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Title: Thermal wellies
Post by: dunnyg on November 28, 2021, 03:54:24 pm
Anyone got any recommendations for insulated wellies. Winter has arrived and I'm sick of cold toes already.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Fultonius on November 28, 2021, 04:09:23 pm
https://images.app.goo.gl/adSpffk77qFheXaW9
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Will Hunt on November 28, 2021, 04:22:26 pm
I've got a fleece lined pair that I was gifted (well, wellies with a removable fleece insert). I think the proper ones can get spenny as they're all marketed at Horse and Hound types.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: BrutusTheBear on November 28, 2021, 05:15:01 pm
I bought some Decathlon snow hiking boots last year £35.  Wore them with thin socks in -3c on the Moor this week, feet still roast toasty. Best purchase ever!
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: James Malloch on November 28, 2021, 05:15:32 pm
They’re not cheap but these were one of the best £150 I ever spent (or very similar pair). They have proper soles and I can easily have them for a full day out with the dog.

I never realised footwear could be so warm, and I expect them to last years and years…

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/neoprene-lined-warm-winter-wellies/_/R-p-X8570786?mc=8570786&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=SurfacesForGoogle&utm_content=8570786-2974735&&iv_=__iv_p_1_g_118516964768_c_478903077098_w_pla-329717981262_n_g_d_m_v__l__t__r_x_pla_y_15177021_f_online_o_8570786-2974735_z_GB_i_en_j_329717981262_s__e__h_1007078_ii__vi__&gclid=Cj0KCQiA7oyNBhDiARIsADtGRZZZAZthvtSjwUMftPQDGVT5PakWvAoILQOPRuMhTWrBJOcAuNSz0PoaApzcEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 28, 2021, 05:16:46 pm
I picked up an excellent pair in the centre aisle of Lidl a couple of years ago. Neoprene and very warm, possibly worth a glance to see if they’re available again this year, as I think they cost me £20 ish.

The brand is “Crane”
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: moose on November 28, 2021, 05:25:11 pm
I've got a pair of Aigle Parcours 2 -Siberia boots for long winter walk-ins - neoprene and fake fur lined for warmth - also designed to be good for walking long distances in.  I've really liked them for walks to Crookrise etc - and I tend to get very cold feet (unfortunately they don't magically prevent it from raining).  Pricey though - they're handmade in France and mainly aimed at hunters.   

Muck Boots are highly rated, including by my Mum.  I got her a pair of the women's equivalent of these as a belated Christmas present last year, after she made such a fuss over my Aigles.  I couldn't find a pair of those for her and these seemed the nearest thing.  They do lots of other cold weather models, and you often find special offers.

https://muckbootcompany.co.uk/collections/men/products/mens-outpost-tall-wellington-black (https://muckbootcompany.co.uk/collections/men/products/mens-outpost-tall-wellington-black)
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: moose on November 28, 2021, 05:30:41 pm
They’re not cheap but these were one of the best £150 I ever spent (or very similar pair). They have proper soles and I can easily have them for a full day out with the dog.

I never realised footwear could be so warm, and I expect them to last years and years…

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/neoprene-lined-warm-winter-wellies/_/R-p-X8570786?mc=8570786&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=SurfacesForGoogle&utm_content=8570786-2974735&&iv_=__iv_p_1_g_118516964768_c_478903077098_w_pla-329717981262_n_g_d_m_v__l__t__r_x_pla_y_15177021_f_online_o_8570786-2974735_z_GB_i_en_j_329717981262_s__e__h_1007078_ii__vi__&gclid=Cj0KCQiA7oyNBhDiARIsADtGRZZZAZthvtSjwUMftPQDGVT5PakWvAoILQOPRuMhTWrBJOcAuNSz0PoaApzcEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

They look very similar to the wellies I wear - another Aigle Parcours 2 variant.  I think yours have a slightly thicker neoprene lining but without the fake fur. 
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: dunnyg on November 28, 2021, 05:32:10 pm
Oof. They look toasty but I'm looking more for the Lidl middle isle or equivalent budget!
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: cheque on November 28, 2021, 05:34:45 pm
These seem popular. (https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/men-s-warm-waterproof-snow-hiking-boots-sh100-x-warm/_/R-p-108105)
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 28, 2021, 05:45:21 pm
These are the ones.

 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Neoprene-Wellington-Field-Fishing-Boots-Wellies-Ladies-Mens-Womans-Black-UK-11-/115101967818?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338268676&toolid=10044&customid=Cj0KCQiA7oyNBhDiARIsADtGRZZMcHAHqhrA6ZJmNxpFK5JLqFlCusQ3MQtYPTdsRSGmfAv5FqKm55caAkt_EALw_wcB (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Neoprene-Wellington-Field-Fishing-Boots-Wellies-Ladies-Mens-Womans-Black-UK-11-/115101967818?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338268676&toolid=10044&customid=Cj0KCQiA7oyNBhDiARIsADtGRZZMcHAHqhrA6ZJmNxpFK5JLqFlCusQ3MQtYPTdsRSGmfAv5FqKm55caAkt_EALw_wcB)

Really good, if you can find them in the right size. But a quick Google throws up several similar makes/types. Buy a half size up and some fleece socks/liners?

I still prefer my Decathlon lace up/high leg snow boots for any rough ground walk-in stuff. Even un-laced for quick change. Old now and long extinct as a model, but there’s bound to be an equivalent.

I reckon these are pretty close:
 https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/men-s-warm-waterproof-snow-hiking-boots-sh500-x-warm-lace/_/R-p-324022?mc=8579495&c=BLACK (https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/men-s-warm-waterproof-snow-hiking-boots-sh500-x-warm-lace/_/R-p-324022?mc=8579495&c=BLACK)
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: petejh on November 28, 2021, 05:51:25 pm
 Sorells are good and popular in Canada, but pricey.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: lagerstarfish on November 28, 2021, 06:01:03 pm
I got a barely used pair of Sorells off eBay a couple of years ago.
Awesome.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: dunnyg on November 28, 2021, 06:36:01 pm
I used to have some snow boots, but think they are somewhere in california now  :wavecry:
Full length wellies would be useful for the inevitable bog trogging on the moors. I'd love some mega fancy ones, but I'm too tight.
Came across this (also available from other shops)
https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/15899728/dunlop-dlp-m-blizzard-15899728
Looked worth a do? Doubt I will be out below -15 trying to boulder, and I've got some B3s for that sort of temps. Has the bonus of me be able to try some on at some point too, saving some potential faff.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: BrutusTheBear on November 28, 2021, 06:44:39 pm
I have these ones...  https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/men-s-warm-waterproof-snow-hiking-boots-sh500-x-warm-zip/_/R-p-176643?mc=8505390&c=GREY
Probably not as good for longer walks through snow etc. as the lace ups but the primary purpose is to keep my feet warm on bouldering missions in the winter and they are more than adequate for this.  Quick on and off too which again is great for bouldering. 
DG I feel your pain and certainly don't have £100s to spend on wellies! However, any insulated boot (even the cheapest models) are going to increase comfort levels massively.  Lidl's/ Aldi often have bargain snow boots that will do the trick.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: BrutusTheBear on November 28, 2021, 06:49:31 pm
On the other hand...  8)  https://sneakerstudio.com/product-eng-16848-Moon-Boot-Vinile-Met-14021400-003.html
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: remus on November 28, 2021, 06:50:10 pm
I've got a pair of the £15 decathlon ones and they're ace, swear by 'em. I did have to invest in a pair of insoles though as they were pretty uncomfortable for longer walks. Plenty of notes left over for that though, and think mine have been going for 3+ years so far and still going strong as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: dunnyg on November 28, 2021, 07:08:25 pm
Those moon boots look lush. I could wear them next time I go watch strictly at wills and moonwalk round his living room, as well as being the best dressed at any Yorkshire grit crag.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: teestub on November 28, 2021, 07:36:24 pm
Went for these Nokian ones (from Finland so they know about bogs and cold), good and warm with a proper hiking boot style sole. The little elastic gater at the top is also handy for stopping twigs and other crap getting in your wellies if you're on an off piste approach.

https://www.jmcaleer.com/product-detail?prodref=45335&description=nokian
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: petejh on November 28, 2021, 07:46:21 pm
Btw if anyone has old boots and doesn't want to buy new wellies but would like a warmth boost in winter the heated insoles / heated socks from in-motion are really good.  https://www.motionheat.ca/

They also do gloves, vests etc. And scooters. Battery tech is really coming along, hopefully won't be too much longer until graphene aluminium batteries hit the market which mean we'll have charge times 60x faster and 3x the power density of lithium. Will be loads of ready-break people walking around the hills.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Paul B on November 29, 2021, 10:47:07 am
Btw if anyone has old boots and doesn't want to buy new wellies but would like a warmth boost in winter the heated insoles / heated socks from in-motion are really good.  https://www.motionheat.ca/

On the cheaper end of the scale you can also get welly liners from any PPE stockist.

Nat got a pair of TNF fake fur lined boots on a FB buy/sell group a few years ago as they didn't fit the buyer who sold them on for very little £. They look pretty epic TBH:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144244120581?hash=item21959e9c05:g:mFgAAOSwxSdhZYog
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: dunnyg on November 29, 2021, 11:32:01 am
Looks like you are trying to get on the cover of London climber with those bad boys
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: mark20 on November 29, 2021, 11:46:12 am
These seem popular. (https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/men-s-warm-waterproof-snow-hiking-boots-sh100-x-warm/_/R-p-108105)
These ones are pretty warm and waterproof but have a fairly thin and bendy sole - I got a huge thorn through my foot in them.
I'm currently on a pair of these (https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/men-s-warm-waterproof-hiking-boots-sh100-ultra-warm-zip/_/R-p-311993?mc=8558224&c=BLACK) which have a proper walking boot sole and build, and seem decent
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: dunnyg on November 29, 2021, 11:51:17 am
Toasty in the snow?
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Paul B on November 29, 2021, 11:59:25 am
These seem popular. (https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/men-s-warm-waterproof-snow-hiking-boots-sh100-x-warm/_/R-p-108105)

I have these myself for general dog walking duties in the snow (because let's face it, that's very cheap). They're OK but longer wellies are better for tucking in trousers.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Will Hunt on November 29, 2021, 12:07:58 pm
Do people not own walking boots any more?
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: petejh on November 29, 2021, 12:08:15 pm
I love how ESG-conscious climbers are raving about the price and utility of their cheap boots made from oil-industry by-products, manufactured by SE Asian labour working under opaque labour terms and conditions.  :lol:
Not a criticism, just an observation.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Paul B on November 29, 2021, 12:12:17 pm
I love how ESG-conscious climbers are raving about the price and utility of their cheap boots made from oil-industry by-products, manufactured by SE Asian labour working under opaque labour terms and conditions.  :lol:
Not a criticism, just an observation.

Guilty / conflicted (and after the weekend I'm looking longingly at my neighbour's whopping great big pick-up).
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: dunnyg on November 29, 2021, 12:13:27 pm
I do own walking boots, but they are a bit fucked and soon reach their limit walk through bogs
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: BrutusTheBear on November 29, 2021, 12:34:35 pm
I love how ESG-conscious climbers are raving about the price and utility of their cheap boots made from oil-industry by-products, manufactured by SE Asian labour working under opaque labour terms and conditions.  :lol:
Not a criticism, just an observation.
. System change not climate change!  Individual action vs. the need to holistically change systems to affect the level of change required.  It is the classic critique of environmentalists to point out the hypocrisy of their individual actions without accounting for the system they live in. Besides which the additional fossil fuel burned in order to reheat my pinky toes is offset by the boots.  He said desperately trying to justify his actions.  :lol:   I am now searching, unfruitfully, for  a local, plant based snow boot factories with a worker's cooperative.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: teestub on November 29, 2021, 12:40:09 pm
I love how ESG-conscious climbers are raving about the price and utility of their cheap boots made from oil-industry by-products, manufactured by SE Asian labour working under opaque labour terms and conditions.  :lol:
Not a criticism, just an observation.

Mine are made in Europe and are 14001 and 9001 accredited https://www.nokianfootwear.com/a-responsible-choice/ 🏅
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: teestub on November 29, 2021, 12:42:57 pm
Do people not own walking boots any more?

I think walking boots are a poor choice compared to a welly for boggy or snowy approaches, as you just end up with muddy or wet trousers, unless you are going for a gater too, at which point you may as well get the red socks and compass out and leave the pads at home!

That’s putting aside the care required to keep leather boots in good nick.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: petejh on November 29, 2021, 12:55:49 pm
I love how ESG-conscious climbers are raving about the price and utility of their cheap boots made from oil-industry by-products, manufactured by SE Asian labour working under opaque labour terms and conditions.  :lol:
Not a criticism, just an observation.

Mine are made in Europe and are 14001 and 9001 accredited https://www.nokianfootwear.com/a-responsible-choice/ 🏅

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: mark20 on November 29, 2021, 04:19:20 pm
These seem popular. (https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/men-s-warm-waterproof-snow-hiking-boots-sh100-x-warm/_/R-p-108105)
These ones are pretty warm and waterproof but have a fairly thin and bendy sole - I got a huge thorn through my foot in them.
I'm currently on a pair of these (https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/men-s-warm-waterproof-hiking-boots-sh100-ultra-warm-zip/_/R-p-311993?mc=8558224&c=BLACK) which have a proper walking boot sole and build, and seem decent
Toasty in the snow?

Well, I've just got back from a walk in the £30 decathlon wellies, and though I was warm I do have slightly damp feet.That might be a bit of snow going down them, but I have noticed this before on a really long boggy walk. I suspect the cheaper ones are more waterproof as they have the plastic that goes most of the way up, rather than just the 'waterproof membrane'. I'd say if you want something for typical grit bouldering crags then the cheaper ones would be the best bet, just don't expect them to very comfortable or durable for mega long walks over the moors.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Steve R on November 29, 2021, 07:56:28 pm
These seem popular. (https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/men-s-warm-waterproof-snow-hiking-boots-sh100-x-warm/_/R-p-108105)
Also did a long snowy hike in a pair of these ESG Decathlon booties today.  Second season with them, feet remained warm and dry throughout.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: petejh on November 29, 2021, 10:39:48 pm
Also did a long snowy hike in a pair of these ESG Decathlon booties today.  Second season with them, feet remained warm and dry throughout.

That'll be the warmth emanating up from the place in climate hell being prepared for you...
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: SA Chris on November 30, 2021, 12:21:49 am
I love how ESG-conscious climbers are raving about the price and utility of their cheap boots made from oil-industry by-products, manufactured by SE Asian labour working under opaque labour terms and conditions.  :lol:
Not a criticism, just an observation.

But climbing shoes are OK right?
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Duma on November 30, 2021, 01:11:26 am
Also did a long snowy hike in a pair of these ESG Decathlon booties today.  Second season with them, feet remained warm and dry throughout.

That'll be the warmth emanating up from the place in climate hell being prepared for you...
Fuck off Pete, it was barely amusing the first time.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: petejh on November 30, 2021, 10:01:32 am
Fair enough! You could have said the same thing without the ‘fuck off’ you know.

(it was only a joke you know.. even if a bit crap, dunno why you’re so unhappy)
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Duma on November 30, 2021, 10:08:39 am
True, apologies. I was in a foul mood last night but that's no excuse.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: petejh on November 30, 2021, 10:12:04 am
No worries.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: peewee on November 30, 2021, 03:02:20 pm
I have these https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bekina-Steplite-Wellington-Wellies-Insulated/dp/B0747PKL56 provided by work albeit in bright orange, great in the mud and for walking around in rivers, used them a lot for personal use too although they arent the best for long walk they stay toasty with some wooly socks.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: shark on December 01, 2021, 09:42:37 am
Fuck off Pete, it was barely amusing the first time.

Please dial down the abuse even for those who can take it. Thanks

Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 01, 2021, 10:47:26 am
Do people not own walking boots any more?

yes, but they don't want to look like hill walkers on their Insta pics
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Bonjoy on December 01, 2021, 04:54:49 pm
I use wellies a lot. Rather than spend big bucks I look for the cheapest available wellies with a good sole and then use fleece wellie socks/liners for warmth e.g  https://www.soletrader.co.uk/joules-fleece-welly-socks/jl4660kh?gclid=Cj0KCQiA15yNBhDTARIsAGnwe0WEGdlg4PNF9MqaadnI3lex4ViH3WjJnm5iog-kBEShz5ahv8shsrgaAmXVEALw_wcB

For me the sole is massively important. Lots of wellies, including most expensive neoprene/fleece lined ones have shit soles. Not what you want when you're teetering around on wet/snowy/icy Rock with a cumbersome pad full of kit on your back.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: shark on December 01, 2021, 06:59:23 pm
Bizarrely they only do women’s welly socks with the large size only going up to 8
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: Bonjoy on December 01, 2021, 08:49:40 pm
I picked mine up at a farm suppliers. They're massive.
Title: Re: Thermal wellies
Post by: SA Chris on December 02, 2021, 07:57:24 am
Most farm suppliers are ;)
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