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Title: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: james on April 09, 2007, 04:15:40 pm
Please DO NOT climb at Sonlerto (Dosage 3 and 4) or Brione (village area).  The locals and land owners are VERY angry to say the least and have threatened to spray the boulders with grease if people climb there!!!  Talks are under way between local developers and residents to try and negotiate the allowance of climbing in the winter months but sadly, so far nothing has been agreed.

These are great areas and there is a chance that access could be agreed but we all need to stay away until further notice.  It would be a tragedy to loose these amazing blocs forever!

Thanks for your help.

James
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Adam Lincoln on April 09, 2007, 05:10:31 pm
That would be a shame, some of the best bouldering in Switzerland!

ps, hope you got pics ok, and effort on Ganymede!
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: dontfollowme on April 09, 2007, 05:20:50 pm
What happened to cause this?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: monkey boy on April 09, 2007, 07:53:31 pm
What happened to cause this?

It is just a long time feud between climbers and the farmer at Sonlerto, apparently he wants to spray oil on all the boulders. Brione is due to the little village you have to walk through. Fingers crossed though both places are ace!
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: james on April 09, 2007, 09:04:14 pm
A long time feud is a bit OTT!
Basically, The farmer, who has been up there all his life, has a few small fields (where the boulders are) that are "his life" and understandably feels uneasy about a load of strangers on his land.  When climbing in the valley began to get developed (around 5 years ago), an agreement was made not to climb on the boulders in his field.  Steini, the developer asked other climbers including Dave G and Chris S to leave the boulders but I guess they ignored him and now anyone (including myself) who has seen Dosage assumes it is cool to climb there.
We were warming up and the farmer came over and shouted something at us in Italian/German/French??? about not walking in his field.  He then left and we presumed as long as we stayed on the path, all was well.  Half an hour later, Steini turned up and informed us of the situation so we packed up to leave just as the farmer turned up fuming.  I guess he had asked us to leave before and we had misunderstood.  He was really pissed and was threatening to spray the boulders with oil but Steini managed to calm him down.
Hopefully, some sort of arrangement will get sorted out and climbing may be allowed in the winter months (I hope so anyway as I still have unfinished business :wall:) but until this is confirmed, it is of the utmost importance that no one climb on these boulders.

The story at Brione is similar but I guess more to do with lots of people shouting/shitting etc in a beautiful, quiet village, 10 min from the nearest road.  Just a bit of a shock for people who have lived in such a peaceful place all their life. 

Lets hope it all turns out ok.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: PATRuL on April 26, 2007, 07:10:02 pm
Yo you are so lucky to go there youth
Hows your fingers
good work
sink deeper and you will conquer more rocks
at the mo i only do pebbles
and rubbing my brush over canvvases

just ask pleasantly and with a smile and all will conquor love and thanks YP
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Jim on August 21, 2007, 12:40:10 pm
Any more news from steini about any of this word?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Bubba on September 27, 2007, 05:49:05 am

Can i unsticky this now? is it still news worthy of stickyness?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: a dense loner on September 27, 2007, 09:55:58 am
i would say it's been up long enough
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Stubbs on September 27, 2007, 10:01:48 am
Maybe move it to the abroad section and have it as a sticky there, just in case anyone comes looking for info?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: neil h on September 27, 2007, 10:28:05 am
I bumped into a guy in italy the other day and he said there wasnt a probem anymore up there, but i dont know if this is true or not. just what he said.


Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: a dense loner on September 27, 2007, 11:14:23 am
he didn't have a pile of bricks in his hands did he?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Jaspersharpe on September 27, 2007, 11:15:52 am
:lol:
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Jim on September 27, 2007, 03:37:36 pm
was he asking where to put the green stone from the mountain?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: a dense loner on September 27, 2007, 03:40:51 pm
how could i have forgot about that? my stomach hurts
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: ned on September 27, 2007, 03:51:30 pm
Quote
how could i have forgot about that?
I forgot too. That was so funny.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Jim on September 27, 2007, 03:54:46 pm
I bet you didn't forget about dense's little visits in the night tho  ;)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: saltbeef on September 27, 2007, 05:22:11 pm
or the rubber fist. I'm upstein and ready to go again...
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Jim on September 28, 2007, 07:06:27 am
never mind the rubber fist. I'm bringing the butt plug with the horses tail tail on this next trip

(http://www.jacksfloggers.co.uk/Images/deluxponytail.jpg)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: james on September 28, 2007, 11:07:46 am
Still no official word on the situation but last I heard the farmer had been taking pot shots!!!  Again, this is only word of mouth but I for one will be staying away :o
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: tenzing on October 29, 2007, 12:48:55 pm
So what's deal here now?

Keen to know, cause from what I've Brione is supposed to be SICK!

Cheers
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 29, 2007, 03:26:17 pm
it's still shut
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Paul B on October 29, 2007, 03:28:06 pm
So what's deal here now?

Keen to know, cause from what I've Brione is supposed to be SICK!

Cheers

Sick? Rad? Kill ty kill.  :wank:
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Johnny Brown on October 29, 2007, 07:48:58 pm
That was Dense by the way, I don't know anything about access here, and if I did, I'd be sure to give some provenance for my statement.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: ferret on November 03, 2007, 03:24:54 pm
johnny u really shud start loggin out, of all the people on here i wudnt want posting on my account, dense comes second (im sure he can guess whos 1st) ;)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: a dense loner on November 03, 2007, 06:36:43 pm
right that's the last random login i did sorted out. my statements need no such provenance, whatever that means. well it's pretty obvious what it means but i've never heard it before.
a gentleman always comes second ferret
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: cowboyhat on November 05, 2007, 11:25:26 am
Paul B - you aren't big enough to call someone a wanker because you believe their phraseology is uncool.

Brione = CLOSED
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: neil h on August 25, 2010, 11:10:40 am
i dont think its important, you can sticky my font issue instead  :)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: CanadianDave on March 25, 2011, 09:23:30 pm
I've been seeing problems like black mirror and the Dosage Jump in a lot of videos listed as being in Brione, wondering if

A) People are either unaware of or ignoring the access issues?

B) These problems are not in a sensitive area?

C) Access is no longer an issue for this area?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Adam Lincoln on March 25, 2011, 09:30:11 pm
I've been seeing problems like black mirror and the Dosage Jump in a lot of videos listed as being in Brione, wondering if

A) People are either unaware of or ignoring the access issues?

B) These problems are not in a sensitive area?

C) Access is no longer an issue for this area?

I was only aware of problems at Sonlerto. I certainly haven't seen any footage of anything there of late? Black mirror is elsewhere, and not sure what you mean by Dosage jump?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Paul B on March 25, 2011, 09:38:19 pm
Off the wagon perhaps?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Adam Lincoln on March 25, 2011, 09:40:26 pm
Off the wagon perhaps?

On the wagon. Off the wagon. On the wagon.
Not seen any footage of this knocking around apart from James years ago.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Ru on March 26, 2011, 07:46:33 am
The Brione meadow areas are still banned. During the winter the ground is often snow covered and the farmers don't work the land and some of the houses are empty till the spring so people get away with going. But you're still not supposed to be there.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT news about Sonlerto and Brione
Post by: Ru on March 26, 2011, 10:37:50 am
The jump I think he means is the 6c corner groove with a jump to the top at Brione.
(http://www.climbing.com/exclusive/problog/danielwoods/DanielWoods-PB2-unmed-brion.jpg)
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