regional wealth and influence must play a significant part in the distribution of the ‘top fifty’, however the South East is conspicuous by its absence. Perhaps London had mitigating circumstances – what with the whole city burning down – but I’d have thought Kent would have been well-heeled, being productive farmland and home to the most important cathedral in the country. But when it came to church steeples, it seems they had neither the masons nor the materials to produce works of lasting significance.


Apparently the Normans imported their own stone of choice for Canterbury https://info.amarestone.com/blog/caen-limestone-its-place-in-english-history

I’ve deffo been to some nice churches in Kent, but I guess they’ve generally been of that flint and mortar type build, little tower rather than a big spire.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Tom de Gay on March 14, 2024, 10:47:39 am
Apparently the Normans imported their own stone of choice for Canterbury https://info.amarestone.com/blog/caen-limestone-its-place-in-english-history
Indeed, oolitic again.
Title: Re: Architecture
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 02, 2024, 09:31:45 am
Saw this, thought of this thread:

 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4WZixgNOSu/?igsh=MTJrbzRwczVzdHNudA== (https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4WZixgNOSu/?igsh=MTJrbzRwczVzdHNudA==)
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