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places to visit => indoor walls => Topic started by: GraemeA on June 21, 2010, 03:05:23 pm
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Just thought I'd remind you that the BBC is this weekend and the World Cup will be the weekend after.
The Sheffield World Cup will be webcast, as will the one from Eindhoven this weekend.
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Least most the top boys will be in Eindhoven!
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Forecast looks good, bring on the slopers :lol:
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Forecast looks good, bring on the slopers :lol:
Tents don't get hot in the sun do they? :shrug:
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Tents don't get hot in the sun do they? :shrug:
The sun, it's that big yellow thing in the sky, it heats things up. Sorry, just remembered who you are ;)
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Least most the top boys will be in Eindhoven!
Well you had better hope they all qualify for the semi final as they have contigency plans to come back
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The sun, it's that big yellow thing in the sky, it heats things up. Sorry, just remembered who you are ;)
I thought it was a red-top :)
Least most the top boys will be in Eindhoven!
Well you had better hope they all qualify for the semi final as they have contigency plans to come back
Good to hear that they might be back. I obviously hope that the lads will all do well out there, but I kinda want them all to be at the BBCs. Maybe they could just drive home overnight even if they are in the final. I'm sure that wouldn't affect their performance in any way ;)
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who does the scheduling for these events? why are the british championships on the same weekend as a world cup round? its not rocket science that the 'top 3' are going to go to the world cup, incidently the same 3 guys get help from the bmc, n that's just the guys. mina's also there n pretty sure diane will be? whats the score?
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who does the scheduling for these events? why are the british championships on the same weekend as a world cup round? its not rocket science that the 'top 3' are going to go to the world cup, incidently the same 3 guys get help from the bmc, n that's just the guys. mina's also there n pretty sure diane will be? whats the score?
what!?!
what a load of shit! i agree, this is crazy!
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Dense - chance to have the BBC on the World Cup wall versus clashing with Eindhoven. Hmmm, let me think about that one for a moment :-\
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right now uve had a moment to think what've u come up with? i still don't understand, i know ure comin at it from a wall point of view but u must know that whoever wins will basically ave an empty vessel. if the 'top 3' aren't taking part then whoever wins will just ave come 4th really. thats a pretty harsh reality, n will be seen by some as an out of order statement i know. scheduling must be hard but to ave so many elsewhere seems a bit careless.
ps i'd rather ave the bbc's at broomgrove rd with all the best guys competing than at the best wall in the world with half of them, but i suppose that wouldn't make money :P
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anybody know what the time the bbc's are today?
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women quals now, men 11. allgedly, finals normally 4ish
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ps i'd rather ave the bbc's at broomgrove rd with all the best guys competing:P
...and there'd be no point in me winning them - it'd prove nothing. ;D
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Dense - chance to have the BBC on the World Cup wall versus clashing with Eindhoven. Hmmm, let me think about that one for a moment :-\
They were nice boards graeme and very good problems, the setters did a great job. I actually had a really nice time, despite climbing like a sack of spuds.
The only downside was dropping from the top, that was a little bit scary.
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So did the wads get back in time? They didn't seem to win for the results i saw. Too tired?
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A few wads did come back and still managed to get in the final. However it wasn't a level playing field as they were tired from a short drive to Holland :furious:
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So did the wads get back in time? They didn't seem to win for the results i saw. Too tired?
See, this is the problem.
I think its a strange decision to opt for a better wall than having the top British competitors at errr the BBC's, its not as if there aren't any good comp walls around these days is it?
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So did the wads get back in time? They didn't seem to win for the results i saw. Too tired?
See, this is the problem.
I think its a strange decision to opt for a better wall than having the top British competitors at errr the BBC's, its not as if there aren't any good comp walls around these days is it?
Rockover even offered to host the BBC's for free (So i was told? I might be wrong?)
I think not having your top competitors at your top British event is well, errr, ridiculous. :shrug:
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A few wads did come back and still managed to get in the final. However it wasn't a level playing field as they were tired from a short drive to Holland :furious:
Jonny didn't look too tired though did he.
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Rockover even offered to host the BBC's for free (So i was told? I might be wrong?)
It was Awesome Stoke that made the offer although Rockover might also have done. But how is that relevant?
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Rockover even offered to host the BBC's for free (So i was told? I might be wrong?)
It was Awesome Stoke that made the offer although Rockover might also have done. But how is that relevant?
Ahh my mistake. I did actually mean Stoke. Doh!
Well it's not really, but it means it could have been moved. Albeit last minute.
Either way, i am not going to loose sleep over it. Was just saying its like having the Football world cup finals without Brazil, Germany and Argentina.
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Ahh my mistake. I did actually mean Stoke. Doh!
Well it's not really, but it means it could have been moved. Albeit last minute.
Either way, i am not going to loose sleep over it. Was just saying its like having the Football world cup finals without Brazil, Germany and Argentina.
Yes it could have been moved, to Stoke or The Works or wherever. But that is not the point. Having the BBC in a PUBLIC place on a fuck off fantastic wall that acted as a dry run for the World Cup is the point. Dave/Stew/Diane deciding to go to Eindhoven instead of the BBC was their choice. Leah & Gaz decided not to go to Eindhoven.
If you and Dense are saying that Nigel and Leah are not true BBC Champions and are in reality 4th/2nd place then you are being fucking rude to them. Leah won last year and Nigel looked fucking good, good enough to beat Gaz who beat Dave in the CWIF.
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Yes it could have been moved, to Stoke or The Works or wherever. But that is not the point. Having the BBC in a PUBLIC place on a fuck off fantastic wall that acted as a dry run for the World Cup is the point. Dave/Stew/Diane deciding to go to Eindhoven instead of the BBC was their choice. Leah & Gaz decided not to go to Eindhoven.
Leah and Gaz don't got world rankings at stake.
If you and Dense are saying that Nigel and Leah are not true BBC Champions and are in reality 4th/2nd place then you are being fucking rude to them. Leah won last year and Nigel looked fucking good, good enough to beat Gaz who beat Dave in the CWIF.
Its not just me and Dense that are saying it. Its been a hot topic at the crag. All of the same opinion.
And lets not turn this into something its not. No one is saying they aren't true champions. They may very well still have won. But we will never know.
Anyway, what's done is done.
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Yes it could have been moved, to Stoke or The Works or wherever. But that is not the point. Having the BBC in a PUBLIC place on a fuck off fantastic wall that acted as a dry run for the World Cup is the point. Dave/Stew/Diane deciding to go to Eindhoven instead of the BBC was their choice. Leah & Gaz decided not to go to Eindhoven.
Leah and Gaz don't got world rankings at stake.
If you and Dense are saying that Nigel and Leah are not true BBC Champions and are in reality 4th/2nd place then you are being fucking rude to them. Leah won last year and Nigel looked fucking good, good enough to beat Gaz who beat Dave in the CWIF.
Its not just me and Dense that are saying it. Its been a hot topic at the crag. All of the same opinion.
And lets not turn this into something its not. No one is saying they aren't true champions. They may very well still have won. But we will never know.
Anyway, what's done is done.
Well Dense is saying that they aren't true champions. I know that we will never know.
You are ignoring my points, yes Gaz & Leah don't have top 10 rankings to defend but neither did Dave or Stew when the decision was made. It might be the talk of the crag but the crag does not see the whole picture.
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Either way, keep up the good work! :kiss2:
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And what the fuck language do you speak? "don't got world rankings at stake. " is meaningless bollocks, please write in something that approaches English.
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And what the fuck language do you speak? "don't got world rankings at stake. " is meaningless bollocks, please write in something that approaches English.
Fuck off. No need for that. Was a typo.
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And what the fuck language do you speak? "don't got world rankings at stake. " is meaningless bollocks, please write in something that approaches English.
Fuck off. No need for that. Was a typo.
A typo for what exactly? Please explain.
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Sponsorship is only offered to the top 4 places in the team (if I'm correct). This means that if you wanted to get money to compete the next year then you would have to do as many WC comps as possible. Also the team manager chose the people who would go to Holland.
Either way this could have been avoided by hosting the comp on another date and still allowing THE team to train on the wall before the comp.
I'm not saying that Nige or Leah wouldn't have won, but it would have made for a better competition
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And what the fuck language do you speak? "don't got world rankings at stake. " is meaningless bollocks, please write in something that approaches English.
Fuck off. No need for that. Was a typo.
A typo for what exactly? Please explain.
I meant haven't, not 'don't'.
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And what the fuck language do you speak? "don't got world rankings at stake. " is meaningless bollocks, please write in something that approaches English.
Fuck off. No need for that. Was a typo.
A typo for what exactly? Please explain.
I meant 'havent, not 'don't'.
"I meant 'havent, not 'don't'." is not a typo. Do you understand the difference between a spelling mistake (ie a typo) and actually writing a different word? Apparently not
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And what the fuck language do you speak? "don't got world rankings at stake. " is meaningless bollocks, please write in something that approaches English.
Fuck off. No need for that. Was a typo.
A typo for what exactly? Please explain.
I meant 'havent, not 'don't'.
"I meant 'havent, not 'don't'." is not a typo. Do you understand the difference between a spelling mistake (ie a typo) and actually writing a different word? Apparently not
Grow up Graeme. Before you come across even more badly than you already have.
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still allowing THE team to train on the wall before the comp.
But the wall would not have existed before the World Cup without the BBC happening beforehand
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Is it that much of an advantage for the British team to train on the wall beforehand at the clear expense of their success in the BBCs? But our best climbers didn't even get to climb on the wall!!
Does this approach not devalue our homegrown competition, and also give an unfair advantage over other foreign competitors?
Are you suggesting that our success in foreign comps is more important than national comps?
This argument does not compute if you are suggesting that success in domestic comps is undisputed when most of the top competitors were not there/severely handicapped.
P.s. I checked thoroughly for spelling mistakes before posting this
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Fuck off. No need for that. Was a typo.
Grow up Graeme. Before you come across even more badly than you already have.
"Was a typo". Sorry Adam but I must pull you up on this one. You should have said "It was a typographical error on my part" you fucking idiot, stop destroying the English language.
And if you are going to punter people for some harmless piss taking then you are indeed a twat. Or is that a typo and I meant twit.
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Fuck off. No need for that. Was a typo.
Grow up Graeme. Before you come across even more badly than you already have.
"Was a typo". Sorry Adam but I must pull you up on this one. You should have said "It was a typographical error on my part" you fucking idiot, stop destroying the English language.
And if you are going to punter people for some harmless piss taking then you are indeed a twat. Or is that a typo and I meant twit.
As i said before. Grow up Graeme. Before you come across even more badly than you already have.
This is ukbouldering, not ukclimbing.
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:wank:
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:wank:
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Yep, i think your job here is done.
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Is it that much of an advantage for the British team to train on the wall beforehand at the clear expense of their success in the BBCs? But our best climbers didn't even get to climb on the wall!!
Does this approach not devalue our homegrown competition, and also give an unfair advantage over other foreign competitors?
Are you suggesting that our success in foreign comps is more important than national comps?
This argument does not compute if you are suggesting that success in domestic comps is undisputed when most of the top competitors were not there/severely handicapped.
P.s. I checked thoroughly for spelling mistakes before posting this
I am having an argument/discussion/whatever with Adam and he has puntered me but only after a direct reply from me. So why are you puntering me after no direct argumnet/discussion/whatever?
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Graeme, you are being rude to Adam and that is why I puntered you.
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Graeme, you are being rude to Adam and that is why I puntered you.
If you are going to punter people for being rude to others then you will have your work cut out. Have you puntered Adam for telling me to fuck off? No thought not.
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why do you feel the need to get so arsey and rude Graeme? There is no need for it. This is not the first time this has happened, and not the first time you have offended people who are just giving an opinion (or not, as the case may be... you know what I am talking about). This is a forum, and also a reflection of the world.. you know, where people actually have different opinions - whether they are the same as yours or not.
Pointing out typographical errors do not maketh the man.
Anyway, apologies to everyone for the digression. That's me over and out.
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Yes it could have been moved, to Stoke or The Works or wherever. But that is not the point. Having the BBC in a PUBLIC place on a fuck off fantastic wall that acted as a dry run for the World Cup is the point. Dave/Stew/Diane deciding to go to Eindhoven instead of the BBC was their choice. Leah & Gaz decided not to go to Eindhoven.
Leah and Gaz don't got world rankings at stake.
If you and Dense are saying that Nigel and Leah are not true BBC Champions and are in reality 4th/2nd place then you are being fucking rude to them. Leah won last year and Nigel looked fucking good, good enough to beat Gaz who beat Dave in the CWIF.
Its not just me and Dense that are saying it. Its been a hot topic at the crag. All of the same opinion.
And lets not turn this into something its not. No one is saying they aren't true champions. They may very well still have won. But we will never know.
Anyway, what's done is done.
Well Dense is saying that they aren't true champions. I know that we will never know.
You are ignoring my points, yes Gaz & Leah don't have top 10 rankings to defend but neither did Dave or Stew when the decision was made. It might be the talk of the crag but the crag does not see the whole picture.
I'm really glad it was held in the park on what was a beautiful warm weekend, but I can see where the others are coming from, as it didn't really feel like the British Championships ...but that may just be because there wasn't any drizzle and people seemed to be enjoying themselves.
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Handbags at dawn, only way to solve this one.
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Bloodyhell chalk bags at Dawn! Ice no need to put words in my mouth graham I ave no qualms in saying what I think. Ice meant uve. I've nothing but respect for people like gaz etc. My point was simple, they always are I'm no genius. If the best comp climbers aren't at the comp then what's the point? I'm saying tey're the best cos that's what rankings tell us
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If the best comp climbers aren't at the comp then what's the point? I'm saying tey're the best cos that's what rankings tell us
Stew wasn't there last year either though, so the comp was only one missing little-dave and one Diane due to the world cup.
Maybe if I had done better I would be upset, or if I was in Dave's position
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still allowing THE team to train on the wall before the comp.
But the wall would not have existed before the World Cup without the BBC happening beforehand
Graham what exactly does this mean? Was there some deal that both had to happen on the same wall?
Great thread btw
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Stew wasn't there last year either though, so the comp was only one missing little-dave and one Diane due to the world cup.
The results in Eindhoven:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=56076 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=56076)
...do make you raise your eyebrows though. Not bad placings in a world cup event.
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Why weren't the BBC's held the weekend after Cliffhanger/the World Cup round? Am I missing something obvious?
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Don't think the council will let them keep the wall up in the park for the week after.
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Don't think the council will let them keep the wall up in the park for the week after.
Thought as much. Shame.
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Don't think the council will let them keep the wall up in the park for the week after.
They would have done but they would not have subsidised it - the BBC (a free to watch event) is a good advert for the World Cup (a pay event). And the advantages of having everything built a week earlier are enormous for the council.
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If the best comp climbers aren't at the comp then what's the point? I'm saying tey're the best cos that's what rankings tell us
Stew wasn't there last year either though, so the comp was only one missing little-dave and one Diane due to the world cup.
Maybe if I had done better I would be upset, or if I was in Dave's position
maybe thats true on paper rodma but ned n mina had to get back from holland after poor performances on the friday, driving takes its toll etc. apologies to john partridge who did the same but who i forgot about. so them 3 were certainly in no shape to compete, esp john who was throwing up all the way back, i suppose he's a southerner so doesn't count tho. so them 3 n dave make 4 of our best comp climbers. we cud argue that 3 of the 4 were there but i'm a pragmatist. actually i don't care about comps at all so couldn't care less, just trying to keep it real homies.
bmc diary for nx yr. have bbc's on day when best bbc has to offer are available
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If the best comp climbers aren't at the comp then what's the point? I'm saying tey're the best cos that's what rankings tell us
Stew wasn't there last year either though, so the comp was only one missing little-dave and one Diane due to the world cup.
Maybe if I had done better I would be upset, or if I was in Dave's position
maybe thats true on paper rodma but ned n mina had to get back from holland after poor performances on the friday, driving takes its toll etc. apologies to john partridge who did the same but who i forgot about. so them 3 were certainly in no shape to compete, esp john who was throwing up all the way back, i suppose he's a southerner so doesn't count tho. so them 3 n dave make 4 of our best comp climbers. we cud argue that 3 of the 4 were there but i'm a pragmatist. actually i don't care about comps at all so couldn't care less, just trying to keep it real homies.
bmc diary for nx yr. have bbc's on day when best bbc has to offer are available
You're quite right, I agree with you re: BBC's etc.
I was just pointing out that it was a good fun comp, on good boards in a nice setting. Hopefully there won't be a similar clash in future.
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Hang on, it doesn't matter who did or more importantly didn't enter. The winners won and they are the British champions. That's competitions. If people are injured, banned or just don't enter well tough titty. That's like saying that Malc hasn't entered these comps in the past years so those winners wouldn't have won because he would have. That's the nature of comps. I'd certainly take a BBC win whether or not the competition was at the highest standards. Nobody remembers who didn't turn up just who won.
Fantastic effort Leah & Nigel. Oh and also to Travs who's at least 10 years older than Gaz who was probably 18 years older than most of the competitors.
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Fantastic effort Leah & Nigel. Oh and also to Travs who's at least 10 years older than Gaz who was probably 18 years older than most of the competitors.
Firstly I don't think anyone is taking anything away from Nige / Leah 's wins.
That's competitions. If people are injured, banned or just don't enter well tough titty.
...or are abroad defending their world rankings on the same day? The fact that the people offered that opportunity are the highest ranked in Britain and thus having them missing for the BBC's is slightly oxymoronic.
I can see your earlier points Andy but this isn't a case of just not entering etc. Its a needless complication / confliction. Ok, the decision was made so that it could be enjoyed by all on a public comp wall and that no doubt had its plus points but its clear that it also has its drawbacks.
Hopefully there won't be a similar clash in future.
Sums it up nicely.
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thank you paul. u seem to be talking sense these days, nats been accessing your account again?
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FFS! Look North have just ruined my morning by showing a close up of Graeme A talking about this weekend's comp.
He did appear to be sober though.
I'm off to DFBWGC to recover.
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FFS! Look North have just ruined my morning by showing a close up of Graeme A talking about this weekend's comp.
He did appear to be sober though.
Yeah, mine too. Made me spit muesli on our nice rug, and rub my eye sockets.
I think he was mumbling about making everyone fall off, but it was early so I could have been mistaken.
Can we have some kind of early warning for this kind of thing - a bit like those strobe/flashing light warnings they do?
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Either show stuff like that after the watershed or tag it with a warning like "this next report contains scenes that
some most people may will find distressing"
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Personally I think that the suggestion that the credibility of the BBC was reduced because of the potential non appearance of a potential winner or two is utter shite, as has been pointed out already, ffs it's not as if I sneaked into third place behind Percy's dog and the park keeper is it?
Adam, You've been guilty of using 'your' instead of "you're" (etc) on so many occasions I really can't be bothered to find a few examples, so perhaps rather than being a twunt you should just admit that you were too lazy, drunk or what ever to pay attention to what you were typing. Far better that than carry on as you have.
I think an apology is in order, if you have any idea of the work and personal committments that go into an event like this you'd realise that a potential clash of a domestic comp with the first world cup bouldering event to be held in the UK (I could be wrong) with all that goes with it is a small price to pay.
From the perspective of a paying punter I thought that the comp was really very well organised and the event overall goes from strength to strength. It's easy to snipe from the margins but when you consider the overall economic situation to get the event to develop as it has gives it the potential to go on and become a calandar fixture and attract not only the world's best climbers but also other genuinely exciting events.
As for it being a 'pay' event, yeah fuck me a whole £5, what do they say you get 'nowt for nowt'?
But, then again it would probably clash with the British Moaning Cup so best not come along eh? :-[
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Adam, You've been guilty of using 'your' instead of "you're" (etc) on so many occasions I really can't be bothered to find a few examples, so perhaps rather than being a twunt you should just admit that you were too lazy, drunk or what ever to pay attention to what you were typing. Far better that than carry on as you have.
It's easy to snipe from the margins but when you consider the overall economic situation to get the event to develop as it has gives it the potential to go on and become a calandar fixture and attract not only the world's best climbers but also other genuinely exciting events.
pot kettle black? what is wrong with you people? are you the spelling police or summit? why not have a pop at dense he can't spell for shit
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How do we spell calendar? Ha ha ha
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I don't know how do we spelll it, i plede not giving a shit and stuff innit.
Actually, I couldn't be arsed reading my contribution.
RED the point is that if you're unable to communicate effectively in your own language then it fundamentally undermines the validity of the point you're seeking to make.
As for spelling and Dense's shocking internet downwifdakidz etc. I wouldn't be psuprised if that's a paraody, besides I've only ever puntered someone for such and offence and I was drunk at the time and in a bad mood.
Of course we all make typographical errors from time to time, but as greyhum has pointed out there's a difference between an honest typo, as per my f.p. above and an illiterate fuck up. Grown ups know the difference, are you a grown up?
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From the perspective of a paying punter I thought that the comp was really very well organised and the event overall goes from strength to strength.
Whoa :o Hold the front page.
Where's the anti-comp invective??. I'm certain that you gave me both barrels for being mildly supportive about comps on UKC a few years ago. Is this some new Lib-Dem coalition policy that you're toeing the line on?
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You are laughable Sloper. Am I a grown up? :wall:
The point was made by Adam, regardless of how it was spelled, and it was understood in its intended context by just about everyone who reads this forum.
What is tedious is you guys clinging on to every spelling mistake just to poke fun at people who you don't agree with. Childish oneupsmanship Sloper?
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Fuck off.
mutatis mutandis.
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Personally I think that the suggestion that the credibility of the BBC was reduced because of the potential non appearance of a potential winner or two is utter shite, as has been pointed out already, ffs it's not as if I sneaked into third place behind Percy's dog and the park keeper is it?
Adam, You've been guilty of using 'your' instead of "you're" (etc) on so many occasions I really can't be bothered to find a few examples, so perhaps rather than being a twunt you should just admit that you were too lazy, drunk or what ever to pay attention to what you were typing. Far better that than carry on as you have.
I think an apology is in order, if you have any idea of the work and personal committments that go into an event like this you'd realise that a potential clash of a domestic comp with the first world cup bouldering event to be held in the UK (I could be wrong) with all that goes with it is a small price to pay.
Sloper, check the spelling on what you just posted first, before banging on at me. :wank:
As for an apology. Ha ha, you must be high! After the abuse i got. It was just 'my' opinion about the comp. I stated this opinion. This doesn't make it right or wrong. No one ever said Graeme wasn't doing a top job. In fact, i think i even said he WAS...
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Fuck off.
mutatis mutandis.
Flocci non facio
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From the perspective of a paying punter I thought that the comp was really very well organised and the event overall goes from strength to strength.
Whoa :o Hold the front page.
Where's the anti-comp invective??. I'm certain that you gave me both barrels for being mildly supportive about comps on UKC a few years ago. Is this some new Lib-Dem coalition policy that you're toeing the line on?
Personally I hate competitions particularly the twatfest that was the BMC leading ladder (god I hope it has died a death), and I would also like to see all climbing walls razed to the ground in a bonfire of t nuts and resin, before shortly moving on to the indiscriminate machine gunning of top ropers; sure a few wheel chair users will be collateral damage but it's a price worth paying. I can then stride the edges in pure ethical superiority safe in the knowledge that I'll never get caught chipping holds.
All that aside, the snide comments which reflect on both the winners of the BBC and the organisers of the competitions is rather unpleasant and uncalled for (not to mention irrational).
As for the Lib Dem / Tory Civil Partnership don't even get me started.
Adam, you know I'd call you a twat to your face, why not accept the fact that your comments were a mile off and that you rightly got pinged for it? As for puntering me, how very childish, I won't bother responding in kind.
Red, shall I go find a Pears or similar so we can pretend that we're all learned and that?
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Red, shall I go find a Pears or similar so we can pretend that we're all learned and that?
erm, you started it. who do you think you are, Jim Perrin?
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I don't need a Pears for my Latin (cue sound of former Latin master breaking through the lid of his coffin) I would have been a Judge you know.
No, I rather think of myself as the bastard hybrid of Johnny Dawes and Margret Thatcher, but with better taste in womens clothes than either.
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From the perspective of a paying punter I thought that the comp was really very well organised and the event overall goes from strength to strength.
Whoa :o Hold the front page.
Where's the anti-comp invective??. I'm certain that you gave me both barrels for being mildly supportive about comps on UKC a few years ago. Is this some new Lib-Dem coalition policy that you're toeing the line on?
Adam, you know I'd call you a twat to your face, why not accept the fact that your comments were a mile off and that you rightly got pinged for it?
A mile off? I guess all the others who shared my opinion are miles off too? The only difference was i didn't keep these opinions to myself.
Oh and next time i see you at the crag Sloper, i won't need to humour you like last time.
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Really, ahh and pray tell what that famous Lincoln sense of humour would entail? Maybe you'll provide Mick Ryan with some ground breaking news that I'm a fat middle aged punter?
Maybe you'll mention that I'm not that tall, have never climbed E8 and don't use fake tanning products?
Fantastic, I'm sure there's a whole comedy routine there, you really should be on stage.
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Really, ahh and pray tell what that famous Lincoln sense of humour would entail? Maybe you'll provide Mick Ryan with some ground breaking news that I'm a fat middle aged punter?
Maybe you'll mention that I'm not that tall, have never climbed E8 and don't use fake tanning products?
Fantastic, I'm sure there's a whole comedy routine there, you really should be on stage.
Read what i said. I said 'humour' you. So why did you go off on some tangent about sense of humour? Trying to be funny doesn't work when you don't understand what has been written. Oh, and as for the fake tanning products? It is called climbing outside in the sun. You should try it sometime.
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It's called taking the piss sunshine, or rather me humouring you.
Maybe you can humour me about first ascents in Glendalough, I rather think I've few more witnesses than you did :-[ :-\ :wank: oops forgot one :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
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It's called taking the piss sunshine, or rather me humouring you.
Yes, of course it is. Trying to be smart made you look stupid. Whatever...
Maybe you can humour me about first ascents in Glendalough, I rather think I've few more witnesses than you did :-[ :-\ :wank: oops forgot one :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
You probably did.
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Fuck me, what happened here? Surely the point that it seems to be a bit of scheduling cock up when the BBC clashes with a WC comp where the (in theory) best of British are away competing is reasonable?
I'm not saying Nige and Leah didn't win, that their wins are devalued, or anything like that just that common sense would suggest the two events weren't held on the same weekend.
(I realise there were far more reasons than common sense for the decisions made but it doesn't invalidate people opinions)
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Linky (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,3145.0.html)
Anything Else?
Don't resort to critcising people's grammar or spelling when arguing/debating - firstly it's rather scraping the insults barrel; secondly people often type to forums quickly whilst at work, etc; and lastly some people may be dyslexic.
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I have to say the event was great on the weekend and it was good to cheer on 7 Brits in the semi finals. Some of them looked a bit tired or nervous (understandably) and will no doubt do better next time round.
It was a pity that we didn't get a finalist but great to see Shauna finishing 14th in her first Boulder WC event, effort!
I don't think I've ever been so psyched watching someone as I was witnessing Ondra pulling down crimps as if they were jugs :bow:
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Wish I had been there to see Ondra crushing things but had to make do with the streamed version over the internet which was over all very good and featured some rather amusing comments including a few musings on why everything wasn't at least 45 degrees overhanging as if this is the sole requirement for a decent problem. One thing that I would suggest for future on line broadcasts like this though is to display the countdown clock somewhere on the screen so that you have an idea of how long each competitor has left on a specific problem.
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The WC at Cliffhanger was brilliant and a credit to all who put the effort in to organize and run it. It was indeed amazing watching Ondra dispatch, not putting the efforts of the lesser mortals to shame.
What was amazing (to me anyway) was that I'd dragged Ms Bubba down to watch - she was transformed from somebody who had a fair disdain for bouldering (it's pointless, boring, etc, etc) to an avid fan who was ooohing, aahing, cheering and screaming on competitors towards the end :)
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Mine actually looks forward to going each year after watching Nedward romp to victory two years ago.
I enjoyed sunday, mind you I always do.
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Thanks for the tip about putting the clock on the webcast - Horizon said that they were going to do this, maybe they forgot or it didn't work on the multiscreens.
They are improving things every comp they do, they did Vienna & Eindhoven, eg for Sheff they did a screen split 4 ways during the quals & semis which looked pretty good.
Any other (serious) suggestions for how to improve things for next year?
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Different commentator? There were quite a few times when Lu, Claire Dan, and I were pissing ourselves at what he (Ian?) was saying. It was good, and it was definitely informative for Joe Public, which was absolutely top. He was very good at explaining it all. Maybe it was just that it's a lot of talking for one person to do, so getting another one in would help. Didn't Percy do some on the Saturday? I suppose that Sat was about 3 hours longer, so it would be a bit much for one person to do.
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Banked seating / standing,
A bar,
Screens at the front edge of the tent left, centre and right rather than just centre above the wall.
A commentator who knows what they're talking about (as Drew says), I'd favour Johnny Dawes just for sheer comedy value.
Less of the utterly shit music, even people that liked that sort of thing thought that it was shit, but then again maybe the don't got no tayst?
As for the insults Adam, I was being rather kind, after all it's no fun picking on someone who's fundamentally unable to respond, no sport at all.
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Banked seating / standing,
:agree:
Probably the first time I've agreed with Sloper.
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The very thin edge of a very fat wedge.
Lube up.
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Banked seating - unlikely due to cost but already thought of
Bar - of course it's been looked at, what do you take me for :alky: But you need a licence and the licence applicatin was objected to by some locals
Screens - a cost issue and of course we would love to have screens everywhere. We did have 2 x 42" screens at either end of the stage and raised them higher during the final once the problems they then obscured were finished. The screen above the stage did not work due to it's positioning and the light levels - we will probably spend the money this cost on getting more/bigger plasma screens.
Commentator - Drew does not say that Ian did not know what he is talking about. Johnny as a commentator, get real, more than 10% of those listening need to comprehend more than 70% of what is being said. You really need 2 people to keep it going all day for 2 days but the second guy I had lined up had double booked and I could not find a replacement in the time I had. As for the style, well some people love the informative (everyone on here probably has an idea whats going on) and some people just love being entertained eg Percy talking about tanning salons going out of business but it is a difficult balance.
Music - well music is always a bone of contention but I have to admit I rarely notice it even to form a real opinion as I am too involved. I leave it to others to comment. Although I did like Frankie's Welcome to the Pleasuredome at the start of the semi
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Ps The IFSC Officials reckoned that Ian's commentary was very professional & informative
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I appreciate the need to keep costs down but the number of spectators with a poor view was significant, a bit of scaffolding and some 8x4 would sort it if it's not available commercially which it probably is.
As for JD commentating I must have been off on one.
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As for the insults Adam, I was being rather kind, after all it's no fun picking on someone who's fundamentally unable to respond, no sport at all.
Oh don't worry Sloper, i am bored with you anyway. I have better things to do.
Lets leave this thread for what it was intended for. Sounds like the event was a great success, and i enjoyed watching it on the webcast. Well done to Graeme and all involved.
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If it could have been made out of scaff and ply then Longy would have made it in a jiffy.
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Watched the final on't web also. Quality looking problems. After watching a few of these live-web rounds the only thing I would like to see improved upon for the armchair mug is the numbering of the problems. The last couple of rounds had the problem number at waist level so when the competitor started the problem it was easy to match up the "live" climber list with the problem, to identify who was doing what. Looks like at Sheff (certainly in the final) this signage was much too small to see on TV...Indeed in every WC round the signage could be improved by have the problem number ie A4 or B3 repeated every metre or so up the wall so you can still see which problem is which as the camera zoomed in. Fuck all, I know but hey, its pedant week.
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As for the insults Adam, I was being rather kind, after all it's no fun picking on someone who's fundamentally unable to respond, no sport at all.
Oh don't worry Sloper, i am bored with you anyway. I have better things to do.
Lets leave this thread for what it was intended for. Sounds like the event was a great success, and i enjoyed watching it on the webcast. Well done to Graeme and all involved.
You mewling, arrogant, fuckwitted, damp wankstain.
Who the fuck do you think you are?
Bored with me are you; is that it? A retreat that Custer would have considered infra dig.
Basically you've held out, once agian as a charlartan, as honest as Geoffrey Archer and with the credibility of Mick Ryan or Gordon Brown's economic policy and now you seek to brush it off because you're (note the use of the correct form) bored and have better things to do.
You really should be a bit more careful in future.
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As for the insults Adam, I was being rather kind, after all it's no fun picking on someone who's fundamentally unable to respond, no sport at all.
Oh don't worry Sloper, i am bored with you anyway. I have better things to do.
Lets leave this thread for what it was intended for. Sounds like the event was a great success, and i enjoyed watching it on the webcast. Well done to Graeme and all involved.
You mewling, arrogant, fuckwitted, damp wankstain.
Who the fuck do you think you are?
Bored with me are you; is that it? A retreat that Custer would have considered infra dig.
Basically you've held out, once agian as a charlartan, as honest as Geoffrey Archer and with the credibility of Mick Ryan or Gordon Brown's economic policy and now you seek to brush it off because you're (note the use of the correct form) bored and have better things to do.
You really should be a bit more careful in future.
Are you still here? :yawn:
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Any other (serious) suggestions for how to improve things for next year?
As already mentioned the clock thing was the main issue for me (and quite a few other people on the chat thingy) but I also liked the quite possibly random pairing of Ondra with Natalija Gros for the final. Ondra enters stage left - flashes problem and leaves us with circa 3.45 of DFBWGC on a screen all on her own - if your devious mind somehow planned it to happen that way Graeme I will award you a wad point. ;)
Hadn't really thought about the commentator thing but I agree with Drew that it would have been better with two - you have already explained that away though so carry on.
Stallioni - what are you on about? Admittedly I only watched the final so it might be a tad more complicated in the semis but even a country bumpkin like me could figure out what was going on and it was the first time I had watched a comp like this.
One last thing - I still have a valid account on UKC that you are more than welcome to if you wish to indulge in some low class trolling Sloper - just give it up on here as I have dropped into this thread after falling out of the Sheaf in what could be charitably described as a rather pissed state for the last two nights and I haven't raised a smile at any of your baiting comments.
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Please Sloper, Custer and the battle of little bighorn aside, can you not also draw a line under this sorry squabble? By all means carry on via PM if you so wish, but I was kind of hoping the nonesense had subsided and that we wouldn't have to resort to heavy moderating and locked topics etc.
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Any other (serious) suggestions for how to improve things for next year?
As already mentioned the clock thing was the main issue for me (and quite a few other people on the chat thingy) but I also liked the quite possibly random pairing of Ondra with Natalija Gros for the final. Ondra enters stage left - flashes problem and leaves us with circa 3.45 of DFBWGC on a screen all on her own - if your devious mind somehow planned it to happen that way Graeme I will award you a wad point. ;)
Of course it was all that we thought about during the planning ;) Next year we are going to make all of the blokes blocs completely piss so there won't be blokes on the mats for very long so you can have wall to wall DFBWGC without any distractions. We will even try and only get fit brush girls instead of the likes of Tom Newman and Gav Symmonds.
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Ps The IFSC Officials reckoned that Ian's commentary was very professional & informative
Graeme, i remember a few years back a certain chris cubitt doing some commentry at a bbc. He had the whole hall pissing themselves with laughter including the competitors. Get that man back as well i say.
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This thread is the biggest pile of manure i've ever seen.
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This thread is the biggest pile of manure i've ever seen.
(http://newsgrist.typepad.com/underbelly/images/2008/08/12/turd.jpg)
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We will even try and only get fit brush girls instead of the likes of Tom Newman and Gav Symmonds.
You do that and I will attend in person next year... ;D
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Udo's latest offering is now up and is as good as ever, if not better due to the fixed cameras on P4's in the finals
Boulder WC 2010 report #6 - Sheffield (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMCpRpht0T0#ws)