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Title: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 23, 2008, 11:10:50 am
What are the best packages out there for having a bash and making some techo. I use a mac so needs to be available for leopard.
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Houdini on December 23, 2008, 12:36:30 pm
Ableton Live V7.   Get a cracked version from a torrent site.  It's €400 new.  And if you haven't got near-field monitors find some excellent headphones.
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 23, 2008, 12:45:57 pm
Ableton Live V7.   Get a cracked version from a torrent site.  It's €400 new.  And if you haven't got near-field monitors find some excellent headphones.

Cool, thanks Houd. I have excellent bose headphones.
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Bubba on December 23, 2008, 01:07:44 pm
Propellerheads Reason (http://www.propellerheads.se/products/reason/) is fantastic and a lot of fun to use.

Again, find a snide copy as it's very expensive.

There is no one best package, different ones have their fans...
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: GCW on December 23, 2008, 01:11:53 pm
I like Reason, but it isn't simple to "dabble". 
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 23, 2008, 01:13:17 pm
I like Reason, but it isn't simple to "dabble". 

Haha, you know what i mean. Always fancied trying my hand, so going to have a go.

Thanks guys. Got both on download as we speak.
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: GCW on December 23, 2008, 01:15:32 pm
In was meaning it's a lot of work to get a tune out of Reason.  takes me quite a while twiddling knobs to get the sounds I want, then a while for tune and orchestration.
There's other things out there that are simpler.
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Bubba on December 23, 2008, 01:18:31 pm
I don't think Ableton is that easy to dabble in really either tbh...

For dabbling maybe things like Fruityloops might be better? What do you recommend GCW?

I've found Reason quite good for doing some basic loops and stuff - rig up a couple of Redrums and just program some drum loops - lots of fun.

Cubase is the other big package but never tried it.

There's always Rebirth (http://www.rebirthmuseum.com/) which gives you a 303, 808 and a 909 to mess about on, and is a free download :)
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: slackline on December 23, 2008, 01:24:21 pm
rig up a couple of Redrums

Now we've all seen The Shining....
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: GCW on December 23, 2008, 01:26:21 pm
Can't talk of Ableton, not used it.
ReBirth is useful and easy to get going with, if you can get hold of it (it's now bundled with Reason).
Cubase is easy to use, and with the VSTis you can bang out tunes fairly quick.  You can still import samples too, so it's a fair place to start.
Frooty Loops is another good place to start.
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: GCW on December 23, 2008, 01:28:45 pm
There's always Rebirth (http://www.rebirthmuseum.com/) which gives you a 303, 808 and a 909 to mess about on, and is a free download :)

Sorry, missed that.  That's a refill, Bubbs.  the stand alone package should be obtainable from somewhere Torrenty.  I got the original CD (look at me  :P )
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Bubba on December 23, 2008, 01:33:10 pm

You can download the old Rebirth app from there as well as the Reason Refill - check the download page ;)
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: GCW on December 23, 2008, 01:36:59 pm
Oops, I'm observant today.

That's a great place to start, Adam, especially if you then use Reason to import ReBirth loopings.  Plus you can export .wav from ReBirth to use in other programs.  ANd you can't get a better 303 sound!!
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Adam Lincoln on December 23, 2008, 02:24:00 pm
Well Ableton Live V7 downloaded first so playing with that now  :o
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Monolith on December 23, 2008, 03:51:19 pm
Another idea; check out mnml.nl production section. A few hours spent here will see you right. Lots of knowledgeable chappies.
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: andy_e on December 23, 2008, 10:21:58 pm
Cubase is what I use to make all my tunes and I love it- useful, quick, fairly simple, but most of all logical, which is what I value in it. And all my tunes are ace. (not)
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Houdini on December 24, 2008, 10:17:55 am
I'm not sure of the value of dabbling myself (though I'd agree Ableton is not easy to get to grips w/).  Better to find a format that does what you want w/ out pissing you off; something you can stick w/ over time (you'll need 3 years just to get your head round any serious program).  Most of the people I know who make techno use it (Cubase and Logic appear to be the other platforms of choice), so I've a great knowledge base to tap into.

www.abletonlivedj.com (http://www.abletonlivedj.com) is a good place to join.
Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Houdini on December 31, 2008, 09:20:26 pm
Warm up your download manager, fella.  

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5.Getting started
6.The Library
7.Control Bar
8.The Mixer
9.Arrangement View vs. Session View
10.Clip Track View
11.Warping 1
12.Warping 2
13.Recording Audio
14.Audio Effects
15.Beat Repeater
16.Track Automation
17.Transport
18.Clip Transport
19.Recording Midi
20.Midi Editing
21.Midi Effects
22.Editing in Arrangement View
23.Midi Remote
24.Keyboard Remote
25.Rewire
26.Cue Monitoring
27.Cross fader
28.Launching Clips
29.Simpler
30.Operator
31.Impulse
32.VST Instruments
33.Freeze
34.Routing IO
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36.Follow Actions
37.Sync
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Title: Re: Dabbling in making techno
Post by: Houdini on July 12, 2009, 06:02:18 pm
Any progress?
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