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Title: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: shark on November 16, 2017, 11:26:32 am
 Peak Area newsletter now up (https://www.thebmc.co.uk/Handlers/DownloadHandler.ashx?id=1526) Thanks again to Cofe and Dave

Peak Area Meeting will be on Wednesday 22nd November at the Maynard Arms in Grindleford.  Food will be available from 6pm - 7pm, and the meeting will start at 6.30pm.

Hopefully this will tempt you all to arrive earlier so that we can start on time - as we have some big topics to discuss as well as holding the AGM.

The rough schedule is:

6.30pm - a presentation / Q&A session about Stanage, with Sarah Fowler (Chief Executive of the Peak District National Park Authority)
7pm - AGM
7.30pm - ordinary meeting, including a presentation from the Organisational Review Group.
9.30pm - the annual quiz (courtesy of cheque and Dave)

Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: mark20 on November 16, 2017, 11:43:41 am
"I have been told, but have not been able to confirm, that at least some of the ‘Private Land’ signs above Standing Stones have disappeared. Anyone know?"
I was there about 2 weeks ago and there is still a fairly large Private Land sign on the walk in to Standing Stones along the quad track, and some on the other side of the road too.

Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: shark on November 16, 2017, 09:11:09 pm
Road works will affect access to the Maynard for anyone travelling from Sheffield (via the Fox House):

The B6521 north (uphill) of the Maynard is currently closed for roadworks.  Anyone approaching from Sheffield (via the Fox House) will need to allow an extra 10-15 minutes for their journey, and loop round to the west via Hathersage.

From Hathersage take the B6001 (Station Road) to Grindleford.  At Grindleford, turn left on to the B6521 through the village, over the river and up the hill to the Maynard.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on November 23, 2017, 12:59:58 pm
Quiz questions!

Round Zero- which Peak crags are home to these rites?

Jelly Baby Slab
Mars
Chocolate Blancmange Gully
Gobstopper
Kit Kat
Toothache

Whisky Wall
Drunken Sunday
Beer Matters
The Double Double
DT’s Route
Calling the Shots

Top Shelf Mantel
Indecent Exposure
Hairy Legs
Gripple Nipple
Rubber-faced Wall
Golden Shower

Torture
Burglar in my Bedroom
Battery Crack
Counterfeit
Murder of the Innocent
Jailhouse Rock
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: Stabbsy on November 23, 2017, 04:23:31 pm
Drunken Sunday is at New Mills Torrs - first ascentionist of the neighbouring route (Drank on Saturday) was my old schoolteacher who first introduced me to climbing.

Gripple Nipple, Counterfeit - Stanage
Burglar in my Bedroom - Bell Hagg
Indecent Exposure - Raven Tor
Chocolate Blancmange Gully - it's one of the On Peak Rock esoterica ticks, Mam Tor?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: SamT on November 23, 2017, 05:07:50 pm
choc blamange is Horseshoe,
Dt's Route is at Moat Butress
Indecent is at Raven Tor

Are the only ones I know for certain.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: kc on November 23, 2017, 05:12:04 pm
Without look them up.

Chocolate Blancmange Gully- that's the mud bank at the back of Horseshoe quarry.
DT's route- is a superseded route on Moat buttress.
Gobstopper- long wall Chee Dale.
Edit
Beat me to it sam
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: nai on November 24, 2017, 02:29:52 pm
Kit Kat also Stanage
Torture appropriately is at Ramshaw
Battery Crack Roches I think

Ashamed to know so few
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: SamT on November 24, 2017, 08:56:31 pm
Ashamed to know so few

^^ this..

Been looking a few up where I thought I knew the answer, turns out I didn't and their pretty obscure some of them!!



Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 01, 2017, 12:23:50 pm
Ashamed to know so few

^^ this..

Been looking a few up where I thought I knew the answer, turns out I didn't and their pretty obscure some of them!!

Yeah, the quiz turned out to be really pretty tough: 28 out of a possible 60 was the best score. It's quite hard to pitch the difficulty- as I said more than once after being met with a room full of blank faces, Dave (who did half the rounds but it doesn't look like he's posting on here at the moment  :'( ) said to me earlier in the evening "I reckon this quiz is too easy".  :lol:

I'll post another of my rounds in a bit.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: 205Chris on December 01, 2017, 12:33:08 pm
It's quite hard to pitch the difficulty

I know that feeling. Think I got heckled around question 6 when I did it a couple of years ago. Nothing like the 'dying on stage' feeling  :)

Unfortunately I was away this year but the biggest surprise when I did it was no one managed to identify a picture of Jerry Moffatt from back in the day which I'd assumed would be a gimme in a room full of peak stalwarts.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: highrepute on December 01, 2017, 12:39:01 pm
I thought it was just right tbh. A a lot of the questions were of the kind that you can have a good guess at or have a good discussion about even if you don't know the answer.

It's like the classic pub quiz question who won the League Cup in 1978. Pretty much nobody knows the answer to that but everybody can name any number of teams that could have won it.

Anyway, I enjoyed it but I was on the winning team. Thanks Cheque and Dave.

Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: 205Chris on December 01, 2017, 01:21:01 pm
Anyway, I enjoyed it but I was on the winning team. Thanks Cheque and Dave.

Who's doing the 2018 quiz?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 01, 2017, 02:14:00 pm
It's quite hard to pitch the difficulty

I know that feeling. Think I got heckled around question 6 when I did it a couple of years ago. Nothing like the 'dying on stage' feeling  :)

I thought yours was ace.

We did get heckled a bit, but with the advantage of following what must surely have been the most mind-numbing Peak Area meetings ever the crowd were only ever going to be on our side.  ;)
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: Will Hunt on December 01, 2017, 02:27:00 pm
More questions please.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: SamT on December 01, 2017, 02:37:08 pm

Was there a mime this year - I loved Robs Marcel Marceau version of Wuthering a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 01, 2017, 02:41:53 pm
Round 2: Stars in their Guides

What's the earliest route in the current Rockfax Peak Limestone "Top 50"?

According to the current definitive guides, there's only one 3 star Diff in the Peak. At which crag is it located?

Again according to the current definitive guides, Stanage is the crag with the most three star E1s. Which crag has the second most?

Again according to the current definitive guides, only one crag has five 3 star E5s. Which one?

There are only eight 3 star routes in the whole of Bob Whitaker's 1976 Chew Valley Guide. How many can you name?

What is the hardest "bold star" problem in the Vertebrate Churnet Bouldering guidebook?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: highrepute on December 01, 2017, 02:47:22 pm
Anyway, I enjoyed it but I was on the winning team. Thanks Cheque and Dave.

Who's doing the 2018 quiz?

Kim Layland, Toby Wright and Ellie Pygall. With a promise to include some Hillwalking questions.

So get swatting up on your ring ousel, reachy boulder problems and female peak climbing knowledge!? Maybe...
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 01, 2017, 02:57:59 pm
With a promise to include some Hillwalking questions.

Peter the ever-enthusiastic hillwalking guy has volunteered to set some of these if needed.

I feel pretty guilty that me and Dave served up an almost completely rock climbing based quiz, especially as I'd promised that I wouldn't.

When I signed up last November I thought "I'll have my film finished by then and I'll do the best, most ambitious and fairest quiz the Maynard has ever seen!" between me and Shark we had a host of preparation-heavy multimedia rounds planned to dazzle and amaze all involved.

Come this November Shark had bailed and I was still working on the film so plans were scaled back a bit...  ::)
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: Will Hunt on December 01, 2017, 03:02:03 pm
I don't really know the answers to these but I'm going to make some guesses.

Round 2: Stars in their Guides
According to the current definitive guides, there's only one 3 star Diff in the Peak. At which crag is it located?
Black Rocks?

Again according to the current definitive guides, Stanage is the crag with the most three star E1s. Which crag has the second most?
Millstone?

Again according to the current definitive guides, only one crag has five 3 star E5s. Which one?
The Roaches?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 01, 2017, 03:10:04 pm
Wrong on all counts I'm afriad Will.

No-one got the E1 question right: 3 star E1s are a rare and oddly-distributed resource in the Peak.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: SamT on December 05, 2017, 01:08:15 pm
I was thinking millstone for the E1s, with all the embankment routes, but looked it up on t'other channel and there are about 4 on the entire crag.

Roaches??  or somewhere completely obscure and random, like Shining Cliff, or Brassington.

Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 05, 2017, 01:11:07 pm
somewhere completely obscure and random

 :yes:

Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: nai on December 05, 2017, 01:47:03 pm
The E5s must be High Tor?

Is the Diff the Roaches (Inverted Staircase)?

And I'll fire Standing Stones in for the E1s?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 05, 2017, 02:41:17 pm
The E5s must be High Tor?

 :no: That's what Shark thought but it has only four in the current guide (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1vMZpX-D4L.jpg) , it might have more in the imminent one though.

Is the Diff the Roaches (Inverted Staircase)?

:no:

And I'll fire Standing Stones in for the E1s?

BOOM  :clap2: Wadded.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: nai on December 05, 2017, 02:58:09 pm
So E5s are the Roaches

Diff is Boomerang at Ramshaw
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 05, 2017, 03:06:48 pm
So E5s are the Roaches

Nope, only three at the Roaches.

Diff is Boomerang at Ramshaw

That gets VDiff.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: andy_e on December 05, 2017, 03:10:37 pm
Are the E5s at Wimberry?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 05, 2017, 03:14:13 pm
Are the E5s at Wimberry?

Just the one 3 star E5 at Wimberry- Consolation Prize.

I'm surprised no-one's got the E5s one yet- it's not an obscure crag at all.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: galpinos on December 05, 2017, 03:21:56 pm
Are the E5s at Wimberry?

Just the one 3 star E5 at Wimberry- Consolation Prize.

I'm surprised no-one's got the E5s one yet- it's not an obscure crag at all.

I would guess at Froggatt but thinking about it, can't name them?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: 205Chris on December 05, 2017, 03:23:36 pm
Are the E5s at Wimberry?

Just the one 3 star E5 at Wimberry- Consolation Prize.

I'm surprised no-one's got the E5s one yet- it's not an obscure crag at all.

I would guess at Froggatt but thinking about it, can't name them?

Millstone?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 05, 2017, 03:27:06 pm
Millstone?

 :thumbsup: Edge Lane, Green Death, Great Arete, London Wall & Coventry Street.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: nai on December 05, 2017, 04:36:03 pm
Winnats?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: nai on December 05, 2017, 06:37:50 pm
Ok, so Matterhorn Ridge is VDiff, but a soft one like Boomerang  ;D

Cheated and perused the guides to find it.  Bit of an obscure curiosity but everyone will know of it, at least.

Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: Andy B on December 05, 2017, 07:37:15 pm
The easiest way up Tegness Pinnacle.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: Andy B on December 05, 2017, 07:40:12 pm
Going to guess at Witness the Churnetness for the Churnet bold star one.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 05, 2017, 08:38:20 pm
The easiest way up Tegness Pinnacle.

Going to guess at Witness the Churnetness for the Churnet bold star one.

2/2  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 06, 2017, 02:44:15 pm
Round 5: "You're calling it what?!"

What does Himmelswillen mean?

What does Quietus mean?

What does Quien Sabe mean?

What is Croton Oil?

What is a Five Finger Exercise?

What does Mushin mean?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: nai on December 06, 2017, 03:03:43 pm
 :o does the Maynard have phone reception? Asking for a friend  :whistle:
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: andy_e on December 06, 2017, 03:03:57 pm
Himmelswillen literally "to want heaven" therefore death wish?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: Stu Littlefair on December 06, 2017, 03:50:42 pm
Round 5: "You're calling it what?!"

What does Quien Sabe mean?


Who knows?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 06, 2017, 03:52:02 pm
:o does the Maynard have phone reception?

It has phone reception but the internet I get there is too slow to be of any use in a quiz situation.

Himmelswillen literally "to want heaven" therefore death wish?

Not really.

Who knows?

Evidently you do.  ;)
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: andy_e on December 06, 2017, 03:54:53 pm
Himmelswillen literally "to want heaven" therefore death wish?

Not really.


Ach scheisse.
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: SamT on December 06, 2017, 04:13:02 pm
Had to look all those up!!   :(

enlightening!
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: Stabbsy on December 06, 2017, 04:17:15 pm
Five Finger Exercise is a piano related thing I think - a kind of training drill for pianists?
Title: Re: Peak Area AGM & meeting Weds 22 Nov and newsletter
Post by: cheque on December 06, 2017, 06:58:34 pm
Five Finger Exercise is a piano related thing I think - a kind of training drill for pianists?

 :thumbsup:
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