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Title: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on November 17, 2018, 01:27:42 pm
Eggcorn. Noun. In linguistics, an eggcorn is an idiosyncratic substitution of a word or phrase for a word or words that sound similar or identical in the speaker's dialect.

My favourites so far:

Don't take it for granite.

For all intensive purposes.

I was wondering around the crag when...

Well done, son shine.

I can't bare it any more.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: r-man on November 17, 2018, 02:37:32 pm
The BT salesperson yesterday: "You may not be legible."

The internet, all the time: "An absolutely top draw boulder problem."
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on November 17, 2018, 04:06:58 pm
I actually once heard with my own ears a friend accuse somebody of "popcorn kettle black".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Steve R on November 17, 2018, 05:18:13 pm
Great to learn there's a name for this.  Couple that spring to mind:
climbing is my favourite past time
dinner's ready, could you lay out the cut-el-ree
it's just part of the course
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Steve R on November 17, 2018, 05:19:36 pm
I actually once heard with my own ears a friend accuse somebody of "popcorn kettle black".
:clap2: that's going to take some beating
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on November 17, 2018, 05:36:59 pm
My school friend, "I can't wait for the exams to be over, I need some rest bite" has stuck with me to this day.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on November 17, 2018, 06:28:04 pm
I actually once heard with my own ears a friend accuse somebody of "popcorn kettle black".
:clap2: that's going to take some beating

He'd already been in for a ribbing earlier in the evening when, about 2 minutes after a group conversation about oral as performed on the female sex, he looked up and asked, "who on earth is Colonel Lingus".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: moose on November 17, 2018, 06:37:39 pm
Two I've heard or seen on forums more than a few times:
- tow the line
- escape goat / scrape goat

Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on November 17, 2018, 07:53:15 pm
Two I've heard or seen on forums more than a few times:
- tow the line
- escape goat / scrape goat

Authocorrect doesn’t help with these...
m😃
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 17, 2018, 08:14:11 pm
Does it include deliberate ones?

Like the classic “Murky buckets”?

Or “Fairy snuff”?

Or do they have to be accidental?

Like my favourite log book entry about the foredeck being dangerous due to “Whore frost”?

Or this, and I swear I took this photo in Piraeus (meant to be Warves):

(https://image.ibb.co/c1m7X0/50209-E9-C-5-C25-4-E2-F-A9-F5-7-BFCE7111358.jpg)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on November 17, 2018, 08:40:31 pm
Saved for prosperity
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 17, 2018, 08:45:08 pm
Well balls!

Typo.

Wharves
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Steve R on November 17, 2018, 09:04:08 pm
My school friend, "I can't wait for the exams to be over, I need some rest bite" has stuck with me to this day.

Funny how these sorts of things stay with you... I still remember one from school age whilst round at a mate's house.  We must've asked his mum for a solution to some complex problem to which she declared 'I'm not Ironside you know!'

Also, being a bit slow on the uptake, I only realised after previous posting that eggcorn is presumably itself an eggcorn.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on November 17, 2018, 09:59:53 pm
 :lol:

It actually took me a while to get that one. What world are these people in?!
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 17, 2018, 10:26:39 pm
Saved for prosperity

Note “Gargo” to the right, too.

This is what happens when you put “I speak seven languages” on your CV...
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: TobyD on November 17, 2018, 10:53:40 pm
Or this, and I swear I took this photo in Piraeus (meant to be Warves):

(https://image.ibb.co/c1m7X0/50209-E9-C-5-C25-4-E2-F-A9-F5-7-BFCE7111358.jpg)

 :lol:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on November 17, 2018, 11:40:04 pm
Saved for prosperity

Note “Gargo” to the right, too.

This is what happens when you put “I speak seven languages” on your CV...

 :shrug:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 17, 2018, 11:47:13 pm
Saved for prosperity

Note “Gargo” to the right, too.

This is what happens when you put “I speak seven languages” on your CV...

 :shrug:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tBqEsr79Jr8 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tBqEsr79Jr8)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 18, 2018, 02:24:10 am
Saved for prosperity

Note “Gargo” to the right, too.

This is what happens when you put “I speak seven languages” on your CV...

 :shrug:

Right, that didn’t make sense, because I meant to quote my own post not yours Cheque.
I’d left it too long to edit my own and wanted to add the reference to the sketch.
Then, I thought you must have not got the sketch reference, and...
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: bigironhorse on November 18, 2018, 06:46:19 am
"pacifically"

"that was a galliant effort"

And after a particley impressive bit of climbing:

"that was absolutely superfluous!"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 18, 2018, 08:09:24 am
Popular local phrase, in the villages around the southern edge of Dartmoor, and a favourite of my Grandmother; was “San Fairy Ann”.

It meant, someone who was careless or glib, as in “he’s all bliddy San Fairy Ann, that boy”.

I think I was an adult before I found out it was a corruption of the French “Ça ne fait rien”.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 18, 2018, 08:33:21 am

And after a particley impressive bit of climbing:


Bit of a quantum leap then?

On the French tip, Bluejohn mines = blue et jaune and for our fishing friends, John Dory may = jaune doré.

Are eggcorns what mighty yolks grow from? :-\
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 18, 2018, 08:39:21 am
Time for this, surely?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbvCRkl_4U (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbvCRkl_4U)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 18, 2018, 08:42:09 am
Are eggcorns what mighty yolks grow from? :-\

Only lidl’s ones...
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on November 18, 2018, 08:50:20 am
Popular local phrase, in the villages around the southern edge of Dartmoor, and a favourite of my Grandmother; was “San Fairy Ann”.

It meant, someone who was careless or glib, as in “he’s all bliddy San Fairy Ann, that boy”.

I think I was an adult before I found out it was a corruption of the French “Ça ne fait rien”.

That’s lovely!!
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: nai on November 18, 2018, 09:31:28 am
Popular local phrase, in the villages around the southern edge of Dartmoor, and a favourite of my Grandmother; was “San Fairy Ann”.

Interesting origin but not sure it's that local, my gran lived in Birmingham and she used to say it. Maybe it came back from the war?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 18, 2018, 09:43:46 am
Curiously its acronym would be SFA.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 18, 2018, 10:26:03 am
Popular local phrase, in the villages around the southern edge of Dartmoor, and a favourite of my Grandmother; was “San Fairy Ann”.

Interesting origin but not sure it's that local, my gran lived in Birmingham and she used to say it. Maybe it came back from the war?

I’m told it originates either from the Norman era (I think unlikely, as an opinion) or from the “Onion Johnnies”, mainly Bretons, who exploited the early days of cross channel ferries and the rationing in the UK post war; to cycle around selling “stuff”, often in the Breton striped jersey and with a string of onions around their necks.
Google says the phrase crops up in Cycling circles too, but I found references to it in Kent as well.
Possibly most common within easy cycling distance of a channel port?
WW1 and 2 import from trenches or Continental combatants (or refugees)?

Still, I know most of the old folk that used it, didn’t know what it was.

Edit.

My Dad says, they probably weren’t onions, it was likely garlic; but as a kid, he and his friends didn’t know what garlic was, so they called them onions.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: galpinos on November 19, 2018, 11:01:36 am
Popular local phrase, in the villages around the southern edge of Dartmoor, and a favourite of my Grandmother; was “San Fairy Ann”.

Interesting origin but not sure it's that local, my gran lived in Birmingham and she used to say it. Maybe it came back from the war?

Popular with my Mother too, a Lancastrian. I do like the adoption of foreign phrases, raisin and mayday from the french etc.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy popp on November 19, 2018, 11:27:21 am
Americans say "could care less" instead of "couldn't care less" - I don't know why, but it really does my head in. I want to explain why its wrong every time I hear it.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on November 19, 2018, 01:47:49 pm
I like all the mute points being made here.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 19, 2018, 04:37:37 pm
Oh! Oh!

Don’t forget THE most irritating of all:

Expresso.

 :slap:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: galpinos on November 19, 2018, 06:24:25 pm
If you are mentioning Expresso, i’m afraid I have to re-post this:

https://youtu.be/qmVnr7rsWrE
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on November 19, 2018, 06:43:42 pm
All this sounds like an idea for a bbc2 / dave tv show. The host being a chimera of Stephen Fry and Will
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on November 19, 2018, 07:24:58 pm
https://youtu.be/XnXKVY-_i2c
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on November 20, 2018, 09:36:47 am
Not forgetting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyAWSnwBJLA
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on November 20, 2018, 02:03:52 pm
All this sounds like an idea for a bbc2 / dave tv show. The host being a chimera of Stephen Fry and Will

Dave Gorman did an episode of "Modern Life" on them.

Ones i can remember are;

"Like a bowl in a china shop"
"On this from the gecko"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on November 20, 2018, 02:27:28 pm
I’ve been going over these with a fine toothcomb.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy popp on November 20, 2018, 03:45:49 pm
"On tenderhooks."
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: teestub on November 20, 2018, 03:57:55 pm
"Wet my appetite".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on November 20, 2018, 04:18:46 pm
"Wet my appetite".

Oh, yes. Thank you! This is a favourite.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: galpinos on November 20, 2018, 04:20:39 pm
This thread is a total damp squid.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on November 20, 2018, 04:23:49 pm
Peaked/ peeked my interest.

Someone at work used the term "Get shut on 'im" yesterday which I think is an eggcorn of "Get shot of him" with a bit of language-mangling local dialect thrown in.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on November 20, 2018, 04:24:36 pm
This thread is a total damp squid.

You're right, it just doesn't pass mustard.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy popp on November 20, 2018, 04:39:12 pm
"Wet my appetite".

Oh, yes. Thank you! This is a favourite.

Though only really committed when written.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 20, 2018, 05:20:52 pm
A propos good grammar...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LL-zer6-Rs0 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LL-zer6-Rs0)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mark20 on November 20, 2018, 06:20:45 pm
"It's the Laura Average"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 20, 2018, 07:42:53 pm
"It's the Laura Average"

Still, she has a nice personality.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on November 20, 2018, 08:08:56 pm
Laura Norder is often missing on Merseyside.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Steve R on November 20, 2018, 08:15:06 pm
Pretty good double whammy spotted today whilst browsing tools on screwfix, written by a negative reviewer:
"To change belts you'll need a size 1 and size 2 pozi screwdriver, a hex key and oddles of patients"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on November 20, 2018, 09:05:17 pm
better make sure its not a left handed oddle...
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on November 20, 2018, 10:28:11 pm
A left handed tool wouldn't be ideal, but if the ships are down I think you'd manage.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 20, 2018, 11:20:09 pm
Over the weekend, whilst doing Xmas prep type stuff, my nine year old wandered out of Whittards holding a plastic shot glass; recently drained of some sickly hot white-chocolate gloop.
We moved into Millets, nextdoor and little miss, strode straight up to the assistant and said “Excuse me. Where are the Pina Coladas?”

Baffled assistant and parents, mumble “whaa?”

“Coz my face gets so cold, playing football.” She explains.

I catch sight of older brother, pissing himself with laughter, trying to hide behind a rack of jackets.

He set her up, apparently, told her the wrong name.

“What was she supposed to ask for?” Asks his mum..

“Baklavas” he said.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: galpinos on November 21, 2018, 08:57:17 am
Peaked/ peeked my interest.

Someone at work used the term "Get shut on 'im" yesterday which I think is an eggcorn of "Get shot of him" with a bit of language-mangling local dialect thrown in.

My mother says "to get shut of" to mean "get rid of", again, she's a Lancastrian so can't necessarily be trusted.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on November 26, 2018, 07:32:32 am
Can I interest anyone in some genuine Chester Draws?

https://www.gumtree.com/search?search_category=all&q=chester%20draws
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: bigironhorse on November 26, 2018, 07:51:43 am
Can I interest anyone in some genuine Chester Draws?

https://www.gumtree.com/search?search_category=all&q=chester%20draws

That's beggars belief.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on November 26, 2018, 09:32:51 am
Who would name a piece of furniture after a Fast Show character?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on November 28, 2018, 09:22:02 am
A written one I forgot about. "I was attacked by a viscous dog" always makes me wonder if the dog flowed after them as they ran away.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on November 28, 2018, 09:52:40 am
 :lol:

Terminator 2 stylee
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on November 28, 2018, 03:06:24 pm
Steve McManaman said “point black range” while commentating on the Man City match last night.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: dontfollowme on November 28, 2018, 06:15:50 pm
On the radio yesterday: Throw the kitchen sink in :)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on November 28, 2018, 09:37:39 pm
This is a subject that needs handling with kid’s gloves.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tommytwotone on November 29, 2018, 10:12:13 am
Malapropism, not eggcorn I guess, but my (4yr old) daughter accused me of "telling porcupines" the other day...
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: spidermonkey09 on November 29, 2018, 10:59:12 am
Americans say "could care less" instead of "couldn't care less" - I don't know why, but it really does my head in. I want to explain why its wrong every time I hear it.

This just makes no bloody sense.

Continuing on the slight tangent of 'sayings said wrong,' the one that winds me up the most if when people say 'the proof will be in the pudding.' No it ****ing won't. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating.

That and 'generally' and 'genuinely' used interchangable; eg 'I generally do believe you' or 'Genuinely I go shopping at Tesco.' Nightmare.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on November 29, 2018, 11:15:10 am

Someone in our office just said "cremating evidence".

 :lol:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 29, 2018, 02:04:43 pm
I’ve probably shared this somewhere else on here, but, hey ho.

On the US and us, “two nations, separated by a common language” theme...

Was once based in Port Canaveral, Florida, and used to frequent the base taxi rank (sorry, I mean “Cab”) with my felllow Jack Tars.
This being in the days, when a Cabbie invariably had a Marlborough Red hanging off his lips.
Queue my mate tapping on the glass and requesting of the driver “Oi mate, can I bum a fag?”


We had to get a different taxi.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on November 29, 2018, 04:30:55 pm
You have to be careful not to be misunderstood when you’re rooting for someone in Australia...
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on November 29, 2018, 05:12:20 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/fXcFj3t/8-AF6-C236-98-B5-43-CB-A4-BC-219-FDA5-BBDD9.jpg)


Well, almost on topic.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on November 29, 2018, 07:49:30 pm
Malapropism, not eggcorn I guess, but my (4yr old) daughter accused me of "telling porcupines" the other day...

This has reminded me (how could I forget) that my wife has a chronic and debilitating condition where she mixes bits of common phrases and similes. I.E, she never says "these are dry as a bone", she always says "these are dry as old boots".

The summit of this condition was when she turned to me and smugly declared, "put that in your bumhole and pipe it".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: JamieG on November 30, 2018, 10:45:09 am
A friend told me a good one this morning. Apparently she only just realised it is 'pay-per-view' not 'paper view'.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on November 30, 2018, 01:28:17 pm
Ive only just realised Eggcorns is from Acorns..

 :slap:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on November 30, 2018, 02:39:04 pm
Malapropism, not eggcorn I guess, but my (4yr old) daughter accused me of "telling porcupines" the other day...

This has reminded me (how could I forget) that my wife has a chronic and debilitating condition where she mixes bits of common phrases and similes. I.E, she never says "these are dry as a bone", she always says "these are dry as old boots".


My old boss once said "I'll put all the eggs out on the table" and "I scratch my back, and you scratch yours"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: fatneck on November 30, 2018, 05:22:31 pm
I don't think this is an eggcorn or a malapropism however one of our volunteers informed me the other day upon hearing that I was feeling sore from climbing that I needed;

"Rubbing down with a pork chop"....

She had no idea where it came from but apparently her old boss used to say it a lot...
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mr chaz on November 30, 2018, 05:22:46 pm
Our Sal has somewhat of a repuation for this at work:

'as white as the ace of spades'

'slept like a light'

'whatever swings your boat'

'a reconstructed cheesecake'

'30 degree burns'

'390 degree turn'

'every night's a school night'

'calm your beans'

'hold your beans'

'she'd go to the opening of a stamp'

'that'll kill some birds'

 :slap:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on December 02, 2018, 09:46:08 am
I don't think this is an eggcorn or a malapropism however one of our volunteers informed me the other day upon hearing that I was feeling sore from climbing that I needed;

"Rubbing down with a pork chop"....

She had no idea where it came from but apparently her old boss used to say it a lot...

Does rubbing down with a pork chop come with a ‘happy ending?’
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on December 02, 2018, 12:34:41 pm
Reading this thread has become one of my favourite past times.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on December 02, 2018, 04:43:19 pm
A friend needed some paint thinner so went off to Manby's in Widnes.
"I'm looking for some turps, have you got any?"
"Halfway down the end aisle".

But there wasn't any. He went back.
"Sorry, I couldn't find it. Are you sure it's there?"
"Halfway down the end aisle"

Still none there. He went back. The shop assistant, now in a huff for having to leave the till, leads him to halfway down the end aisle.

"There! Turps!", he declared crossly, pointing at the tape measures.
"Thanks... do you have any turpentine?"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on December 04, 2018, 11:08:35 am
Have we had the simple yet totally pervasive "of" instead of "have" yet? When spoken, I can just about live with it, but to see it written down makes me despair. How can the education system have failed someone so badly that they do not know how to use such a fundamentally important word as "of"?

Another one from a work email: "...would satisfy some of the concerns that have been banded around".

 :wall:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tommytwotone on December 04, 2018, 12:40:22 pm
I used to work with a project manager who was the master of the management speak  / mangled metaphor cocktail.


Two of my favourites of his were:


1. When apologising to someone whose project hadn't been progressed to their liking:


"I'm sorry - think this one just fell off the back burner"


(like the idea that it was such a low priority, it was on the back burner already, then we paid it so little attention that it fell off. And we still didn't notice.)


2. Speaking after a slightly tetchy meeting with a supplier:


"They're just trying to pigeon-hole us into a corner"


(whoa - now that is a bad negotiating position!)



Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Falling Down on December 04, 2018, 10:38:58 pm
Did you manage to keep a straight face?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: highrepute on December 05, 2018, 08:17:27 am
From a meeting yesterday...

"they do a lot of blue cloud thinking"

Noted this one down with a carefully concealed smirk  :whistle:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: duncan on December 05, 2018, 09:18:21 am
Some top draw egg samples. 
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on December 05, 2018, 09:42:56 am
From work yesterday: "They haven't battered an eyelid".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Monolith on December 05, 2018, 09:58:13 am
Heard a good one yesterday. "I'd asked for that pacifically".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on December 05, 2018, 10:19:34 am
Manager in meeting yesterday;

"So, in the most simpleton terms" (glances were exchanged around the room)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on December 05, 2018, 10:26:33 am
Heard a good one yesterday. "I'd asked for that pacifically".

Depends. Either they asked for it calmly, or it's an eggcorn.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on December 05, 2018, 12:24:24 pm
I think Torturous is often used when in fact folks mean to say Tortuous. 

e.g. "its a torturous drive over the snake pass"

Though to be fair, being stuck doing 29mph behind someone who hasn't realised that putting their headlights on full beam offers them a much better view of the road ahead can be a form of mental torture.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on December 05, 2018, 12:45:17 pm
I think Torturous is often used when in fact folks mean to say Tortuous. 

e.g. "its a torturous drive over the snake pass"

Though to be fair, being stuck doing 29mph behind someone who hasn't realised that putting their headlights on full beam offers them a much better view of the road ahead can be a form of mental torture.

 :o

I knew this was coming - the time when I would have to fess us to being guilty of something featured on this thread. But thank God I now know that "tortuous" is a word.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Monolith on December 05, 2018, 01:27:35 pm
Heard a good one yesterday. "I'd asked for that pacifically".

Depends. Either they asked for it calmly, or it's an eggcorn.

True, true. Although I sense the subject in question wouldn't be aware of that word.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Steve R on December 05, 2018, 05:03:44 pm
tortuous is news to me too - thanks SamT.  Another demon someone helped me to exercise relatively recently was sliver vs slither.  As in, I thought it was a thin slither of cake.  When spoken in Hullish they're pronounced the same so can probably tribute it to that. 
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on December 05, 2018, 05:10:17 pm
Another demon someone helped me to exercise relatively recently

Fantastic.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on December 05, 2018, 05:27:10 pm
Another demon someone helped me to exercise relatively recently

Fantastic.

I can't tell whether this is intentional or not. In either case it gets a wad point.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on December 05, 2018, 05:39:07 pm
Likewise, benefit of doubt either way.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Steve R on December 05, 2018, 06:57:21 pm
dunno what your on about  :whistle:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Stabbsy on December 05, 2018, 09:05:27 pm
tortuous is news to me too - thanks SamT.  Another demon someone helped me to exercise relatively recently was sliver vs slither.  As in, I thought it was a thin slither of cake.  When spoken in Hullish they're pronounced the same so can probably tribute it to that. 

Double eggcorn? They’re pronounced the same so you can probably tribute attribute it to that
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on December 05, 2018, 10:22:54 pm
I read in the Guardian yesterday about Geoffrey Cox giving his legal view 'in no certain terms'.

About what you'd expect from a government minister I guess.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: shurt on December 06, 2018, 02:51:00 pm
Just on the radio "well I wasn't the sharpest spanner in the box"?!

This has all reminded me of the string of total cunts I've worked with over the years. Having 'wash up meetings', 'singing from the same spreadsheet', 'taking proaction' it just goes on and on. It's beyond me how any of them are delivered with a straight face. Blissful ignorance to irony I guess...
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on December 06, 2018, 03:32:09 pm
'singing from the same spreadsheet'

This is incredible. May have to start using it.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: shurt on December 06, 2018, 06:40:26 pm
'singing from the same spreadsheet'

This is incredible. May have to start using it.

Someone I worked with came up with this as a joke and slipped it into a meeting amid much sn**gering. Our idiot boss then started using it as a genuine thing. Unbelievable
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on December 07, 2018, 09:34:36 am
Looks like a storm's coming so we'd best batter down the hatches.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Johnny Brown on December 07, 2018, 11:47:47 am
Just seen on Twitter:

'Segways into the current debate'.

An enduring image! I suspect I'll never hear that again without it popping into my head.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on December 07, 2018, 11:50:34 am
Brilliant.

Heard earlier today.

"And asked if they would break the note down to smaller denomations"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on December 07, 2018, 11:58:17 am
Brilliant, JB.

Not actually an Eggcorn, but a close cousin: Tom Kerridge referred multiple times to The Progidy on Desert Island Discs this morning.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on December 07, 2018, 12:00:25 pm

'Segways into the current debate'.


 :whistle: :-[
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: spidermonkey09 on December 07, 2018, 12:14:20 pm
Just seen on Twitter:

'Segways into the current debate'.

An enduring image! I suspect I'll never hear that again without it popping into my head.

That useless gizmo has ruined a really useful word!
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: spidermonkey09 on December 07, 2018, 12:15:49 pm
Brilliant, JB.

Not actually an Eggcorn, but a close cousin: Tom Kerridge referred multiple times to The Progidy on Desert Island Discs this morning.

I have a friend who appears to believe that the well known Welsh climbing brand is in fact called DNM. He says it every time.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on December 07, 2018, 02:04:49 pm
I have a friend who appears to believe that the well known Welsh climbing brand is in fact called DNM. He says it every time.

I used to climb with a highly dyslexic mate who said "Piranha" and "Pretzel" instead of, well, you can work it out.

He also once wondered aloud why Five Ten made approach shoes called "Guide Teenies".  :lol:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: bigironhorse on December 07, 2018, 11:28:12 pm
"spare of the moment"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on December 07, 2018, 11:40:11 pm
He also once wondered aloud why Five Ten made approach shoes called "Guide Teenies".  :lol:

Been out for three weeks in Japan, where's yours?


(http://nashtag.me/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/paw-patrol-sneakers-toddler-girl-glitter-light-up-big-w.jpg)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Fultonius on December 08, 2018, 12:20:42 pm
Just seen on Twitter:

'Segways into the current debate'.

An enduring image! I suspect I'll never hear that again without it popping into my head.

I used this one the other day, the lass called me out saying "WTF"?  :-\ I had to go and check, as I had no idea i'd fumbled into an eggcorn. Segued! Segued!
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on December 08, 2018, 04:13:39 pm
He also once wondered aloud why Five Ten made approach shoes called "Guide Teenies".  :lol:

Been out for three weeks in Japan, where's yours?


(http://nashtag.me/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/paw-patrol-sneakers-toddler-girl-glitter-light-up-big-w.jpg)

That’s Paw Patrol merch Will.... surprised your nipper didn’t suss that!
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Monolith on December 10, 2018, 08:14:18 am
“He changed his name by depole”.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: fatneck on December 11, 2018, 04:23:49 pm
I used to look after a lad in a wheelchair who would often state that ignorant people were bolivious.

Always makes me smile :)
 
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on December 11, 2018, 04:29:44 pm
"Old timer's disease"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mark20 on December 11, 2018, 04:32:13 pm
You lot are very picky. When someone says somethink slightly wrong, I think for all intensive purposes we can work out what they mean
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on December 11, 2018, 04:37:21 pm
That's a bit lapse for me.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on December 11, 2018, 04:40:29 pm
Heal hooking.

I'd like to see variants for writing down "gaston" too.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 11, 2018, 05:11:49 pm
Heal hooking.

I'd like to see variants for writing down "gaston" too.

Is that like a Fluid Ounce but bigger?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: lagerstarfish on December 11, 2018, 06:18:34 pm
When someone says somethink slightly wrong, I think for all intensive purposes we can work out what they mean

but if the write it down wrong we can lynch them, right?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy popp on December 12, 2018, 11:23:32 am
"I’m still non the wiser as to why a slip shop and compromised advisory referendum result is seen as sacrosanct. Any ideas?"

Seen in a Guardian comment this morning.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Monolith on December 12, 2018, 11:43:34 am
"The central tenant of this is...."

Uttered by a senior colleague yesterday. Finding eggcorns everywhere at the minute!
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Steve R on December 12, 2018, 12:32:49 pm
'full gambit of emotions'
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on December 12, 2018, 12:53:48 pm
'full gambit of emotions'

That's a good one, definitely heard that.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on December 12, 2018, 07:47:37 pm
I think this Tory no confidence motion is a full gone conclusion.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mr chaz on December 13, 2018, 03:53:18 pm
Duck Tape
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on December 13, 2018, 03:59:25 pm
Vicer versa

Ying yang
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on December 13, 2018, 04:04:23 pm
Duck Tape

You mean this stuff?


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Duck-Tape-Pattern-Colours-Vintage/dp/B01MTF1024/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1544717038&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=duck+tape&psc=1
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: spidermonkey09 on December 13, 2018, 05:01:35 pm
Not an eggcorn, but I'm finding this thread intensely triggering.  :chair:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on December 13, 2018, 06:00:44 pm
aren't a lot of these just spelling mistakes  :-\
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on December 13, 2018, 06:37:39 pm
Interesting point- how far from the original does it have to be? I did read a report about an 'unkept' garden today - not unkempt...

Proper eggcorns - aren't they just malapropisms, reinvented?

Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on December 13, 2018, 07:17:58 pm
Duck Tape

You mean this stuff?


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Duck-Tape-Pattern-Colours-Vintage/dp/B01MTF1024/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1544717038&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=duck+tape&psc=1

As I understand it the name of the brand is a response to the mispronunciation. It’s hard to get to the bottom of it and would seem to be something of a hot topic in America- the Wikipedia page for duct tape is confusing and looks to have been compiled by at least two people with differing beliefs on the etymology of the term.

Obviously it’s gaffer tape over here anyway...

I agree that there are loads of things that are just misspellings/ mispronunciations on this thread that aren’t eggcorns in the proper sense. I’ve certainly posted some.  :sorry:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: joel182 on December 13, 2018, 07:24:02 pm
Obviously it’s gaffer tape over here anyway...

Gaffer tape most certainly isn't duct tape!
http://www.differencebetween.net/object/difference-between-gaffer-tape-and-duct-tape/
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 13, 2018, 07:24:33 pm
It was originally intended for repairing galvanised steel spiral air ducts, in it’s silvered form. They’re prone to rusting and blowing all over.
There was a stickier, tougher, black, version introduced in WW2 for damage control applications and popular with both Ship and Air crews. Known as “Harry Black Maskers”, do not ask why, it just is.
Still in use today.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on December 13, 2018, 07:42:10 pm
Gaffer tape most certainly isn't duct tape!
http://www.differencebetween.net/object/difference-between-gaffer-tape-and-duct-tape/

 :lol: I assumed they were the same and gaffer tape was the British term. Thanks for setting me straight.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: moose on December 13, 2018, 08:53:47 pm
More a malapropism than a genuine eggcorn, but saw this on a twitter feed:

"Not hard to get the info you type letters into GOOGLE and wallah!!!"

that is unless he was answering a query on "what's the Hindi word for a flunky"!?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on December 13, 2018, 09:31:26 pm
 :lol:

You type your question into Google and the Google wallah on the other end looks in an encyclopedia for you.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on December 17, 2018, 02:03:14 pm
Glad tidings we bring to you and your king!
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mark20 on December 17, 2018, 09:32:53 pm
That reminds me, I need to decorate the tree with ballballs
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 17, 2018, 09:39:54 pm
That reminds me, I need to decorate the tree with ballballs

Very “Hudson Hawk”...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PSHT8GnIxnQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PSHT8GnIxnQ)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Drew on December 17, 2018, 09:58:34 pm
I have a friend who appears to believe that the well known Welsh climbing brand is in fact called DNM. He says it every time.

I used to climb with a highly dyslexic mate who said "Piranha" and "Pretzel" instead of, well, you can work it out.

He also once wondered aloud why Five Ten made approach shoes called "Guide Teenies".  :lol:


I think there's a lot of people who still call Anasazis, Anastazis.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: jamesturnbull97 on December 17, 2018, 10:35:48 pm
Strider Wasilewski commentating on the Pipe Masters just used the phrase "Julian Wilson has hung on by the hair of his teeth"  :please:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on December 17, 2018, 10:56:43 pm
Strider Wasilewski commentating on the Pipe Masters just used the phrase "Julian Wilson has hung on by the hair of his teeth"  :please:

I don’t think weshould be laughing at Mr Wilson’s oral hygiene deficiencies.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: galpinos on December 18, 2018, 11:40:11 am
 "It's an eye saw on the street"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: fatneck on December 18, 2018, 04:13:41 pm
Just had an email from a lady hoping a funding bid would come off that was ended;

"Fingers cross"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on January 09, 2019, 04:39:59 pm
Just came across the same one twice in the space of minutes (one was on here!). We may have had this one already, but...

Daring do

(apologies to the culprit here, not meaning to have a go!)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on January 09, 2019, 05:03:00 pm
Class!!! -  :lol: ( ;) )
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on January 09, 2019, 06:55:24 pm
Just came across the same one twice in the space of minutes (one was on here!). We may have had this one already, but...

Daring do

(apologies to the culprit here, not meaning to have a go!)

Funny thing though, it’s not “actually” wrong.*

First recorded use was Chauser in “Troylus And Criseyde”, but he spelled it “Durring” and used “Don” for “do”.
And it means Daring.

(Guess who’s 13 yo daughter is a right geek and currently doing Chauser at school).

* For a given value of wrong.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mark20 on January 09, 2019, 07:42:06 pm
Just heard a great one on a football radio phone in " We need to take the game to them, and go for the juggler"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: grimer on January 10, 2019, 10:50:11 am
"Anyone fancy bake an egg?"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Rocksteady on January 11, 2019, 10:11:21 am
I have just inadvertently said "singing from the same honk sheet" in a conference call, much to the glee of several of my colleagues.

Don't know if it's an eggcorn or a Freudian slip or if I should just hang my head in shame.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: grimer on January 11, 2019, 12:31:56 pm
Here's one, The carrot and the stick.

This is taken to be a reward for doing what you are being told to do (the carrot) versus punishment for not doing it (the stick).

But, for one - a carrot is your reward? Wtf?

But I think this comes from an old cartoon thing. It is somebody sat on a donkey. He is holding a stick out in front of him and dangling from it is a carrot on a string, just out of reach of the donkey. The donkey goes forward, trying to get the carrot, but of course never reaches its desire.

Much funnier as an image, and way more powerful as a metaphor.

The carrot ON the stick.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on January 11, 2019, 12:44:05 pm
But I think this comes from an old cartoon thing. It is somebody sat on a donkey. He is holding a stick out in front of him and dangling from it is a carrot on a string, just out of reach of the donkey. The donkey goes forward, trying to get the carrot, but of course never reaches its desire.

That's definitely the origin. I imagine that at some point someone came up with the quirky variation of carrot or stick (the humour of which depends on knowing the original meaning) and that for some reason took off so much that lots of people are unaware of the original in the same way that lots of people don't know how to spell "allowed" due to not getting the joke in the name of the band Girls Aloud or slipmat due to the DJ's name.

Or, climbing related, Brad Pit(t).
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on January 11, 2019, 01:10:06 pm
No, no!

The rider has both the carrot and the stick. Tempt with the carrot or beat with the stick. Hence “carrot or the stick” either way you have no choice / present them with no choice.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on January 11, 2019, 01:12:00 pm
I'm with Matt on this one, the inference is usually that its best to tempt with a carrot, than beat with a stick, but either way, the donkey is going to pull the cart.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: spidermonkey09 on January 11, 2019, 01:19:37 pm
Another vote for Matt's interpretation. Although even that comes second to Tucker's interpretation...obviously NSFW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VReU7EgfPLc
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: grimer on January 11, 2019, 02:47:15 pm
I'd be tempted to say you are wrong. Carrot and/or the stick is a eggcorn.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on January 11, 2019, 04:06:54 pm
I'd be tempted to say you are wrong. Carrot and/or the stick is a eggcorn.
Wikipedia seems to think everyone is right, for a given value of right:

“Origin   

The earliest English-language references to the "carrot and stick" come from authors in the mid-1800s who in turn wrote in reference to a "caricature" or cartoon of the time that depicted a race between donkey riders, with the losing jockey using the strategy of beating his steed with "blackthorn twigs" to urge it forward, while the winner of the race sits in his saddle relaxing and holding the butt end of his baited stick.[2][3] In fact, in some oral traditions, turnips were used instead of carrots as the donkey's temptation.

Decades later, the device appeared in a letter written by Winston Churchill dated July 6, 1938, worded in such a way as to possibly bolster the "carrot or stick" side of later debates: Churchill writes, "Thus, by every device from the stick to the carrot, the emaciated Austrian donkey is made to pull the Nazi barrow up an ever-steepening hill."[4]

The Southern Hemisphere caught up in 1947 and 1948 amid Australian newspaper commentary about the need to stimulate productivity following World War II.[5][6]

The earliest uses of the idiom in widely available U.S. periodicals were in The Economist's December 11, 1948 issue and in a Daily Republic newspaper article that same year that discussed Russia's economy.[7”

So, the cartoon referenced the “carrot or stick”, the earliest literary references were “and stick”, but common usage is “or”?

Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on January 11, 2019, 04:46:50 pm
My understanding of the phrase is more aligned with Matt's. If you want to move a donkey (or change person's behaviour) you can use the threat of punishment (the stick) or offer an incentive (the carrot). Or, you can do both i.e. use the carrot and the stick. I've never thought of it as the carrot on the stick.

I think the way that the phrase is used makes it clear that that's the meaning. We never use "carrot and stick" to refer to offering someone an incentive to do something which they'll never actually get.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Falling Down on January 20, 2019, 03:33:47 pm
Don’t know if this one has been done yet - but this blew my mind a little bit just now.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/mind-your-language/2014/nov/18/mind-your-language-another-think (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/mind-your-language/2014/nov/18/mind-your-language-another-think)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: teestub on January 20, 2019, 03:55:24 pm
That’s interesting! Where does it stand in eggcorn terms when what is historically the incorrect phrase has now become far the most common? I’m sticking with Judas Priest 🤘
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: galpinos on January 21, 2019, 11:33:52 am
That’s interesting! Where does it stand in eggcorn terms when what is historically the incorrect phrase has now become far the most common? I’m sticking with Judas Priest 🤘

No idea, just stick it in the box with derring do?

Interesting sidebar on "all mouth and trousers" as my mum would say, or "all mouth and no trousers".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on January 25, 2019, 05:46:21 pm
I assumed this was my queue to leave the conversation.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on January 25, 2019, 06:31:08 pm
You can drive off in an Arctic lorry.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mark20 on January 26, 2019, 12:12:30 pm
The book stops here.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on January 26, 2019, 02:00:30 pm
That’s interesting! Where does it stand in eggcorn terms when what is historically the incorrect phrase has now become far the most common? I’m sticking with Judas Priest 🤘

I quite liked JP as a teenager but not heard that one.

In fact never heard of ‘another thing coming’ . It’s semantic nonsense in the context of having to revise your thoughts which is what the phrase has always meant afaik.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on February 07, 2019, 02:37:39 pm
https://www.sunnewsonline.com/financing-major-obstacle-refineries-rehabilitation-baru-nnpc-gmd/

Quote
The two carried out a thorough assessment of the set of the refineries, what needs to be done to the last bolt
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on February 08, 2019, 12:15:10 pm
You can drive off in an Arctic lorry.

I always thought it was Arctic as a kid, and that it applied to refrigerated lorries carrying chilled/frozen goods.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on February 08, 2019, 12:31:35 pm
Haha, I love it when there's an explanation for an eggcorn which is based in sound logic! Like someone explaining they thought it was damp squid because the calamari batter isn't very crispy.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on February 08, 2019, 12:40:58 pm
OT, but I once met a lass who said her name was Judith. I asked her if her surname was Prietht. She didn't get it.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 08, 2019, 12:59:17 pm
I had one of those bizarre revelation moments, walking through the storm, on my way home from the school run.

“It’s all swings and roundabouts”. For some reason, I’d always seen it as a statement of duality. Good and bad. Swings, good, roundabouts, bad.
Suddenly dawned on me, at random, that both are negative, pointless, get you nowhere  and yet consume a great deal of effort.

Wow, so much darker than I’d grasped.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on February 08, 2019, 02:21:19 pm
For some reason, I’d always seen it as a statement of duality. Good and bad. Swings, good, roundabouts, bad.
Suddenly dawned on me, at random, that both are negative, pointless, get you nowhere  and yet consume a great deal of effort.

You might be reading a bit much into that Matt. It's just a playground-themed version of "comparing apples to oranges" isn't it? Two things that are in the same category, different to each other but only in a subjective way.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on February 08, 2019, 03:48:28 pm
Some classic nursery rhymes have some dour themes though....
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy popp on February 08, 2019, 04:16:18 pm
For some reason, I’d always seen it as a statement of duality. Good and bad. Swings, good, roundabouts, bad.
Suddenly dawned on me, at random, that both are negative, pointless, get you nowhere  and yet consume a great deal of effort.

You might be reading a bit much into that Matt. It's just a playground-themed version of "comparing apples to oranges" isn't it? Two things that are in the same category, different to each other but only in a subjective way.

Isn't more that there's not much to chose between them in the end, like "six of one and half a dozen of the other"?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 08, 2019, 04:25:05 pm
I looked it up.

Originally, the phrase was “what you gain on the swings, you lose on the roundabouts”. So it’s origin was slightly less negative than “one step forward, two steps back”.
But not as positive, as “two steps forward, one step back”...
😜
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy popp on February 08, 2019, 04:32:08 pm
That's what I was aiming - it comes out the same in the end.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Rocksteady on February 12, 2019, 11:10:41 am
"On tenderhooks."

Just heard this in a meeting and prompted me to explore what 'tenterhooks' actually are:
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/on-tenterhooks.html (https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/on-tenterhooks.html)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tommytwotone on February 12, 2019, 11:57:57 am
Like difference between a "fine toothed comb" (wrong) and a "fine-tooth comb" (correct).

One that's not an eggcorn, more just a weird phrase is "to have one's work cut out for you", meaning that you've got a difficult task ahead.

Assuming the etymology of this is from the tailoring trade, surely someone cutting my work out for me makes the job easier - after all I don't have to cut it out myself?!

And if it's not from tailoring, what job is there where having my work "cut out for me" makes it harder?


Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: webbo on February 12, 2019, 12:57:45 pm
Like difference between a "fine toothed comb" (wrong) and a "fine-tooth comb" (correct).

One that's not an eggcorn, more just a weird phrase is "to have one's work cut out for you", meaning that you've got a difficult task ahead.

Assuming the etymology of this is from the tailoring trade, surely someone cutting my work out for me makes the job easier - after all I don't have to cut it out myself?!

And if it's not from tailoring, what job is there where having my work "cut out for me" makes it harder?
Surgery
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: galpinos on February 12, 2019, 01:01:17 pm
Like difference between a "fine toothed comb" (wrong) and a "fine-tooth comb" (correct).

One that's not an eggcorn, more just a weird phrase is "to have one's work cut out for you", meaning that you've got a difficult task ahead.

Assuming the etymology of this is from the tailoring trade, surely someone cutting my work out for me makes the job easier - after all I don't have to cut it out myself?!

And if it's not from tailoring, what job is there where having my work "cut out for me" makes it harder?

My mother told me (citation needed) that is was from tailoring (her mother was tailoress) and that the tailor's assistant has cut out so much work that the tailor would struggle to finish it. She has a tendency for making things up though........
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 12, 2019, 02:09:35 pm
Like difference between a "fine toothed comb" (wrong) and a "fine-tooth comb" (correct).

One that's not an eggcorn, more just a weird phrase is "to have one's work cut out for you", meaning that you've got a difficult task ahead.

Assuming the etymology of this is from the tailoring trade, surely someone cutting my work out for me makes the job easier - after all I don't have to cut it out myself?!

And if it's not from tailoring, what job is there where having my work "cut out for me" makes it harder?

My mother told me (citation needed) that is was from tailoring (her mother was tailoress) and that the tailor's assistant has cut out so much work that the tailor would struggle to finish it. She has a tendency for making things up though........

Probably not far off.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-wor1.htm (http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-wor1.htm)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: highrepute on February 12, 2019, 11:19:10 pm
Like difference between a "fine toothed comb" (wrong) and a "fine-tooth comb" (correct).

One that's not an eggcorn, more just a weird phrase is "to have one's work cut out for you", meaning that you've got a difficult task ahead.

Assuming the etymology of this is from the tailoring trade, surely someone cutting my work out for me makes the job easier - after all I don't have to cut it out myself?!

And if it's not from tailoring, what job is there where having my work "cut out for me" makes it harder?
Surgery

Barber
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: fatneck on February 13, 2019, 10:45:35 am
Received via email yesterday;

"..this time would enable the client to climatise sufficiently."
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on February 13, 2019, 12:25:20 pm
Like difference between a "fine toothed comb" (wrong) and a "fine-tooth comb" (correct).

One that's not an eggcorn, more just a weird phrase is "to have one's work cut out for you", meaning that you've got a difficult task ahead.

Assuming the etymology of this is from the tailoring trade, surely someone cutting my work out for me makes the job easier - after all I don't have to cut it out myself?!

And if it's not from tailoring, what job is there where having my work "cut out for me" makes it harder?
Surgery

Barber

Gardener
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on February 13, 2019, 04:19:39 pm
My colleague just said "It's a complete mix-mash" ;D I kind of like how appropraite that one is.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: highrepute on February 13, 2019, 11:16:29 pm
Like difference between a "fine toothed comb" (wrong) and a "fine-tooth comb" (correct).

One that's not an eggcorn, more just a weird phrase is "to have one's work cut out for you", meaning that you've got a difficult task ahead.

Assuming the etymology of this is from the tailoring trade, surely someone cutting my work out for me makes the job easier - after all I don't have to cut it out myself?!

And if it's not from tailoring, what job is there where having my work "cut out for me" makes it harder?
Surgery

Barber

Gardener

Editor

Hence the phrase "didn't make the cut"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy popp on February 14, 2019, 11:20:26 am
I thought I'd spotted one in the Guardian today when someone spoke about Uber applying a "surge charge" - but turns out that is exactly what Uber call a surcharge.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on February 14, 2019, 03:42:02 pm
I have many floors, pedantry is one of them. It's a relief to admit that; it's a real weight off my chest.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: dunnyg on February 14, 2019, 04:04:53 pm
Is it not a surge charge surcharge?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on February 14, 2019, 04:48:33 pm
Is it not a surge charge surcharge?

Technically it’s not a price on top of something - the whole price changes or ‘surges’ during peak/busy times. Dynamic pricing innit.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on February 15, 2019, 01:56:43 pm
Have we had "to set a president" yet?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on February 15, 2019, 04:54:17 pm
No, I'd like to set a president in concrete though. Preferably the present one.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mark20 on February 18, 2019, 05:03:59 pm
Just seen a good one on farcebook "no one battered an eyelid" 
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on February 18, 2019, 05:31:14 pm
Have you never eaten battered eyelids then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ofIBw3uMM
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on February 20, 2019, 09:53:08 am
Just heard "Longfaluted". A kind of eggcorny mix of convoluted and highfalutin.  ;D
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on February 20, 2019, 12:32:23 pm
portmanteau surely - long winded + highfalutin ?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on February 20, 2019, 12:47:31 pm
I'll ask the culprit what they meant tomorrow. To be honest I think they just "misspoke".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on February 21, 2019, 09:05:45 am
From our own correspondent:

I'm not that ofay with quieter options
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy popp on February 22, 2019, 01:34:13 am
I was just reading an American novel published in 1969 that used the obviously correct "I couldn't care less." Which got me wondering. Turns out "I couldn't care less" was only imported from Britain in 50s and began to be replaced by the illogical "I could care less" from the 60s onwards. So there you go.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: spidermonkey09 on February 22, 2019, 11:30:14 am
I was just reading an American novel published in 1969 that used the obviously correct "I couldn't care less." Which got me wondering. Turns out "I couldn't care less" was only imported from Britain in 50s and began to be replaced by the illogical "I could care less" from the 60s onwards. So there you go.

'I could care less' makes my blood boil. It just makes no bloody sense in the context.

"Aren't you late for that meeting?"
"Ah well, I could care less", ergo you actually care quite a lot. Arghhh!
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on February 22, 2019, 02:28:29 pm
I don’t know.

“I could care less”, doesn’t necessarily imply that the speaker cares a lot, merely that they could care less. Perhaps it’s ironic, as in “I could care less, but that would be difficult”.

Still, a fucking irritating thing to say, so I definitely could care less...
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on March 22, 2019, 09:19:14 am
Radio 1 DJ read out a text and said "self-depreciating". Not sure if the text was wrong, or her. Probably her, it was that really dozy one.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: fatneck on March 26, 2019, 11:23:37 am
Overheard in team meeting this morning;

"its a case of the horse door and bolted!!"
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Steve R on March 26, 2019, 02:06:37 pm
I hope everyone here (except pete) has signed that partition
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 26, 2019, 03:19:29 pm
Radio 1 DJ read out a text and said "self-depreciating". Not sure if the text was wrong, or her. Probably her, it was that really dozy one.
9

I may have missed something there, but...

“Self Deprecating”, might be the better form, but “Self Depreciating ”  is a valid phrase of similar meaning:
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/self-depreciating (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/self-depreciating)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2019, 05:03:42 pm
I stand corrected! Never ever heard it used.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 26, 2019, 05:20:16 pm
I stand corrected! Never ever heard it used.

I nominate myself for pedantic arsehole of the day....
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on March 27, 2019, 10:02:11 am
Second that.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on March 30, 2019, 10:05:41 pm
Nasal gazing?
https://mobile.twitter.com/PropertySpot/status/1101074031569178624 (https://mobile.twitter.com/PropertySpot/status/1101074031569178624)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on April 16, 2019, 09:43:29 am
https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2019/04/hardest_crack_line_yet_for_the_wide_boyz_-_black_mamba_514b-71917


Quote
In terms of sections, it breaks down into a 10m hand crack into a short Bombay horizontal body slot

Bomb bay surely? as in the slot in the bottom of a bomber's fuselage where the bombs fall out.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: andy_e on April 16, 2019, 09:54:19 am
I reckon so, but you just never know with some of the terminology that lot come up with.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on April 16, 2019, 09:56:27 am
Like the spicy mix of nuts and crispy bits that WW2 airmen took into the skies to keep themselves going?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 16, 2019, 10:06:18 am
https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2019/04/hardest_crack_line_yet_for_the_wide_boyz_-_black_mamba_514b-71917


Quote
In terms of sections, it breaks down into a 10m hand crack into a short Bombay horizontal body slot

Bomb bay surely? as in the slot in the bottom of a bomber's fuselage where the bombs fall out.

I believe there were often a lot of horizontal bodies in Bombay, though I understand that sanitation has improved.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on April 16, 2019, 11:05:34 am
Like the spicy mix of nuts and crispy bits that WW2 airmen took into the skies to keep themselves going?

Maybe because you need to Duck at that point?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on April 16, 2019, 12:06:47 pm
It’s French:
‘bombé’ means bulge. eg ‘Le bombé bleu’ above la Plage at Buoux- still not done?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cheque on April 16, 2019, 12:35:49 pm
It’s bombé if you’re describing a bulging overhang that looks like this this (http://www.ewindandsolar.com/i/2015/03/hooker-furniture-living-room-melange-nina-bombe-chest-with-blue-colour-and-wall-art-lane-love-chest-bombe-chest-for-sale-bombe-chest-silver-bombe-chest-black-bombay-chest-mirrored-bombe.jpg) but if you’re describing a bottomless chimney that looks like this (http://i2.wp.com/theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/KH-55-cruise-missile-from-Tu-160.jpg) it’s pretty obvious that it’s bomb bay. One use developed in France, one in the states, neither in India.  ;D
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on May 27, 2019, 01:11:01 pm
https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2019/05/jim_pope_-_through_and_through-71957

Quote
With mentors Gaz Parry and Gavin Symonds in toe

Sounds uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: JamieG on June 17, 2019, 10:18:41 pm
My wife just had a good one from a German colleague. A ‘different cattle of fish’.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on July 15, 2019, 01:55:19 pm
In googling to check that "Shot across the bows" was a very minor eggcorn, Google autocomplete threw up an entirely different order of mistake.

"Shot across the bowels".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: galpinos on July 15, 2019, 03:11:15 pm
In googling to check that "Shot across the bows" was a very minor eggcorn

It's not, is it?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on July 15, 2019, 03:16:19 pm
No
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on July 15, 2019, 04:05:24 pm
I think, strictly speaking, you should probably be saying shot across the bow. Ships only have a single bow and I presume that each warning shot fired would be against a single ship. Matt will be along in a moment to correct me on both of those points, I expect.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Duma on July 15, 2019, 04:21:09 pm
there's a port bow and starboard bow - something passing in front would be referred to as crossing the bows
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on July 15, 2019, 04:43:33 pm
What if it were a catamaran?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on July 15, 2019, 04:48:55 pm
Shit!
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tomtom on July 15, 2019, 04:58:30 pm
Shit!

Thats generally done in the heads. I'm sure thats a plural - no idea why.... OMM? :)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Duma on July 15, 2019, 05:37:45 pm
I'm speculating, but maybe from catheads?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: A Jooser on July 15, 2019, 05:47:48 pm
I think you guys are talking at cross porpoises.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on March 01, 2021, 05:35:18 pm
Worth a bump. Today I saw an advert on Facebook Marketplace for a second-hand Michael Wave: a box with a turntable that heats up food.

 :jaw:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 01, 2021, 06:43:51 pm
Shit!

Thats generally done in the heads. I'm sure thats a plural - no idea why.... OMM? :)

Because they were usually at the head of the ship, or bow (not bows, though it might be a fleet engagement). The Officers being accommodated aft of the mast (or Main Mast if more than one (also referred to as the “After Guard”)), sailors accommodated forward of the mast (hence phrases such as “20 years before the mast etc). So, the shit was as far from the Officers as could be arranged.
Amusingly enough, though, the Poop deck, was aft...

(https://i.ibb.co/nMTZvtD/04-D68027-2255-4290-BE3-B-03-EB8-B46-FA14.jpg)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: cowboyhat on March 04, 2021, 02:47:33 pm
Wife, (not native), showed me this on the nursery whatsapp group, (provenance of other woman unknown), talking about chicken pox:

Yes we need to 'per pear' for them all getting it

she had added the quotes in the message so not autocorrect
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Fultonius on March 04, 2021, 07:59:06 pm
Mum came up with "faffle" today - faff & hassle.  She was convinced it existed.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on March 04, 2021, 08:00:04 pm
 :thumbsup: It does now.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: moose on March 04, 2021, 08:16:27 pm
I've used "squalitude" (squalid solitude) to describe my more dissolute phases.  With lock-down and WFH, it's a portmanteau that I suspect now has more general application!
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on March 04, 2021, 08:33:01 pm
My wife once used the word lumbersome, which I asserted was a made up portmanteau of cumbersome and lumbering. A vigorous dispute ensued. Imagine my disappointment to learn it is actually a word.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on March 04, 2021, 09:51:43 pm
on that subject, my daughter loves huggles. Who can resist.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 04, 2021, 10:14:14 pm
My step daughter is named Lily.
Her mum is not even slightly religious, nor interested at all in anything similar.
Lily was 3 when I moved in. Her mum often called her “Bub Bubs”.
But, frequently, “Le-el-zee-bub”.

Which I, of course, misheard.
However, given the tantrums, I felt “Prince of Hell” wasn’t inappropriate.

Took me far too long to realise her mum had no idea who Beelzebub was.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: NaoB on March 08, 2021, 07:10:39 pm
Spotted this corker on the other channel today:

"more people travelling just a bit further, especially to honeypots, sends a signal to everyone else that it’s fine (socially acceptable) to do what you like.  That creates a snowboard effect."

Sounds exciting!
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Fultonius on March 08, 2021, 07:33:40 pm
Spotted this corker on the other channel today:

"more people travelling just a bit further, especially to honeypots, sends a signal to everyone else that it’s fine (socially acceptable) to do what you like.  That creates a snowboard effect."

Sounds exciting!

I'm trying to picture a "snowboard effect". Thinking spliffs, beanies, baggy pants (although I think the cool kids these days are rocking skinnies?).

Or maybe everyone gets out their cars, then sits in the middle of the path tying their shoelaces?

(I'm allowed to take the piss, I've snowboarded for years, when I'm not skiing)
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on March 08, 2021, 09:45:36 pm
Maybe people not used to bouldering on steep ground and ending up sliding downhill on their pads?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on April 04, 2022, 12:09:22 pm
My wife told me yesterday that one of her work colleagues is a "phantom of knowledge".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on April 11, 2022, 08:27:34 am
beautiful.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SamT on April 11, 2022, 05:08:56 pm
Not quite an Eggcorn, but a member of staff texted he was 'shitting through an ivory needle' the other week, calling in sick (again  ::))

We suggested he'd miss quoted and he was insitant it was 'nah its Nottingham Slang'.  I think not.   :lol:
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on April 11, 2022, 05:18:40 pm
Brilliant. Definitely an eggcorn.

Unless of course they're referring to the well-known biblical verse: it is easier for a midlander to shit through an ivory needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on October 05, 2022, 03:24:26 pm
"Bare in mind", they said.

"Yes", I thought.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Durbs on October 06, 2022, 09:27:22 am

My other half only learned in her 30s that it's "baubles" not "ball-balls" that you hang on Christmas trees.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 06, 2022, 10:21:45 am
"Bare in mind", they said.

"Yes", I thought.

Am I missing something? How do you know they were spelling it wrong in their head?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on October 06, 2022, 10:28:37 am
"Bare in mind", they said.

"Yes", I thought.

Am I missing something? How do you know they were spelling it wrong in their head?

I haven't been entirely truthful. It was written, not spoken.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: GazM on October 07, 2022, 11:44:39 am
Our 5 year old has been a source of some beautiful Eggcorns in recent years.
"Water-tall" for waterfall, which it is, obviously.
"Heart beep" for heartbeat.
And my favourite: "frogs-born" for frogspawn. :'(
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on October 07, 2022, 11:51:20 am
All perfectly sensible.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Scouse D on October 07, 2022, 12:12:17 pm
My 4 yo daughter keeps going to her room for a "Piece of Quiet"
Lovely stuff
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: GazM on October 07, 2022, 02:11:02 pm
That's great. Almost belongs at the Roaches.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mrjonathanr on October 07, 2022, 07:41:56 pm
There was one on ukc about ‘paying devil’s advocate’ the other day.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: lorentz on October 07, 2022, 10:51:20 pm
There was one on ukc about ‘paying devil’s advocate’ the other day.

£666p/h?
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: SA Chris on October 07, 2022, 11:36:38 pm
I like saying playing the devil's avocado, or playing the Dick Advocaat (which raises less amusement as he becomes more obscure).
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: tc on April 10, 2023, 04:55:25 pm
Brian Bilston
On Tender Hooks

Let me cut to the cheese:
every time you open your mouth,
I’m on tender hooks.
You charge at the English language
like a bowl in a china shop.
Please nip it in the butt.
On the spurt of the moment,
the phrases tumble out.
It’s time you gave up the goat.
Curve your enthusiasm.
Don’t give them free range.
The chickens will come home to roast.
Now you are in high dungeon.
You think me a damp squid:
on your phrases I shouldn’t impose.
But they spread like wildflowers
in a doggy-dog world,
and your spear of influence grows.
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Ged on April 11, 2023, 07:45:05 am
Our neighbours daughter (in her 20's) has spent her whole life referring to frog eggs as "frogs born".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Wood FT on April 12, 2023, 12:07:04 pm
Our neighbours daughter (in her 20's) has spent her whole life referring to frog eggs as "frogs born".

That is perfect
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Stabbsy on November 23, 2023, 10:08:37 am
The all-powerful YouTube algorithm came up with this from Dave Gorman this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78UnTO-emCg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78UnTO-emCg)

Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: mark20 on November 25, 2023, 06:41:35 am
Great. Saw Dave Gorman last year, very good, and the most beardy men in chequered shirts I've ever seen in one place

I was walking with my family the other week, when my stepdad's dog was a bit aggressive to our dog, which is apparently unusual because normally around other dogs "she doesn't batter an eyelid"

Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: stone on November 25, 2023, 09:17:18 am
A shop in Leamington had a display of aubergines labelled "over-jeans".
Title: Re: Eggcorns
Post by: Will Hunt on November 25, 2023, 10:10:09 am
A shop in Leamington had a display of aubergines labelled "over-jeans".

 :clap2:

You win.
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