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the shizzle => news => Topic started by: Sypeland on June 17, 2008, 03:25:02 pm
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Bit of a cheeky post as it's commercial :whistle:
But I have developed a new hand balm for climbers. It is quite unique and really does seam to work. It is a quite complex mix of natural ingredients, the two key ones being Marigold and Comfrey which have been used for many years to help wounds heal.
there are other ingredients including St Johns Wort, which stimulates tissue repair and Myrrh which which has antiseptic effect on inflamed skin.
I'm not making any wild claims about it as some people may well not like it, but as well as possibly helping your skin it may help with inflamed joints and localised nerve pain.
Anyway I have 6 pots to give away, but I want to give them to people who climb a lot and will be willing to give me some honest feed back.
Please e-mail me at fran@sypeland.com
You can find it here http://www.sypeland.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43&products_id=494
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All the free pots now taken.
They'll be out in the post tomorrow.
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Ha ha, just got the Sypeland new letter too. Bombarded by advertising :lol:
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Ha ha, just got the Sypeland new letter too. Bombarded by advertising :lol:
Yep a bit of :spam: can go along way :guilty:
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Bahh!
Greedy spammer. :spam: Grumble grumble etc. ;)
And further more; I can't believe that I have missed out on some free stuff :wall: doh!
Have you got a plan for publishing the results of your rigorous scientific testing by 6 computer-using freeloaders?
Mhyrrhr sounds like a good idea - I used a mouth wash containing it to get rid of a very stubborn bout of mouth ulcers - but it could be seen as being a type of resin for enhancing friction. I hope it will only be used post-climbing... ;)
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Five pots matched latched and dispatched to Sheffield, strange that :-\
One pot to Cornwall, he'll probably water it down with Lemonade :lol:
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Tut tut francis. To gain a good across the board response, you shoudl have sent 5 pots to different parts of the country to gain good feedback from various rocktypes - Gritstone / Dartmoor Granite / South Wales Limestone / Northumberland Sandstone / Aberdeenshire Granite
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I did send one to
Jacky Godoffe
c/o The random guy with the gear van
The car park
Rocher aux Sabots
Fontainebleau
France
:great:
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Good effort on opening a bunk house up there Francis, hope it goes well as a venture.
Oh hang on , balm.
;)
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or perhaps you should have sent one to me as I climb regularly on many rock types and have used most hand creams on offer
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He knows you'll buy one anyway. What's two quid? NOTHING.
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He knows you'll buy one anyway. What's two quid? NOTHING.
Two quid is £4.99 less than the retail price (http://www.sypeland.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43&products_id=494).
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No problem, Jim just has to pay nothing three times. And then half of nothing. What's that? Still FUCK ALL.
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No problem, Jim just has to pay nothing three times. And then half of nothing. What's that? Still FUCK ALL.
Your maths is impecable! I'll have to try the (flawed) logic out next time I'm in need of some cash...
Me : Hello Mr Bank Manager, I'd like to discuss a non-re-payable loan, call it a gift if you like.
Bank Manager : Oh reaaallly?
Me : Yes, but please hear me out first. Now we all know that £2 is, in the grand scheme of things NOTHING. So how about gifting me 500,000 NOTHING's, since anything multiplied by NOTHING will always be NOTHING.
Bank Manager : Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
:)
Apologies for dragging things :off:
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Good effort on opening a bunk house up there Francis, hope it goes well as a venture.
Jesus - is that true? Gives me the shivers - will be like a real-life scene from the League of Gentlemen - wake up in the morning to find your underwear 'rearranged' and FH in a tweed dress and blouse cooking his own 'special' sausages in the morning.......
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Fuck, i forgot to steal some off Tom, from what you were saying was in it it sounds amazing. good feedback so far?
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Good effort on opening a bunk house up there Francis, hope it goes well as a venture.
Jesus - is that true? Gives me the shivers - will be like a real-life scene from the League of Gentlemen - wake up in the morning to find your underwear 'rearranged' and FH in a tweed dress and blouse cooking his own 'special' sausages in the morning.......
I think FBSF was going for a barn / balm based joke, but I can't be sure.
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If this stuff turns out to be shit i'll have to phone the balm disposal squad.
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Another thread lost to the pun-ters :'(
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Dave would have been balmy not to start punning with this kind of material.
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Just tried purchasing a pot but the site seems to want me to buy a minimum of 16. I presume a minimum order setting has been accidentally switched on, or am I just being dense... very possible.
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feck, I'll fix it now!
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am I just being dense... very possible.
Hard to say, has your head shrunk at all? Are you becoming critical of almost everything and everyone?
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And another of francis' money-making ploys is foiled...
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Just tried purchasing a pot but the site seems to want me to buy a minimum of 16. I presume a minimum order setting has been accidentally switched on, or am I just being dense... very possible.
It should be fixed now, any problems then phone me 01423 712922.
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am I just being dense... very possible.
Are you becoming critical of almost everything and everyone?
Yes, but that's nothing to do with Leroy but possibly why I enjoy his company.
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Bit of feedback: After a few initial uses seems pretty good. One logistical point: It would be cool if it was in a plastic pot rather than the chunky glass type supplied (less chance of breakage when traveling). I guess it would be cheaper for you to send out too.
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Cheers Greg, I think people have been surprised at how different it is to Climb On. And how well it seams to work.
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So far I like the fact it makes your hands smell like mulled wine. Very festive.
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Seems pretty good to me. I haven't climbed this week (pulled muscle in back) but I've been using it nonetheless (instead of dream cream that I normally use daily). Usually after a week off my skin would have started peeling but it's in perfect nick. :)
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I also like the way it absorbs into your skin far quicker then Climb On. Although in my view it smells too appetizing, I keep wanting to eat it. ;)
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Lets face it, Climb on doesn't absorb into your skin at all. You just spend hours spreading it thinner and thinner, then you try to wash it off but its waterproofed your hands, so then you take you contact lenses out and discover they are perfect for removing it and you spend the folllowing day squinting through beeswax before throwing them away. Wank.
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Lets face it, Climb on doesn't absorb into your skin at all. You just spend hours spreading it thinner and thinner, then you try to wash it off but its waterproofed your hands, so then you take you contact lenses out and discover they are perfect for removing it and you spend the folllowing day squinting through beeswax before throwing them away. Wank.
Makes jerking off fun tho.
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Lets face it, Climb on doesn't absorb into your skin at all. You just spend hours spreading it thinner and thinner, then you try to wash it off but its waterproofed your hands, so then you take you contact lenses out and discover they are perfect for removing it and you spend the folllowing day squinting through beeswax before throwing them away. Wank.
Do you always wank after throwing your contact lenses away ? ...... Maybe a bit too much of draining the old love pump is what caused your necessity to wear them in the first place ....
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Some feed back from one of the lucky ones to get a FREE pot.
"Thought I’d drop you a line now that I’ve been using the hand cream for a week or so. I have used the cream every day without fail and have to say I am certain that my overall skin quality has improved a lot. I don’t really suffer with dry cracked skin, however, I do suffer with my skin peeling once it becomes too thick, especially if training indoors. The cream seems to have stopped the peeling from occurring and in general my skin feels more supple and thicker, so I will continue to use it and contact you again in a month or so when I have been using it for a bit longer."
Neil Travers.
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I've been using one of the freebies for just over a week too and like others am pleased with the results. Its reduced the constant layers of skin peeling away from my hands that I seem to suffer from (despite religious washing of chalk from hands after climbing and wearing marigolds when doing the washing up). As others have mentioned it absorbs into the hands fairly quicker and doesn't leave any residue. I've also found that it helps the nicks and small scratches on the backs of my hands from (poor) jamming heal a lot quicker. It smells great too, vaguely reminiscent of tiger balm but not as strong.
The wife keeps on nicking it too so it gets the :thumbsup: from her too.
All in all a great product and I shall be ordering more when this runs out (although I think Greg made a good point about an alternative container).
Cheers Francis :great:
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Just put an online order though, so will post results in a few weeks!
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Match Latched and Dispatched 8)
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Match Latched and Dispatched 8)
Well, can't fault the service! Got product 16 hours after order was placed!
First thoughts.
As mentioned before, glass container might cause problems when travelling.
The size of pot might make access to bottom tricky once its getting empty.
Smells great.
Love the retro label!
As for how good it is, i'll let you know!
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I was lucky enough to get a freebie too, thanks Francis, which arrived well packaged the very next day. Been using it consistently ever since to the exclusion of anything else and it's the best handcream that I've tried; that's to say, better than ClimbOn, Vaseline Intensive & any number of others. I do batter my hands a fair bit, especially on the pads when bouldering so anything that can help protract the life of my skin is a bonus.
It absorbs quickly and completely, leaving your hands smelling good enough to eat (though this might be a problem for inveterate nail-biters). I've had far less problems with skin despite some heavy bouldering, two warm and humid indoor sessions and filling every available gap with trad on god's own rock. Will be getting more UK based action in over the next few weeks before heading over to California for the summer, hopefully the pot will last until I get back :)
In a nutshell, get a pot.
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I've had my tub over a week but that amount of time is not long enough to really evaluate something like this - I would not be able to pin down any improvments to the product rather than other factors or placebo. So to that effect, I'll let you all know in good time. Plus since its limestone season at the moment its pretty easy on skin compared to grit or font, so not a very demanding test. crunch time is october!
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Hopefully the balm should be available in larger 50ml pots made out of plastic within a couple of weeks.
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Plastic pots are now available in 50ml at £9.99. Which means you get more balm for your hard earned! ;D
And it's more cost effective to post out :thumbsup:
http://www.sypeland.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43&products_id=516 (http://www.sypeland.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43&products_id=516)
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Cool, will definitely get some when my J Tree stuff runs out. It's only lasted 5 years.
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Some more considered feedback: I've continued using Francis' concoction and my skin's never been better. Much less in the way of flaky or cracking problems whilst pads and callusses feel more supple and less likely to tear and split.
Just ordered a refill in the larger plastic tub - £12.99 now.
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I'm nearly at the end of my freebie sample tub, and although its hard to really say unless I climb symetrical problems and use another product on one hand to compare, I would say this stuff is good, I've generally had quite good skin since using it. Unlike Climb-on it won't give you leathery flapper-prone skin with daily use, and its not greasy and seems to absorb fast, plus i like the smell.
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Well, a lot might have realised Sypeland Outdoors has been sold :'(
But I have a new job ;D
But Sypeland Climbers Balm is still mine :dance1:
It has a new web site, which might have a few teething problems, but hey hoe order from here;
http://www.climbersbalm.com/ (http://www.climbersbalm.com/)
If you want some that is!
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Wot you doing now then Frank? Hope it goes well
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Landed on my feet as an assistant buyer and web page author for facewest.co.uk . Lots of new climbing brands coming on line in the Spring.
Things are panning out pretty cool. Hours are good and I'll have more time to climb.
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Nice. Good company. I'm sure your extensive skiing knowledge will come in useful :).
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Indgredient profile looks really good, when I run out of Handy Gurugu, I will definitely try some out :)
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There have been a couple of delays in Balm going out, the new site not communicating with my e-mail too well.
Hope I'm on top of it now.
Need to get the cauldron out for a another batch!
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A friend had some and I was really impressed. Now I just have to stop my family from thinking climb on is something that I use often enough to need a new bar every Christmas (I'm usually still waiting for the last application to soak in) and get them onto this shizzle.
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Bought a pot of this lovely stuff after reading this thread. After getting over the initial "£12 for that tiny pot?" thing and realising its actually going to last ages i concur that its good stuff and well worth the cash. Very relaxing to be able to spend post climbing thinking about how buttery smooth my skin feels rather than how much it resembles old leather.
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Glad to hear you like it. Sorry about the £12 but it's the ingredients that dictate the price, they don't come cheap, plus it has to be slightly profitable if it's going to subsidies trips to Font, that's subsidies not pay for. Though it's got a long way to go yet.
Cheers
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The price really is pretty reasonable really, i reckon its going to take a good few weeks before i finish using the stuff stuck to the lid...
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....but it's the ingredients that dictate the price, they don't come cheap, ....
FH - I dread to think what your 'special ingredients' might be - I certainly wouldn't be rubbing them on my hands.....
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The couldron has been mixed and there is plenty made.
There are a couple of pots on back order, they'll be out Monday morning.
climbersbalm.com
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Not that it's really needed but this stuff is brilliant. I've suffered from eczema on my hands for years and climbing trips used to be a constant battle to not let them get too bad. Just been in Font for 2 weeks, (4 weeks use total,) and my hands have come back in the best nick they've been in for almost a year, proper healthy skin rather than my usual cracked and sometimes bleeding state.
Massive thank you to sypeland, it's fantastic stuff :great: :bow:
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....but it's the ingredients that dictate the price, they don't come cheap, ....
FH - I dread to think what your 'special ingredients' might be - I certainly wouldn't be rubbing them on my hands.....
http://www.climbersbalm.com/ingredients.php (http://www.climbersbalm.com/ingredients.php)
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my mam likes it :bow:
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I used it over six days climbing in Siurana and it worked a treat. Great moisturising properties and it healed all the little nicks and cuts perfectly.
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Cheers for all the good comments, Balms going well and it's getting quite a following.
Glad it's working for you all. :)
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....but it's the ingredients that dictate the price, they don't come cheap, ....
FH - I dread to think what your 'special ingredients' might be - I certainly wouldn't be rubbing them on my hands.....
You know you want to Andy!
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I've had a couple of emails re the web site not working.
These were in reference to www.sypeland.com (http://www.sypeland.com) , this is nothing to do with me, I sold that domain and the shop some months ago. I have no idea what's going on with it.
However Sypeland Climbers balm web site is mine and works fine, www.climbersbalm.com (http://www.climbersbalm.com) .
Cheers
Fran
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I tried some and don't rate it compared to climb-on, have you considered trying to make a bar form? Would be good to see a climb-on style bar which didn't cost about a grand an oz.
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I tried some and don't rate it compared to climb-on, have you considered trying to make a bar form? Would be good to see a climb-on style bar which didn't cost about a grand an oz.
You must have the most absorbent skin in the world then if you prefer Climb On - the stuff never seems to sink into my skin at all. What Climb On is good for is packing into big skin rips and the like but for anything else it's Climbers Balm all the way.
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I tried some and don't rate it compared to climb-on, have you considered trying to make a bar form? Would be good to see a climb-on style bar which didn't cost about a grand an oz.
If that's what you want then buy a lump of bees wax.
I purposely didn't go down the 'Bar' route because I wanted somthing that would absorb easier into the skin. Absorption is critical to get the essential ingredients into the skin. And these ingredients are why it's reassuringly expensive. In fact the cost to produce the balm has gone up over the last year but I've held the price so far.
Cheers
Fran
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I've had a couple of emails re the web site not working.
These were in reference to www.sypeland.com (http://www.sypeland.com) , this is nothing to do with me, I sold that domain and the shop some months ago. I have no idea what's going on with it.
However Sypeland Climbers balm web site is mine and works fine, www.climbersbalm.com (http://www.climbersbalm.com) .
As per the footer to your posts!
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woah francis, just checked your website out - is that photo in the header of the site a reversed/mirrored shot of Jon on DWR? It's freaking me right out looking at the Crucifix at that strange angle
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Just ordered my 2nd pot. As others have said I like climb on for cuts etc but find this better to use regularly after climbing to keep hands in good condition. Good product and sold by one of our own!
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woah francis, just checked your website out - is that photo in the header of the site a reversed/mirrored shot of Jon on DWR? It's freaking me right out looking at the Crucifix at that strange angle
Yes, it's Jon. He built the site and reversed the photo. It's confused a few but looks really good.
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Just ordered my 2nd pot. As others have said I like climb on for cuts etc but find this better to use regularly after climbing to keep hands in good condition. Good product and sold by one of our own!
Cheers, really glad you like it. I posted it in Harrogate on Sat'. They didn't have my regular bags in the PO so one had to go in an envelope. If it was yours was did it get to you OK.
Though one pot posted a couple of weeks a go took TEN days to get to a guy just below Earl.
I am considering selling it at the crag - Straight discounted £10. Would people go for that?
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Got a couple of pots the other day and its helping my hands heal up far faster than Climb On was, cheers Fran.
As to selling at the crag, depends which crag you're going to be at :P
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Just ordered my 2nd pot. As others have said I like climb on for cuts etc but find this better to use regularly after climbing to keep hands in good condition. Good product and sold by one of our own!
Cheers, really glad you like it. I posted it in Harrogate on Sat'. They didn't have my regular bags in the PO so one had to go in an envelope. If it was yours was did it get to you OK.
Though one pot posted a couple of weeks a go took TEN days to get to a guy just below Earl.
I am considering selling it at the crag - Straight discounted £10. Would people go for that?
I haven't got it yet but with royal mail i wouldn't be suprised if its later this week! cheers
Similar to slackers, I would buy at the crag if its the one I'm at (likely to be an obscure crag in the churnet valley)!
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I am considering selling it at the crag - Straight discounted £10. Would people go for that?
Get a T shirt printed up to wear every time you go to the crag Francis.
"CLIMBER'S BALM - stop me and buy some"
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If it came with a free ice cream i'd buy a large pot at the crag for £12.99*. Can I also take this moment to say the balm is chuffin good stuff as you use such a small amount and sorts your hands out good and proper.
*terms and conditions would apply, subject to me having 12.99 and whether you had waffle or wafer cones.
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Would a UKB banner advert perhaps facilitate sales?
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I've bought myself a second tub today also. Really like this product, and it smells nice which is good.
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Okay, I will start to carry a couple of pots.
If it's dry then West Chevin boulders is where I'll be quite often, between 12.45 and 1.25pm.
Other than that I'll Tweet where I'm going, if I can remember.
If you see an old Red Alfa 156 you'll know I'm about.
I would consider a banner add, but a few pots of balm may not cover it.
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I would consider a banner add, but a few pots of balm may not cover it.
I'm sure the Insect Overlords could negotiate terms based on a couple of free pots.
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Could be the way Chris.
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Take up residence at Bas Cuvier and sell your wares. Unless someone else has already thought of that?! ;)
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Could do a distribution deal with neil h?