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the shizzle => news => Topic started by: Andy Harris on May 17, 2008, 12:11:51 pm
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It's that time of year ladies and gents.
I'm calling the lime :dance1: :dance1:
but...., I'm going to make a retrospective call back to last Wednesday. I should have seen it at the time but my mind was clouded. Whilst Staminband went down 1st go of the season there was no one to belay me on Rooster Booster and therefore the incomplete customary sends were clouding the cosmic waves. Apologies for this.
enoy it whilst it lasts and here's to months of cool breezy weather and PB's :beer2:
ps. I'm sat here at the mac scanning in photos of old for our wedding next week, doing the washing and about to walk the dog, looking out at perfect breezy weather!
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;D :dance1:
Getting a car on monday, weather's good, no more exams, limestone's been called... To quote a certain psyched italian - YES YES FUCKING YES
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but...., I'm going to make a retrospective call back to last Wednesday.
One would bloody well hope so too. It's obviously a black art and all but even last Wednesday would seem a bit on the late side.
Well, I'm off to the mountain trad then.... :whistle:
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we need to all chip in and buy the lad a massive brass horn like gimli blows in lord of the rings for the calling in of the lime
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Well, I'm off to the mountain trad then.... :whistle:
I might try and get excited about limestone this year but it will be the finest polished trad limestone the Peak can offer if it happens.
bluebrad
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massive brass horn like gimli blows in lord of the rings for the calling in of the lime
So gimli is the caller of the lime on middle earth then? i can see the resemblance...
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ah....
at last, tis the time for minus 10.....
:dance1:
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we need to all chip in and buy the lad a massive brass horn like gimli blows in lord of the rings for the calling in of the lime
Unnecessary fella... those who this applies to can feel when the lime's been called.... whether they really want to or not. This sadly even applies to punters like myself: I was in the Lakes this weekend and, rather than save all my grunt for the mighty Bowderstone, felt a perverse urge to visit Woodwell and Trowbarrow (Red Wall - it's like Minus10... with passing motocross bikers).
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we need to all chip in and buy the lad a massive brass horn like gimli blows in lord of the rings for the calling in of the lime
I'm off work the first half of next week and with my mind full of thoughts of Harris's dwarf horn I'm keen to get out on the lime. Anyone fancy a day down Chee Dale on Monday or Wednesday?
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Maybe keen for Cheedale weds, two tier ideally, i'll try post here on tues if so or pm you....
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Maybe keen for Cheedale weds, two tier ideally, i'll try post here on tues if so or pm you....
Excellent. Two Tier's good for me.
No one for tomorrow? I'll check tomorrow morning in case anyone's free before I start working the phones.
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fucking hell you leave the country for a weekend and the lime gets called. good effort Randy Harrington.
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Unnecessary fella... those who this applies to can feel when the lime's been called.... whether they really want to or not. This sadly even applies to punters like myself: I was in the Lakes this weekend and, rather than save all my grunt for the mighty Bowderstone, felt a perverse urge to visit Woodwell and Trowbarrow (Red Wall - it's like Minus10... with passing motocross bikers).
You reckon climbers across the country feel it? Depending on your commitment to the way of the lime, some stop what they are doing and let out an almighty howl, others feel less. I must admight I felt a slight twitch and a shiver up the spine as the cosmiverse realigned slightly, even though i was halfway up a mountain route in the middle of nowhere (well the Aardverikie Estate anyway).
Good luck with the wedding Mr Harris.
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;D
Hurrah. Must admit I feel slightly guilty that the customary routes were not possible as I told Mr Haggis I'd binned my old harness (and wanted to go to Rubicon) so was unavailable to belay on the retrospectively called Wednesday. If I'd realised the significance then I would have changed my plans, purchased a harness, DONE ANYTHING POSSIBLE to ensure the correct calling of the lime! ;)
Ah well. Here's to a top lime season. :beer1:
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You reckon climbers across the country feel it? Depending on your commitment to the way of the lime, some stop what they are doing and let out an almighty howl, others feel less. I must admight I felt a slight twitch and a shiver up the spine as the cosmiverse realigned slightly, even though i was halfway up a mountain route in the middle of nowhere (well the Aardverikie Estate anyway).
I felt it as a sick, sick, sinking feeling. My stomach plummeted like a sabotaged elevator. The Bowderstone itself seemed to give a convulsive shrug, as though the very fabric of the Universe had rejected me. I departed chastenned, like an unplugged electrical appliance, barely reaching my car before all power faded. The sun still shone, the birds still sang, but the world was a different, less friendly place. A glass ceiling had been placed on my ambitions: a barrier to fulfillment only perceptable to those who dare to strive.
The "calling" is a misnomer.... it is not the lime that sings a siren song. The lime remains silent, indifferent whilst all other rock types scream in their sunbaked agony... geology itself mournes the summer!
Still, not all bad: Shallow Grave was a cracking problem. God I love vertical crimping.
So, here's to a season of trad pitches that go on forever with sustained moves from base to belay. The joy of placing as many nuts as you can carry with the self-satisfied ethical glow of having placed no cams. Getting pumped as you realise that threads are invariably far more trouble than they're worth. Exhausted internal debates about the strength of bent, rusted pitons: the triumph of hope over metallurgy ("well, they'll slow me down, and that looks like a jug up there"). Shame-faced conversations about the effect of vegetation on technical grades. The occassional hold falling off to keep your belayer awake ("what do you mean you forgot your helmet....!?").
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What was I doing spending all weekend at Cratcliffe and Earl for then?
I've obviously got Grit Lag.
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Still no midges and reasonable temps on the grit, the Vanwad had another go at Brad Pit last night. Two single attempts seperated by six years, both times topping out. Not a bad record.
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What was I doing spending all weekend at Cratcliffe and Earl for then?
I've obviously got Grit Lag.
Serps in your case the call was suppressed by a flood of minx induced hormones. You know how these affect you (sweaty palms, thin skin and a sudden desire to go bouldering despite strong protestations to the contrary).
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May last year, double figure temps in March this year - lots of people making an early start to the season and I'm already hearing people talking about the lime. Rubicon is dry, the Tor mostly so - could this be it? Limestone open season already?
Its not my job to say so. That responsibility falls to the Harris, and he's pregnant - which I hope will not distract him from his duties.
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;D
Is the place that must not be mentioned dry? Exploratory training starts again today to see how my injured finger holds up..........
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went to a place that cannot be mentioned yesterday and i'd say it would be climbable today. just condensation on certain parts barely any seepage.
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May last year, double figure temps in March this year - lots of people making an early start to the season and I'm already hearing people talking about the lime. Rubicon is dry, the Tor mostly so - could this be it? Limestone open season already?
Its not my job to say so. That responsibility falls to the Harris, and he's pregnant - which I hope will not distract him from his duties.
this is just the early bird pre-season warmup, a bit like when shops open an hour early for browsing time but the tills aren't actually on while 10am.
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I've never understood that "wandering about looking at shit when the tills aren't open" thing. Why the fuck would you want to spend longer in Meadowhell or suchlike than you have to? Get in, buy stuff, get the fuck out, go to the pub.
Nice one Ben.
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Its a woman thing... Same rule applies to climbing, all the real men are still on the grit!
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The limestone season never ends in Wales, although we don't have any grit (really gutted about that BTW).
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Quality avatar there Doylo. I sincerely hope you are going to invest in some lime green shorts for when you get to the redpointing stage.....
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Quality avatar there Doylo. I sincerely hope you are going to invest in some lime green shorts for when you get to the redpointing stage.....
Ha ha, well i've had the mom dad gay avatar for years, needed a change. Something tells me that lime green shorts might be quite hard to get hold of in 2020 Jasp! ;)
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Ah I've read your blog and foresee the siege being shorter than 11 years mate.
I actually owned the original shorts for a while. They were pinned up on our board. If only I hadn't lost them in one house move or another!
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Ah I've read your blog and foresee the siege being shorter than 11 years mate.
I actually owned the original shorts for a while. They were pinned up on our board. If only I hadn't lost them in one house move or another!
Shit, i would have paid big bucks for those!
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March and still not managed to get time to gte to Malham....livid. :'(
Jerry is now one step closer Doylo...... ;)
http://www.destira.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=DS&Category_Code=SS&ViewAll=Yes (http://www.destira.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=DS&Category_Code=SS&ViewAll=Yes)
"or errands before and after the gym" WTF!!!?
(Start a a new retro trend, it might lead to a UK climbing scene hot pant frenzy...haha)
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/33ualab.jpg)
Amazing, i'm getting some! Anyone know where i can get some lazers?
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Maybe it should be made mandatory that the caller of the Lime has to do Staminaband wearing a pair of those beauties.....
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Awesome.
Doylo, you have mail. :)
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Anyone know where i can get some lazers?
Adam Wainwright had and maybe still has a mother lode of unused lasers.
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March and still not managed to get time to gte to Malham....livid. :'(
Pity, it was pretty mint today. Not to mention rather busy. Looks like the lime has been called at the Cove.
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Has anyone called the lime in Scotland?
We drove right past the solitary bastion of limestone greatness today and I did feel a certain, gravitational urge to divert our path the way of the great white calcite.
Were we mad :alky: :shrug: :spank:
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Went for a walk with the family yesterday and drove past The Tor which looked mostly dry. Assume Powerband and other stuff on the RHS was dry as it was rammed.
Later stopped off at Crag X to have a look and despite the odd wet streak most stuff there was dry and doable.
It was warm (12ish degrees) but with a bit of a breeze............
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Has anyone called the lime in Scotland?
We drove right past the solitary bastion of limestone greatness today and I did feel a certain, gravitational urge to divert our path the way of the great white calcite.
Was that the "solitary" bastion at at Limekilns, Inchnadamph or Smoo cave? (I think there are others).
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:oops: My knowledge of Scottish Lime is clearly substandard :rtfm:
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Indeed. What you get for living in the buckfast belt. Anyway, I reckon Limekilns would have been green, slippery and crap. Even in midsummer it's 2 of the 3.
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was minto at crag x yesterday between the water streaks - should be prime conditions by the end of the week if it stays dry, woohoo.
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Going in a few hours........... ;D
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May last year, double figure temps in March this year - lots of people making an early start to the season and I'm already hearing people talking about the lime. Rubicon is dry, the Tor mostly so - could this be it? Limestone open season already?
One's initial reaction is "stop being a gaylord with this premature lime nonsense and get back on Lowrider"....
....but having felt grit recently, I think you guys are right. There might be more cold snaps but the lime is in the air. Even I feel the urge - purely as training for Easy Trad(tm) of course.
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I reckon Limekilns would have been green, slippery and crap. Even in midsummer it's 2 of the 3.
It's been in alright nick the last few weeks, apparently, haven't been to check myself.
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I reckon Limekilns would have been green, slippery and crap. Even in midsummer it's 2 of the 3.
It's been in alright nick the last few weeks, apparently, haven't been to check myself.
By alright nick do you mean not green, just the other two? :)
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Don't diss Limekilns >:( . Even though 90% of UK inland limestone is toss, it's definitely in the other 10%.
I will concede some bits may occasionally be slippery though.
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I (personally) think it's shite. Worst limestone crag I have ever been to.
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You need to be dragged down to the tor....
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Wash your mouth out Fiend.
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Where is Harris?! :shrug:
It's 16 degrees outside, the sun is blazing down and there is a lovely cooling breeze.
Call it man! It must be time. ;D
I'm off to Rubicon and Crag X shortly and if they're all dry then that seals it..........
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I think now would be a recklessly early call. there's no sense in calling it when people who can finish work as early as 4 still don't have anough time to get to the tor and get a session in by daylight. won't somebody please think of the children.
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It's them I'm appealing on behalf of.
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I'm not convinced it should really be called yet either, the tor is still wet and powerband impossible (apparently). As you know, when harris retro flashes staminaband, the lime is officially called. And its wet, so thats not yet.
What we are experiencing Jas, is the devotees pre season friendly. To be honest, I think we should keep it to ourselves. There will come a time this summer when you and I are sat beneath kudos wall wishing we'd shut the fuck up about the lime because we will be vying with 16 yr olds with sweaty hands leaving black paw prints on our holds.
And, its only March, it seems to go sunny for a few weeks now and then rain all april. Perhaps the arrival of Harris junior (can it be called anything other than Ben?) will signal open season? and a new standard in crimping? (one can only hope so)
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Longer term forecast is for northerly winds to bring colder conditions back for the start of next week. Winter's last gasp and a last chance for those grit projects?
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Only a fool would call the lime before the equinox. But then with peak lime we're dealing with fools, lets face it. Rest assured I'm waiting to pour scorn on any call which proves to be premature.
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Loth, the conditions druid hath speaketh
(http://www.thelensflare.com/large/druid_370.jpg)
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Loth, the conditionth druidth hath speaketh
You can't just add "th" to the end of all your words and hope to get away with it. You aren't in Spain now.
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eth eth eth eth eth chris waddle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJh0pDMnL8M)
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If only Marcos knew how to use a computer - he'd show all y'all punks.
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If only Marcoth knew how to useth a computer - he'd show all y'all punkth.
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hold your horses youths (and not so). good things come to those who wait.
Roy and I have just spent a baltic morning at Burbage south clothed in thermals & winter gear. It was minty and some good stuff went down.
I may venture forth to the tor on monday .....
and who says i can't do staminaband in the wet ;)
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http://dobbinwondermule.blogspot.com/2009/04/lime-caller.html (http://dobbinwondermule.blogspot.com/2009/04/lime-caller.html)
:)
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:o
Should have given some advice on how much Johnny Brown's well-meaning meddling should be heeded...
I think as the climate gets more fucked up and the seasons more interchangable, the calling of the lime becomes harder and harder. I hope dob is up to the task.
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I wonder if there will be an elaborate handover ceremony with complicated protocol (the toothbrush and bartowel much be passed from the left hand of the outgoing imcumbent over the right shoulder....), or if mr harris will regenerate into dobbin like doctor who, complete with sound effects of quickdraws being rubbed up and down a harp supplied by the BBC radiophonic workshop.
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Doesn't Dobbin/Harris incarnate now have to bury Johnny Brown in a bark and moss casket underneath the Buckstone until October ?
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Dobbin/Harris incarnate
Would this be like a crab/donkey hybrid? A donkey that walks sideways? Or just a really basic crab?
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2due8ah.png)
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Doesn't Dobbin/Harris incarnate now have to bury Johnny Brown in a bark and moss casket underneath the Buckstone until October ?
nah he just gets stuck in the airing cupboard in a carboard box full of shredded newspaper like the blue peter tortoise.
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I wonder if there will be an elaborate handover ceremony with complicated protocol (the toothbrush and bartowel much be passed from the left hand of the outgoing imcumbent over the right shoulder....), or if mr harris will regenerate into dobbin like doctor who, complete with sound effects of quickdraws being rubbed up and down a harp supplied by the BBC radiophonic workshop.
Remember, this is only a temporary handing over (to my knowledge - maybe I will do so well he wont want it back) (or maybe for another reason - more on that in a moment) so the usual passing of the lime callers robes ceremony has been officially veteod by the lime council (Zippy and Sharples). I have been the recipient of a proud honour, the weight of which I now bear on my shoulders. Its heavy, but I am proud to be burdened with such an important task, and rest assured, I am duly humbled at the magnitude of the task which stands before me. But with the knowledge passed from Andy I shall do my best (goddammit).
Dave Cheekbones Mason (breaker of a thousand hearts) and I inspected the tor just yesterday. It wasnt far off, but I have been warned against making any false call. Whilst its nearly there, it still holds out for now, and with this most recent rain, perhaps it will get worse before it gets better. Rest assured Tor Fans, I shall not shirk in my duties. The call will come in due time...
Or will it.... I am delighted to report that Crabmaster Harris, master of the minging crimp and purveyor of the most dubious of musical delights is the proud father of a baby daughter, as at early o clock this morning. Shiv and baby Harris are fine, 2.5kg apparently (whats that in pounds?). Anyway, particularly well done to Shiv, but also to the Haggis and welcome to the baby. But perhaps this means calling duties have been passed over prematurely? One certainly hopes not. I do feel something of a charlatan making the call - I have nothing of the pedigree of the Harris, but am honoured to have been so recognised. Only time and seepage will tell.
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It's quite simple Dob: just retroflash Staminaband and Rooster Booster in a sesh, then we're all go. I await your anouncement eagerly.
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I dragged my sorry carcass across lime today - Dylan put the idea in my head really, but Mr Twotone collaborated.
I enjoyed it.
I find myself strangely motivated for more.
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I have been the recipient of a proud honour, the weight of which I now bear on my shoulders. Its heavy, but I am proud to be burdened with such an important task, and rest assured, I am duly humbled at the magnitude of the task which stands before me.
Is this like being a bearer of The Ring? It changes you - do not become Gollum, use the pwer with wisdom.
Congratualtions to Mr Harris. Maybe a true heir of the calling has been born.
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I dragged my sorry carcass across lime today - Dylan put the idea in my head really, but Mr Twotone collaborated.
I enjoyed it.
I find myself strangely motivated for more.
YYFY! *faints*
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I sincerely hope it was Stoney, Staden, or Chee Tor..............
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Lagers text me yesterday to see if I could accompany him................TO RUBICON!! Unfortunately I couldn't but I fully expected him to have hated it and sworn never to touch the lime again. The scales have been removed from his eyes! Let lime joy be universally embraced and JB placed in his tortoise box.
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I dragged my sorry carcass across lime today - Dylan put the idea in my head really, but Mr Twotone collaborated.
I enjoyed it.
I find myself strangely motivated for more.
and this morning I remain uninjured (physically) :thumbsup:
I should also add that Mrs Starfish allowed my crash pads in the house last night - which is proof of how reasonable the mud conditions were.
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I think its gonna be a long, long time before Dobbin gets me in that box. Harris picked up a few tricks over the years but he never had a easy time of it.
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a line of tangfastics leading across the plantation floor, then he simply pulls the string to drop the door when you're in? cunning, but humane.
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I thought he went for the BA Baraccus / drink this glass of milk approach.
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He usually posed as a child. What threw me was the child got younger every year.
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(http://www.britsuperstore.com/acatalog/Roses_Lime_Juice_Cordial_1_Ltr.jpg)
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...Let lime joy be universally embraced and JB placed in his tortoise box.
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I can confirm that a great session was had - my first session of peak limestone bouldering in over 10 years of climbing, I'd managed to avoid it until last night but I really enjoyed it!
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my first session of peak limestone bouldering in over 10 years of climbing, I'd managed to avoid it until last night but I really enjoyed it!
http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/ (http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/)
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You're swimming against an irreversible tide cofe. ;D
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maybe the tide will prevent more dead fish deposits.
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i know i know, but i'm not going out* without a fight.
(* was going to type 'down' here, but that would have handed someone a gag on a silver platter.)
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you damn right.
peak limestone is a lot like Dr Pepper - people are afraid to try it cos they're worried they might actually like it. Go on, whats the worst that can happen?
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Rotted teeth, the shakes, nervous twitches, loss of coordination, profuse sweating, messed up sleep patterns...
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exactly, although there are some downsides to it too.
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A lifelong curse, judging by Paul B?
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That was contracted by selling his soul to climb 8B. On Grit!
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That was contracted by selling his soul to climb 8B. On Grit!
Thank goodness for that - I was worried for a second there.
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Dear Diedre,
I have noticed that since yesterday's brush with the lime, I have an increased interest in looking at men's bottoms and have developed a tendency to exaggerate my facial expressions and intersperse my speech with phrases of polari; is this a normal consequence?
Yours mincingly,
Lagers
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Dear Lagers
The only recommended treatment for this condition is to purchase a large truck and pickaxe.then when you next visit the lime hack away it with your pick.when you have enough lime to fill your truck,take it home to Sheffield and use it to fill all those potholes in the roads.As well as curing your condition it will save lots of wear and tear on your new bike.
All the best
Diedre
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Dear Diedre,
I have already filled in most of the potholes on my route to work using bones harvested from incompetent social care workers (took me almost a whole hour to meet enough suitable candidates). My problem now is trying to find a pick in a colour that matches my other accessories. The one's in Wickes are just soooo DRAB. Any suggestions on where to get one in pastel green or blue?
Thank you darling
Mwah
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Dear lagers
You've got it the wrong way round poor lamb. The lime is for basic macho manliness and power whereas the grit is the realm of sensitive gay finesse and foot faggotry.
I can only imagine that it's the exposure to such a masculine hetero environment that's uncovered your suppressed grit gayness.
I'd recommend further sessions of lime bouldering, driving around in a big truck, singing Eye Of The Tiger and staying away from Joe Picalli. You'll soon be back to normal lovey.
Russell Grant
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staying away from Joe Picalli
:'(
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Dear Diedre,
I have already filled in most of the potholes on my route to work using bones harvested from incompetent social care workers (took me almost a whole hour to meet enough suitable candidates). My problem now is trying to find a pick in a colour that matches my other accessories. The one's in Wickes are just soooo DRAB. Any suggestions on where to get one in pastel green or blue?
Thank you darling
Mwah
Dear Lagers
The curse of incompetent social care workers.I'm shocked to find this has spread from East Yorkshire into South yorkshire.I'm in agreement that burying them is the only answer.As for pastel picks I can recommend your local Laura Ashley store they have a good range of lime destroying equipment.I would always avoid piccalilli where ever possible and stick to branston or gherkins.
Yours in the kitchen.
Delilah Smith
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It is recorder in the lore of The Caller that if a child were to be born at the Tor and that child bore the mark “HFF” (Hands for Feet) on their crown that they would be the 2nd coming (of Moffatt). The child would inherit the finest traits of those few that have given to the Tor without compromise. Namely but not exclusively:
the youthful keenness of Sharples
the ability to find a new line on any old bit of rock (Pretty)
the ego of Moffatt
the unrequited love & devotion to the Pinches Wall (Harris)
the staticness of Smith
the talent of finding the hardest possible sequence (Moon)
the ruthlessness to down grade all new routes (Barker & Welford)
the facial hair of Fawcett (a bit unfortunate if it's a lass)
the bat hanging magnificence of McClure
If a child were to be conceived at the Tor then that would just be a bit wrong and both parties should be ashamed of theirselves.
As for pulling a sword from my cleft or blowing my horn, i don't know whether to be flattered or disgusted :-\
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DOB stop getting scared soloing sweaty severes, unleash your sword and cut through all the ambiguity and despair. I've still got sunburn from North Wales on the weekend, the grit is radianting heat and making me feel ill when I'm near it, surely the calling is calling to you??
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That was a one off. I can let you in to a secret, I will attempt an inspection tomorrow eve. Rest assured if it is time the call will be made.
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It is recorder in the lore of The Caller that if a child were to be born at the Tor and that child bore the mark “HFF” (Hands for Feet) on their crown that they would be the 2nd coming (of Moffatt). The child would inherit the finest traits of those few that have given to the Tor without compromise. Namely but not exclusively:
the youthful keenness of Sharples
the ability to find a new line on any old bit of rock (Pretty)
the ego of Moffatt
the unrequited love & devotion to the Pinches Wall (Harris)
the staticness of Smith
the talent of finding the hardest possible sequence (Moon)
the ruthlessness to down grade all new routes (Barker & Welford)
the facial hair of Fawcett (a bit unfortunate if it's a lass)
the bat hanging magnificence of McClure
Is Johnathon's reputed lapping of Hubble not list worthy!?
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on a top rope. what do you think?
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The child would inherit the finest traits of those few that have given to the Tor without compromise.
the barnet of Gaskins?
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Dear Deidre,
Having read many of these posts - I have a dirty confession... I have never bouldered on Limestone - except at Wetherby (does that count? or is it the equivalent of a quick fumble..).
If I were to think about having a try, where would be the best place for my indoctrination virginity loosing introduction, given my normal Grit bouldering is around the high 6's and low 7's?
Yours nervously
T
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New Zealand.
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New Zealand on the night of the fullmoon
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unless, like some wags suggest, you can drive to castle hill after work, I suggest you look closer to home. crags like rubicon and raven tor have good problems in the mid-6 to low 7s, but don't go expecting anything to give up without a fight, its not like that. most of these crags reward persistence and most people who just turn up just once and expect it to be like any other bouldering will go away empty handed. here's a few problems to look at:
Tor:
finish section of bens roof ("too hard for mark leach") about 6cish
left had version of the above - similar grade
Chimes start - 6b+ish?
weedkiller traverse - 7b
bashers problem - 7a/+
Little Extra start - 6c+ish
Boot Boys start - 6cish
rattle& hump start - 7a+ish
Wild In Me start - 6cish, bit harder from sitter
Super High Intensity start - 6cish
Saline Drip - 7aish
Rubicon:
top warmup traverse - 6a+
middle warmup traverse - 6b+
low warmup traverse - 6c+
Bank's undercut problem - 7a+
bigger tail - 7a+
kudos traverse 7b
millers tale 6cish
miller tale sitter 6c+ish
whitebait start 7a
dragonflight traverse 6bish
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crags like rubicon and raven tor have good problems in the mid-6 to low 7s
I climb similar grades on grit and have just started dipping my toe in the lime recently, so far I've had more success at Rubicon than Raven Tor.
don't go expecting anything to give up without a fight, its not like that.
Quite relieved to hear this, I thought I was just being shit.
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Yeah, every move you have to battle against your rapidly waning motivation. Not only that, its cumulative within the session. I usually last about four goes before getting distracted by something more interesting, like staring at some tarmac for instance.
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Dammit Dobbin get him into the fucking box for God's sake!
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Yeah, every move you have to battle against your rapidly waning motivation. Not only that, its cumulative within the session. I usually last about four goes before getting distracted by something more interesting, like staring at some tarmac for instance.
that sounds like quitters talk to me.
i recon you might get more out of it if you experiment with climbing in rockshoes rather than trainers though...
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Yeah, every move you have to battle against your rapidly waning motivation. Not only that, its cumulative within the session. I usually last about four goes before getting distracted by something more interesting, like staring at some tarmac for instance.
::) Powerband/staminaband is a worthwhile objective for the tradster who doesn't like pulling down too hard on nasty broken crimps.
Or wot about highballing Pump up the Power or Caviar?
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one day, one day i will touch the lime.
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Powerband/staminaband is a worthwhile objective for the tradster who doesn't like pulling down too hard on nasty broken crimps.
Your definition of worthwhile is clearly different to mine.
Or wot about highballing Pump up the Power or Caviar?
A) I can't do the moves on either and, B) I don't consider a highball to be something that maroons you on a hold that has to be abseiled off.
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i've got to agree with the showpony on this one, you'd have to be an idiot or quentin fisher to try and highball caviar. PUTP is fair game though.
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How would you get down? Are you Dave Thomas? I suppose you could do some death defying grass traverse to get off the right hand side but fun and safe are not words I would associate with such an exercise.
Rest assured idle watcher of these pages, that Johnny Brown only speaks so ill of that which is white because of a remarkable metamorphosis he undergoes when he arrives at either crag. The venerable Mr Johnny Brown, Sentinel of Stanage and Plantation Penetrator becomes Ian Dawes. Ian is not like Johnny. He doesnt climb well, and is oft found in the summer months gazing longingly at car parks, roads and other tarmaced areas.
For many years the caller of the lime has attempted to place him in protective packaging until the brown rocks are in season again and for many years the caller has found better things to do (climbing for instance). This situation continues unresolved until the end of days.
As a once great man said : "May till september - white rocks remember"
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i've got to agree with the showpony on this one, you'd have to be an idiot or quentin fisher to try and highball caviar. PUTP is fair game though.
:agree:
I can still remember the sound of Quent hitting the deck from a silly height on an attempt to solo Caviar. It was like a truck hitting a wall.
However.......
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i've got to agree with the showpony on this one, you'd have to be an idiot or quentin fisher to try and highball caviar.
:agree:
Jeez, what a bunch of wimps! It's only 3 minutes with a barrow load of pads from your car...............
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why carry a rope when you can take 20 pads eh!
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And there speaks the spirit of the trad!
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i've got to agree with the showpony on this one, you'd have to be an idiot or quentin fisher to try and highball caviar. PUTP is fair game though.
I think this is most peoples reaction.... However I was at Rubicon at the end of March an there was a bloke there doing exactly this! He was getting to just below the jugs before coming off onto his single pad with only his girlfriend spotting/taking pictures. 10 minutes later he was trying Piranah above 1 pad and fell off twice from the move to the break! :jaw:
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what was he planning to do for the top half of the route though, which i can assure you ain't trivial?
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you'd have to be an idiot to fail on the top of Caviar. ;D
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what was he planning to do for the top half of the route though, which i can assure you ain't trivial?
No idea for Caviar, posibly just jump seeing as though he seemed to have legs of steel? For Piranha his plan was to traverse right to the top of White Bait reverse down a couple of moves and jump onto his mat which he'd get his girlfriend to drag across.
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yeah pirhana is straightforward, i was on about caviar.
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what was he planning to do for the top half of the route though, which i can assure you ain't trivial?
;D Oh it is ;)
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trivial it is. High it is. Solo i would not.
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To be fair I have highballed Piranha, and then come down the tree to the left. Caviar would be a very different proposition though as its about six sport grades harder. And higher. And there isn't a tree to get down.
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As a once great man said : "May till september - white rocks remember"
Wyclef Jean?
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That was gone till november wasn't it?
Anyway
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Not wishing to throw more confusion into the mix, but I was up at Stanage on Weds and the nick was good - warm but not too bad, and a very pleasant cooling breeze to top it off.
JB might be safe from his tortoise box for a touch longer at this rate...
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Good nick last night an' all. Plus rain forecast for the weekend...
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Plus rain forecast for the weekend...
...so you'll be heading to ever-dry crags like Rubicon, The Tor, etc :thumbsup:
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Hah! You think I'd fall for that! That fool Dobbin will be there with that damn box. Oh no, I'll be taking well-earned rest day, it hasn't rained in a fortnight and grit can be hard on the skin doncha know?
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*cough*
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must have been a secret Twitter announcement
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yeah yeah allright! the blog gets it first OK?
I am calling the LIME!
Its tempting to make a retrospective call dated back to the 22nd April, as by some parties it will be claimed that this call is late. Let us recall the wise words of the Harris which stated that "truly the grit must be a thing of the past" before the call is made (and not to "be bullied by the keenness of youth for the call"). Plus, I felt like I climbed well last night : "climb like a legend on the day of the call". My bad finger is still bad, but it felt less so, and I breezed through the stamina band start like in days of old. Now here is another troubling matter on the mind of this years lime caller : I have never done Staminaband or Rooster booster (which it is traditional the lime caller retro flash for the season to open), but it would be in keeping with the spirit of the times to simply claim an unwitnessed ascent wouldnt it?
No of course not! the lime caller's role is one of paramount importance, and I shall endeavour to do my duties whilst upholding the high standards of integrity to which we should all aspire. I flashed Staminaband START and fell off crossing through on Powerband. I had a couple of laps to the end of powerband but the last move hurt my finger so I stepped off. Actually, I felt so good on these that this could actually be the year I finally do do Staminaband. Watch this space. Its a good summer project.
So thats it - the season is officially open. Yes, we have all been going for months but thats not the point - those have been pre season friendly sessions. My airing cupboard is waiting JB...
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I flashed Staminaband START and fell off crossing through on Powerband.
ditto. the call is a good one.
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Migrate north JB, think outside the box. Fucking baltic here this morning, howling winds and clear blue skies.
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So thats it - the season is officially open. Yes, we have all been going for months but thats not the point - those have been pre season friendly sessions.
TBH last night was my first lime session since an unlikely Press in early January. Fair call I say.
Though I'll be out on the grit tonight
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A panicked late call methinks. Finally a run of cold weather (I had four layers on at Running Hill on sunday, and still cold!) and then a bucketload of rain that will work its way through to soak the filthy lime for the weekend. No need to go north for a long while yet.
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A fine call I think - just after my final grit weekend of the season.. although I've been enjoying the delights of stoney and the like since Feb :thumbsup:
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A panicked late call methinks. Finally a run of cold weather (I had four layers on at Running Hill on sunday, and still cold!) and then a bucketload of rain that will work its way through to soak the filthy lime for the weekend. No need to go north for a long while yet.
Did someone say something just then?
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Was windy last night....but a warm wind...
I think it has to be called. Once the current showery weather settles down it will be obvious.
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"truly the grit must be a thing of the past"
Surely this means that the lime can never be called
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aren't you supposed to be on holiday ken?
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can't sit in the sun all day kes
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A panicked late call methinks. Finally a run of cold weather (I had four layers on at Running Hill on sunday, and still cold!) and then a bucketload of rain that will work its way through to soak the filthy lime for the weekend. No need to go north for a long while yet.
get in your box
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Even I touched the Lime today, so it must be time.
In conclusion, I can still do Jericho Road, so Lime season is now officially over for me and its back to the grit, thank god.....
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Whilst I didn't have access to the tinter I felt a disturbance in the Fawcett and new the call had been made. Infact at this precise moment my daughter Amelie let rip a huge fart spraying Siobhan & her sister in semi-digested breast milk. At first she had a look of shock on her face and then she knew something important had happened. The Fawcett is indeed strong in this one.
Twas a good call and even though the pressure was on Dobbin did not waver.
Be gone Johnny Brown back to your foul brown stuff & Bishton, leave the white stuff alone.
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disgusting brown stuff
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A new year, a new coalition government, a new lime season?
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These lime callers are a bunch of amateurs. Even I was down Cheedale yesterday.
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that may be so mr brown but was it a league visit or just a pre season friendly?
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4th time this month. Dobbin has dropped the ball. And then tripped over it. Turns out the ball was an egg, and now its all over his face.
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The seasons over, its too hot. Roll on September ;D
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I have been wondering this for a few weeks. Doblogegg has let the side down with this one!!
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And what do eggs and hot weather make? sticky face actually.
Well, I admit it - the call should have been made by now, and honour was my undoing. Nay, should I trend on the toes of the crimpmaster... Nay should I eschew with time honored protocol and make a call without being granted the authority to do so.
I was fortunate last year to be given the opportunity of a lifetime and a chance to act above my station, because to be honest fellows - my credentials are not of the standard of the limecaller, and I felt something of a fraud making such an important decision, but lo, and it has been called, and by none other than the technique laden cadfael lookalike - enemy of the lime himself! forsooth! for whom will place you in your box now Johnny Brown?
<the cupboard awaiteth>
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The shame. A penance of a dozen and one expeditions to moorland grit and the high plateaux would be suitable.
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The seasons over, its too hot. Roll on September ;D
Pah. Perfect Goredale weather today, warm, shady with a nice breeze. Ya just got to know where to go ;D
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The seasons over, its too hot. Roll on September ;D
Pah. Perfect Goredale weather today, warm, shady with a nice breeze. Ya just got to know where to go ;D
fluke more like ;)
being the consummate pro i rested knowing that it's gonna cool down tomorrow
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Sorry have I just read that JB's called the lime? Or am I still pissed? :alky:
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Conditions down in the crypt on the plastic were not too bad yesterday. Resting today for Tuesday's drop in temps!
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I went to the Tor yesterday. It was totally dry.
With last years shame ringing in my ears, and with the Gritstone Tortoise now married and on his way to California, I feel the time is ripe :
I AM CALLING THE LIME!
Hope crabmaster Harris isnt mortally wounded by my call, and that he doesnt feel its unjustifiably early. Of course, as deputy caller, I will bow to his mighty sword should it swing its pink girth in my direction.
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Bloody hell that was slick. Dobegg has atoned for the mistakes of the past.
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Bloody hell that was slick. Dobegg has atoned for the mistakes of the past.
Does that mean its time to change your signature?
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what bonjoy said.
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What cofe said about what bonjoy said.
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a bout of unseasonaly hot weather and you call the lime?
"Much to learn you have"
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Listen captain negative - the calling of the lime is based on so much more than simple current weather conditions, oh yes - a ripple has been detected in the fawcett, the time is now! the Lime is here!
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I have to say as an elder statesman still hanging his hat on past glories on the fabled polished white stuff...
good call, even I was in chee tor on sunday......
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"... in chee tor"? You should have avoided the chimney's mate
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Bugger that for a bunch of bananas! I'm still ticking off old projects on the grit!
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Bugger that for a bunch of bananas! I'm still ticking off old projects on the grit!
Fuck old projects I am going to buy the new Yorkshire guide and discover new projects!
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Im gonna call the moorland grit. Dry early, no midgies yet and shady cool temps make for good friction. Problem is all my mates have been called by the lime already!
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Word to that Nan. Its time to hit the chew valley for the next month or so. Standing stones for Ocean Wall tonight, Wimberry for Pinball Wizard on Sunday. :w00t:
The lime can wait till May
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Pm me if you are short of someone to climb with on the weekend well keen for wimberry and ravenstones
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Cool, I'll check where we're off and PM ya. Tonights been cancelled (someones managed to get whiplash, drivings a dangerous sport) so off to Rokt instead :(
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Well we're over in Font for a family holiday and I'm falling off the top of a problem called Elvis at Isatis repeatedly. I'm at the point of exhaustion, a fine font rash on my right forearm, the croatians have left with their 5 pads and it's just me, a pad and no one else. Go back to the car and let the family know "just 1 more go" so we can get back for some tea. Get through the bottom bit to the same point I've been flailing on for an hour, there's a chill in the forest, and bam I get a spike of energy, press out that sloper, belly on and i've topped out. A classic disturbance in the Fawcett and as i suspected it's been called. Fine effort Dobbin and just what I needed to save the day. Hope to get out for celebratory lap of Staminaband in the not too distant....
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just do it.
it's called.... respect.
and, no... i wont be in no white clefts me... I know when to bow out...
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The lime did indeed look good tonight from my vantage point at Curbar. Top off beanie on.
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While the Lime may have been called, the Grits certainly not gone... Almscliff was in great condition last night...
One little warm spell and everyone gets excited....
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One long dry spell while it's still cool and everyone gets excited....
That's better
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One long dry spell while it's still cool and everyone gets excited....
That's better
Amen.
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Stop sullying the thread you luck based scrittlers! :chair:
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precisely, it's been lime time since 1st april :)
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Nearly every route on Two Tier was taken on Sunday...
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Nearly every route on Two Tier was taken on Sunday...
Oh dear. Quickly reverse the call at once before we got over-run!
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Hope no-one is planning any kind of calling
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/9213226/Coldest-May-in-100-years-forecasters-predict.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/9213226/Coldest-May-in-100-years-forecasters-predict.html)
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I was wondering.... I've heard rumours that it might be NE-ly stuff....maybe there will be good cragging...
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Some amazing comments on that article (and I only looked at the first page).
Saw this story was on the front page of some rag (Mail or Express) the other day. Think I'll reserve judgement.
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I'm taking the suck it and see approach too. but I'm not rushing to change from winter tyres, just in case!
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Probably wise. If they're right then it's more likely to be a problem where you are!
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All bollocks. Based on Piers Corbyn's 'WeatherAction' company that refuses to publish its 'unique' methods of weather prediction...
However anything that keeps the grit in and the lime out is good by me :)
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Balls to warm weather. I've put 12 sessions in to a local grit project. It better not warm up just as I'm getting close.
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Hope no-one is planning any kind of calling
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/9213226/Coldest-May-in-100-years-forecasters-predict.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/9213226/Coldest-May-in-100-years-forecasters-predict.html)
That's terrible :wall:
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That's terrible :wall:
You'll be alright with your new asda-price gloves.
pat pat
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I would resurrect bouldering season but it rains every day in the hills!
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This interview with the Piers Corbyn and in particular his "robust" argument made me piss myself and almost want to believe him :)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-weatherman-caught-in-a-media-storm-7665925.html?origin=internalSearch (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-weatherman-caught-in-a-media-storm-7665925.html?origin=internalSearch)
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This interview with the Piers Corbyn and in particular his "robust" argument made me piss myself and almost want to believe him :)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-weatherman-caught-in-a-media-storm-7665925.html?origin=internalSearch (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-weatherman-caught-in-a-media-storm-7665925.html?origin=internalSearch)
Great - you found it - I thought that article (which I read on Sat) was in the Grauniad not the Indy... what a tool he is... makes his money from selling phoney forecasts to the daily mail...
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What are the rules on retracting a call on the lime?
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Chant 'emil' 6 times whilst burning a copy of Northern Limestone?
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You'll probably need one of these (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gris-gris_%28talisman%29) for the magic to work properly.
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And one of these.
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What are the rules on retracting a call on the lime?
Its not been called has it? Normally this time of year I'm keeping a wary eye on scrawny, pale not-sure-how-old-they-are types, lest they try to put me in a box, but so far I've not been concerned. Though that vampire seen up at Burbage made me wonder what new tricks are in store...
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A daywalker is seen touching the brown rocks, a month past the equinox and still JB still does not feel the summer slumber calling him, strange times indeed...
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Nice one Jasper ;)
I thought it was Dob's job....but he has.....stuff to look after...
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What are the rules on retracting a call on the lime?
Its not been called has it? Normally this time of year I'm keeping a wary eye on scrawny, pale not-sure-how-old-they-are types, lest they try to put me in a box, but so far I've not been concerned. Though that vampire seen up at Burbage made me wonder what new tricks are in store...
The vampires only been seen at Secret Garden I understand ;)
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My team have got their eyes peeled. I daresay six fey feet of flaxen-haired nosferatu should be easier to spot than a quail-headed crow, translucent or not.
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Nice one Jasper ;)
I thought it was Dob's job....but he has.....stuff to look after...
Nobody's called anything yet!
We do have a dilemma though. Crimping Agnes passed the lime calling mantle to Dobbin because of family commitments but now Dob is similarly indisposed what happens? It was only supposed to be a temporary transference anyway so does the responsibility now return to Crabmeister Harris?
WHO IS IN CHARGE HERE???
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I do believe I saw this daywalker in early March at Burbage North wearing sunblock and aviators, naturally.
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I was thinking about this this morning. Years ago Crabmaster Harris felt a disruption in the fawcett and passed the duties of lime caller, and though i didn't feel accomplished enough to do the job, i was certainly keen - and for a couple of years I enjoyed cornering the tortoise and sealing him with straw in the airing cupboard. But no more, for I now have another little beagle for whom I have to take my eye off the prize.
But who could take on this role? who can be entrusted with the calling? Not barrows - too keen - his calling wouldn't be objective. Rupert - a strong contender, but similarly entrusted to the care of a beagle, so out of the running. The Fullwood is surely a prime candidate, but I fear he fears the tor. No, the caller must embrace that battleship of crags, and yet not be fervent in their admiration. I thought of young carmichael - but I think he has transport issues, and a lime caller must have ready access to the Tor, and know how to use the internet. For that reason the queen of the Tor - Rae Cowie is out of the running also.
Which is why, i would like to nominate Tor legend and all round nice guy Stu Little to take on the mantle.
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Isn't he in La Palma at the moment? (I may be horribly confused..)
WHO'S IN CHARGE HERE?
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If no ones in charge does that mean its grit-lime anarchy?
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What a farce. I suspect the fawcett may drench the crags this summer as a warning to these amateurs.
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With stu's intellect, dedication and ability to gaze into distant galaxies (no, not the chocolate) I would have thought he was a prime candidate.
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Not barrows - too keen - his calling wouldn't be objective.
I think I only stopped climbing on lime for about 3 weeks this year, and that was only because I wanted to train on plastic. Long live the lime!
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Whoa whao whoa sweet child of mine.
I thought harris was just taking a sabatical, hence the handover to dob was just temporary, so you'd think the final say should go back to harris.
Really we need some stability, ideally someone either too ugly to conceive a child, or gay. I'm guessing this was a big factor in dobbin's appointment but it goes to show that there's no such thing as a safe bet.
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Its a fair point (on both points). I shall text the crabmaster, as he is the emperor to my darth vader.
Could someone sharpen the tortoise stick please?
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I have spoken with the Haggis (currently nursing a cramped buttock), and he agrees, the little is an excellent choice. I will text him!
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I've got a bottle of tortoise feramone left over from Jasper's stag do if that's any help?
We could paint up an old Clog helmet to look like a lady tortoise and JB need not get injured in the process
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Not sure I could name anyone who regularly climbs at the tor under the age of 30 or without kids
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all that means is that we're not down with the kids anymore Baron ;)
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https://www.facebook.com/dobbinwondermule/posts/10151652263051614?comment_id=28959537&offset=0&total_comments=2¬if_t=share_reply (https://www.facebook.com/dobbinwondermule/posts/10151652263051614?comment_id=28959537&offset=0&total_comments=2¬if_t=share_reply)
Simon Lee: hey Ben - have you called the lime yet?
Ben MOrton: I tried to give that job to young George Carmichael, but he seems to have neglected his role, so - here it is Simon, I'm calling the lime!
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Here's to long dry days on the white stuff!
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What twisted wrongness is this??? You can't call the lime ON FUCKING FACEBOOK!!
Jesus Christ, another fiasco. We'll never hear the last of this from the luck based scrittlers and summer is going to be a washout again. :no:
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What twisted wrongness is this??? You can't call the lime ON FUCKING FACEBOOK!!
Jesus Christ, another fiasco. We'll never hear the last of this from the luck based scrittlers and summer is going to be a washout again. :no:
Well the tortoise was seen doing laps on Powerband, so I think the lime has been called well after the tortoise had bolted... (as fast as a tortoise can bolt that is..)
I agree - its a real mess. Heads should roll.. Its getting to the point where we might have to form an inquiry and a committee...
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What twisted wrongness is this??? You can't call the lime ON FUCKING FACEBOOK!!
Jesus Christ, another fiasco. We'll never hear the last of this from the luck based scrittlers and summer is going to be a washout again. :no:
Didn't even get it's own post, you're right this is a disgrace, I predict Kilsney will fall over and the Cornices will only dry in time for snowballing season to start again. All the fault of social media and both callers being so addled by fatherhood they don't know their crimps from their slopers.
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It’s indicative of the aesthetically challenged crimp-budgie mindset. Mark my words next year it’ll be a text message in youth-speak.
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its quite simple really dobbins fuckin useless. why andy gave him the job i'll never know, u can't just pass on the calling to anyone.
at least with the luck based scrittle johnnys there day in day out polishing the rock and wearing it down for future generations, and he knows his weather systems.
the lime mandate should be taken out of dobbins hands and given to someone that befits it
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Dense
the lime mandate should be taken out of dobbins hands and given to someone that befits it
That'll be Zippy then :bow:
The new season shall be 01/01-24/12 with a week off for snowballing, weather permitting.
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What a farce. I suspect the fawcett may drench the crags this summer as a warning to these amateurs.
Heed the warning from the tortoise! His prophecy was correct a year ago. This mess needs sorting quickly and decisively with a pointy stick, some lettuce and the hallowed box of anti-scrittle.
Remember Dob's appointment was only supposed to be temporary anyway.....
WHERE IS HARRIS!
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Doing DIY today I think. Resting up after a day on the scrittle with me and Rocketman yesterday at Rylstone ;D
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This is worse than DobbEggGate.
I'm predicting swathes of seepage and metric tonnes of tumbling choss. He of the highmost step will be back round in no time.
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Resting up after a day on the scrittle with me and Rocketman yesterday at Rylstone
Last day of scrittle, well timed.
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Maybe the mantle should be passed to a much younger apprentice who could be properly trained and fulfil the role for several years gaining much insight and wisdom before any family related issues cloud his vision.
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Fucking hell. Facebook. Words fail me.
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#limefail
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From here forth I'm going to rely on the cooing of a wood pigeon to call the lime for me, in your face .............Facebook.
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It's always lime time round these parts.
But whoever is responsible for erroneously calling the lime on Facebook needs to be brought to book.
Someone up there fucks up the calling of the lime. Next thing, it's Saturday down here, it's raining, and for the first time in ages, all our lime is wet!
Thank you very much.
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From here forth I'm going to rely on the cooing of a wood pigeon to call the lime for me, in your face .............Facebook.
As long as the wood pigeon does not deposit lime in your face ;)
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It's always lime time round these parts.
But whoever is responsible for erroneously calling the lime on Facebook needs to be brought to book.
Someone up there fucks up the calling of the lime. Next thing, it's Saturday down here, it's raining, and for the first time in ages, all our lime is wet!
Thank you very much.
Yep! Bloody Northerners. It's all your fault! Sun and balmy breezes all week and we've been stuck in the Bunker with hammer and saw. Just decided to head over to the cove and give ourselves a day off. Poked my head out from under the Duvet and it's Frickin pissing down and blowin a hoolie!
Wank holiday weekend...
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It's always lime time round these parts.
But whoever is responsible for erroneously calling the lime on Facebook needs to be brought to book.
Someone up there fucks up the calling of the lime. Next thing, it's Saturday down here, it's raining, and for the first time in ages, all our lime is wet!
Thank you very much.
Yep! Bloody Northerners. It's all your fault! Sun and balmy breezes all week and we've been stuck in the Bunker with hammer and saw. Just decided to head over to the cove and give ourselves a day off. Poked my head out from under the Duvet and it's Frickin pissing down and blowin a hoolie!
Wank holiday weekend...
Matt
if you get to the cove, can you put a few cheeky bolts in the mitre.
I don't think anyone will mind.
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There is a mild temptation to go down with a tube of yoohoo or some double sided tape and few hangers...
Mind you...
That may cause a few problems and overload Torbay A&E on a bank holiday WE...
Remember Children! Test your gear BEFORE you hang!
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Unless you're at swanage. Then it's probably best not to weight, or even test pull, any gear of any description. In fact, best not to cough.
Back on topic.
My friend is coming to stay in bristol tomorrow. For a couple days of drinking cider and idle climbing. It's my birthday weekend.
I hope this peak district miscalling of the lime witchery hasn't spannered the lime weather for the whole weekend.
Next year, if you can't find someone skilled enough in the arcane lime calling dark arts, don't call the lime at all. Heads should roll.
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Even my own son is outraged (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/05/zyqaragu.jpg)
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I see he favours the open crimp.
Is that a sign?
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Yes! Line's called! No more crowds at the crags!
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Is a Facebook calling of the lime akin to performing the Black Mass? Will this sacreligious event alter the seasons and give more power to those rabid luck-based scrittlers who look on the lime with envy and dark disdain?
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Given it was called a day before the three horsemen of the gritpocalypse hit Wimberry you might be on to something.
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Its still not been called here - so no whiteshite for me ;)
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Its still not been called here - so no whiteshite for me ;)
it was miscalled.
Wait until next year
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I've been in the lime all year, I dunno what all the fuss is about
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Bit indulgent this (and late!), but since no-one else did it....
http://youtu.be/sSEABp9kyds (http://youtu.be/sSEABp9kyds)
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I called it on the other thread bitch.
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Oh, ok, that's me told.
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Bit indulgent this (and late!), but since no-one else did it....
http://youtu.be/sSEABp9kyds (http://youtu.be/sSEABp9kyds)
Is this like a reading of the old testament of the G-bible?
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Is it time? I went to Burbage North at 10:30 today and the rock was only barely below ambient temperature. I don't think I'd touch the brown stuff again this year unless there's gale-force winds!
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Isn't everything wet back there?
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Fair point but I'd expect some good reports coming in today, if not tomorrow.
I don't really do routes but would have happily got on a rope today if I'd known it was going to be this warm!
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Can you have both Malham and the Tor seeping, and have a calling within a week?
I am sure the winged tortoise doesn't settle on land in heavy moisture.
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If its wet then there's no call coming. Patience people.
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Patience indeed. Just cos the scrittle is fucked for a week you can't get eager. I've actually got some faith that 9a barrows isn't going to screw this up.
Come on son!
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Too hot for the lime at Giggleswick upper! I imagine Malham would have a stream of paramedics rescuing people with sun-stroke and de-hydration. Someone needs to call Dow & Scafell.
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Dow & Scafell, the climber's solicitors! No lawsuit too big or too small!
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I wonder what fuck up will befall the crimp-budgies this year. First it was DobbEggGate, then it was called on Facebook, then it was called on the wrong thread. There's only so many ways to balls the call, they must be running out.
My money is on the call being made by Nigel Farage this year. That would be embarrassing.
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(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02920/farage-election-be_2920291b.jpg)
"I feel a disturbance in the Fawcett......"
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I've heard the UKIP manifesto will ban french starts and knee bars. :worms:
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And blame bad conditions on immigrants?
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Yes, of course, there is absolute scientific proof that greasy conditions are the result of laws made in Strasbourg, God do I have to explain everything in words of one er
syllable noise part bit ergh?
That and we'd see a return to English grades, Hubble HXS 7b is a much more worthwhile tick than 8c+/9a the bolts would of course be removed, think of the jobs for climbers returning our great limestone crags to the pristine trad ethics of the past.
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Bloody French ethics. Coming over here, improving standards in leaps and bounds and dragging British climbing out of the dark ages. What's wrong with only climbing cracks and chimneys and easy stuff?
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Lo! Our wandering Jester returns from the south.
He has seen cobbles of gold, worshiped at the alter of towering waves and fought with nemeses.
These foreign lands have tried to lure him, glorious battles and fine feasts like a siren's call.
And yet he knows that down this road only emptiness lies.
There can be but one true path, and it lies within the cult of power. Let us reach into the dark and pull out The Crimp.
Prostrate yourself before the alter of pinches wall!
Kneel before the Gods of the Dale and pray for blessings of dryness!
There is a time. And the time is now.
Plus Kilnsey looks dry innit
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Any way isn't revelations a solo now? :-\
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I seem to recall that Revelations was a solo 30 years ago.... ;-)
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Lime called went on grit, fucked it
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Never mind your golden fucking cobbles Barrows - what does the tortoise have to say on things?
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Was at the plantation tonight. Flippin mint, (ish). Mint enough for a euro team to send deliverance and captain hook. and another guy to wander up crescent arete, NTBTA archangel and white wand before sending Brad Pitt.
The tortoise has not yet finished eating lettuce.
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Who gives a fuck if it was good enough conditions to fall upwards at stanage. Real rocks are dry now, which means its limestone season.
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Decided that this was to be the first day of the lime for me and I awoke to the cooing of a wood pigeon, tis a sign we've chosen the right man for the job.
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Limed this morning at Rubicon and it was bonza. Good call.
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It's like waking from a strange dream - I cant quite remember what the other stuff looked and felt like - or if it ever really happened at all
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Perverts. The lot of you :)
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I'm confused
I liked the old fashioned scheme where "Grit!" was called when boss connies came in and then "Lime!" was called when the midges and lack of friction made the scrittle difficult to enjoy.
Now, it seems, "Lime!" has been called just because the white stuff has become dry enough to climb, irrespective of what the scrittle strokers have to say about it.
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Stop trying to drag it out and face the facts, it's over. Anyone who starts their scrittle stroking too early or clings on well into spring is only missing out on optimum lime connies. They'll be the ones moaning about how greasy the lime always is and pining for the return of the grit from mid august.
Why not give it a whirl now while it's cool and grippy, it's a lot easier and more enjoyable than it will be in 10 degrees time.
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... irrespective of what the scrittle strokers have to say about it.
Just how it should be,
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If Harris hasn't called it.
It's not called, even if it's dry.
It's the law....
Unlike my BBQ calling... Which is often bonkers.
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So rubicon no longer flooded?
Ace.
I'll get there ASAP :P
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Its a bit muddy with a small pond under the later parts of the warm up trav but all fine for climbing. Fair bit of seepage on the routes bit to the left of Kudos wall.
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Cheers.
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Why not give it a whirl now while it's cool and grippy, it's a lot easier and more enjoyable than it will be in 10 degrees time.
I'm worried that I might like it
I've got enough problems already; what with the drink, drugs, gambling, womanizing, fast cars, gun collecting and all that
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You got 99 problems but a crimp ain't one.
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Don't you mean big cars?
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You got 99 problems but his Xsara ain't one.
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If Harris hasn't called it.
I saw him this morning, but he got away before I could shove him into a suitably secure box
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Matchbox with celloptape?
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Pretty mint on the grit recently.
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Has anyone seen Stone recently? I've not seen him out on the lime yet this year!!!
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Haven't seen him but he was after a partner for Rubicon via the Facebook group last week.
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I wondered what "Stone upon the White Rock" meant in The Book of Portents
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So who's doing the calling this year?
The grit was feeling decidedly summer like at times yesterday eve.... Has anyone seen a three headed crow flying backwards with a tortoise in one beak recently?
It feels like it's getting towards the time....
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:goodidea:
Definitely time for the lime in my eyes! Was 14 degrees at Tremeirchion on Friday!
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An extensive research program involving having to SCROLL BACK ANOTHER F*CKIGN PAGE! Revealed that Barrows is the lime caller. Unless there has been a coup d'tortoise in the last twelve months.
Lo! Our wandering Jester returns from the south.
He has seen cobbles of gold, worshiped at the alter of towering waves and fought with nemeses.
These foreign lands have tried to lure him, glorious battles and fine feasts like a siren's call.
And yet he knows that down this road only emptiness lies.
There can be but one true path, and it lies within the cult of power. Let us reach into the dark and pull out The Crimp.
Prostrate yourself before the alter of pinches wall!
Kneel before the Gods of the Dale and pray for blessings of dryness!
There is a time. And the time is now.
Plus Kilnsey looks dry innit
Anyway - this shows the calling was on the 14th April last year... are we there yet oh great Barrows of the Lime calling almighty righteous worthiness?
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Not sure if he's gone yet but he's either in or off to Australia so I'd imagine the state of Peak Lime is of little concern to him.
Haydn might be the man this year?
Haven't been out too much but from connies reports it doesn't sound like we're there yet. Don't we go through this every year when someone has a warm day in the grit? The end of one doesn't necessarily mean the other starts by default
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Not sure if he's gone yet but he's either in or off to Australia so I'd imagine the state of Peak Lime is of little concern to him.
Haydn might be the man this year?
Haven't been out too much but from connies reports it doesn't sound like we're there yet. Don't we go through this every year when someone has a warm day in the grit? The end of one doesn't necessarily mean the other starts by default
Eh?? Barrows has f*cked off to Australia without leaving a deputy - or passing on the baton to someone else... this is nearly as big a f*ck up as when the Dobbinator had responsibility and we ended up with the Facebook debacle..
But Haydn is a good shout. Seconded.
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The baton doesn't get passed on, it gets left in a random peak location and awaits the caller. Many pass it without even noticing it's there, many see it but aren't drawn to it.
Kids pick it up and are told "put that down, it's dangerous". It is.
But eventually the right man, or woman, spends so long in the dirt and dust that they learn what it is. Maybe they've seen it a hundred times before and ignored it but one day it dawns on them what it is and away they go.
Kind of begs the question, how the fuck did Dobbin get hold of it though?
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Kind of begs the question, how the fuck did Dobbin get hold of it though?
Maybe it was in the chalkbag he found at the Tor...
https://vimeo.com/72476340
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Powerband is still wet. The lime ain't being called yet
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I already abdicated for this year ages ago.. Off to Australia tomorrow, screw you raven tor!
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Powerband is still wet. The lime ain't being called yet
Fair enough - it's your call
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Hayden is too keen though, a good thing to be but not a good attribute for a caller
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Hayden is too keen though, a good thing to be but not a good attribute for a caller
Why not? Anyway at least he's around ;)
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Hayden is too keen though, a good thing to be but not a good attribute for a caller
at least we'd have a good laugh at him getting egg on his balls
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By extension does that mean that JB is not, and has never been, keen?
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Jibé?
be interesting to have a foreigner holding the stick
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This whole thing is a farce. If I could think of someone dead who cared, I'd say they'd be turning in their grave. Does Harris still climb? He's probably squirming on the mats at the schoolroom. If you're embarrassed for an embarrassment does it double up or cancel out?
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Ever noticed how JB gets increasingly grumpy as the grit season winds down? I say we don't need a lime caller; lets just wait until JB punches an orphan in the teeth and start the season on that day.
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I believe in Hayden. The lime baton is in good hands. Your glory days and oneness with the grit have passed several seasons ago. Admit it - after this winters disastrous call you need to let go of the grit baton and graciously pass it to Mark Rankine
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By extension does that mean that JB is not, and has never been, keen?
JB is keen but he is not Hayden keen, no sureebob
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This whole thing is a farce. If I could think of someone dead who cared, I'd say they'd be turning in their grave. Does Harris still climb? He's probably squirming on the mats at the schoolroom. If you're embarrassed for an embarrassment does it double up or cancel out?
Get off this thread scrittler!
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The annual limestone call debacle. No wonder this country isn't top of the climbing game any more.
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Ever noticed how JB gets increasingly grumpy as the grit season winds down?
If you can call it a season. The result of a shoddy call.
For what it's worth you can't have Haydn as a caller, as he's already ignoring protocol by climbing on limestone all year round so the call is irrelevant to him, no emotional investment in it. It'd be like someone calling Creme Egg season every easter, but who secretly gorges on a hidden cache of outdated Creme Eggs the rest of the year anyway.
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Ever noticed how JB gets increasingly grumpy as the grit season winds down?
If you can call it a season. The result of a shoddy call.
For what it's worth you can't have Haydn as a caller, as he's already ignoring protocol by climbing on limestone all year round so the call is irrelevant to him, no emotional investment in it. It'd be like someone calling Creme Egg season every easter, but who secretly gorges on a hidden cache of outdated Creme Eggs the rest of the year anyway.
You'd think but...
Powerband is still wet. The lime ain't being called yet
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Fear not! I understand the roll of the caller. If someone was to prematurely call the lime, there would be great turmoil in the skys above. Calling the turtle into hibernation early would potentially lead to a catastrophic battle between the 3 eyed crow and the turtle upon his back.
Long may the trees grow, drink thy sky water and plug thee seepage lines I say!....Just not quite yet...
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TBF this season has been fucking awful for both calls and climbing. I think we can allow some leeway.
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Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No!
It is the three eyed crow upon the tortoise's back,
so pack your down in you sack.
Get off that filthy crack.
For its prime time for some lime time.
And just remeber to pray hail to the god of the dale.
Blessed may we be for a long and prosperous season!
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I was gonna call it sooner but was put off by the snow on saturday! What a bizarre season it is.
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A stylish call there.
I was climbing on the lime, in the snow, on Saturday. I think this might be right.
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I am happy about the call.
Gives me hope about my current board project.
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Premature I think, given the forecast. Is Ben's roof even dry yet? Tssk, etc.
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Excellent crisp conditions, the numbing out/thawing process works well as hot/cold treatment of pulleys while on the move. . .
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Seems like the right call - Stanage was a bit soapy last night, there were pigeons all over the crag (but no turtles to be seen) and a strange man screaming and yelling for hours at the popular end whilst filming himself with a drone.
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Stanage ... and a strange man screaming and yelling for hours at the popular end whilst filming himself with a drone.
was his screaming loud enough to drown out the noise of the drone?
was it a climber, or just some twunt doing a bit of shouty theatre ?
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Well I for one am going to the Tor this evening. Good call.
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Seems like the right call - Stanage was a bit soapy last night, there were pigeons all over the crag (but no turtles to be seen) and a strange man screaming and yelling for hours at the popular end whilst filming himself with a drone.
Yes - WTF was that all about. :shrug:
saw folks carrying a generator and what looked like a sound system up as we drove past hooks carr. We were at the plantation, but heard tell of some constant shouting and drones etc.
Not sure if it was the same drone that was flying around the plantation or not. Pissed me off though, marring what was possibly one of the most beautiful evenings I've been out on in a long long while. Like suffering jet skis when at gogarth. :furious:
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I'm getting me a catapult to take down that drone next time. Annoying as fuck!
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I feel that urinating on the drone operator might be worthwhile
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Premature I think, given the forecast. Is Ben's roof even dry yet? Tssk, etc.
That confirms it then. Good call Haydn.
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how's the forget-me-not scene at Rubicon?
any new watermint growth showing?
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Premature I think, given the forecast. Is Ben's roof even dry yet? Tssk, etc.
That confirms it then. Good call Haydn.
Does this mean I can take an extra grade for my forthcoming grit ascents?
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Premature I think, given the forecast. Is Ben's roof even dry yet? Tssk, etc.
That confirms it then. Good call Haydn.
Does this mean I can take an extra grade for my forthcoming grit ascents?
No, you have to drop a grade from all your winter grit ascents ;)
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how's the forget-me-not scene at Rubicon?
I can't remember.
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Powerband's not even dry, what kind of call is this?
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It was bone dry when I got there, but you know what you were saying about the lack of trees...
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Powerband is dry. I climbed it on saturday...
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just by way of a bit of warning for Haydn
I encountered a previous Caller the other day
since losing The Sight of Lime and all the glory that goes with it, he has descended into the dark hole of comorbid addictions to shortbread and liquid chocolate
despite an encyclopedic knowledge of Pinches Wall, he is now just a drooling, grinning mess
his carers allowed me to take a picture
he can't even stand up straight
(http://i66.tinypic.com/rter2t.jpg)
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The thought of a life of chocolate fountains and biscuits sounds very atractive I must say! :clap2:
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Aren't Lime Callers like bearers of The Ring, and sail away to the Undying Lands at the end of their quest?
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no,
they're more like retired boxers, but without much chance of getting into panto
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no,
they're more like retired boxers, but without much chance of getting into panto
Yeah - exactly, look what happened to Dobbin...
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I've heard the cooing of a wood pigeon already this year.
Just sayin :whistle: ..........................
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Daffodils are out
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So are the nutters. Anyone checked out the Cornice yet?
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Due to get cold again on Friday - wind yer neck in Limeys...
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yeah, get a grip lads - the scrittle is still the cool place to get injured
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Another season has come and past
who knows how long this one will last
So go! Get out!
And don't you pout
For sun is shining
And the lime is calling.
Now get to the tor
And climb indoors no more.
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Aren't most of the crags still wet?
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Having been at the Tor today and with upcoming good weather I think this is good call. However, I am disturbed that Hayden called it on Facebook first, and am worried that the supernatural spirits of the Peak will somehow need to be appeased.
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HOLD THE FUCK ON. You can't call the lime before the clocks have gone forwards. This is basic stuff.
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I was thinking that should be a rule, written or otherwise.
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So obviously going to end up with another farce. Had such high hopes for Hayden too. On the other hand if it means less folk on the scrittle this weekend, go for it!
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Another rule, written or otherwise, should be that there are actually some dry routes to attempt.
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You made Hayden the lime caller when he feels no season's end nor it's start. You reap what you sow, a wet cornice upon all your houses!
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It's a bold call but I hope it's warranted. The long range forecast looks good so let's hope the lime holds out!
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Everyone's a backseat lime caller.
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As far as I understand, Yorkshire is still fucked. Down with the false prophet!
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I caught three carp whilst fly fishing for trout this evening
carp know more than UKB and the Met Office combined
this is a good omen for fans of white rock that isn't seeping
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I think this is a bold and brave lime calling.
I am however appalled that Ukb wasn't the first port of call to make the announcement.
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Shambles calling as ever. The crimp budgies have doomed themselves again for another season, heavens be praised.
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I just had my best weekend ever on pristine, dry limestone. I have faith in the call.
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the whole calling on facebook first was due to the reception race at malham and i guess facebook won over ukb. they were both posted at the same time :).
the season has most definitely started was rammed at the tor today people having to park round the corner!
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Burbage South was pretty good today
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Sorry Haydn perhaps I should clarify, I'm appalled that Ukb wasn't the ONLY place to find out about the call.
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Sorry Haydn perhaps I should clarify, I'm appalled that Ukb wasn't the ONLY place to find out about the call.
Good call Haydn, but a Facebook first call brings back memories of the dark Omnishambles when Dobbin was left in charge of the tortoise hutch.
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Burbage South was pretty good today
I did Point Five yesterday. I know the climate's changing and all that, but I'd say this new guy is a fucking clown.
The root problem with the calling of the lime is that anyone sufficiently keen to take the role is self-selecting as having, at best, a tenuous grasp on the whole concept of quality or enjoyment.
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Maybe a tighter brief needs to be provided for said aspirant Lime Caller? The way I see it, the lime should be called once the grit is out and the lime is dry (obvs). Clearly, anyone with half a brain knows the grit isn't out of season yet, and the final pocket on Powerband is still wet FFS. Indeed it was only 4 years ago that we were snowballing in April. Calling the lime in March is so off the mark, I'm surprised anyone has even taken notice of it!
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Is there a procedure for impeaching a caller? Asking for a friend.
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The way I see it, the lime should be called once the grit is out and the lime is dry (obvs).
I'm calling bullshit on that assumption.
The lime does its thing and the grit does its.
Any connection is only in the mind of a conflicted climber who hasn't discovered their true calling.
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Called exactly a day before, to the hour, the time I was sunbathing lethargically at Bamford, barely able to move my heat-addled body out of the path of the Neb Buttress send train, let alone consider pulling on flesh-melting scrittle slopers. The one thought that swirled through the debilitating haze was "FFS someone call the lime already?!".
Bang on I say.
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#NotMyLimeCaller
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Has anyone asked Bob Pettigrew for his opinion on this call?
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I have absolutely zero confidence in Bob Pettigrew's lime calling, whether he announces it on Facebook or not >:(
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Went on the Lime on Saturday, got sunburnt and mid-afternoon it was too hot to climb, even sitting was tiring. I imagine the Catwalk was a right bag of laughs.
Went on the Grit on Sunday, got wintburnt and mid-afternoon it was mint connies, even got too cold to continue after that.
#makesyouthink
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Powerplant is dry. I don't want to say i told you so, but...I told you so.
Bring on 2017!
Annoyingly Its one of the earliest starts to the season and I'm spending it doing grit hvs's cos I've got a totally fucked finger. Fingers feeling better today hopefully it's not a long injury.
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The way I see it, the lime should be called once the grit is out and the lime is dry (obvs).
I'm calling bullshit on that assumption.
The lime does its thing and the grit does its.
Any connection is only in the mind of a conflicted climber who hasn't discovered their true calling.
This....
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Exactly. Yesterday we saw cold conditions enough to get good friction on grit yet powerplant is now dry. There's no way we can have a dry cornice and not be in line season.
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Powerplant may be dry now, but could be wet again for all of May, June and July.
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I want to know what Grit HVSes and whether they get the Johnny Brown seal of approval?? I've always thought Hen Cloud and Ramshaw HVSes would still be totally valid during the lime season....
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I was down Cheedale on Saturday and I have to say Powerplant did not look dry to me. Chee tor in great nick though.
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I want to know what Grit HVSes and whether they get the Johnny Brown seal of approval?? I've always thought Hen Cloud and Ramshaw HVSes would still be totally valid during the lime season....
Did great butress up at dovestone tor. Ended up bailing cos it got too cold up there
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Nice choice!
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Walking up to Dovestone Tor will give you too beefy thigh for the lime. Jeez. I don't envy the caller this year. Too cold for grit, JB at the Tor, it's madness.
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Hang on - don't we have separate callers for grit and lime? If so what's the problem? Both can Shirley be on at once?
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On the wrong rocks tho. When it's too hot for lime and too cold for grit. I need a lie down thinking about it.
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Powerplant may be dry now, but could be wet again for all of May, June and July.
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I was down Cheedale on Saturday and I have to say Powerplant did not look dry to me. Chee tor in great nick though.
It was reported on the FB group as "climbable" which has been interpreted as dry but probably means workable. Three months earlier than last year though, just have to hope it stays dry longer than four weeks.
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Gather round, gather round.
The calling is abound
As the lime is here i know
For the daffodils have begun to grow
Coaxed from yonder plains
The crow, a footing he gains
So once again go out and strive
And embrace that feeling to be alive
May blessings be upon the crimp.
Heres to long and prosperous season!
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JB was at Rheinstor from the look of things. A lucky escape for everyone involved. It's 10'c and raining in Glasgow, so a fine call as usual.
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Where's Haydn?
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Crimp budgie shambles as usual. Warm temps, seep free crags, Shark wobbling up the Oak, and still no call. Grit season lives on.
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Where's Haydn?
out on the grit
https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,29991.0.html
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Crimp budgie shambles as usual. Warm temps, seep free crags, Shark wobbling up the Oak, and still no call. Grit season lives on.
Has grit season started? :)
To be fair - lime has been largely ‘in’ since January..
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Grit season lives on.
Haven’t we covered this before?
Ah yes...
The lime does its thing and the grit does its.
Any connection is only in the mind of a conflicted climber who hasn't discovered their true calling.
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Where's Haydn?
Good call. I think you can have the honour this year. Definitely the end for now. Churnet season is open!
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A late call I know but fear of an early call damning us to a wet summer clouded my judgement.
In hindsight it should have been called potentially 2 weeks ago.
But an offering I provide as an apology. An ancient peak tradition of doing an existing boulder but in reverse and giving it a new name and grade
I present Isolation 8A. Quarantine but in reverse (starting as for alpha)
Now get out there and CRANK!!
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since this morning, I have an "outy" bellybutton - that's got to be some sort of sign
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But an offering I provide as an apology. An ancient peak tradition of doing an existing boulder but in reverse and giving it a new name and grade
I present Isolation 8A. Quarantine but in reverse (starting as for alpha)
Brilliant stuff. I once did the same here with a problem here named Stanley, but I named the new one Yelnats. Just to make everything more useless.
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since this morning, I have an "outy" bellybutton - that's got to be some sort of sign
Are your ankles swollen too? Any unusual food cravings? (Salad etc...)
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since this morning, I have an "outy" bellybutton - that's got to be some sort of sign
Are your ankles swollen too? Any unusual food cravings? (Salad etc...)
oh shit, time for a piss test?
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since this morning, I have an "outy" bellybutton - that's got to be some sort of sign
Are your ankles swollen too? Any unusual food cravings? (Salad etc...)
oh shit, time for a piss test?
Don’t chuck out those baby clothes yet...
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The Spring like weather today reminded we need a caller as Haydn is on his travels.
Any suggestions?
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The Spring like weather today reminded we need a caller as Haydn is on his travels.
Any suggestions?
I nominate Nai. As a regular practitioner of brown and white rocks - I think he’d be a steady hand 😃
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The Spring like weather today reminded we need a caller as Haydn is on his travels.
Any suggestions?
I nominate Nai. As a regular practitioner of brown and white rocks - I think he’d be a steady hand 😃
+1, dabbles on both so isn't bias.
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Errr, it's not supposed to be a dabbler. It's supposed to be a dyed in the wool over-biting diet-obsessed crimp fiend anorexic wierdo with no aesthetic sense whatsoever who once tried grit but didn't like it cos there were topouts and slopers and slabs and scrittle and beautiful moves requiring poise and grace. Or you'll unbalance the White and Dark Peaks and bad things will happen. Like plagues, floods etc. Traditionally it's also been a hapless klutz who drops the ball, misses the call and can't do more than one season without quitting, but I think those are optional.
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Errr, it's not supposed to be a dabbler. It's supposed to be a dyed in the wool over-biting diet-obsessed crimp fiend anorexic wierdo with no aesthetic sense whatsoever who once tried grit but didn't like it cos there were topouts and slopers and slabs and scrittle and beautiful moves requiring poise and grace. Or you'll unbalance the White and Dark Peaks and bad things will happen. Like plagues, floods etc. Traditionally it's also been a hapless klutz who drops the ball, misses the call and can't do more than one season without quitting, but I think those are optional.
I bow to your knowledge.
btw I've lost those pictures of you dogging Cry of Despair. Sleep easy.
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What JB said. It needs to be some cellar dwelling tendon who gets a rash when they go into the sunlight.
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I nominate Shark.
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I nominate Shark.
Do they have to be any good?
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Or you'll unbalance the White and Dark Peaks and bad things will happen. Like plagues, floods etc. Traditionally it's also been a hapless klutz who drops the ball, misses the call and can't do more than one season without quitting, but I think those are optional.
I nominate WFT, but mainly because I think he hates climbing on the grit.
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I'd nominate Mat Wright. Don't know him personally but his credentials are impeccable.
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I suggest we crowd fund a Machine learning based PhD to sort this shit out once and for all... :D
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I'd nominate Mat Wright. Don't know him personally but his credentials are impeccable.
:2thumbsup:
Perfect. I’ll put it to him
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We have a new caller :dance1:
How’s Powerband looking?
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Well that fits the quality of the subject matter very well :sick:
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Who's the lime caller? Did the lime actually get called? just the usual shambles...
10degrees and a Northwesterly on Thursday/Friday, see you all on the grit
:popcorn:
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Who's the lime caller? Did the lime actually get called? just the usual shambles..
Furloughed
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Thought the overlords were basing it on UKBSage science committee? 😃
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Who's the lime caller? Did the lime actually get called?
Boris called it obvs.
Hope it’s not him again next year.
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Dominic Cummings called it on his blog last year
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10degrees and a Northwesterly on Thursday/Friday, see you all on at Taddington Crag X
:lol:
I think a missed call can be forgiven this year given the circumstances. If the clipstick baton is passed to someone with more personality the next year, sobeit.
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Who's the lime caller? Did the lime actually get called? just the usual shambles...
10degrees and a Northwesterly on Thursday/Friday, see you all on the grit
:popcorn:
fuck the lime
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fuck the lime
grit is shit
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This year would have been a superb data point for the calling being an indicator of climate change study. And now it’s all been fucked away.
I demand a UKB enquiry. With a poll.
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well i didn't call it cos 1. im stuck in wales. and 2. I though BO JO called it upon releasing lockdown? finally got out for the first time today at a local crag, found a nice project for me to try and just typical the forecast is for rain after weeks and weeks of sun. the climbing gods hate me
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If the clipstick baton is passed to someone with more personality the next year, sobeit.
Harsh?
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I present Isolation 8A. Quarantine but in reverse (starting as for alpha)
Now get out there and CRANK!!
It seems that last year's apparentaly late Lime Call was actually a really early 2020 call.
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If the clipstick baton is passed to someone with more personality the next year, sobeit.
Harsh?
Maybe. I thought it was NOT Hadyn this year btw??
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Errr, it's not supposed to be a dabbler. It's supposed to be a dyed in the wool over-biting diet-obsessed crimp fiend anorexic wierdo with no aesthetic sense whatsoever who once tried grit but didn't like it cos there were topouts and slopers and slabs and scrittle and beautiful moves requiring poise and grace. Or you'll unbalance the White and Dark Peaks and bad things will happen. Like plagues, floods etc. Traditionally it's also been a hapless klutz who drops the ball, misses the call and can't do more than one season without quitting, but I think those are optional.
At least we met all of JB's requirements ;D
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Clearly we need for for the Limestone Advisory Group. This group would be refreshed each summer - with a hand over from the old LAGs to the new. Their role is to advise - er the caller on when to make the call.
Alternatively, we could contract Serco to create a series of national centres capable of doing - (picks a number at random) 200 000 calls a day.
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A more appropriate moniker for this quango in these times might be the Science-led Limestone Advisory Group, with an appended (S) for those who are chosen by polling, standing for Seconded.
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A more appropriate moniker for this quango in these times might be the Science-led Limestone Advisory Group, with an appended (S) for those who are chosen by polling, standing for Seconded.
It’s clearly an important issue to get right. So maybe the SLAGs could advise the LAGs?
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fuck the lime
my grit skillz is shit
fixed
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Minter than replacing your chalk with crushed Polos this evening at Helsby. Velcro would have seemed slippery in comparison. I *almost* feel sorry for the lime
ball dropper caller this year.
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Minter than replacing your chalk with crushed Polos this evening at Helsby. Velcro would have seemed slippery in comparison. I *almost* feel sorry for the lime ball dropper caller this year.
Similar at Burbage, except that I had some coordination problems and had a bad fall whilst warming up, also had joint pain which meant I couldn't put up with wearing climbing shoes.
Still, better than limestone
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I had hoped for a warm sunny spell after the mini ice age to come but rain it is instead, oh well! With the end of the mini ice age I declare open season on the lime! Hopefully its going to be a good year for us crimpers. I wish tendons of steel upon you all and endless sunny days!
COME ON LIME! LETS DO IT!
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Good call as always :2thumbsup:
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Hadyn you're a shambles. End of the mini-ice-age?? Do you even check forecasts, I know they're not as reliable as reading sheep entrails or spotting a crow-headed quail, but come on. Forecast for Calver area is snow this weekend and plenry of sub-zero temps. This call is so premature it needs to be put on a ventilator - which JB will mercifully turn off.
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Hadyn you're a shambles. End of the mini-ice-age?? Do you even check forecasts, I know they're not as reliable as reading sheep entrails or spotting a crow-headed quail, but come on. Forecast for Calver area is snow this weekend and plenry of sub-zero temps. This call is so premature it needs to be put on a ventilator - which JB will mercifully turn off.
A decent call. May be a day or two left in the brown rocks yet - but there’s an old Russian saying ‘better to make the wrong decision than no decision’.
Anyway - Fiend - since when have you been a Peak Lime afficionado? I bet the nearest you’ve been Lime bouldering was when someone told you that rubbing your blistered cheb end on the starting holds of Kudos would clear up your persistent rot? 😁
(Did it work? Asking for a friend obvs..)
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Another glorious Dobb Egg of a lime call. The lime calling has been such a shambles for so long I actually worry what might happen if it's done right one year.
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I don't think we have to worry too much about THAT, Will... ::)
Tomtom I was rotpunkting in Chee Dale on Sunday, but I knew it was just a temporary bit of active rest / pulp-massage before returning to the scrittle. And yes if the Kudos holds have sticky damp....you know why.
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Hadyn you're a shambles. End of the mini-ice-age?? Do you even check forecasts, I know they're not as reliable as reading sheep entrails or spotting a crow-headed quail, but come on. Forecast for Calver area is snow this weekend and plenry of sub-zero temps. This call is so premature it needs to be put on a ventilator - which JB will mercifully turn off.
The lime isn't some fickle mistress requiring a perfect confluence of conditions before it comes in. Two tier is bone dry and people have been climbing at rubicon for weeks, this cold spell is just a brief window in which to send the projects you've been working for the last month. The lime is definitively open.
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The call doesn’t just signal when it’s possible to climb on the incoming rock type though, it’s also when the conditions to climb hard on the outgoing type have sufficiently diminished. Some people climb on one rock type all year round, doesn’t mean it’s always officially both seasons.
Look back through both of the calling threads and you’ll see that the true start of every season is preceded by a short spell during which people have this exact squabble- the most accurate calls come at the end of those periods, not the start.
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The call doesn’t just signal when it’s possible to climb on the incoming rock type though, it’s also when the conditions to climb hard on the outgoing type have sufficiently diminished. Some people climb on one rock type all year round, doesn’t mean it’s always officially both seasons.
I think 'incoming' and 'outgoing' rock types are a misnomer: if the lime is in it's in, it doesn't matter what those weirdos scratching around on the brown rubbish think is in condition.
I've been out on the lime loads these last 2 weeks and it's absolutely mint conditions. To delay the call any further would be to deny reality.
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Mag lime has been mint for weeks and no waders needed for Rubicon. Ignore the naysayers, good call (perhaps even somewhat late?) and thanks, I'm off to The P.
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I'm going to stand in support of this call. I think it might be time develop a strict criteria for lime calling though, obviously this should be developed in secret with the final list only known the currently designated caller.
This may require some ritualistic self sacrifice on the part of the development committee however for which I nominate shark.
I've messaged Hayden with my criteria suggestion. I think we should all do the same and he can develop a final list in secret to be passed on.
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Isn't the lime/girt call all just gambling...?
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I'm boycotting lime until it provides equal opportunities for fat, useless, weak punters
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When I look through the Peak Bouldering guide I see hundreds of lime problems I can’t do, which is almost as many as the grit problems I can’t get up.
Equal opportunities to fail in abundance, to be fair.
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Does it have to be either/or? Obviously you can climb on either all year, but I think both can be in season at the same time too.
The grit call is largely temps (and witchcraft), whereas the lime is mostly seepage, no? So with a dry feb/mar, this sort of glorious dual season is a real possibility, and one to be savoured!
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So the day I climb on grit for the first time in at least 18 months and the lime gets called. I wonder if someone traced me through the google implant in my C19 vaccination.
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a real possibility, and one to be savoured!
(Not by me obvs, the closest thing to grit in my locale is frome valley sandstone...)
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I'm boycotting lime until it provides equal opportunities for fat, useless, weak punters
It does, places like the lovely slabby Staden. Although given the Flash Bar webcam is showing the typical prime lime conditions of "blanketed with heavy show", that's another option that's actually a nail hammered into the polished, wobbly coffin of this doomed early call.
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Does it have to be either/or? Obviously you can climb on either all year, but I think both can be in season at the same time too.
The grit call is largely temps (and witchcraft), whereas the lime is mostly seepage, no? So with a dry feb/mar, this sort of glorious dual season is a real possibility, and one to be savoured!
I'd say this time of year is pretty much prime time for almost everything. Grit bouldering, lime bouldering, lime chuffing, sandstone, mountain bouldering in the Lakes and Wales; it's all in!
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I'd say this time of year is pretty much prime time for almost everything. Grit bouldering, lime bouldering, lime chuffing, sandstone, mountain bouldering in the Lakes and Wales; it's all in!
Hell yeah, so dry in the Lakes at the mo too, and I guess from Monday there’s no risk of accidentally offending anyone by driving for a couple of hours to go bouldering!
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Just so we're clear about this - the only thing I have against lime is that I am shit on Peak lime.
I am trying my best to be happy for the rest of you.
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Does it have to be either/or? Obviously you can climb on either all year, but I think both can be in season at the same time too.
The grit call is largely temps (and witchcraft), whereas the lime is mostly seepage, no? So with a dry feb/mar, this sort of glorious dual season is a real possibility, and one to be savoured!
I'd say this time of year is pretty much prime time for almost everything. Grit bouldering, lime bouldering, lime chuffing, sandstone, mountain bouldering in the Lakes and Wales; it's all in!
That's partly the issue. There was any sense of decency and fairness, the lime wouldn't be called until the grit was definitely OUT, let alone when it's still prime grit connies (snow aside). The lime is, was, and always will be the last resort of the discerning gentleperson, and ideally should be called as thus.
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Absolutely no doubt in my mind it's primo for lime bouldering and therefore the call is correct. Up for debate whether route season is truly in as its flecking freezing but this is a bouldering site, so good call.
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Drove from Sheffield to Llandudno yesterday (non-climbing permissible trip) through snow on Snake and Glossop and M67 but blue skies and sunshine in Wales. Similar scenes on return journey
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There was any sense of decency and fairness, the lime wouldn't be called until the grit was definitely OUT, let alone when it's still prime grit connies (snow aside)
Suck it up buttercup
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How was the Cave shark? Find any good cross-over projects relevant to Bens Sans?
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How was the Cave shark? Find any good cross-over projects relevant to Bens Sans?
Had a stroll up there and got shown where the main problems went by a guy from Chesterfield who’s moved to Bangor (David) Shame it’s so far away. Llandudno is so nice.
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COME ON LIME! LETS DO IT!
Jim pope has done The Boss, Ned's GRITSTONE 8B+ that he put up last year.
This mis-call is really delivering what it promised :)
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Just because people are still doing stuff on the grit it doesn't mean it's not lime season.
The cornice is drying out. It's 10 degrees. It's sunny. It's lime prime time.
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You’re sounding a bit stuck record here Fiend... 😁
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With good reason!! I didn't know popeonarope and James N would pull out a repeat of the hardest problem on grit this last week... But it gives a nice context to this being the worst lime call in the sordid history of bad lime calls. Even Haydn's reasoning was deluded - "ice age turning to rain" when indeed it turned to snow, sub-zero nights, and more crisp grit connies. But yes, I probably don't need to point it out any more, fair enough.... :whatever:
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Starting to wonder whether Dan C has hacked Fiend's account on here.
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The Lime call isn't contingent on scrittle conditions and I'm claiming the Boss as one of ours - definitive honorary limestone.
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This is why i nominated you for self sacrifice shark.
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You’re all heart
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Starting to wonder whether Dan C has hacked Fiend's account on here.
Arsehole, that's below the belt and even below my wobbling gutline >:( Pretty sure my calling posts are 1. topical, 2. comprehensible, and 3. not just trolling :smartass:
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Just because people are still doing stuff on the grit it doesn't mean it's not lime season.
The cornice is drying out. It's 10 degrees. It's sunny. It's lime prime time.
It's both. Which is unusual and most enjoyable.
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Everybody is happy!
Except Fiend.
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Anyone recommend a good first 7A to try at Anston? I've got my project on the grit but Limestone is more my style anyway.
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Beretta
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That's in my book as a 7A+! I'll try it anyway. Skip a grade, why not.
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Saruman is soft as (it's never 7A). Beta Blocker is good and is low in the grade, especially if you know the beta or are flexible or short. Last Stand is one powerful move, then steady to the top (don't bother looking for the ear, it fell off years ago).
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Last Stand is also a few stars so I will try that too. Thanks for the recommendations!
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Saruman is soft as (it's never 7A). Beta Blocker is good and is low in the grade, especially if you know the beta or are flexible or short. Last Stand is one powerful move, then steady to the top (don't bother looking for the ear, it fell off years ago).
From what I can tell, Saruman is an ill-defined eliminate. I vaguely recall doing it using a sequence a local told me was legit, and it did feel about 7a. But since then, I've seen people (in person and on video), doing "Saruman" using much less restricted sequences, which are never 7a. Basically, to be 7a it needs a universally accepted Minus10 style topo with every move prescribed... and really... who cares?!
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That's in my book as a 7A+! I'll try it anyway. Skip a grade, why not.
Whoops. Sorry
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No worries.
I mean what is a grade anyway? A lie by any other name
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Good weekend for an actual lime calling, this one :2thumbsup:
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I'm tempted to try this lime thing too this year. Still bouldering though. Please could someone recommend me a good problem that meets the following criteria:
Within 1 hour of South Leeds
7C-7C+ ish (maybe 8A if its not actually 8A at 6'2)
Not too conditions dependent(that's the point isn't it?)
Sustained rather than cruxy (also the point of lime?)
Reasonably skin friendly
Absolute bonus points if it also:
Is actually a line
Stay dry / dries quickly
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Ebola and Resonate at Anston Stones.
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Something at goyden (maybe more than 1 hr?) or anstons. Cant pick problems as it is above my paygrade.
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Is actually a line
This is limestone we're talking about, right?
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The two North Yorks lime problems that fit your criteria (Matador at Attermire and Ribtickler at Goyden) are more like 1hr30 from South Leeds, and Attermire requires a bit of a walk in too. I guess Launch Control at Kilnsey it the line of weakness from a sit, whereas a lot of the other hard things there are blinkers on. Kilnsey from south Leeds in an hour would require a very decent run too.
As such I’m assuming your time limit leaves you only with the Mag Lime of which I have little knowledge, as I think Tideswell area stuff is >1 hour too.
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Good weekend for an actual lime calling, this one :2thumbsup:
I took my t shirt off for climbing today
I guess lime would be reasonable
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I guess Launch Control at Kilnsey it the line of weakness from a sit, whereas a lot of the other hard things there are blinkers on. Kilnsey from south Leeds in an hour would require a very decent run too.
Even Launch Control is massively eliminate!
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Good weekend for an actual lime calling, this one :2thumbsup:
I took my t shirt off for climbing today
I guess lime would be reasonable
Crikey, you must run a lot hotter than me. I was bouldering on quarried grit on Saturday and had to use a hand warmer (admittedly it was in the shade)! Today at Anston felt more temperate but I still wrapped up in a duvet jacket between attempts!
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Good weekend for an actual lime calling, this one :2thumbsup:
I took my t shirt off for climbing today
I guess lime would be reasonable
Crikey, you must run a lot hotter than me. I was bouldering on quarried grit on Saturday and had to use a hand warmer (admittedly it was in the shade)! Today at Anston felt more temperate but I still wrapped up in a duvet jacket between attempts!
Pottering on easy routes at Burbage North.
I was wearing jeans though.
Denim is always hot
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I'm tempted to try this lime thing too this year. Still bouldering though. Please could someone recommend me a good problem that meets the following criteria:
Within 1 hour of South Leeds
7C-7C+ ish (maybe 8A if its not actually 8A at 6'2)
Not too conditions dependent(that's the point isn't it?)
Sustained rather than cruxy (also the point of lime?)
Reasonably skin friendly
Absolute bonus points if it also:
Is actually a line
Stay dry / dries quickly
Midnight Caller and Hard Call at Earth Quarry.
Definitely a line and tops out.
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I'm tempted to try this lime thing too this year
Just a thought; if you've never climbed on lime before remember it is very different to grit. My own experience was having climbed a few 7Cs and a 7C+ on grit and in Font, and then getting utterly shut down on the mag lime at Anston Stones. Only just about managed the 7As!
Obviously it may suit you more than it did me but thought I'd say. All the lower 7s are also well worth doing too, would be a shame to miss them.
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I'm tempted to try this lime thing too this year
Just a thought; if you've never climbed on lime before remember it is very different to grit. My own experience was having climbed a few 7Cs and a 7C+ on grit and in Font, and then getting utterly shut down on the mag lime at Anston Stones. Only just about managed the 7As!
In my first couple of years at uni I was climbing about 7B+/C on the grit and about 7A/+ on the lime... nowadays I climb about the same level on the grit but my lime grade went up by a whole number grade or more... climbing's a funny thing innit!
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climbing's a funny thing innit!
Haha absolutely! Lots of respect to everyone who manages to be well rounded in all the different styles and rock types, it's not easy!
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climbing's a funny thing innit!
Haha absolutely! Lots of respect to everyone who manages to be well rounded in all the different styles and rock types, it's not easy!
I'm weak in many ways, and on all rock types, does that earn your respect?
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Well that's not true, but your commitment to self-deprecation is certainly impressive.
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Ebola and Resonate at Anston Stones.
Thanks, these look very typical of lime (board-like with raw finger strength requirements) and should go on my list. Plenty of easier stuff to go at there too.
The two North Yorks lime problems that fit your criteria (Matador at Attermire and Ribtickler at Goyden) are more like 1hr30 from South Leeds, and Attermire requires a bit of a walk in too.
These 2 problems look excellent, particularly matador. A bit far for evening hits but noted as rainproof venues.
Midnight Caller and Hard Call at Earth Quarry.
Definitely a line and tops out.
Wow, this looks more like a gritstone problem! Definitely high on the list. I also did a bit more digging in the nearby area and found light worker and the hagg at levitt hagg, which look great too. I doubt these would get me strong like Anston but far more inspiring to me in the short-term.
Just a thought; if you've never climbed on lime before remember it is very different to grit. My own experience was having climbed a few 7Cs and a 7C+ on grit and in Font, and then getting utterly shut down on the mag lime at Anston Stones. Only just about managed the 7As!
Obviously it may suit you more than it did me but thought I'd say. All the lower 7s are also well worth doing too, would be a shame to miss them.
I suspect you might be right as I'm about where you were in terms of grades on grit back then.
Please could anyone provide approach beta for Lobwell wood (PM if needs be)? Source of Secrets looks very good. Kenzoku looks outrageously good for people better than me.
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In my first couple of years at uni I was climbing about 7B+/C on the grit and about 7A/+ on the lime... nowadays I climb about the same level on the grit but my lime grade went up by a whole number grade or more... climbing's a funny thing innit!
Scrittle rewards talent,
choss rewards training.
#stereotypes ;-)
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Scrittle rewards luck,
choss rewards training.
#stereotypes ;-)
Fixed that for you
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Scrittle rewards luck,
choss rewards a lack of aesthetic sensibility and a high boredom threshold.
#stereotypes ;-)
Fixed that for you
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A late call but I've been busy having too much fun out on the lime already!
I went for a climb down Chee Dale today. A lot of hopefully climbers walked past dogs dinner to the cornice but to no avail as I soon saw them returning back! Not quite cornice season!
On my drive back I'm sure I saw a crow carrying a tortoise over raven tor! Or maybe it was a raven...who knows.
Any way see you guys at the lime :punk: :dance1:
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Well this is a surprise, an unusually sensible and seemingly timely call!!
Still, I look forward to an inevitable cold snap sometime soon....
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Was just thinking, even Fiend couldn't argue with that call.
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I saw a crow carrying a tortoise over raven tor! Or maybe it was a raven...who knows.
Why would a crow carry a raven? You sure it wasn't a swallow carrying a coconut?
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African or European swallow?
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Joking aside, on my allotment this evening a fucking massive raven flew in, landed quite close to me and started to give me the beady eye. It was almost like it was trying to say something to me, something like "why are you here, the lime is dry!"
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African or European swallow?
African swallows are non-migratory
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You sure it wasn't a swallow carrying a coconut?
I feel like if this forum had two SA Chrises then the other one would be making a “lime in the coconut” joke now ;).
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I haven’t got rid of my long running finger injury and think I’ve got a brand new shoulder injury to rehab but we sayin? I’m sensing an earlier call this year.
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I haven’t got rid of my long running finger injury and think I’ve got a brand new shoulder injury to rehab but we sayin? I’m sensing an earlier call this year.
Tomorrow looks to be one of the best days on grit - plus didn’t we have snow in April last three years?
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Dang, I’ll have to hit the ibuprofen and try some shizzle on my perma fuck right shoulder then.
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I haven’t got rid of my long running finger injury and think I’ve got a brand new shoulder injury to rehab but we sayin? I’m sensing an earlier call this year.
Tomorrow looks to be one of the best days on grit - plus didn’t we have snow in April last three years?
The lime call has nothing to do with grit connies though, and vice versa.
Been pretty wet recently though and more on the way next week so can't imagine it's imminent.
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Whilst your assertion is entirely true bradders it also implies that people climb on grit during limestone season and vice Versa.
This of course could not be true as it would obviously be a great heresy.
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O caller, caller wherefore art thou caller?
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It's deffo limetime
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O caller, caller wherefore art thou caller?
Hasn't the caller migrated north?
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Is Paint it Black dry?
I didn’t think so
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Is Paint it Black dry?
I didn’t think so
Might as well wait for the Wye to dry up!
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The lime call has nothing to do with grit connies though, and vice versa.
This is only half right as while the lime call seems to be solely based on how psyched the caller is for limestone bouldering the grit call has always been decided on a set of criteria (https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,9897.msg162432.html#msg162432) and one of them is that the limestone is wet.
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No it isn't.
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Oh yes it is!
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An absent lime caller?, will the calling of the lime ever give us the consistency we crave ?
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An absent lime caller?, will the calling of the lime ever give us the consistency we crave ?
I vote we install a weather station at the tor, then after x consecutive days of the correct conditions then the lime is called. I feel this scientific approach is the perfect antidote to the tea leaves, crows with the head of a quail etc. approach taken by the scrittle fettlers.
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I mean, it's a sign...right? https://gripped.com/news/will-bosi-climbing-another-new-v15/
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No it isn't.
Are you referring to different criteria in posts like this (https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,9897.msg668552.html#msg668552) then?
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It’s more than simple box ticking cheque. There are criteria but they merely point the way to the “feeling”.
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No it isn't.
Are you referring to different criteria in posts like this (https://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,9897.msg668552.html#msg668552) then?
Read your own link. Bonjoy was only guessing, could only guess. The five are never revealed together.
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:lol: Can’t believe I just got “read your own link”ed :spank: like in those politics threads. I’d always thought Bonjoy came up with the criteria to be honest. Hopefully I won’t be abducted at night by figures in hooded robes for admitting that.
Still, it’s always a good sign when there’s bickering in these Calling threads- usually signals pleasant weather when it’s nice to climb wherever you fancy.
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I suspect that the total lack of a coherent process for Lime calling points to the fact that the lime should never be called and is never "in"... :tease:
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I suspect that the total lack of a coherent process for Lime calling points to the fact that the lime should never be called and is never "in"... :tease:
On the contrary, it’s an indication that The Lime is always “in”. It’s the funny brown stuff that needs ‘conditions’. :tease:
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O caller, caller wherefore art thou caller?
Hasn't the caller migrated north?
To the epicentre of Yorkshire scrittle and seems to have had a whale of a time on it.
As usual the whole thing is as disgracefully craptastic as the climbing medium itself. A call is obviously, if reluctantly needed, but where is the fossil-fondler "in charge"?? :chair:
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Is a new appointment in order ?
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And Lo - it was fortold that a botched call would herald 40 days of rain and the WCJ Cornice being a waterfall until way after midsummer! (remember the Dobbin incident!!).....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2636796
Repent ye sinners!!
For God's sake somebody call it...
I vote Shark be made defacto caller as he's permanetly ensconced under Ben's roof!!
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Lime beckons us forth,
As spring breathes life to the rocks,
Climbers heed its call.
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There's plenty of shady, non-sharp grit to climb in warm weather, just as there's lots of sharp, condensation-prone lime that i'd only want to pull on in winter. I've tried 100% grit winters and 100% lime summers in the past, but now I feel that it's better just going by feel and the particular venue/problem :shrug:
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Heathen. This is not the way
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Lime beckons us forth,
As spring breathes life to the rocks,
Climbers heed its call.
And it was written - Hopefully that wasn't a knee jerk reaction and we've averted the biblical deluge.... Watch those tendons folks! :dance1:
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I assume you were at Hawkcliffe yesterday Liam, some climbers car was parked there don't know many other people going! It was really good conditions last night! I hope you did your remaining projects as its lime season now! :P :lol:
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Correct, although I was doing more cleaning and gluing (Fullwood approved kit) than climbing last night. I must have seen you walking out as I saw two climbers leaving in the distance.
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and we've averted the biblical deluge....
Reading this while watching torrential rain come down in Leeds :lol:
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and we've averted the biblical deluge....
Reading this while watching torrential rain come down in Leeds :lol:
Well quite... The next 2 weeks look monumentally shit... I'm not worried yet - yet!
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exactly, perfect timing to shelter under some grotty limestone roofs while the grit is wet
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and we've averted the biblical deluge....
Reading this while watching torrential rain come down in Leeds :lol:
The perfect call. Insofar as anything associated with lime, and it's calling, can be considered good.
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Utterly shit grit season, the wettest February on record, and Tom Cruise spotted at the south Peak quarries .. early call to put us out of our misery ?
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I really enjoyed Froggatt yesterday evening.
I was dithering whether to go there or to Roche Abbey right up until the last minute. In the end it was perfect conditions and I bumped into a great group of people there.
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:-\ :whistle:
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Quite... If we're going to avoid another deluge :'(.
Caller??
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May the 4th be with you
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Well that was this shittest grit season on record for me. I had a desperate finial last effort hail mary on my project late one night this week but it was way too warm. Don't think I managed a single boulder of significance to me this winter on the grit.
Anyway I'm glad that's over now. Absolutely frothing for kilnsey and Malham this year. went for a walk up gordale scar and around to malham and sure enough all the signs were there of a golden season. (surely it can't keep raining for ever!) anyway I'll be going to Raven Tor on Sunday for the anual pilgramage of the calling. See you there!
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Went to Two Tier today. The walk-in was muddy and slippy and I'd forgotten to change out of my previously clean skater shoes. Despite being completely dry there was still plenty of mud and toxic slime at the back of breaks and slots. Meanwhile everything else had that weird layer of limestone dust that has a slight texture but spits you off as soon as you pull hard. Well, everything else apart from the occasional slick polished bit. It was all desperate, steeper than it looked, most holds were either blind, or faced the wrong way, or both. I managed two routes in the whole day. One was a retroed E4 6a that I had to properly work and redpoint and still could have randomly slipped off the crux. The other was a F6c+ that was a convoluted dusty pumpy nightmare that I only managed to beta-flash due to precise hold locating by Mark20. And my shoulder hurt again after being mostly manageable for two weeks.
All in, a perfect call, well done Hadyn :clap2: