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technical => photography => Topic started by: Tris on February 15, 2010, 12:04:31 pm

Title: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: Tris on February 15, 2010, 12:04:31 pm
This article was in the Metro this morning (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100214/ttc-all-in-one-camera-designed-e1d36ba.html)

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If successfully developed, it could turn separate video and still cameras into technological relics
Title: Re: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: dave on February 15, 2010, 12:14:49 pm
Seems pretty vague. Since this is already available buy limited by existing camera's hardware to processing only low-res shit, shurley its inevitable anyway as better hardware becomes cheaper/smaller?
Title: Re: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: cofe on February 15, 2010, 01:36:00 pm
I haven't fully read back, but the RED can do this at the moment. Esquire cover (http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2009/04/red-one-camera-shoots-esquire-magazine.html) was shot on video last year.

Obviously pricey, but can certainly see it becoming cheaper and more available as the years roll on.
Title: Re: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: Tris on February 15, 2010, 01:59:31 pm
It is pretty vague, I'm wondering what kind of media will be needed to capture decent information (ie 10 megapixel and above)? What with high end DSLR's capturing around 9fps max (in still photo mode) and the frame rate of decent video being 60 fps....

The will need some pretty fast media or a superfast new compression method to get full size images from the sensor..

Cofe - what size image does the RED produce, that sounds interesting?
Title: Re: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: cofe on February 15, 2010, 02:53:54 pm
http://www.red.com/cameras/ (http://www.red.com/cameras/)

<Caveat: haven't re-read all the tech bumph properly> 12mp I think. More than enough for most applications. They're also 12bit RAW files too so pretty versatile. Be great to fast forward 5 years and see where things are at then.

V. pricey though, hence the popularity of 5Ds and the like, even with pros.
Title: Re: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: Tris on February 15, 2010, 03:05:45 pm
The RED is well impressive with a resolution of 4520 X 2540 (30fps). Have any 5d/7d video stills been used on a magazine cover? Aren't they 720p (1280x720)?
Title: Re: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: Tris on February 15, 2010, 03:12:18 pm
Just checked and they both do 1080p...is this enough for a magazine cover?
Title: Re: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: cofe on February 15, 2010, 03:18:58 pm
Not even close. Well maybe for Reader's Digest, Hamster edition.

That's the difference between the two; they're both capable of stills/video from the same unit, but the RED shoots both simultaneously, not one or the other.
Title: Re: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: Tris on February 15, 2010, 04:20:58 pm
Not even close. Well maybe for Reader's Digest, Hamster edition.
:lol: just looked at the RED store.. $4500 for the 128 GB SSD drive  8)
Title: Re: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: lagerstarfish on February 15, 2010, 09:04:55 pm
I can't wait for the release of the multiple frame bracketing RED - shoots 5 versions of each frame at different exposures so we can watch glorious HDR ultra high def video.


I might have dreamt all this.

In my dream the camera user can decide how big a sensor they want to use and thereby have additional control over depth of field - shrinking the sensor will allow a deeper DOF so that the background will show amazing detail when shooting in HDR mode.
Title: Re: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: Jim on February 15, 2010, 11:55:51 pm
http://www.red.com/cameras/ (http://www.red.com/cameras/)
fuck it, i'll have 2 please
Title: Re: All-in-one camera, the future?
Post by: DubDom on April 28, 2010, 02:42:42 pm
Red weighs 50lbs, takes 2minutes to boot up, sure it shoots 4k raw, which takes many hours to transcode, very definately not an all on one. Red scarlet looks interesting though and there are rumblings of a raw shooting dslr in the future.
The dslrs have different standards for their movie resolution versus still resolution - 5d is more than you'll ever need unless you're planning to print your home movies to 35mm for cinema release, or installing a 4k projector at home. The next big thing for the consumer will be 3d.
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