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get involved: access, environment, BMC / Re: Changing the BMC
« Last post by shark on Today at 09:01:26 am »
UKC news item linking an article on the the BMC website published on Friday with linked papers on a delay in reporting year end figures, plans to split GB Climbing in two and a paper specifically rebutting my proposal to place GBClimbing in a separate subsidiary.

The proposal to effectively split GB Climbing into two parts can be categorised as the bits that UKSport are interested in (and funds) and those that don’t effectively creates a UK Sport outpost within the BMC which obviously works well for UKSport to the point where we might as well hand them the keys IMO.

I currently think we are reaching a tipping point. The direction of travel seems to be towards becoming “any other faceless, CEO led organisation” as one ukc poster puts it.

Membership concerns and interest and democracy no longer feel to me like they are a priority and more of an inconvenience.

Time for a subsidiary split off for recreational climbing?



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Unfortunately? I’ll still be on Kalymnos. I hope that there will be a few questions raised as I think the organisation’s response to the proposed subsidiary resolution over the last few days has been appalling.

More info here: https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/thread/bmc_resolutions_submission-770331
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news / Re: significant repeats
« Last post by dunnyg on Yesterday at 10:25:05 pm »
Looks ace, those moves look wild!
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music, art and culture / Re: Assisted Dying, UK Parliament
« Last post by stone on Yesterday at 09:44:48 pm »
I just googled and saw that Amy Proffitt also wrote something about this subject when the RCP was choosing what position to take: https://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/news/assisted-dying-why-rcp-should-be-opposed
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news / Re: significant repeats
« Last post by Fiend on Yesterday at 09:23:50 pm »
Good footage of a great line. Surely one for the ground-up massive these days?
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music, art and culture / Re: Assisted Dying, UK Parliament
« Last post by stone on Yesterday at 09:15:02 pm »

Perhaps what is messed up is people seeing it as somehow being undignified to be demented and incontinent or whatever. When we are new born babies, we are like that and everyone is fine with that.
When I get very old, I do hope the people around me recognise that I have more agency than a newborn baby.
My impression (happy to be corrected) is that when people say they want to "die with dignity", what they mean is minimising the period when they lack agency. Sometimes disease does cause us to lose all agency doesn't it?

I haven't really got a coherant view about all of this myself. That is why I was asking everyone on here. I was struck by what Amy Proffitt was saying. She was wanting better resourced palliative end-of-life care, but very much not wanting this assisted dying bill to go through. 

Coronation Street (the TV soap) currently has a storyline about a character with MND and wishing to have assisted dying. I thought they did a good job showing all kinds of consequent strains in the relationships with those around him. The situation seemed similar in a Louis Theroux episode interviewing families where it was legal in the USA.

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shootin' the shit / Re: Cunty Drone Man - rural myth or real life rock star?
« Last post by Tony on Yesterday at 08:04:53 pm »
Isn't openly trolling against the forums terms and conditions on sign up.  :shrug:
You mean as opposed to “inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane,…”
 :worms:
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shootin' the shit / Re: Cunty Drone Man - rural myth or real life rock star?
« Last post by SamT on Yesterday at 07:50:05 pm »
Isn't openly trolling against the forums terms and conditions on sign up.  :shrug:
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news / Re: significant repeats
« Last post by Kingy on Yesterday at 06:50:11 pm »
Angus Davidson has repeated Purgatory E8 7b at Back Bowden

www.instagram.com/p/C6BaqMeNU-C/?hl=en
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music, art and culture / Re: Assisted Dying, UK Parliament
« Last post by mrjonathanr on Yesterday at 06:42:36 pm »


Perhaps what is messed up is people seeing it as somehow being undignified to be demented and incontinent or whatever. When we are new born babies, we are like that and everyone is fine with that.


When I get very old, I do hope the people around me recognise that I have more agency than a newborn baby.
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