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Title: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on June 26, 2013, 08:13:08 am
http://peakdistrictnt.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/burbage-to-be-transformed.html?m=1 (http://peakdistrictnt.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/burbage-to-be-transformed.html?m=1)
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: lagerstarfish on June 26, 2013, 10:54:13 am
good news

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Some of the site will then be restored back to moorland, while the rest of the area will be replanted with native oak and birch woodland
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: Muenchener on June 26, 2013, 11:06:59 am
+1

I spent a fair bit of time a few years ago as a volunteer on conservation proejcts in Scotland, re-planting & protecting native woodland in areas where forestry plantations had been cleared. Mostly Glen Affric. Very worthwhile and very reawarding to take part in.
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: Pebblespanker on June 28, 2013, 09:58:55 am
Excellent  news and a step in the right direction  :2thumbsup: a mate also advised that there is little profit to be made in growing this type of conifer these days, low quality softwood apparently

Out of interest does anyone know if there are any boulders hidden in there??
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 28, 2013, 10:02:25 am
Ssssh!
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: lagerstarfish on June 28, 2013, 11:54:23 am
will they be installing toilets at Burb Bridge to compensate for the main function of the plantation?
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 28, 2013, 12:22:36 pm
Ironically, the due to the CHSW regulations they will have to do something along those lines.
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: Snoops on June 28, 2013, 12:46:02 pm
I actually quite like that plantation. You can feel a bit hidden from everyone else, walking along the brook through the trees is nice change from the surrounding moorland. I know it may be better in 30 years time, but one of my favourite strolls with the kids will be gone now. :(
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: Dr T on June 28, 2013, 01:33:20 pm
Excellent  news and a step in the right direction

+1
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 28, 2013, 01:50:45 pm
I actually quite like that plantation. You can feel a bit hidden from everyone else, walking along the brook through the trees is nice change from the surrounding moorland. I know it may be better in 30 years time, but one of my favourite strolls with the kids will be gone now. :(

From what I've heard it will be a gradual process rather than a straight clear fell. The aim is to preserve the good aspects of the character as much as possible.
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: north_country_boy on June 28, 2013, 04:10:16 pm
From what I've heard it will be a gradual process rather than a straight clear fell. The aim is to preserve the good aspects of the character as much as possible.

Given the relatively small extent of forestry this won't take long to fell. I imagine once the lumberjacks are in (read diesel drinking tracked robots) it will be all gone in two weeks.
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: grumpycrumpy on July 01, 2013, 02:47:01 pm
Although it's good to see it going and the valley being allowed to go back to it's natural state I still like that it was planted  in the shape of the UK .......
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 05, 2014, 08:21:23 am
anyone know whether it is possible to park at the end of the track at night and walk down, or is there some sort of fence/gate locked to keep us out?

it was pretty cool watching the helicopters carrying logs out yesterday - didn't seem like Britain 
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: danm on November 05, 2014, 10:02:02 am
The other weekend the parking spot at the south end was closed off. I walked in from Fox House - just where you turn off the Green Drive for the Brick etc the path was fenced off, but it appeared to have fallen over. Not sure what it's like now though. It looks more as though they have put fences up to deter the casual explorer as opposed to the determined boulderer. :-)
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 05, 2014, 11:17:38 am
thanks Dan

I don't want to defy any access arrangements, just wondering if the parking and path was open for use - sounds like it's not
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: masonwoods101 on November 05, 2014, 11:52:07 am
The helicopter was cool to watch....
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: tomtom on November 05, 2014, 04:12:48 pm
No chopper this arvo...
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: cofe on November 05, 2014, 04:38:25 pm
The heli was there, but too windy to fly.
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: nai on November 05, 2014, 04:38:39 pm
too windy?
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: cofe on November 05, 2014, 04:39:26 pm
Beans for tea last night.
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: dave on November 05, 2014, 05:00:54 pm
Any idea why they went to all the trouble of building a road in if they're just using a bloody huey to get the trees out?
Title: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: tomtom on November 05, 2014, 05:10:59 pm
Where were you cofe? I was engaged with WSS from 1:30-2:30..
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: tomtom on November 05, 2014, 05:11:36 pm
The road was put in to wind up the MTB'ers ;)
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: danm on November 05, 2014, 05:15:04 pm
Not sure what the chopper is doing but there is a metric fuckton of nicely trimmed trunks stacked up where the track is fenced off. I'd assumed that the road down was built for hauling the timber up from the plantation area, and also to allow the forestry machines to get access.

I noticed the other day from Higgar East you can now see the little stream bed and valley which used to be hidden. I thought this was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: cofe on November 05, 2014, 05:18:49 pm
Trees on west side of brook are hand felled. The heli is ferrying these trees over to the other side for processing. Idea is to trash as little moorland as possible.
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: psychomansam on November 05, 2014, 05:20:56 pm
I used to quite like the effect of the plantation. It was amazing to drop in during high winds and be in total stillness. It added to the wonderful contrasts of running around the burbage valley. I'm mainly staying away for a while as it currently looks crap and just doesn't seem right with the invasion of monster machines.
But, from next year, it should start to be an interesting process watching the valley develop again. Quite looking forward to that. Am I getting old?
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: rich d on November 05, 2014, 06:59:17 pm
Used to love the get out of the wind, have a brew element to the plantation. Over the last few years though it seems to have turned into a place where people shit and don't bury it, and for people to have fires that they again don't clean up after. I'm still hopeful that there may be some new boulders in there waiting to be uncovered, with some 5s and 6s on them - as this will be my only chance to do a new problem at burbage. I even have the name in waiting.
Will be quite good to see a more native woodland develop over the next few decades, if I don't die too soon.
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: ardeer on November 05, 2014, 10:15:45 pm
 :jaw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8pRGGhke5o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8pRGGhke5o)
Title: Re: Removal of Burbage plantation
Post by: Fiend on November 06, 2014, 10:42:53 am
Cool stuff :)
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