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Title: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: paulwelford on February 01, 2016, 04:15:35 pm
Hi all

I'm a physio/medic and, just for fun, I am running an online survey about a muscle found in 86% of people.

I'm interested to know whether it is more commonly found in top level climbers as I think it may confer benefit when climbing on slopers. I also wonder if it is linked with a condition called Dupuytren's Disease, which affects the palm of the hand and is around twice as common in climbers.

You don't have to be an elite climber to take part. Just watch this 3 min video, follow the advice and post a comment below. If you prefer to send me a private reply, simply DM me or email paulwelfordmedical@gmail.com:

You can watch the video here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHlm4UI30x4&feature=youtu.be

Feel free to share the video with anyone you think will find it interesting.

Happy Bouldering
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: webbo on February 01, 2016, 04:41:38 pm
I've got it in both arms more prominent in my left even though I'm right handed. I don't have Dupuytrens although I've got nodules in both hands and a very slight curving of my left little finger.
Grade wise E5,7c and ft7b also I've climbed on and off for 40 years plus.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: cheque on February 01, 2016, 05:05:08 pm
I have the tendon on both arms. No trace of Dupuytrens.

I've bouldered 7A max. Definitely stronger on slopers than crimps.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: SimonB on February 01, 2016, 05:37:04 pm
No Tendon in either arm, and no sign of Dupuytrens.
8a+ sport, 7C boulder, E6
Stronger on crimps, but primarily climb on limestone so to be expected.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: webbo on February 01, 2016, 06:00:54 pm
I've got it in both arms more prominent in my left even though I'm right handed. I don't have Dupuytrens although I've got nodules in both hands and a very slight curving of my left little finger.
Grade wise E5,7c and ft7b also I've climbed on and off for 40 years plus.
I forgot to put I'm reasonably ok on slopers
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: andyd on February 01, 2016, 06:02:36 pm
I've got it on both sides.
Roughly 7b/E5
No dupamejobs
OK on slopers. Better on crimps.

Might be worth finding out the type of rock? Not many slopers on Dartmoor.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: moose on February 01, 2016, 06:04:11 pm
I have the tendon in both arms, pronounced Dupuytrens in the left hand. 

8a/+ sport (best red-points), font7b+ bouldering (on a good day, used to be font7c).  Terrible on slopers but love a mingin' crimp - though I suspect that is more to do with being light and lanky and having no upper body strength than my hand anatomy.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: tomtom on February 01, 2016, 06:05:16 pm
Yes both sides.
F7B or more on a good day!
No Dupuytrens
Not especially good on slopers - not bad either...
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Fultonius on February 01, 2016, 06:13:37 pm
Yes on both sides. No sign of dupuytrens.

Font 7B & Fr 8a. At my peak (not just now  could hang for 25 seconds on the beastmaker 45s) But strangely terrible at font slopers - I can hang them, I just couldn't move off them!
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: fried on February 01, 2016, 07:26:41 pm
Both sides. Dupuytrens in both hands (undiagnosed),  no problems straightening fingers just nodules that don't affact me much.

Did a 6B once, much prefer crimpy stuff.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Pricey on February 01, 2016, 07:37:22 pm
Tendon in R only
8a+ route, 7B+ boulder
No Dupuytrens
Probably better on slopers/more open holds, no discernible difference between sides.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: cheque on February 01, 2016, 08:11:40 pm
My mate without a UKB or YouTube account has the tendon in both arms, has done 6b/ 6B and has bad Depuytrens in both hands.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Murph on February 01, 2016, 09:10:43 pm
Fascinating. You learn something every day.

Yes both arms.
Font 7B max.
No dupuytrens.
Not sure what I'm better on, maybe slopers, not sure.

Prediction: lots of noise in the date.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: a13c on February 01, 2016, 09:12:38 pm
I have the tendon in both arms, I've projected font 7c+ and have a decent sized dupuytrens lump in my left palm and the tiny beginnings of one in my right. I'm ok on slopers but most of my climbing is on crimps. I've been climbing for around 20 years.

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Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: paulwelford on February 01, 2016, 09:26:32 pm
Thanks for all the comments everyone. Please do keep them coming  :yes:
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: rich d on February 01, 2016, 09:59:20 pm
have it in both arms, no dups in either, once climbed a couple of font 7a's slightly less shit on slopers compared to crimps but mainly climbed on grit, been climbing 29 years.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: haydn jones on February 01, 2016, 10:18:45 pm
Tendon in both. climb 8c . Have dupuytrens in left hand. Terrible at sloppers
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: HaeMeS on February 01, 2016, 11:17:06 pm
Tendon in both arms.
8a route, 7B boulder.
No Dupuytrens.
Better on crimps, cause I know how to use skin, tendon and bone, not muscle. Weak as shit, cant hold pinches, but OK on Font-style slopers. Suck at open holds.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Teaboy on February 01, 2016, 11:29:24 pm
I have the tendon in both arms/hands.
I have Duyupetron's in both hands but only one is turning into trigger finger so far.
I Boulder around Fb7A and am awful on slopers although I am ok open handing stuff (I can hook my top joint over edges and hang quite merrily, I guess I struggle to apply pressure though which is what's required for slopers
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: ferret on February 02, 2016, 12:27:03 am
I have it in both arms
No Duyupetron's that I can see
Prior to injury (occasionally) bouldered 8a+, most of my harder stuff was slopey compression style but also managed some fingery stuff around the 8a-8a+ grade, there was always a heel hook involved so maybe that doesn't count ;)
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Duncan campbell on February 02, 2016, 07:43:17 am
Think I have it in both arms though more prominent on my right (The tendon isnt as central as yours in the video - both are more towards the thumb side of the hand). Also have a small lump in my right hand. Climb E5 o/s, 7c RP and 7A+ boulder. definitely better on crimps than slopers.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: rodma on February 02, 2016, 07:45:15 am
I have it in both arms
Bouldered 8a+
Better on crimps than slopers
No dumpytrumps
Have been training intensively for about 20 years.

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Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: duncan on February 02, 2016, 07:53:56 am
I see what you're getting at but I think it's unlikely there is any link. Given almost no-one will have trained their other forearm muscles to capacity I doubt if Palmaris Longus has anything to do with sloper strength for most people. It's likely to be far more influenced by technique and practice surely? The Dupuytrens link is an intriguing idea.

Bilateral PLs
Boulders 6C on a good day with a following wind.
Weak on slopers
Climbed for approaching 40 years.
No sign of Dupuytrens.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Duma on February 02, 2016, 08:07:06 am
Well just to be awkward (or idiotic) I'm not sure if I have it or not. There's a raised tendon when I do the test, but it's distinctly to the thumb side of central, and seems to connect to the base of the thumb. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: highrepute on February 02, 2016, 09:04:48 am
Same as Duma for me.

So I'm saying I don't have it.
Boulder 7C+
No Dappertrons
Too large an ego to admit I'm weak on slopers.

Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Nibile on February 02, 2016, 09:10:25 am
I think I have it in both arms.
I've bouldered 8a+ in the last year.
Extremely small sign of Dupuytren in left hand.
Don't know if stronger on slopers or crimps.
Have been training for my whole life, climbing specifically since 1993.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: SamT on February 02, 2016, 09:32:18 am

Present on both arms
ATM - Boulder 7A, Trad E4, Sport 7b+
in the past - B = 7b+, Trad E6/7, Sport 7c+
Fairly sure I've got a Dups starting on the left palm below middle finger, Tender lump. No noticeable curling, but cant extend back as far as I used to be able. has appeared in the last 6 months (I presumed following a nasty pulley snap on on that finger about 1 year prior)
Fairly average on slopers and crimps TBH. I don't think I excel on one over the other.
Age 43, been climbing on and off for 26 years
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 02, 2016, 09:54:53 am
Pretty sure I have the tendon in both arms. Mild Dups in both hands, just nodules. Have bouldered 8A, prefer slopers.

Age might be useful for Dups onset? I'm 38.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: sidewinder on February 02, 2016, 10:32:41 am
Believe I have it in both.
30 now, climbed for ~10 years
Font 7b, prefer crimps
Nodules in both hand, not sure if Dupuytrens (though my grandfather had it) as don't seem to be on the line of the tendon and the LH one has 'disappeared' following skewering my hand on a rain worn limestone fin and a couple of days of it weeping profusely (new cure?).
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: T_B on February 02, 2016, 10:46:09 am
Left arm only.
No doopytrons.
8A/8b.
Average to weak on slopers.
Marginally stronger on right side.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Ally Smith on February 02, 2016, 11:09:21 am
Palermis Longus tendon present in both arms.
No Dupuytrens.
French 8b, Font 7C
Average to crap on slopers - prefer tufa!
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: 36chambers on February 02, 2016, 12:34:58 pm
Palermis Longus tendon present in both arms.
As far as I can tell no Dupuytrens
Font 7C on a good day. Projected up to 8A.
Love the sloper. Considerably stronger on a sloper or pinch compared to a crimp.
26, climbing sincerely for ~5 years.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: filz on February 02, 2016, 01:03:11 pm
Present in both arms.
Boulder 7b.
I'm better at crimping I think.
I've been climbing on and off for almost 20 years.
No Dupuytrens yet
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: danm on February 02, 2016, 04:39:42 pm
Have the tendon in both arms.
Boulder 7a on a very good day.
No dupytrens.
Average on slopers.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: benno on February 02, 2016, 04:57:36 pm
Tendon present in both arms.
Boulder 7b.
No Dupuytrens.
Stronger on slopers than crimps.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: mark20 on February 02, 2016, 05:02:13 pm
Well just to be awkward (or idiotic) I'm not sure if I have it or not. There's a raised tendon when I do the test, but it's distinctly to the thumb side of central, and seems to connect to the base of the thumb. Any thoughts?
Same for me. Judging by this
(https://o.quizlet.com/k-3RnCvbANBXc3OuhlLEqA.jpg)
you should see 2 close together if you have the Palermis Longus tendon, like the guy in the youtube vid.

I don't have it
No sign of duyptrens
Sport 8a, font 7C if I'm going well
OK on slopers
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: iain on February 02, 2016, 05:49:07 pm
better than OK on slopers
Fixed that for you  ;)

I've got ithe tendon in both arms.
Dupuytrens like nodule present on right.
Poor on slopers, much prefer crimps (with a background of crimping practice)
Font 7b+ 7a+ in the last year
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: bigironhorse on February 02, 2016, 05:57:04 pm
I have it on both left and right, no dupuytrens, boulder 7b+, route f7c+, trad E5. Climbing for 7 years.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: nic mullin on February 02, 2016, 06:26:09 pm
Have it in both arms, no dupuytrens, career bests: boulder Fb7c, route F7c, trad E6. Prefer slopers, but probably no better on them than crimps. Been climbing regularly 19 years, current age 33.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: blamo on February 02, 2016, 07:52:06 pm
Have the tendon on both arms.
No Dupuytrens
Boulder 7C
Not great on slopers
Climbing 6 years
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: jwi on February 02, 2016, 08:33:42 pm
Have the tendon on both arms. No sign of Dupuytren's. I am also firmly in the non-elite cohort (8b rp/7c+ os atm).
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Stu Littlefair on February 02, 2016, 09:12:35 pm
I have it on my left arm. No dupuytrens.

I tend to be better on slopers. Climb 8A+


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Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: andy popp on February 02, 2016, 10:20:49 pm
I have the tendon in both arms (though more prominent in the right). No sign at all of Dupuytrens - I'm 52 and have been climbing nearly 40 years. Have climbed 8a/E8/7C+. If I have a strength its probably crimps.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: paulwelford on February 02, 2016, 10:58:40 pm
Duma - it sounds like you might be seeing your flexor carpi radialis, but difficult to say without seeing it. Thanks for all the replies :)
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Duncan campbell on February 03, 2016, 07:24:50 am
Having just seen Mark20's pic I dont have it so you may want to adjust my answer further up... may explain why I'm so bad on slopers...
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Duma on February 03, 2016, 09:22:09 am
I have it on my left arm. No dupuytrens.

I tend to be better on slopers. Climb 8A+


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Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Duma on February 03, 2016, 09:26:56 am
Thanks Mark, in that case:

No PL in either arm
One dp nodule in left palm
Climbing 20 yrs
38 yrs old
7C+ bloc, 8a sport
Worse on slopers than crimps, but I have a dodgy left wrist that limits me on slopers so may be unrelated to PL presence/absence
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: dave on February 03, 2016, 06:51:49 pm
I seem to have it on the right hand and not the left.

Bouldering up to 7c+/8a

Don't I have DC but looking at my left hand the tendon going to the little finger is a bit more pronounced and you can feel it under the skin a lot more prominently than with the other hand.

Traditionally better on crimps, but then I did start bouldering seriously at the Eldon Square bendcrete wall. Deffo stronger crimped on left hand and have been for about 10 years.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Lopez on February 04, 2016, 12:48:49 pm
I seem to have it on the right hand and not the left.

Don't I have DC but looking at my left hand the tendon going to the little finger is a bit more pronounced and you can feel it under the skin a lot more prominently than with the other hand.

 Deffo stronger crimped on left hand and have been for about 10 years.

That's interesting. when the survey popped in the other channel i wrote

Quote
I have it in the right arm only. (...) The interesting thing which i'm wondering now if it could possibly be related and i could never figure out why, is that i'm way stronger with my left hand on crimps/half crimps

My little finger tendon on the left is also more prominent (and i seem to carrying a long running injury in that vicinity which flared up badly 2 days ago  :furious: )

Not that many asymetrical weirdos answering the survey to see if there's a pattern there though.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: petejh on February 04, 2016, 01:24:35 pm
Tendon present in both arms.
Consider myself decent on slopers, quite like them. Strong on crimps.
Significant Dupuytrens on right hand ring and pinky tendon (2 large lumps on pinky, 1 on ring)
Minor Dupuytrens on left hand pinky tendon.
F8b, E7 (headpoint Fiend, I can sense your bristling from here :) ), don't boulder but Font7C in past.
Climbing 15-20ish years
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Muesli on February 04, 2016, 01:47:23 pm
Not present on either side
No Dupuytrens
font 7b
More or less equally rubbish on slopers and crimps

Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: JamieG on February 04, 2016, 02:07:47 pm
Seems to be present on both sides. Much more on obvious on right (am right handed).
No Dupuytrens as far as I can tell.
Much better on crimps than slopers.
Climbing 10 years.
7A
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: paulwelford on February 07, 2016, 08:59:18 pm
Thanks very much to everyone for their helpful responses.
I now have 120 responses which is pretty good!
Thanks again and hope you all had a great weekend  :)
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: tomtom on February 17, 2016, 08:36:26 am
Paul (and general interest) not sure if this is relevant to your study - but I get into work early - and the cleaners for the building all colonise our tea room before the rest of the building starts. Anyway, I was chatting to them this morning - and 2 out of the 6 there had undergone carpal tunnel procedures (one on both hands) in the last few years. All that mop gripping and squeezing apparently... Got me wondering if this might be another grouping of people with Dups etc.....
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 17, 2016, 11:43:09 am
There were some miners on a programme about the River Taff last week with bad Dupuytrens, I missed the start but it sounded like it was common amongst older miners.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: andy_e on February 17, 2016, 11:45:49 am
That's a friend's brother presenting that programme, I thought you couldn't get it outside of Wales? Was it good?

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Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Johnny Brown on February 17, 2016, 12:25:48 pm
It was better than I expected. Your mates bro came across well, although the accent didn't fit. Thinking back I was in Wales at the time, but it is on iplayer:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06zyl2v/the-river-taff-with-will-millard-episode-2

edit: it was episode 2. Cod hands at 8:30, he blames vibrating tools.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: andy_e on February 17, 2016, 12:27:45 pm
Yeah, Wisbech and South Wales aren't the most similar accents. Did you see his Hunters of the South Seas programme too? Fascinating.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Potash on February 17, 2016, 01:38:44 pm
Yes. Both arms.
7c+, font 7b, E7.

I was historically poor openhanded due to spending the initial years of my climbing on crimpy rock but developed stronger open handed technique ok after injuring tendons and moving nearer to gritstone.

No evidence of Dupuytrens.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: paulwelford on February 21, 2016, 07:21:09 pm
Thank for your comments TomTom.
Yes, the condition is more common among those doing heavy physical work, such as miners.
They also tend to have poorer access to healthcare, so often do receive treatment until the contractures are advanced. I used to work in the Valleys in South Wales. Interesting place!
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Ru on February 21, 2016, 08:59:43 pm
I have it on my left, but not right. Boulder 8B max. Stronger on crimps. Slight sign of dupuytrens on my right (at least I used to, it seems to have spontaneously cleared up over that past few years).
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Dexter on February 25, 2016, 03:30:51 pm
Got it in my right but not sure in my left as I have a fair amount of scar tissue from a wrist tendon snap (may have snapped this tendon too). Boulder 8A and fairly good on slopers but I have weird wrist popping on some slopers (with my left)
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: slackline on March 21, 2016, 01:39:46 pm
From an old thread the absence of the palmaris longus does not appear to affect grip or pinch strengths...

Abstract

The palmaris longus tendon is the most frequently harvested tendon for reconstructive plastic and hand surgical procedures. A question patients often ask is whether loss of the palmaris longus will result in any functional deficit. In order to answer this question, the presence or absence of the palmaris longus muscle was clinically determined in 418 normal Asian subjects. All subjects also had their grip and pinch strengths measured. No statistically significant difference was seen in the grip or pinch strength measurements between subjects who had a palmaris longus tendon and those who did not. This study demonstrates that absence of the palmaris longus is not associated with a decrease of grip or pinch strength.

Feel any better?  :)

The absence of a "statistically significant difference" (which in this context means a p-value less than the completely arbitrary threshold of 0.05) does not mean that there is no difference and the authors conveniently omit the quantification from their abstract.

The numbers are...

AbsentPresent
Right Hand Grip strength (kg)n = 12n = 406
Mean (SD)35 (12)30 (12)
Median3128
Range*21-536-63

Right Hand Pinch strength (kg)n = 12n = 406
Mean (SD)8 (3)7 (2)
Median77
Range*4-122-14
Right Hand Grip strength (kg)n = 19n = 399
Mean (SD)26 (11)18 (10)
Median2526
Range*9-495-64

Right Hand Pinch strength (kg)n = 19n = 399
Mean (SD)7 (2)7 (2)
Median67
Range*4-102-14

* This may be a mis-labelling in the article as its more common to report the Inter-Quartile Range (IQR) than the absolute range


Another study from 2013 looking at differences in grip strength in Turkish kids aged 6-11 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3652998/) didn't find any difference between presence/absence of the muscle on grip strength either (table 2 they have performed a large number of tests, but made no attempt to adjust for the consequences of multiple testing).

Aside from the absence of evidence I'm curious as to what motivated the hypothesis...

I'm interested to know whether it is more commonly found in top level climbers as I think it may confer benefit when climbing on slopers.

...and how the requested responses will help answer the question as overall performance in terms of climbing grades is not necessarily a reliable proxy for being good on slopers (e.g. a given individual might prefer the crimp and climb boulders/routes without slopers and if they have the muscle/tendon their grade will not reflect any benefit).

Perhaps looking at the results of the survey might be interesting, have you collated the results from UKB and UKC (http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=633754) responses and made any summarisation of them yet paulwelford?
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Andy B on March 22, 2016, 11:04:45 am
I can't find the tendon in either arm.
No dupuytrens in either hand (touch wood).
Better on crimps than slopers.
Font 8b.
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 22, 2016, 01:56:12 pm
I have the tendon in both arms and nascent Duptrens in both, more pronounced in the left.
I'm right handed.
I hardly climb anymore, but up to 2011 was reliably achieving 7C, though I'd describe myself (at that time) as a 7A climber (that which I could usually put away in a single session at first sight, there were exceptions).


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Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Coops_13 on March 22, 2016, 02:53:56 pm
No tendon in either arm
No Dupuytrens
Better on slopers (I am heavy with weak fingers)
Sport: 7b/+ Boulder 7B/+
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: slackline on April 27, 2016, 07:38:00 am
What do the results look like?  :-\
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: 36chambers on May 26, 2016, 01:03:53 pm
Since originally checking for Dupuytren's contracture in February this year, and confirming that nothing was present, I noticed a month ago that I now actually have an obvious nodule in my left hand. Furthermore it hurts about 2/10 if I apply pressure on it.

Following a very brief google of Dupuytren's contracture, I am now somewhat grossed out by the pictures and the concept of it  :'( and was wondering if I'll ever realise my dream of climbing 8C :boohoo:

Considering a number of people on here seem to have said nodules, can someone please tell me whether I'm being theatrical, and that 8C is just a number anyway :jab:
Title: Re: Anatomy survey - are you missing a muscle?
Post by: Footwork on May 26, 2016, 01:19:08 pm
Since originally checking for Dupuytren's contracture in February this year, and confirming that nothing was present, I noticed a month ago that I now actually have an obvious nodule in my left hand. Furthermore it hurts about 2/10 if I apply pressure on it.

Following a very brief google of Dupuytren's contracture, I am now somewhat grossed out by the pictures and the concept of it  :'( and was wondering if I'll ever realise my dream of climbing 8C :boohoo:

Considering a number of people on here seem to have said nodules, can someone please tell me whether I'm being theatrical, and that 8C is just a number (and letter) anyway :jab:

Rule one. Don't use google. Go and see a GP if you're worried.

Yours,
A hypochondriac

Edit: sounds like a lot of people climb hard with it though. and yes 8C is just a number  :P
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