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Title: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: cofe on April 07, 2011, 09:38:13 am: I won't get my hopes up. (http://www.nme.com/news/the-stone-roses/55962)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: SA Chris on April 07, 2011, 09:44:06 am: Just over two years since the last time the rumourmill said similar

http://www.nme.com/news/the-stone-roses/43494 (http://www.nme.com/news/the-stone-roses/43494)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Serpico on April 07, 2011, 07:40:05 pm: Mani reckons not. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-13006754)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: andy popp on April 07, 2011, 08:52:42 pm: Quote from: Serpico on April 07, 2011, 07:40:05 pm
Mani reckons not. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-13006754)

Let's hope he's right.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on April 07, 2011, 10:28:41 pm: Really? I'd love to see them play live again. Its a criminal waste of talent having Reni and John not playing for the last ten years.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Falling Down on April 07, 2011, 10:49:00 pm: I have mixed feelings. I saw Ian Brown at Platt Fields last year and he was brilliant, much, much better than expected and totally at ease with his music and performance. I also saw The Seahorses several years ago, again excellent and The Stone Roses before that who were of course fantastic but very much a product of their time (I was 19 :???:). I must to leaning toward John Squire's opinion of letting sleeping dogs lie but on the other hand what a great night it would be. :devangel:

(By contrast and totally nostalgic, I bought tickets to see Adam Ant in June who has not only got on the straight and narrow but is also kicking critics heads in playing a selection of pre-Kings of the Wild Frontier tunes from Dirk Wears White Sox and the early singles. :punk:)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: andy popp on April 07, 2011, 11:00:31 pm: Quote from: Johnny Brown on April 07, 2011, 10:28:41 pm
Really? I'd love to see them play live again. Its a criminal waste of talent having Reni and John not playing for the last ten years.

Well, I was being flippant but I also have to admit that I never rated them. If Reni and John wanted to do something over the last ten years who was stopping them? What would a reunion add? Plus, I was at Spike Island (get me!).
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: cofe on October 18, 2011, 03:14:33 pm: BOOM! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15348374)

(http://static.nme.com/images/gallery/102830387Getty171011.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 18, 2011, 03:20:04 pm: "I didn't think I could do it... It was like everest" Reni

"Show me the mountain and I will climb it" Mani

"We'll ride it until the wheels fall off" Ian Brown
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: cofe on October 18, 2011, 03:25:07 pm: (http://cdn.thestoneroses.org/_graphics/photo.jpg)

http://www.thestoneroses.org/ (http://www.thestoneroses.org/)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: SA Chris on October 18, 2011, 03:33:19 pm: Is it really really going to happen this time?
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 18, 2011, 03:36:44 pm: Been a while since I bought the NME.

(https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_background_images/348559156/NMECoverStoneRosesTwtWlpr181011.jpg)

I reckon they're pretty committed now.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Mike Tyson on October 18, 2011, 03:43:45 pm: Fantastic!
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 18, 2011, 04:51:16 pm: (http://static.nme.com/images/gallery/129540904Getty181011.jpg)

Colour is a bit less kind, spot the one who didn't have a few years off!
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: andy popp on October 18, 2011, 04:59:05 pm: I never said I didn't enjoy Spike Island Adam, :whistle:
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 18, 2011, 05:25:36 pm: Ahh well, the clean slate couldn't last for ever. Still jealous, was the sound really shit?

Good to hear Reni cheeky as ever:
Stone Roses reunion press conference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdQ_jx7Qe_k#ws)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Pantontino on October 18, 2011, 05:27:57 pm: John Robb let slip on Jarvis's 6Music show on Sunday, then tried to back pedal. Quite funny.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on October 18, 2011, 05:29:00 pm: Quote from: cofe on October 18, 2011, 03:25:07 pm
(http://cdn.thestoneroses.org/_graphics/photo.jpg)

http://www.thestoneroses.org/ (http://www.thestoneroses.org/)

Quote
URL: http://www.thestoneroses.org/ (http://www.thestoneroses.org/)

Reason: This Websense category is filtered: Potentially Damaging Content.

Is this a omen?
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 19, 2011, 08:47:03 am: The Stone Roses Press Conference - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6itFMuO6Os#ws)

The Stone Roses Press Conference - Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZrvvxeYGYE#ws)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Bubba on October 19, 2011, 09:07:42 am: Quote from: Johnny Brown on October 18, 2011, 04:51:16 pm
(http://static.nme.com/images/gallery/129540904Getty181011.jpg)

Colour is a bit less kind, spot the one who didn't have a few years off!
Spot the one who doesn't look like a bad extra from Planet of The Apes.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Dolly on October 19, 2011, 10:01:58 am: Is this a still from that book "How to have sex in public without anyone noticing ?"
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: rc on October 19, 2011, 10:05:10 am: The "Manchester T-shirt vendors" even made it into the mash (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-%26-entertainment/stone-roses-confirm-gig-cancellations-201110194437/)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: aLICErOBERTSfANkLUB on October 19, 2011, 07:15:44 pm: So kids, who's still doing drugs?

(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01393/Stone-Roses_532_1393241a.jpg)

20 years later:

(http://www.scotsman.com/webimage/stone_roses_reform_1_1916733!image/2389655034.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_595/2389655034.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 19, 2011, 07:55:43 pm: Fifty-five quid. FIFTY-FIVE FUCKIN QUID!!!!!
Title: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: cofe on October 19, 2011, 08:10:56 pm: He'd better do the guitar swap on Tears!
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 19, 2011, 08:22:30 pm: Quote from: Johnny Brown on October 19, 2011, 07:55:43 pm
Fifty-five quid. FIFTY-FIVE FUCKIN QUID!!!!!
That's what i'm struggling with. And monkey man sings flat.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 19, 2011, 08:24:10 pm: You're telling me! He'll need to do it, ooh, twice.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: rich d on October 21, 2011, 10:19:59 am: 150,000 tickets sold out in 14mins. that's 45mins of pressing refresh that I'll never get back of my life.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on October 21, 2011, 10:23:22 am: :2thumbsup:
Tics for the Sat.

Tics for the Sunday still available, i can get on easily now
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Stabbsy on October 21, 2011, 10:25:06 am: There still seems to be tickets on gigsandtours website. And they've added a third date. I've managed to get a couple.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: rich d on October 21, 2011, 10:30:09 am: you bastards been trying solidly from 9.30 still can't get on
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on October 21, 2011, 10:35:29 am: Quote from: rich d on October 21, 2011, 10:30:09 am
you bastards been trying solidly from 9.30 still can't get on

Try
http://www.seetickets.com/Event/THE-STONE-ROSES/Heaton-Park/597542 (http://www.seetickets.com/Event/THE-STONE-ROSES/Heaton-Park/597542)

http://gigsandtours.seetickets.com/Event/THE-STONE-ROSES/HEATON-PARK/597542/?aff=gigsandt (http://gigsandtours.seetickets.com/Event/THE-STONE-ROSES/HEATON-PARK/597542/?aff=gigsandt)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 21, 2011, 10:38:37 am: There are shops etc on twitter saying they've got some left too.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on October 21, 2011, 10:39:30 am: https://www.ticketline.co.uk/order/tickets/13263785/the-stone-roses-manchester-heaton-park-2012-07-01-15-30-00 (https://www.ticketline.co.uk/order/tickets/13263785/the-stone-roses-manchester-heaton-park-2012-07-01-15-30-00)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on October 21, 2011, 10:39:57 am: Quote from: Johnny Brown on October 21, 2011, 10:38:37 am
There are shops etc on twitter saying they've got some left too.

Did you get some JB?
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 21, 2011, 10:45:12 am: Yeah, for Saturday. Cofe too, should be a good night! :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: cofe on October 21, 2011, 10:49:37 am: BIG SATURDAY. For one night only, I'm going to be a pissed up teenager again.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on October 21, 2011, 10:51:24 am: Hell Yeah! Got some for CLM too, see ya there.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on October 21, 2011, 10:51:44 am: Quote from: cofe on October 21, 2011, 10:49:37 am
BIG SATURDAY. For one night only, I'm going to be a pissed up teenager again.
[like]
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: north_country_boy on October 21, 2011, 11:13:50 am: Quote from: mrjonathanr on October 19, 2011, 08:22:30 pm
Quote from: Johnny Brown on October 19, 2011, 07:55:43 pm
Fifty-five quid. FIFTY-FIVE FUCKIN QUID!!!!!
That's what i'm struggling with. And monkey man sings flat.

As much as I have waited/prayed for this day for many years, now it has actually come around, the potential for it to be a massive disappointment has overpowered my will to try and get tickets. I hope (especially for everyone who has got tickets) that the Ian that turns up is not the one I saw 3 years ago. To say it was bad, would be a huge understatement.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: cofe on October 21, 2011, 11:17:35 am: I bet thousands are think that, but I'm willing to take that risk. It was always John Squire I was obsessed with anyway.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 21, 2011, 11:29:47 am: Last time I saw them Ian's voice wasn't the best I've seen him do but the band transcended that. With Reni too its got the potential to go to another level. And yet Reni's was one of the few gigs I've walked out of it was so shit. The magic has always been in the mix, and its not something that can be consistently delivered. Even if they're all over the place, I'm 100% sure there will still be moments of genius that eclipse everything. If you want to see a consistent and reliable band I'd suggest Coldplay.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: cofe on October 21, 2011, 11:33:59 am: Quote from: Johnny Brown on October 21, 2011, 11:29:47 am
If you want to see a consistent and reliable band I'd suggest Coldplay.

:lol:
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Jaspersharpe on October 21, 2011, 11:34:40 am: I saw Ian Brown about 2 years ago and expected him to be pretty shit. He was surprisingly good.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Falling Down on October 21, 2011, 11:41:51 am: Me too, he was much better than I expected. Not got tickets yet for next year but hope to hear later today.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: SA Chris on October 21, 2011, 11:49:07 am: Does hospitality at a Stone Roses gig seem intrinsically wrong? Given all the variables I decided not to enter the fray and hope they do some gigs a bit closer to us.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on October 21, 2011, 11:58:29 am: Quote
Ian Brown is overjoyed, saying: "We plan on spending the rest of the day jumping up and down with our hands in the air."
Hope they get some practice in as well
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: north_country_boy on October 21, 2011, 12:03:48 pm: Quote from: Johnny Brown on October 21, 2011, 11:29:47 am
Last time I saw them Ian's voice wasn't the best I've seen him do but the band transcended that. With Reni too its got the potential to go to another level. And yet Reni's was one of the few gigs I've walked out of it was so shit. The magic has always been in the mix, and its not something that can be consistently delivered. Even if they're all over the place, I'm 100% sure there will still be moments of genius that eclipse everything. If you want to see a consistent and reliable band I'd suggest Coldplay.

Did you miss the point completely here, where did I suggest I wanted something 'consistent and reliable'?

I am a huge fan of the creative spontaneity, unpredictability and intrigue of the Roses, however I am not a fan of the tombola that is Ian Brown's vocal performance. Yes the genius of John and Reni may mask it in parts, but if you haven't seen Ian Brown live since the day heady days of the Roses, you may be in for a shock.

Hopefully he'll prove me and many others wrong, because if so I'll eat my own words.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Duma on October 21, 2011, 12:14:34 pm: I've seen IB twice since the roses, and both were great gigs.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: rich d on October 21, 2011, 12:30:38 pm: Me and one of my mates were both on all three of the official ticket sites and didn't manage to get any tickets for any of the days. Hopefully with the demand there are going to be a good number of uk gigs. I always thought that IBs vocals were the variable in the roses mix. As long as squires is on form I don't really think the vocals matter. (Not that I'll be seeing it at this rate)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 21, 2011, 01:55:02 pm: Quote
if you haven't seen Ian Brown live since the day heady days of the Roses

Four times, maybe five if you count the last one where he got dragged off stage and cancelled? No problems with his voice at any of them. In fact the Roses gig probably had the worst vocals of the lot, not that it mattered.

I hear Michael Bolton never does a bad gig, maybe an option?
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: north_country_boy on October 21, 2011, 02:31:20 pm: Is this some king of self promotion JB? Didn't realise you'd started a tribute act...

(http://www.sweetslyrics.com/images/img_gal/9455_michael-bolton-white-christmas.jpg)

Soft Rock, for the discerning gentleman. Nice.

Good luck, I'm sure you'll feel its money well spent. If he nails it, it will be. Until then, I'll hold on to my £60 until Beck tours again.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: gingerninja on October 22, 2011, 11:47:22 am: if you missed out on tickets over 2000 people bought them to try and rip you off on ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Concert-Tickets-/34814/i.html?_nkw=stone+roses&_catref=1&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Concert-Tickets-/34814/i.html?_nkw=stone+roses&_catref=1&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: mark s on October 23, 2011, 05:26:39 pm: I caught the last 2 notes of FEAR at V fest,I forgot he was on as was having a wank over heidi and the sugarbabes
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Post by: rich d on November 04, 2011, 05:35:30 pm: YYFY just got two tickets at face value through the wife's work. No idea what day it is but it doesn't matter. Need to dig out some baggy jeans, filas and a stussy hat. Get in!
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: andy popp on November 25, 2011, 11:00:37 pm: Quote from: Johnny Brown on October 18, 2011, 05:25:36 pm
Ahh well, the clean slate couldn't last for ever. Still jealous, was the sound really shit?

Only just seen this and no, it couldn't. But you don't really expect me to remember how it actually sounded do you?

I spent the whole of the Stone Roses set stood right next to Ian McCulloch without realizing it; and he wasn't exactly incognito.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Jaspersharpe on June 29, 2012, 02:08:37 pm: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/stone-roses-to-split-up-and-reform-live-on-stage-2012062932425 (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/stone-roses-to-split-up-and-reform-live-on-stage-2012062932425)
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Falling Down on June 29, 2012, 04:37:25 pm: Anyone going tomorrow? I've got a VIP ticket whatever that means...
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 29, 2012, 05:03:41 pm: Yep, I've got a couple of mates going today but there's a big crew of us going tomorrow.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Andy B on June 29, 2012, 05:12:26 pm: Hell yeah.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Obi-Wan is lost... on June 29, 2012, 05:22:24 pm: :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: slackline on July 09, 2012, 12:32:47 pm: Get your authentic 'awesome atmosphere' from Heaton Park (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18766865).
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: hongkongstuey on July 25, 2012, 06:13:29 am: they played Hong Kong l;ast night - which was nice... :dance1:
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: SA Chris on October 31, 2012, 07:57:05 am: http://www.nme.com/news/the-stone-roses/66883 (http://www.nme.com/news/the-stone-roses/66883)

Glasgow - June 15 2013 - will it be worth the bother fighting for tickets?
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 31, 2012, 11:21:16 am: YES. The last Glasgow Green show is widely regarded as their best ever. Tempted to go myself. Listened to a lot of bootlegs and it doesn't sound like they've done a bad show since the reformation.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: SA Chris on October 31, 2012, 11:26:23 am: Quote from: Johnny Brown on October 31, 2012, 11:21:16 am
The last Glasgow Green show is widely regarded as their best ever.

Yup, doesn't mean this one will. I suspect I will fight the good fight and see if I come up with anything!
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: rich d on October 31, 2012, 02:17:53 pm: I went to the Saturday gig in Manc in the summer. Was brilliant, definitely go for it.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: SA Chris on November 06, 2012, 02:50:11 pm: Tried, got fuck all. Balls. Hopefully they will add dates.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: neilslim on June 09, 2013, 06:49:38 pm: I went to the the Finsbury Park concert last night. They were superb, still buzzin now. Jonny Rotten and PIL were absolute shite though. Unsuprisingly...
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 10, 2013, 11:57:47 am: Sounds good, sad about PiL though, always liked their stuff way more than the Pistols. Not seen the Roses film yet but heard good reports.
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: rich d on June 10, 2013, 02:49:58 pm: Supposedly according to an ian brown interview they're working on new material. Who knows when that will come out though
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Johnny Brown on June 10, 2013, 03:08:35 pm: Squire told 6music they had new material but wouldn't be playing anything live until it had been recorded. I'm hoping that in the meantime they start playing a bit more of the Second Coming stuff. Best live performance I've ever seen was them doing Tears in Sheffield in '95, be nice to see it again but with Reni...
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: Falling Down on June 10, 2013, 08:26:42 pm: Quote from: Johnny Brown on June 10, 2013, 11:57:47 am
Sounds good, sad about PiL though, always liked their stuff way more than the Pistols. Not seen the Roses film yet but heard good reports.

Its not really PiL though. No Keith Levine or Jah Wobble. A bit like the Stone Roses without Reni and John Squire....
Title: Re: Finally, the resurrection...?
Post by: fried on June 10, 2013, 08:31:37 pm: There should be a limit to bands trading on their name when most of the band have left.
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Post by: Gritlad on June 10, 2013, 10:07:30 pm: The film is mint. Funny and exciting
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Post by: SA Chris on June 28, 2017, 09:58:48 pm: Finally got to see them. To be honest Ian Brown is struggling with the vocals in places these days (he was never that great let's be honest), but the rest of the band were on fine form. Primal Scream were good value as support too.

Rumoured to be last gig ever, so stoked I was there.