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Title: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on June 02, 2018, 01:43:29 pm
My sea cliff film is finally finished and the premiere is on Saturday 23rd June at Outside in Hathersage, 7:30PM.  :bounce:

(https://chequepictures.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/the-seaside-poster.jpg)

Here's the blurb:

Britain’s sea cliffs have a huge variety of trad climbing- steep or slabby, loose or friendly, easy or... slightly more challenging. But always unique. The Seaside captures the climbers who are drawn to these challenges, onsight on the routes they would have been climbing even if the camera wasn’t on them, right across the English and Welsh coast. Don’t forget your prusiks.

It's a meaty 61 minutes log, features many UKB members, an original soundtrack and absolutely zero seconds wasted on drone shots of people selfconsciously walking to the crag. I'll be talking about making the film and various other things beforehand too, but don't let that put you off.

Tickets are exactly one fuck-all each and are available from Outside in person or their website (http://www.outside.co.uk/shop/The+Seaside+Ticket+-+Mike+Cheque).

https://vimeo.com/200580339

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: andy popp on June 02, 2018, 01:46:06 pm
Congratulations!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on June 02, 2018, 07:39:01 pm
Congratulations!

Cheers Andy, I’m well pleased with it, not just to have finished it but with how it’s come out. Very excited to play it to people.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: andy popp on June 02, 2018, 08:59:22 pm
Is it going to be available after the premiere? Anyway, hope you have a great evening.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: reeve on June 04, 2018, 02:35:43 pm
Yes!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Fiend on June 04, 2018, 03:40:45 pm
 :punk: :punk: :punk: :punk: :punk: :punk:
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: fatneck on June 04, 2018, 03:44:08 pm
Nice work Mike!! Psyched for you :)

Sorry I won't be able to make it to the premiere but looking forward to seeing it upon it's release!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: SA Chris on June 04, 2018, 05:04:33 pm
Looks fantastic. Can't wait for the Scotland sequel either...
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: TobyD on June 04, 2018, 06:38:43 pm
Good work Mike! Looking forward to seeing it.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: fried on June 04, 2018, 06:51:05 pm
Nice one. Hope the film gets put up somewhere the rest of us can see.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: kingholmesy on June 05, 2018, 09:44:07 pm
Looks awesome. Psyched to see this once it is available more widely.  :bounce:
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on June 06, 2018, 07:58:28 am
Thanks all. I’m told tickets are going quickly so don’t hang about if you’re interested.

It’ll be online for free from the first week of July courtesy of BMCTV.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: bigironhorse on June 23, 2018, 08:30:08 am
Are there any tickets left for this? Didn't know if i would be around so didn't buy in advance.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: highrepute on June 23, 2018, 09:16:16 am
I believe it sold out.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on June 23, 2018, 10:44:31 am
Are there any tickets left for this? Didn't know if i would be around so didn't buy in advance.

I have one ticket if you want it.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on June 23, 2018, 10:59:27 am
Are there any tickets left for this? Didn't know if i would be around so didn't buy in advance.

I have one ticket if you want it.

Now gone.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Offwidth on June 23, 2018, 11:34:58 pm
Another stonking film Mike, that sums up the essence of trad above the waves.

Up with my best climbing days ever when not climbing at all: a virgin volunteer judge at the BMC Youth Open Bouldering at Rockover: the cream of young UK talent enthusiastically beasting being the perfect antidote to BMC political battles and then Mike's latest masterpiece (with his usual pitch perfect warm up) shared with pals at the intimate Longland's venue.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: haydn jones on June 24, 2018, 12:11:36 am
Definitely one of the best climbing films I've seen. Mega evening made really nice by going to the Indian opposite afterward with lots of mates who went including Mike himself
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: danm on June 24, 2018, 12:05:48 pm
Gutted I had to leave and miss the curry and chat afterwards. Mike's talk before the film was very engaging, and the film itself was great. It's got me frothing to go down to Cornwall this summer for the first time in about 20 years.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Will Hunt on June 24, 2018, 04:31:41 pm
Did anybody film the beginning talk?
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on June 24, 2018, 07:04:08 pm
Cheers guys, glad everyone enjoyed it.  :2thumbsup:

So satisfying to play the fruits of your labours to people after working on them for so long. There’s still a part of me that hasn’t realised that I’ve finished this film I think!

It's got me frothing to go down to Cornwall this summer for the first time in about 20 years.

This is basically the best praise I’d hope for.  ;D Lynn said she hadn’t even realised how long it was- also amazing praise as I always stress that things I’m making are too long. Feels like you’re really sticking your neck out making hour long films when so few other films coming out are that length.

I had an idea to give someone my phone to livestream the intro talk on social media but I forgot all about that. Man my Insta game is weak. :lol:

Should be online a week on Monday.  :bounce:
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: mark20 on June 24, 2018, 10:04:00 pm
Great evening, thanks Mike and Outside for organising it. Great film, I like how it really captured the diversity of UK climbing from the nice sunny holiday routes to the downright dangerous, and the climbers who climb them :whistle: Would have stayed a bit longer and chatted but had to shoot off for some food.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: mrjonathanr on June 24, 2018, 10:47:55 pm
Thanks from me too Mike, really enjoyed the film. I would like to watch it again, there's a lot going on. Really shows up the diversity of routes, locations and experiences out there. I liked the wide grade range too, from beginners to very experienced. Must have been an absolute logistical nightmare to film, glad someone made the effort!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: duncan on June 25, 2018, 09:22:07 am
Mike, I really enjoyed the film and the evening. Thanks also to Outside and The BMC for supporting the venture. I had sweaty palms for much of the film and, like Lynn, I couldn’t believe it was 60 minutes long. When we got to Pentire I thought you'd changed the runnning order and there was another 20 minutes to come. It was such a refreshing contrast to what usually appears in climbing films: in venues, in climbing type, in editing, and in the people and how they were portrayed. I’m not sure it inspired me to visit The Range but a much younger version of me would be off there next weekend.

Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: SA Chris on June 25, 2018, 10:09:53 am
When are you taking it on tour? Or filming the sequel??
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on June 25, 2018, 10:57:52 am
Fuck’s sake Chris, I nearly died less than three months ago!

I’d planned to do a more extensive promotion campaign with a bigger venue in Sheff and possible dates elsewhere to really put the film on the map and hopefully recoup some of the money I put into making it, but smashing myself up got in the way of that! A lot of the appeal of having the premiere at Outside was that they organised it all- I didn’t get any of the nominal entrance fee and I’m cool with that as I only had to turn up on the night with my computer and talk for a bit. I will be submitting the film to every outdoor film festival going though.  ;D

I’m not making a sequel to this film- a sea cliff film has been the focus of my life, often to the detriment of other things, for the best part of three years and I’m psyched to not have my head full of that specific thing any more. Short term I’m going to focus on stills (probably of bouldering and non-climbing things given that I’ve a long way to go, mentally and physically, before I can abseil or jug up a rope again) and let inspiration for my next film form organically. I’ve no doubt it will and my enthusiasm for filmmaking is totally unabated. Just before my accident I invested in a very nice video tripod (that I can’t even lift or carry currently!) and I haven’t even used it yet...

Also going to get Stonnis available online again with a directors commentary in lieu of the extras that I’d love to offer with it but simply don’t exist!

As far as the sea cliff areas I failed to cover in this film (you’re not the only person who’s mentioned Scotland, but I didn’t end up shooting in Devon or any non-mainland crags either :( ) then someone else will just have to pick up the baton. Scotland seems to to be home to a disproportionate amount of British climbing filmmakers and Finalcrux Films has a film about Scottish island cliffs coming at some point.

Thanks for all the positive comments everyone. I was more confident about this one than I was about Stonnis but the reaction’s still better than I’d hoped. :hug: Very, very keen to unleash it on a wider audience- a week today if all goes to plan.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Falling Down on June 25, 2018, 07:13:45 pm
Looking forward to seeing this Mike.  I hope you are healing well and that this helped the process.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Fiend on June 26, 2018, 11:38:53 am
 :punk: basically.

Duncan don't be too put off The Range, the film might be using a bit of artistic bias for effect ;) There's a lot of nice, gentle stuff there.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: lagerstarfish on June 26, 2018, 10:32:00 pm
*British piss take banter*

Fuck’s sake Chris, I nearly died less than three months ago!

"nearly"

it's not like actual dying

come on Cheque, we want 21st century blood sucking consumer satisfaction

*banter ends*

I'm looking forward to watching this - the fact that my BMC tax has contributed to this makes me happy

 :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: SamT on June 27, 2018, 09:05:21 am
Likewise Cheque,

Been eagerly awaiting this and was gutted to not be able to make the prem at Outside, (a stunning forecast and a pass out for a weekends climbing in the lakes took precedence, I'm sure you understand).

Can't wait to sit down, crack a beer and immerse myself.  Its been too long since I've climbed above the briny.

Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on June 27, 2018, 09:23:52 am
"nearly"

it's not like actual dying

come on Cheque, we want 21st century blood sucking consumer satisfaction

I tried my best, OK?  ;)

I'm looking forward to watching this - the fact that my BMC tax has contributed to this makes me happy

Every time I’ve seen Sport England funding being bashed as being to do with the Olympics and evil competition climbing I’ve thought “I’ve had some of that money and I spent it all on making films that are as far from comps as you can get”
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Will Hunt on June 27, 2018, 10:19:45 am
I'm looking forward to watching this - the fact that my BMC tax has contributed to this makes me happy

Every time I’ve seen Sport England funding being bashed as being to do with the Olympics and evil competition climbing I’ve thought “I’ve had some of that money and I spent it all on making films that are as far from comps as you can get”

Indeed. Anybody who has used that most sublime and beautiful of guidebooks - the Cheshire sandstone definitive - has also benefited. And probably the new Lancashire Rock guide also? And Over The Moors?
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on June 27, 2018, 03:35:04 pm
Should be online a week on Monday.  :bounce:

This should have read two weeks on Monday- July 9th is the date.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: SA Chris on June 27, 2018, 03:55:20 pm
Something to look forward to when I get home from holiday. on Jersey..
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on July 09, 2018, 10:47:20 am
Now online. (http://tv.thebmc.co.uk/videos/the-seaside/) ;D
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: highrepute on July 09, 2018, 10:52:11 am
Yay! Ellie will be pleased.

Is Stonnis not online anywhere Mike?
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on July 09, 2018, 10:56:53 am
Is Stonnis not online anywhere Mike?
Not currently- the BMC had it on their website for a year then I was going to make it downloadable with a few extras (45 minute festival cut which has never been online but is in some ways better, plus a “director’s commentary” of me telling the multitude of stories I have about the film over the top!) but that was delayed by making this film then by smashing myself up. Now would be a very good time to sort that out so I’ll get my act together, hopefully this week.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Falling Down on July 09, 2018, 09:24:14 pm
Loved it Mike - great job.  Sweaty palms.... what a logistical effort to film!

(A bit of trivia.  Malc Smith has climbed the Bardsey Ripple.  Me, GME, him and Pete Bukowski were down there in June 1996. I’ve got some slides somewhere...)
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Will Hunt on July 09, 2018, 09:40:28 pm
The bit with Fiend is just so good. That little drop in that music that he likes and the speeded up footage of him chucking lumps off the crag, like he's sorting through books in a library searching for the volume that he wants. First loose bit comes off The Complete Works and, under his breath, he utters "and so it begins". I love it!

Pentire Head looks fantastic. And there's Duncan with his key jumper placements. What a hero.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: csl on July 09, 2018, 10:20:31 pm
That was fantastic Mike, brought back some great memories. I think I better dust off the trad rack...
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Fiend on July 10, 2018, 10:50:52 am
(A bit of trivia.  Malc Smith has climbed the Bardsey Ripple.  Me, GME, him and Pete Bukowski were down there in June 1996. I’ve got some slides somewhere...)

That's an ace bit of trivia! I honestly would never have guessed that. It's a great route. I've got to go back and do more there....
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Falling Down on July 10, 2018, 11:42:03 am
I thought your bits were great Matt... the chute thing looked terrifying!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Fiend on July 10, 2018, 11:55:19 am
Cheers! It was about HVS climbing.....I use the term "climbing" loosely. But yeah!!

I'm so chuffed to be part of this, the two long weekends I had doing it in Wales and Cornwall were really good and I'm glad it worked out for the film.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: mrjonathanr on July 10, 2018, 12:08:31 pm
.....I use the term "climbing" loosely.
Boom-boom!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: galpinos on July 10, 2018, 01:29:49 pm

Can I just say I was massively disappointed. Fiend was nothing like the tiny orc painting, techno obsessed, camo wearing nut-job I had built him up to be from his online persona. To find out he seemed quite like-able was devastating.......

Apart from that, fantastic. Makes me think, 'why haven't I been sea cliff climbing yet this year?'. Falling Down, Path to Rome is still callling......
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Fiend on July 10, 2018, 01:39:11 pm
There were hideous fake Billabong rusty camo 3/4 length shorts??

Still haven't bloody done Path To Rome....
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: steveri on July 10, 2018, 01:43:12 pm
I'm going to save that for the big telly. First couple of mins looked ace, congrats. Was chatting to a guy this weekend who'd been diving by South Stack and came up with all sorts of gear ...a story attached to every fumbled wire no doubt :)
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Falling Down on July 10, 2018, 11:13:58 pm
Falling Down, Path to Rome is still callling......

10 years this year since we went to do it the first time and had that fun long weekend going nowhere near the sea cliffs. Not much chance of me doing it this year I’m afraid.  I was scared watching the film last night...
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: SamT on July 11, 2018, 09:22:08 am
Watched on't big telly last night.

Brilliant.  Now longing for that sensory overload. the salty smells, the wildlife, the fear...  This is the weather for it too!!.

Loved the Mousetrip edit.

Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on July 11, 2018, 09:51:01 am
So glad everyone’s enjoying it. For the majority of the process I felt like the end result couldn’t possibly come out well enough to justify what I was putting in but it seems like it did.  ;D

Particularly glad you like Mousetrap Sam- I put so much effort into filming that route in completely inhospitable circumstances and working out how the hell I was going to get the resultant footage to work in the film.

The trip to North Wales with Fiend was absolutely brilliant- driving over with Wil to meet someone we only knew from the internet and feared would be absolutely crazy, immediately getting on weird routes then heading to climb even weirder ones in almost completely unknown stunning locations on the Llŷn, picking up a poor unsuspecting Aussie visitor that Fiend had found on the UKC forums (who really just wanted to climb classic HVSs in the Pass) and Fiend trying his best to kill her in the Range (he was on The Complete Works for more than an hour and I felt sick with worry the whole time :sick:), it was all amazing. I knew I had dynamite footage before even looking at the files on the computer.  :dance1: We also went to some mellower crags and had a lovely peaceful time but, like all the footage of that ilk that I shot, it didn’t make it into the final cut.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Fiend on July 11, 2018, 10:50:47 am
The feeling about that weekend is mutual Mike :)

It's worth pointing out, in my defence, and in hope of ever finding climbing partners again:

Both The Complete Works and Great Crack Of Porth Oer (which is a Martin Crook route, actually at Porth Iago and so named to put other aspirant FAs off the scent) are quite slanting so the stuff I was knocking down was very unlikely to come near the belayers. And I took safety seriously - on TCW I placed 32 bits of gear (including 12 slings).

Poor lovely Kate, I am certain that whichever way around we had got in touch I had definitely mentioned that I really needed to get on some sea-cliffs as part of this film, and she'd agreed to give it a go (she is a strong and experienced climber). I maybe hadn't gone into full details of some of the ideas. Also Bane On looked good and Yellow Brick Road is a genuine mini-classic (I'd done it before with a VS leader who'd liked it).

Hopefully people notice in the Cornwall section (and belaying Wil on The Bardsey Ripple) that I am a pretty positive encouraging partner (current health circumstances aside). And it was nice to be part of Duncan's and Cecile's challenges.

Other than that though, guilty as charged!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Wil on July 11, 2018, 11:49:33 am
The trip to North Wales with Fiend was absolutely brilliant- driving over with Wil to meet someone we only knew from the internet and feared would be absolutely crazy...

That was a great trip. Jen was unconvinced...

J: "How did you meet Cheque?"

Me: "In the back of Shark's car."

J: "Who is Shark and how did he meet him?

Me: "I teach Shark's kids. He met him on the internet."

J: "And you're climbing with?"

Me: "Some guy called Fiend."

J: "Do you know him?"

Me: "Only from the internet."

J: "Do any of these people have real names?"

Me: "Kate did. We picked her up in the pub, she said she was scared of sea cliffs but was secretly a badass who once crawled down a glacier in Kyrgystan."

J: "Of course she did. So you went to north Wales with pseudonymed strangers to be filmed on X rated routes?"

Me: "I thought Fiend was going to die. It was great."

Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Wil on July 11, 2018, 11:54:23 am
Both The Complete Works and Great Crack Of Porth Oer are quite slanting so the stuff I was knocking down was very unlikely to come near the belayers. And I took safety seriously - on TCW I placed 32 bits of gear (including 12 slings).

I was genuinely impressed that TCW could be climbed with such composure. It shows there's a real skill to protecting and climbing these things. I thought it was more that 32 pieces? I have the photo somewhere. As you say, despite appearances I wasn't in much danger of being clobbered, and the Crack of Porth Oer was actually surprisingly solid underneath the initial crust of rubble, the runners were good and I wasn't really concerned. TCW was another story.

Hopefully people notice in the Cornwall section (and belaying Wil on The Bardsey Ripple) that I am a pretty positive encouraging partner.

5/5 would recommend to a friend.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: AJM on July 11, 2018, 12:16:34 pm
Very much enjoyed it. Some great footage of some cool routes...
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Will Hunt on July 11, 2018, 12:51:21 pm
Loved the Mousetrip edit.

This is interesting. Out of the whole film I think the Mousetrap bit was the only bit that I didn't get on with - just because I couldn't easily make out what Michaela was saying amidst the effects and I think the visual distortions were used a little too much.

But anyway, that's just one person's opinion and very small beer when you're looking at a whole hour long film which has been painstakingly put together at great expense to one person. Buuuuuut, if I was to say one other thing it would be that I've played it back a few times and I still don't know what John is saying half the time, and I was there listening to him when he said it! That might just be John or it might the sound on the film (I was straining to hear the voiceover). Maybe a little tweak of the sound levels or a few subtitles if you submit to a film festival.

Sorry sorry sorry. I know you've probably agonised over all that already. I love the film - it's brill.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on July 11, 2018, 04:42:54 pm
I still don't know what John is saying half the time

John put his jacket on over his mic without me realising, so the sound on his interview is a bit of a salvage job unfortunately. As you say though, he’s not particularly comprehensible at the best of times and I decided to keep it that way. As soon as you start subtitling people with strong regional accents it becomes a joke at their expense which I didn’t want.

I think I agree with you that I overlooked the first pitch of Mousetrap visually. Sometimes I watch it and it seems a bit heavy handed but sometimes I don’t. It’s intentional that you can’t hear everything she’s saying though. So deal with it.  ;)
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Will Hunt on July 11, 2018, 04:51:06 pm
I still don't know what John is saying half the time

John put his jacket on over his mic without me realising, so the sound on his interview is a bit of a salvage job unfortunately. As you say though, he’s not particularly comprehensible at the best of times and I decided to keep it that way. As soon as you start subtitling people with strong regional accents it becomes a joke at their expense which I didn’t want.

I think I agree with you that I overlooked the first pitch of Mousetrap visually. Sometimes I watch it and it seems a bit heavy handed but sometimes I don’t. It’s intentional that you can’t hear everything she’s saying though. So deal with it.  ;)

Sorry, I meant that I can't understand what he's saying half the time in the video. But yes, I absolutely get what you're saying about subtitling people with accents. Sometimes they do it on the telly when the interviewee is one of them Johnny Foreigner types, even if they're speaking perfect English (more often than not on ITV, which is ironic since their audience can hardly be literate).

To all the people saying that Fiend's bit was scary. Pah! That was nothing! He's climbing rubble, but it's piss rubble. That bloke trying an E1 on his first time out, however. I was writhing in my seat trying to escape the inevitable fuck up. Hideous to watch! You could just see how out of control he was and, on his first day of trad climbing, do you really trust his gear? Grim scenes.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Johnny Brown on July 11, 2018, 09:33:54 pm
Just watched, brilliant. Highlight is of course Fiend on The Complete Works (an hour sounds quite quick to me!), but really enjoyed all of the second half. Swanage section was perhaps a bit of a slow start but it soon got going. Mousetrap worked quite well for me, it's a shame it's best angle is from out at sea. No slow-mo replay of the Barbarella deckout left me hanging, I had to rewind.

I had no problems with any of the audio/ catching dialogue although I did wear headphones.

Tempting as it must have been to make the whole film about Fiend I think you made the right decision!

Quote
I was genuinely impressed that TCW could be climbed with such composure. It shows there's a real skill to protecting and climbing these things.

Indeed. Can be a real eye-opener when some big talent completely goes to pieces on such terrrain.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Duncan campbell on July 12, 2018, 08:10:38 am
Agree with JB about no slow-no of the deck-out! Horrible shit that!

Being an elitist wanker I wasn’t so into the easier climbs. Though totally see/understand/empathise with why you have these in here too.

Enjoyed Will fucking up his ropework... c’mon will! Schoolboy!

But I’m only half way through at the moment. So far it’s been a nice trip down
Memory lane on some routes that I really enjoyed doing!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: SamT on July 12, 2018, 09:03:13 am
That bloke trying an E1 on his first time out, however. I was writhing in my seat trying to escape the inevitable fuck up. Hideous to watch! You could just see how out of control he was and, on his first day of trad climbing, do you really trust his gear? Grim scenes.

Totally This ^^^ :sick:
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Fiend on July 12, 2018, 12:19:50 pm
Cheers for your words JB. Since people seem to like that section, I've written some words about it: https://fiendophobia.blogspot.com/2018/07/the-complete-works.html

Watching the premiere, I wasn't sure about the Mousetrap section, it didn't do it for me, but I assumed that it was a style Cheque wanted to put in there, it's nice to see it working for some people.

The first E1 sketching had me worried too!!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: andy popp on July 12, 2018, 01:19:41 pm
Tempting as it must have been to make the whole film about Fiend

That would have been great! The parts with Fiend were far and away my favourite, especially once he'd teamed up with Duncan.

I really liked that most of the climbing shown was "easy." Personally I would like to have seen more from the South-West, but that's just a reflection of my own climbing history rather than a reasoned argument. Overall, thoroughly enjoyable and (for me) a little nostalgic.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Falling Down on July 12, 2018, 05:51:01 pm
That bloke trying an E1 on his first time out, however. I was writhing in my seat trying to escape the inevitable fuck up. Hideous to watch! You could just see how out of control he was and, on his first day of trad climbing, do you really trust his gear? Grim scenes.

Totally This ^^^ :sick:

Me too... I was squirming in my seat saying “what the fuck are you doing!!” waiting for all the gear to rip - could barely watch. 
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on July 12, 2018, 07:17:40 pm

The hour-long version is the director’s cut! Some of it, like the slow-burning nature of the Swanage start JB mentions is pretty self-indulgent and will be trimmed for the harsher reality of the film festival world.

Black Magic was pencilled in as the closing route for a time, but while on paper it’s fantastic (a very solid ascent by Fiend of a classic route that nevertheless tested him) in reality it doesn’t really work on screen- I shot it with a single camera from above, an angle that doesn’t give an idea of the route at all.

However it will see the light of day at some point along with other extras I have- there are three full chapters (Rhoscolyn, North Pembroke & Pembroke DWS) that didn’t make it plus more.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: fatneck on July 13, 2018, 09:10:32 am
Just to add that I loved it! Thanks Mike!! Great work - echo what everyone else said really. The closest I ever got to sea cliff climbing was Holyhead Mountain about 15 years ago but almost psyched to dust off my rack and travel to Pembroke!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: galpinos on July 13, 2018, 09:24:27 am

Mike,, it didn't feel an hour long, I was surprised when it finished thinking I'd only watched about 30 mins. I've no idea what the world of film festivals is like but |I wouldn't be too harsh on the Swanage bit, normal people climbing normal routes is part of the charm!

Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Doylo on July 13, 2018, 10:24:17 am
Good effort on the film. Must have been a lot of work.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: SamT on July 13, 2018, 11:16:52 am

However it will see the light of day at some point along with other extras I have- there are three full chapters (Rhoscolyn, North Pembroke & Pembroke DWS) that didn’t make it plus more.

I'm pretty sure we were climbing on Rhoscolyn when you were filming from across the other side.  Hot sunny day.  Be interesting to see if it was you/us.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Will Hunt on July 13, 2018, 11:49:21 am
There must be enough footage for The Seaside Part 2. We just need to convince Mike to shut himself away for another year to make the edit!

I would have thought that the North Pembroke section would be good. Obviously because it would mean more glorious seconds of on-screen puntering for myself, but also the day we were at Barcud was quite atmospheric.  It was a big sea day, but Barcud just avoided the worst of it. Somebody I know was climbing in south Pembroke and a big wave swept them and their partner off their belay ledge, completely removing their 3 point belay as it did so - the only reason they weren't taken out to sea was that they were still clipped to the ab rope. Some friends hired some kayaks in St David's (after trawling round every other more sensible shop which refused to hire kayaks on that day) and had a very near drowning when one of them got broadsided while trying to surf a wave.

Rob had just fallen off Barbarella the day before. He said he came away lightly in the film, that's not what it seemed when he spent the whole day wrapped in duvet jackets, nursing a sore arse at the top of the crag!  :lol:
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: galpinos on July 13, 2018, 12:18:17 pm
Rob had just fallen off Barbarella the day before. He said he came away lightly in the film, that's not what it seemed when he spent the whole day wrapped in duvet jackets, nursing a sore arse at the top of the crag!  :lol:

I bumped into Rob in the Depot (Manc) on Tuesday. I'm not sure he's relishing his new found fame....
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on July 13, 2018, 12:57:41 pm
Somebody I know was climbing in south Pembroke and a big wave swept them and their partner off their belay ledge, completely removing their 3 point belay as it did so - the only reason they weren't taken out to sea was that they were still clipped to the ab rope.

I should have been filming that!

Rob had just fallen off Barbarella the day before. He said he came away lightly in the film, that's not what it seemed when he spent the whole day wrapped in duvet jackets, nursing a sore arse at the top of the crag!  :lol:

The next morning (the day I filmed his interview) he was absolutely fine and climbing again. Amazing that neither of them were properly hurt. A good advert for wearing a helmet when belaying in a situation like that- could have been nasty.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: duncan on July 13, 2018, 02:26:41 pm
Mike, watched it a third time through the big speakers last night. Looked great. No issues at all with sound balance.

Sounds like you're planning a 45 minute festival edit (a Glasto. set!). This should include Yaz at Swanage, it's almost as gripping as the start of Hard Grit. The unseen material presented as chapters "A day trip to The Seaside: N.Pembroke" sounds like a good idea and should keep folk coming back to the main film. 
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Yossarian on July 13, 2018, 07:15:49 pm
Ditto to all the preceding praise. Such a brilliant film - bravo!

The only thing I think it’s missing is Fiend preparing like Neil Bentley before Strapidictomy. Munching a Big Mac, painting some orcs, small box big box to some gabba, etc.

It has persuaded me to return to Swanage after my most recent avowed decision to never return. I’ve obviously got to have a go at Peacemaker.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Will Hunt on July 14, 2018, 10:13:34 pm
The only thing I think it’s missing is Fiend preparing like Neil Bentley before Strapidictomy. Munching a Big Mac, painting some orcs, small box big box to some gabba, etc.

Post of the thread, right there.  :clap2:
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: dunnyg on July 15, 2018, 11:27:22 am
 Finally watched it. Awesome, got me so psyched for the seaside. All of it. I was only slightly disappointed that Fiend didn't have the thick unintelligible Glasgow accent that I read all his posts in.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Fiend on July 15, 2018, 02:14:14 pm
Christ. I'm a posh-voiced squeaky cunt exiled a long way from my origins!

I wanted some comedy wobble jump-up drum and bass for my bit but Mike knew better.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Alex-the-Alex on July 22, 2018, 12:11:39 am
Well well well good! Thanks for brightening up a saturday night. The Eroica bit and Earthly Powers were brilliant. Out of interest what other routes didnt make the final cut? Or are you keeping that under wraps? Btw I would happily volunteer to fall off path to rome for part II  :bounce:
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on July 22, 2018, 05:54:55 pm
Glad you enjoyed it Alex. It means a lot that people are so psyched for it.

You missed the route American Excess off your tick list on the other channel by the way.  ;)

Cilan is one of the places I was gutted not to film at. I did check it out but despite vague plans did not end up making it there with climbers.

Please see this grumpy quote from earlier in this thread-

I’m not making a sequel to this film- a sea cliff film has been the focus of my life, often to the detriment of other things, for the best part of three years and I’m psyched to not have my head full of that specific thing any more.

I’m in no way quitting making climbing films (possibly more psyched for filming than ever, just need my body to get back into gear!) so I might be contacting you regarding being filmed at some point.  ;D

I wouldn’t get too excited about routes that didn’t end up in the final cut- they didn’t for a reason, which was almost always that nothing eventful happened in the course of the ascent. A lot will seep out though but rest assured that you have seen everything truly noteworthy that I shot.

Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: danm on July 22, 2018, 06:26:21 pm
Thought I'd share this: I was working at the Brenin this weekend for the BMC. Totally unheralded, one of the junior staff there came up and started raving about having watched The Seaside, how it had totally inspired them and how awesome that it was on BMC TV  :)
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Alex-the-Alex on July 22, 2018, 09:12:33 pm
Cheers for the reply Cheque! Ahh I was only joking about part II ;) (well, mostly). With regards to the other routes it was more an interest in which ones you had considered or tried filming. How did route selection work? Did you have some in mind to start with or did it mostly come down to the climbers? Earthly Powers and the Demon really did look amazing on camera. Some routes do lend themselves to it.

 Oh dear  :-[. One thing worse than a ticklist maker is a bad one... I just couldnt help myself... The upside is if i ever get down to the range the complete works will probably be a chalked up path now  ;D
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: slab_happy on July 25, 2018, 07:58:03 am
Is Stonnis not online anywhere Mike?
Not currently- the BMC had it on their website for a year then I was going to make it downloadable with a few extras (45 minute festival cut which has never been online but is in some ways better, plus a “director’s commentary” of me telling the multitude of stories I have about the film over the top!) but that was delayed by making this film then by smashing myself up. Now would be a very good time to sort that out so I’ll get my act together, hopefully this week.

That's fantastic to hear -- I went to Black Rocks for the first time yesterday, wanted to watch Stonnis again and couldn't find it, then came here to post wistfully asking if anyone knew where it'd gone.

I loved it the first time I saw it, and am yearning to rewatch now I have first-hand (and other body part) experience of the rounded glories of the crag.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: andy_e on August 21, 2020, 03:52:11 pm
Hi Mike! Is the Seaside online anywhere? I can't find at all...
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on August 21, 2020, 04:57:47 pm
Hi Andy, not yet. I’m editing the extras and when they’re done I’ll be putting it up. During lockdown I was hoping to have it done by now but then we could go climbing again and I stopped working on it...
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on April 06, 2021, 11:41:34 am
The film is back online now (https://vimeo.com/ondemand/theseaside), with the promised extra sections.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: cheque on June 21, 2023, 10:27:46 am
https://vimeo.com/514069311
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: SA Chris on June 21, 2023, 10:30:55 am
 :thumbsup: x 100! Look forward to a rewatch.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: mrjonathanr on June 21, 2023, 12:02:56 pm
This was outsanding Mike, loved the viewing at Outside. I am looking forward to watching this again.
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: andy popp on June 21, 2023, 12:27:51 pm
Fab! Haven't seen this so very much looking forward to it!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: Duncan Disorderly on June 21, 2023, 05:08:26 pm
Absolute class!
Title: Re: The Seaside premiere, 23rd June, Outside, Hathersage
Post by: haydn jones on June 21, 2023, 09:43:02 pm
Still remember the viewing at outside! Psyched to watch it again soon!
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