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places to visit => conditions reports (isitgreasy on twitter) => Topic started by: gruff on May 03, 2006, 11:46:36 am
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It's about time this place had a cave of justice conditions report!
Over to you Dave:
When you've been to this crag, just post saying when you were there and what condition it is in, i.e. whats wet, whats dry etc.
It really is as simple as that. lets keep it on topic, just notes about nick, chit-chat in other threads, cheers.
Word.
Cheers Bubbs!
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Excellent stuff. Am planning to visit on the weekend, will post something when have been
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Is it still dry after recent deluge?
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Surprisingly dry as of this sunday, most problems unaffected by damp conditions. :)
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will it be worth a trip on sunday??? :-\
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Anybody been recently? :)
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goin today, will report back
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Twas in reasonable nick.
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Cave was in good nick late this afternoon. One or two damp holds (e.g. side pull on LF), but generally very dry.
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in your experienced opinion, do you think it will remain dry through to sat given rain is forecast tomorrow?
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NO
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I'm surprised the ground above Parisella's hasn't been covered with polythene sheeting by now :)
Ok, not sheeting, but something more discreet. Just think, no more seepage...
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Rest assured, Parisella's is covered in sheep sheeting 24/7, scat fiends!
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Uncle, I reckon it will be okay on Saturday. The cave can take a lot of rain before it craps out, as long as it remains breezey. When you see a still wind forecast, that's when you've got problems with dampness, and not just seepage lines.
Sometimes though the elusive sticky-damp conditions can occur when it gets like this, and suddenly everything feels a grade easier!
Houdini - your assessment of the cave is outdated and incorrect. Once upon a time it had a problem with goat shit (not sheep), but since the guide came out and the cave's popularity has rocketed the goats have tended to stay away (maybe they don't like our smell as much as we don't like theirs?).
Over the coming winter, the choice is yours: hang out in dusty smelly climbing walls or become an acolyte of the cave and start working through the big list:
http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=170
So what's it going to be, the Cave of Justice or the wall of dust and misery?
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Sometimes though the elusive sticky-damp conditions can occur when it gets like this, and suddenly everything feels a grade easier!
Houdini - your assessment of the cave is outdated and incorrect. Once upon a time it had a problem with goat shit (not sheep), but since the guide came out and the cave's popularity has rocketed the goats have tended to stay away (maybe they don't like our smell as much as we don't like theirs?).
Over the coming winter, the choice is yours: hang out in dusty smelly climbing walls or become an acolyte of the cave and start working through the big list:
http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=170
So what's it going to be, the Cave of Justice or the wall of dust and misery?
It'll take more than a bit of sticky damp to make trigger cut feel a grade easier to me. A miracle might do the job.
Embrace the cave Houdini, she will be guide you to a state of climbing excellence if you let her.
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thanks simon. I'll be there tomorrow then, trying to redpoint left wall. Hopefully tonight's den session won't kill me.
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Hopefully tonight's den session won't kill me.
the den won't kill you but Sydney might if he's hungry, he took a chunk out of James the other day, wicked beast
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Hopefully tonight's den session won't kill me.
the den won't kill you but Sydney might if he's hungry, he took a chunk out of James the other day, wicked beast
:o he's a hound from hell, but we have bonded so I have no fear. He did start on me a couple of weeks ago though...
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His jizz stinks!
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I need to spend some time here as my cave ticks are few and far between. What's the difference between In Hell/Pit of Hell?
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In Hell starts on a jug on the back wall whereas Pit of Hell starts a couple of moves in (bit contrived). Big difference in grade for the starts though. Pit of Hell to the Rockatrocity jug is about 7b+ whereas from In Hell start is prob 8a. TXT me when your coming over Ru and i'll give you the guided tour.
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Cool! Do you have anything as ungentlemanly as a job at the moment or can you get out midweek?
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No job really so i'm always keen for the cave (if its dry). Keep your eye on this thread then come over when its looking good.
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Ru, if you're still living in Manchester then the cave is 'local' - can't be much more than an hour drive away. What are you waiting for?!
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trying to redpoint left wall.
Are you trying it footless or something? you are far too strong to fail on this ;)
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So what's it going to be, the Cave of Justice or the wall of dust and misery?
Font and Grit youth, Font & Grit!
As you know Pantontino from the innumerable rants you have been subjected to. My objections to the Cave are primarily aesthetic, but also the inability of the climber to top-out (which for me is very important). Though I readily admit to being utterly shit in the Cave it is only part of the reason for my disliking it with a passion... Bouldering and romance are not mutually exclusive...
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trying to redpoint left wall.
Are you trying it footless or something? you are far too strong to fail on this ;)
i was only joking actually. but now you mention it... perhaps a footless variation would be possible!
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:off: But a friend of mine, Simon Cash, took 4 and 3/4 hours to complete Left Wall. Never weighted the rope once.
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I've just got here and the place is a write off. There isn't a dry hold in sight!!! Must have been some early morning mist or something... But anyway, if you were thinking of coming today, don't. Waiting for the arrival of doyle who will hopefully be able to provide an alternative.
Doylo arrives, exits his car, shouting "don't tell me about the cave panton! I know about the cave, I knew it was going to be wet... for fucks sake"
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When you see a still wind forecast, that's when you've got problems with dampness, and not just seepage lines.
I take it you checked the wind forecast? Schoolboy error if you didn't. ;)
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Your right Si a wind might have sorted it as it was condensation more than seapage. Mind you it was windy on pil box and that was saturated too. Just a bad day on the orme i reckon! Went to Pantmwyn after and that was pretty wet too.
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Before I leave Britain permanently, I'm gonna blow up that fuckin' shithole! :furious:
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What's it like at the moment - thinking about tomorrow?
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hey ru it was pretty good today, i'll be going again to climb on wed but will come along tomorrow if you come over, got nought else to do.
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I'm so honoured that my 1000th post on these forums is about the ormes.
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Just to add that this saturday the 4th of November there is a rally on the orme so the road will be closed to the public. You will be able to walk to the cave but no further. This means parking before the toll and walking up and over (not along the road). If you are interested in watching the rally action is starts at 8am. I know no more.
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Ode to The Cave
I never liked you: minging hole,
Stealer of friends to your toilet bowl,
Scummy rock with the crust of ages,
A plague upon you: Pit of Hades!
Rest-room for pervert, weirdo and freak,
You pull them in from as far as the Peak,
Yet why they climb here I've no idea,
Suspect it's because they must be queer...
(That's queer in the sense of odd/unusual. Not homosexual!)
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:bow:Consistantly excellent as usual Houds. Consider yourself wadded.
Tides are spot on for Angel Bay tomorrow...
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Even if you really did mean 'queer' as in 'homosexual', putting 'queer' was still better, as 'homosexual' doesn't rhyme with 'idea'. Very good.
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Would be well up for a chunk of the Bay, but sadly working til 4. You off to it Fatneck?
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Feeling rough as fuck and left work early today but I reckon a good nights kip and a liberal dosing of some proprietry brands of cold 'n' flu shit in the morning should sort me enough for a bit of Bay action. You got a job?
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Houdini you'll be telling me Pil Box Wall is shit next ::)
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Well, since neither you or I have climbed it, we're both in the dark. But it is slimestone, so there's a good chance that you are correct :whistle:
Sorry sorry Horses for Courses... Viva la difference... You say Tomayto... Yadda yadda yadda...
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Houdini, I despair, it must be all that chalk-dust and sweaty-rock-shoe-smell from the climbing wall sticking in your throat and making you grumpy.
(http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/upload/gallery/Houdini%20at%20Burbage.jpg)
You need some fresh seaside air...and some steep, hardcore limestone cranking. Don't you see Houdini, the cave is calling you, it is calling out your name. If you listen in quiet moments (might be a good idea to go outside into the car park if you're up at the climbing wall, it'll probably be too noisy inside) you will hear the faint echo of your name: H - o - u - d - i - n - i. You can fuss and cuss and protest all you like, but you know in your heart of hearts where your ineluctable destiny lies.
In the same way that one day you will realise how awesome Pavement were (CJD knew a good band when he heard it: Trigger Cut), one day you too will become a dedicated follower of the one true Cave of Justice, and that my friend is the truth (ruth).
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Quality summons to the cave of justice if ever I heard it Pantontino!
Yeah got a job in Music Zone selling Bonkers 5 to scallies. Although there was light at the end of the tunnel when some friendly bastard came in and asked 'Alright mate, you got any Aphex'.
Give him "some of that Aphex acid you cunt"! So I did.
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That is a grotesque advert for the manufacturer of a certain maker of stuff and you should black the logo out immediately. Never stop exploiting! :furious:
At least it's I'm in front of some real rock. Not like that fossilised crud you lunatics climb in Llandudno. It's a fucking retirement village! You're doomed! You've forfeited form for difficulty. The lines are wank and artificial. It doesn't have one tenth of the grace of other artificial types such as slate or quarried grit. You know: rock made out of rock - not fish.
Where will it end?
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Its good fun though Houdini, alright the rock isn't the best but the moves and the climbing is ace. Go and try Lou Ferrino and then come back and tell me its not good climbing.
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Is that better:
(http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/upload/gallery/Houdini(1).jpg)
Where will it end? Perhaps when somebody links In Hell into one of the two unclimbed extensions to Lou Ferrino, or maybe into Trigger Cut with the Upper Cut finish (do the maths, we are talking big numbers!). Unless some globe trotting superstar pops by for a look, we are still a long way from that, and even if someone does clean up, by then the floor will have dropped to a lower level and even sicker links will be possible.
So in answer to your question: It never ends.
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(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RAAAAwMVz!HqGSjhkDdq1wUiBd5QoV564xv3JzlG5t5NRCRVYYK84u*qje933OOBdaPqkxjjQmlCKaSybbw1uQtysF2G97ZjKa2YejZNMYs/Houdinianim.gif)
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Well, what can I say? Bonjoy really should quit access and start working for Dreamworks.
For the record, those nostrils are 22mm across and will accept a clipper lighter in each. But really, those are the kind of pictures that should only see the light of day after I die... It's the chin-thing at the end which makes it for me.
You wait till I get a new digicam Herr Pantontino! (The fucker will rue the day!)
And for the record I'd rather date Stephem Malkmus than get in that cave!
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;D excellent work Bonjoy, excellent work! ;D
Back on the original subject matter: the cave was in pristine condition today (eg. LF was completely dry). I was going to give you a call Houdini, but I was running late. Next time I'll come and collect you from Cwm (of course I'll pretend that we're going somewhere else.)
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OK OK. But only if it stops you posting ghastly pictures of me for Lovejoy to bastardize...
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Sounds like a reasonable deal to me, and to sweeten it even further I'll promise to bring a flask of tea (and I won't play any Pavement cds in the car on the way :whistle:).
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That's fine by me. You bring the tea, I'll bring some absinthe so I can get
twatted while you lot grunt and sweat up some of these manly macho willy waves fine lines...
And my blinkers. Can't forget my blinkers in the Cave. Oh, I've been in touch with Malkmus, he's keen...
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No blinkers necessary Houdini, this isn't pinches wall you know.
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Doylo's right, ain't no eliminates in the cave, just pure, pure lines, blah, blah blah... sorry getting carried away again, I guess I don't need to sell it any further now that you've agreed to cross the line.
Not surprised Malkmus was up for it, he's a renowned Anglophile, some might say he's even built a career out of impersonating one of our finest misanthropic Manc bastards (that'll be Mark E Smith, not Dense).
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even i'm fed up of impersonating me
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I suppose it's a bit late to be posting this, but the cave was dry with the odd bit of seepage coming through on Saturday afternoon. Side pull on LF was damp (but still useable after a bit of chalking), CB finish was wet and there was one wet hold on LW high. Bellpig was dry though.
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Might go there this weekend if weather is looking bad for yorkshire. can anyone give me an idea of what the conditions might be like?
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I was there on Sunday and the left side of the cave was bone dry, but there were some annoying drainage streaks affecting most of the problems on the right side: Trigger Cut and Clever Beaver were dry, but not much else.
Pill Box Wall was all dry save for one intermediate sidepull on Chocolate Wall. Manor crag is always worth a look if conditions are bad, not the best crag on the Ormes (actually there are some cool problems) but I've seen it dry when everywhere else is dripping.
If I go before the weekend I'll post a report.
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Simon your getting your beavers mixed up, clever beaver was wet, beaver cleaver was dry. I was there yesterday and its getting quite wet now, all depends what you want to try. Pil Box is always a good bet on a dry day but i wouldn't drive from yorkshire just for that (well thinking about it i probably would but i'm sad).
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You know what, you're right about the Beavers. :oops:
I must be going senile; wait til you get to my age. It's hard enough remembering where I live and how many kids I've got, never mind the names of all these boulder problems.
Anyway, the good news is that it has been very windy over here and the cave has dried out again. Pillbox was also in perfect nick - see NWB site for news of Doylo's new problems.
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anyone know if it`s worth a visit this weekend? :)
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this weekend? :please:
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the caves a bit wet but pil box shall be mint this weekend, it better be anyway!
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Pill box was the only dry place today much to the relief of a certain filthy individual.The cave has seeped a bit after friday's rain. Sunday could be better if it doesn't rain tonight!
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Is the cave worth a visit or is it totally out of condition plus is there anywhere else in wales in condition at the min
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its worth a visit for sure, is quite dry actually, spoke to Pantontino today and he said the mountains were a bit mank yesterday but today was a better day so tomorrow might be good. Hope this helps
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There was plenty to go at in the cave yesterday - not completely dry but plenty. Pill Box Wall was completely dry. Today in Llanberis it was gloriously sunny; I'd say you won't struggle to find dry rock over here in the next week (the forecast is mint).
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Wicked cheers guys thats loads of help
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Lots of rain yesterday and absolutely still calm today, so the cave was sopping wet, same next door and even Pill Box Wall was minging. Went to Manor Crag and, save for the odd bit of seepage, it was bone dry. Had a good session.
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Despite masses of rain and widespread flooding in N Wales, there was still plenty of dry rock to be found on the Ormes today. The cave was half wet, same at split Infinity (The eliminate pillar and Slim were dry), but Pill Box Wall was mint, apart from 2 damp holds on the Original problem and a drainage streak through Chocolate Wall.
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cheers Pantontino, may head out there tomorrow.
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Any word for a trip tomorrow? Anybody hit Pill Box also today?
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I was there today, and so were lots of other folk. Pretty good conditions, considering the stillness of the day. Some random wet holds in the cave, but plenty to go at. I didn't look at Pill Box Wall. Tomorrow looks a little windier so it might be alright, depending on wind direction and various other bits of witchcraft.
I might go again tomorrow, depending on how I feel in the morning. Right now I've got that distinctive post-Ormes 'I've been trampled on by a large shire horse' feeling.
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I'm totally psyched to get spanked all day now down in the cave! Maybe we can find some V3's to project Tom ;)
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I hope to be ticking V2 Richard. :'(
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Rich and Mono, what have I told you boys? Get back to work.
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Aye, it's been such an unproductive weekend so far. Was willing to spend 48 hours hard at work but alas could not get hold of the gatekeeper for loving nor money. No cave action either today unfortunately.
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Also forget to mention - thanks for the report Simon at such short notice. Was texted this morning to say trip was off as Dave (also driver) had an unforeseen family matter to attend to. Hope all's OK Dave if you happen to read this.
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I spent my 3rd day on the trot pulling on plastic & wood and am about ready to have a breakdown :'(
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But Rich, at least you will have some skin on your fingers. If you'd tried maybe half a dozen problems outside, your hands would have done their usual trick of flaying themselves. ;)
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Cave was mostly dry on tuesday. can't wait to go back! did the last two thirds of the left wall traverse in one push.
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anyone know what conditions are like today in the cave?
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I heard it was dry yesterday, but it is quite still and muggy, so could go either way. I'll be over on the Ormes this evening, meeting up with Doylo - probably end up in the cave if it is too wet for routes.
http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/7days.asp (http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/7days.asp)
Heavy rain is due, but so is a slight increase in wind, so probably best later on.
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it was smeggy as fcuk on sat/sun! Extremely humid with very little wind, but if you get a sea breeze im sure it will get better.
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what time you heading down Si?
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I'll probably be there around 5.30-6.00, same for Doylo too.
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Prob see you down there.
Spare lift from the Mcr going in the next half hour or so if anyone wants to come for some cave action
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Would love to jump onboard Jim but not out Mancs way. Enjoy.
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Cave was bone dry... if a little too warm for my liking (Like, where's the icicles man!). Jim and Dense seemed to enjoy themselves, Doylo just wandered around looking confused, unable to compute this 'bouldering lark' now that he has switched into route mode.
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Cave was bone dry... if a little too warm for my liking (Like, where's the icicles man!). Jim and Dense seemed to enjoy themselves, Doylo just wandered around looking confused, unable to compute this 'bouldering lark' now that he has switched into route mode.
Perhaps this should be moved to the news section. Moderators?
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good point well made that man. i did not enjoy myself i merely gave the illusion of enjoyment so jim wouldn't get disheartened ;D
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Congrats to Dense who did a problem in the cave, they should all fall now ;)
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yer not wrong
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Does anyone know the condition of the cave recently? Is it dry enough for a climb tomorrow?
Rich x
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The top photo was taken last night - bone dry, with the odd seep.
http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=270 (http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=270)
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was dry yesterday but the rain keeps on comin. I'd of thought tomorrow would be ok though.
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Cheers mate,
I will try and get along, if I get work out of the way.
Rich x
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The cave was wet today affecting the first half of left wall most of RA and Lou Ferrino and the beavers :(, split infinity was ok though.
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will be down next week.. Half term... yay
was wondering if the place has dried out (and whether it will remain dried out)
also is there a photo topo anywhere, kinda worried that I won't be able to figure out where anything is from the guide
been screwed before when I think I've got a line but have the wrong specific start or finish holds etc.... :'(
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Was in perfect nick yesterday monday :)
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Anybody been since the monsoon started? :please:
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It was dry and cool in there last night.
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drying out nicely :)
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anyone been recently :please:
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Wet in a fair few places today
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See the metcheck site predicts upto 15mph wind and a lack of rain throughout the day. Ideally would like to get into the Pass. Any word on anywhere that may be fair game there?
There's always Pill Box of course or a potentially damp cave presuming there's much nick? Sorry this request is twofold ::)
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Lou Ferino was unclimbable yesterday as was the final drilled pocket on Rock attrocity.
Pass was fairly wet Sunday afternoon but nothing a bit of wind wouldn't dry out.
BTW, got your message tom, cheers for offer!
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Nice one lad cheers - no worries on the offer hombre.
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this weather is whack
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Twas not bad at all, Pill Box was dry also.
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Nice and dry on the Ormes today - mind you, that was before the monsoon arrived. It'll probably still be okay though tomorrow.
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Whats the weather like over there at the moment? any up to date reports from today?
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Dry with the odd minor seepage issue in the cave today - a bit still and warm though. Pill Box Wall was mint - nice breeze.
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Cave pretty dry today, apart from jug on lou ferrino.....
Pill Box dry also.
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Any point coming up this weekend?
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It was in good nick today :)
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What have the conditions been like generally around north wales?? looking at coming up for the day and dont want to waste my time.
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Excellent conditions on the Ormes today - plenty of folk climbing and bouldering. A squally shower did blast through at one point, but half an hour later all the routes were dry again. Obviously the bouldering was completely unaffected.
There has been a bit of rain in the mountains, but the forecast looks pretty good. I'd pack your gear and get on the road if I was you.
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Sorry I keep asking about Pass conditions in this thread - seems the most logical place for it though. Any word for a trip tomorrow. Initially thought weather was ok for tomorrow but if there's been a deluge I presume Milestone will act as a swamp?
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Pretty wet in Llanberis today. I think the forecast is good for the weekend though. I would have thought that the Harvey Oswald landing would not get waterlogged - surely it would just drain away? The base of Caseg Fraith will probably be a pool though.
A bit damp when I first got to the Ormes last night, but later on it dried out a lot as the wind picked up.
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Got to run a seconding/abseiling/bouldering course in N Wales this weekend! Really hoping it dries up tomorrow in the pass or over in Ogwen :(
Would I be best off just going to Hollyhead or Tremadog :shrug: Would love to take them to a day at the Cave and Split as a spotting team, but sadly I would get sacked :boohoo:
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caseg fraith was shallow water soloing last sat.you needed waders to spot.
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what you mean the new member from the states? i don't remember him being that big
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no i mean it was like the venice of the north kingston upon dull.except nobody was trying to steal our mats as an insurance scam.
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They weren't stealing, they were borrowing. They just didn't know who from.
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How are conditions at the mo?
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Was there this afternoon and pretty much everything was affected by seepage in some way or another, pill box was in pretty good nick though.
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Yes I was there as well and it was pretty dire. Rockatrocity was doable although you had to dry the last pocket out. Trigger cut was wet at the top. Clever Beaver completely soaked. The Left wall traverse was pretty much dry. Water dripping onto pads constantly from the roof and seepage everywhere... :wall:
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Rapid recovery from the deluge - cave was pretty dry tonight.
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Anyone been to Pill Box in last day or two? Presuming there will be a fair bit of wind so may actually yield good conditions this evening?
Split Infinity looking OK also?
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Split Infinity and Pill Box both in fairly good nick last night. Some dampness (not of the sticky variety though) around the place.
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The Box was in awesome nick aye! The cave was like a menstruating gargoyle she was.
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Very good conditions tonight, and very dry.
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The marine drive is closed until further notice because of rockfall (shud be open by wednesday i reckon).
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Helen John went over today and she was told it would be open by Tuesday.
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Yeah, our advanced party got told Tuesday. Apparently there has been rockfall just after Mayfair Wall, but other sources told me somewhere up by Excursion. Either way I hope it hasn't affected any routes.
On a different note, we all baled over to Angel Bay (after being rained out of Ogwen) where one of our party managed to rip off the crimpy lump just right of the pinchy lump on Limpet. This change makes Limp Wrist harder and the sitter to Limpet pretty much impossible using my method (and I can't see any other way of getting into the standup without the lump for the left with a cross over onto the pinch with the right).
However the hold will definitely fit back easily and there are plans afoot to sika it on again if no one objects. Obviously the Angel Bay loving hordes on UKB will be as distraught as I was when the hold came off (ok so Panton, Doylo and maybe one or two others may be mildly inerested). If it had been the actual pinch hold, I think I would have cried. And if I hadn't already done the sitstarts to both Limp Wrist and Limpet, I think I would have cried myself to sleep last night.
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yeah i would have been distarught if the pinch itself had come off, the rockfall was between the cutway and testament area, i was there soon after. I think it was a result of all the rain that morning.
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Ah right, so no where near excursion then. Bloody punters.
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Some distressing news: I was going over to the Ormes this evening, but thought I'd call Conwy Council first and find out if the Marine Drive was open yet. A lady in highways informed me that the first section of the road was expected to be shut until a week on Thursday (i.e. 4th Oct). Obviously you can still drive over the top and access the crags beyond the zig-zags, and you can still get to LPT via the beach, and there is always Little Orme, etc...
I called Doylo and he nearly broke down in tears on the phone. (I'm actually crying :( tears of despair as I type this, which proves that I'm more of an Ormesman than him.)
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So can you still walk up to Parisella's, or is the road closed to pedestrians too?
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Closed to cars and pedestrians unfortunately.
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Oh dear. I have a friend who will be just as distraught as Doylo. :(
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No LPT either apparently:
http://thebmc.co.uk/News.aspx?id=2145 (http://thebmc.co.uk/News.aspx?id=2145)
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yes i have a tear permantly residing in my Japs eye at the moment, its been a stressful week.
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That's terrible. What a week. What with the hold coming off Limpet/Limp Wrist as well it ain't be the best week by far.
I don't know what to do on Thursday night now. Might just stay in and read some old North Wales Limestone guides.
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Does anyone know if its been opend at all yet? i want to get to the cave so is there anyway of getting to it?
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It's still banned. They start work on Monday to sort out the rockfall and it is expected to take all week. Don't go until it is officially opened, it'll only cause problems if you are caught or seen.
Keep an eye on the BMC website for updates:
http://thebmc.co.uk/News.aspx?id=2145 (http://thebmc.co.uk/News.aspx?id=2145)
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i'm so depressed i'm going back to work!
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ok cheers, fingers crossed for it to be finished for this weekend then.
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Any news?
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Doylo called this morning - he reckoned it was open again.
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she's open alright!
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Only you Chris could make the removal of an access restriction sound vaguely rude!
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well it gave me a boner being back on the orme!
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Boning aside what were conditions like?? Dry?
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Boning whilst dry :thumbsdown:
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Hard to bone when it's wet. Slipery holds and all that.
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What sort of boning are we talking here? Obviously not the same...
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Half term next week and I would love some help as to whether it's worth the drive at the moment?
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I was on the Ormes tonight (first time in ages, god it was good to be back!) - everything was dry, despite the fact that it rained this morning.
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Totally boners yesterday am-pm.
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Sticky damp today like a moist pair of............ Pill box was soaked though :thumbsdown:
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Anyone been down there today? Is it still sticky damp or just rank damp now? Likewise, if you've been that way, what's the state of Split Infinity and Dumbell Flyer?
Thanks.
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It was so sunny here today I didn't bother with the Ormes: went up the Pass late afternoon and it was absolutely mint, just perfect. Thus I'm guessing that the Cave/SI will also be in good nick. Looks like rain tomorrow, so you haven't got much choice, unless you go to somewhere like Pantymwyn.
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Thanks Simon, I was thinking that given the forecast the Orme would be the only real bet tomorrow and figured the recent dryish weather might give it a chance of being dryish there. Sunday looks well better so I may get out in the hills then.
As for Pantymwyn, there's not a hope of catching me down there ever again without a harness or perhaps a fleeting glance when running past. Pantymwyn and I are not good friends.
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Oh and Monolith, I can't believe you just gave me positive karma for asking about Cave conditions. It's a momentous day in my climbing life. I won't look back... next you'll find me cleaning off Roadrunner cave then next I'll be "training for the board" by pulling on shitty crimps on some obscure problem amongst hundreds of quality lines that I won't go near.
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the only thing monolith knows about shitty crimps is nothing
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:lol:
Bit harsh Dense, he knows more about crimps than slopers, that's for sure.
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Leave my fingers alone you frauds. If it was possible to fix Roadrunner Ben, I'd quit conventional living and employ full time art restoration-style tactics on it. Alas I'm told its not.
Dense - :'(
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If it was possible to fix Roadrunner Ben, I'd quit conventional living and employ full time art restoration-style tactics on it. Alas I'm told its not.
Where there's a will, there's a way. All you'd need is a crowbar, a big pot if glue and some creative vision, and I'm sure that a stable climbing 'surface' could be established. Might be worth a punt? :-\ There is of course the possibility, that after all the effort access would be withdrawn (it was always pretty tenuous anyway), or that the crag would just collapse in a pile of rubble burying Monolith just as he completed the final slap on his most evil crimpfest creation.
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I'd quit conventional living
And what the fuck is conventional about living in a chalk filled, curry stained bedroom that is only accessible via a small gap under a campus board and usually also contains a lanky, grinning fool with his fingers stuck in an extra hot speciality Nor tandoori curry? That ain't 2.4 children and a Ford Focus...
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Hey, don't knock the Ford Focus - a dead reliable and surprisingly nippy mobile - or the 2.4 kids, who can also be surprisingly nippy, when it suits them.
Cave was very dry this afty, even the sidepull on Lou Ferrino was completely drip free. Pretty cold when we first got there (about 3 ish), then suddenly, and strangely, got quite warm around 4 (incoming warm front?), resulting in some slippy redpoint busting greasiness. I got dumped on the deck a few times - it was the conditions, honest guvnor!
On the Roadrunner tip - I hear that Nodder may have already started to de-scale the crag. Like I said, where's there a will, there's a way.
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Definitely looked like someone`s been having a go at roadrunner when I went past on a double decker recently.
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I'm deadly serious in that if he needs a hand, I'll come over and help. Really. No really.
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Any idea what kind of condition the cave will be in tomorrow? Psyched for a trip!
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Tricky call. Just spoken to a mate who was there today - he said it was damp, but climbable with some drying of holds. This is not seepage, it's just moisture associated with the temperature rise over the last few days. The temperature forecast for tomorrow is pretty high (12 degrees), so it may be still damp. There's not a lot of wind around to dry the rock off. I might be going late afternoon, as I've got to go to Colwyn Bay at some point.
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Turned out to be 'okay' this afternoon, probably because the temperature had dropped a bit from yesterday. A bit damp and some seepage starting to come through, but had a very good session in the end; ticked a couple of things I've never done before. Danny slipped off with his hands in the jugs at the end of Director's Cut, but then had to leave to go to work. ::)
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The cave was pretty much boners today but starting to seep a little in places, hold on LW high etc. Pillbox was totally boners though!
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Can I get a hooooooo if it'll be dry tomorrow.
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As I suspected, the sudden temperature rise did trigger a wave of dampness. Got a phone call from a mate at the crag late morning - said it was minging. By the time we got there mid afternoon it was already drying out nicely. Warmed up in Split Infinity (mostly dry), then went for a great session at Manor Crag. Conditions here were very good: windy and sunny - and JB will love this bit, it was just like being on some South Lakes limestone; a very Woodwell-esque venue.
Went to Fat Cat for pint afterwards - there was no bitter on, but had very fine jug of Euro Blond lager thang, plus some reassuringly expensive crisps (it was Hock's round).
I'm sure that is enough information to plan your day trip out from the 'Pool.
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Merci beaucoup monsieur, that was practically a columns worth!
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JB will love this bit, it was just like being on some South Lakes limestone; a very Woodwell-esque venue.
Light fuse and run away :lol:
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Looking out to the Orme from Bangor and it looks fine plenty of wind about too :thumbsup:
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Anyone seen how it's handling the current monsoon season conditions?
Thanks.
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The unusually high temperatures yesterday resulted in a wave of dampness coming through, but I'm told (via a text from Doylo) it is much better today. Don't forget Manor Crag, if all else fails.
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Excellent stuff, thanks for the response Simon.
I'm pretty new in terms of Caveness, so forgive my further questioning... given the high winds along with rain expected tomorrow and Sunday, will it usually stay reasonably dry in there (apart from wind blown damp) or will heavy rain quickly get stuff wet? Bit of a shit, unanswerable question really, but I haven't got the experience to know how it reacts to crap weather. Feel free to ignore my question if you think it's daft.
Don't forget Manor Crag, if all else fails.
What, if I want to get blown away by the westerlies?
Actually, I'm pretty down with the Manor vibe. Some unsung gems up therre.
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Just back from a cave session. Yesterday's dampness had completely gone, which I did expect as the temperature dropped by 6 degrees in 24 hours. There is some seepage though, but not enough to stop you having a decent session.
Doylo had been round to Pill Box; he said it was totally dry (apart from Chocolate Wall), but hellish in the strong wind.
As for your question - heavy rain doesn't matter that much in the cave/Split Infinity area. Obviously sustained torrential rain for days on end will lead to heavy seepage, but this is rare, and certainly not the case at the moment. If it is windy and fairly cold then conditions are likely to be good. Warm temperatures and stillness are the death knell for cave conditions.
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yes hopefully not the only time i'll get blown off this weekend.
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you won't be doing the blowing off?but you promised!
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any updates on conditions :please: planning on a right good :spank: tomorrow :thumbsup:
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Let me know what it is like tomorrow please Jamie! Going to be heading down for round 3 with the attrocity on Tuesday, then hopefully back on Pill Box to conquer the other nemesis or most likely receive a :spank:
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No worries, rock atrocity for myself tomorrow and pillbox Tuesday I reckon. Is that down for 3 o clock! bit late in the day isn't it?
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Sorry man.. I meant it as a boxing anology - round 3 of my struggle/fight ;)
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Sorry man.. I meant it as a boxing anology - round 346 of my long drawn out defeat ;)
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Almost everything dry today except crimp on Lou Ferrino and hold on lip for Clever Beaver although the crimp on Loui was drying out nicely, conditions were a bit glassy and well baltic. Pill box was mint and ultra baltic and windy. :great:
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Music to my ears - cheers for the headsup.
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Bear in mind all the grit in the uk was also in primo condition today, and should be tomorrow also. Doesn't suffer from seepage either.
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Can I get a grit masterclass from you then I might actually climb on it.
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This month he's only doing masterclasses in how to sound like a mystic whilst talking about the weather.
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You think its a coincidence Gib gets the rainy week, we really need to get some gimp in to cover for first quarter weeks though.
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Bear in mind all the grit in the uk was also in primo condition today, and should be tomorrow also. Doesn't suffer from seepage either.
Same could be said of Porth Ysgo, Talfarach etc, or indeed any of the areas in the Pass or Ogwen. And as Super Furry pointed out the Cave seepage you alluded to has already dwindled away to a mere dribble.
Forecast looks excellent for the next week - get it all while you can folks! :bounce:
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Can anyone let me know what conditions have been like recently? Thinking of going on Fri/Sat or Sunday (Thinking of combining it with some pass action, or as an alternative if it pisses down!)
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Was there Christmas eve and it was in ok nick a bit of seepage here and there, it`s not been raining much over that way so it should be ok for you I reckon.
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its fucked
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Pipe down Doyle! Nothing a towel and a bag of psyche couldn't sort out. Would have been easier to climb in my shower actually...
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What? A minute ago it was some kind of all weather wall-alternative?
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its fucked
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What? A minute ago it was some kind of all weather wall-alternative?
It was wet yes, but if you can be bothered it can be towelled and maintained throughout the session. Granted this takes motivation and effort but I'd prefer to be in the cave than a shitty indoor wall anyday. I have video evidence to back up my claims incidentally ;)
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What kind of nicks it in? not sure why i`m asking as i`ll be going anyway whatever state it`s in :thumbsup:
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Did you go to the cave today jamie? What nick was is it in. Think I might make a trip on sat. Cheers John.
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Sorry John but I`ve not been this week, hopefully someone will be along soon with a heads up.
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Was there on Tuesday and Rockattrocity was the only thing with every hold still dry. Lou Ferrino was pretty fucked as were Left Wall and beaver problems/lip area.
Pill Box was absolutely boners though, so we still managed to make the most of the day!
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I may be a One Trick Pony (I know that, mind)
But if you can't see that Parisellas Cave is the greatest threat to UK bouldering then you are f.u.c.k.e.d.
It's your funeral.
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Crumbs! All got a bit frisky last night. :-[
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I may be a One Trick Pony (I know that, mind)
But if you can't see that Parisellas Cave is the greatest threat to UK bouldering then you are f.u.c.k.e.d.
It's your funeral.
change the record houdini, why do people who hate limestone bother looking at this thread
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mermunny mermunny ner ne ner ner :whistle:
why do people who hate limestone bother looking at this thread
Specifically, to annoy and provoke a defensive reaction, for personal amusement. Why else? ;)
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Did I mention how the Breck Road area often stays dry when other areas are smeed out:
(http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/upload/news/Breck%20Road%20area%20topo%20copy.jpg)
http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=323 (http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=323)
Yet another good reason (as if there weren't enough already) to get back to the Ormes. Just heard that another cool link got done today - Breck Road into the highball finish of Burning Sphincter V6/7a (get yer heel up if you're wondering about the grade).
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Good work Simon, your photo topo is waaaay better than my biro version that I've drawn into my rather haggard copy of NWB.
I'll second the wet/damp weatherability of this area. It's been pretty bone up there each time I've been to the cave lately, even when the cave/Split are greasy as f*ck. I'll also commend the quality of everything that I've done up there; some excellent problems that really don't feel like much else in the area.
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I may be talking out of my burning sphincter :-[ when I say that them roof problems up at the Breck Road area are some of the best in North Wales, that iv`e been on anyway. :thumbsup: in fact I think I might head up there today ;D
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After thinking about it last night, although I agree with what I said yesterday (obviously) and with Superfurrymonkey, I like the fact that no-one is ever up there so I take back my comments... It's shit up at Dumbell Flyer. Not worth the stagger up the incline.
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Cave conditions for the weekend anyone? Will it seep, yay or nay?
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Was a sopping mess yesterday sack it. Especially f you're heading over from Sheff or the likes.
Disclaimer: Contrary to my assessment, you may get a more up to date/enthusiastic report.
Also, there's a smite welling up for any nay sayers feeling the need to slag my current shelter!
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Just spent a week's hols in N Wales, in the rain. Had a brief look at Parisella's on Wednesday (16th) and it was seepage city. Out of interest, the only bit of dry rock I found was Harvey Oswald at Milestone. Except fot the top, obviously.
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I heard it was pretty wet on Wednesday. We thought about driving over to Manor crag, but instead went for a Cromlech session, which despite some streaks of drainage and spitting rain was really good in the end - in fact the best laugh I've had at a crag in ages. It's amazing how you can turn a day around with some good humour and the right people (Jonny boy and CJD I salute your keenness, both for obscure classics and pints of frothy ale afterwards).
As for the prospects of finding dry rock on the Ormes this weekend - It isn't looking good. High temperatures and endless days of rain. That said, Saturday is probably your best bet as the temperature is lower, which should keep the dampness at bay. Seepage is quiet bad at the moment, although there will be things to do, there nearly always is.
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GCW - did you check Carreg Hylldrem? That stays dry in all but the most humid and minging of weather.
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Nope, had the wife and 2 kids to consider so only had a look here and there. Cromlech boulders were soaked when I looked on Monday. I plan a return visit at some point, so cheers for the heads-up.
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I was there that day Tom and had a decent sesh working left wall into the start of rock atrocity, which was also in not too bad nick and could have been rescued with some toweling dry etc............. it`s also very windy here at the moment.
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Its pretty windy but its just keeps pissing from the heavens, i'm not going back til it stops raining so i certainly wouldn't advise travelling to go there unless you want to work the Cave Life section that superfurry refers to. Even the new Pill Box, Breck Road is getting sacked. BTW this place is awesome and is not climbed out yet!
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Even the new Pill Box, Breck Road is getting sacked.
Really? Downer.
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Cheers folks. That's saved my merry gang a not so merry trip.
Bloody rain.
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Even the new Pill Box, Breck Road is getting sacked.
Really? Downer.
yeah it was climbable on monday but gettin proper mingin the next day
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Thanks for the excellent update service! Keep it up and we'll try to oblige with a similar level of updates when Woodwell returns to form (if anyone is actually interested of course).
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Johnny Brown will be for sure.
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:lol:
Yeah, I reckon we could text him the info straight to his mobile just to keep him informed at all times.
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I'm not sure you can get reception down at the climbing wall, so he might not get the texts. Maybe if we rang reception they could pass a message on to him.
And don't forget about dear old Houdini - even when he is out of the country I know his thoughts are rarely far from his spiritual home: the Marine Drive.
Where there's a will, there's a way. I'm sure if we all pull together we can keep JB and Houdini informed. It's this sense of community that keeps me coming back to UKB - keep it up lads and lasses, I'm proud of you all!
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Less of the old, fuckmush! ;)
My spies are legion.
(For the record, I've climbed everywhere but the Diamond on the Ormes.)
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What, even Craig Pen Gogarth?!! You are my hero!
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Wow Houdini, have you even been up to the elusive Badger Cave? What are the routes in Dutchman's Zawn like?
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Find out for yourselves.
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Now, I won't say too much as it upsets Doylo (and he's all right so we must be nice). There's a difference in hating lime & hating poor quality rock. Not in the same galaxy nevermind ball park. There is the odd area I won't have been, but I didn't go there because I hated it; it was lack of or better opportunities. The only place I took trad seriously was not the Pass or Dinorwig but Pembroke (a place to push yourself on great gear) I have climbed much lime, I've been to the Frankenjura more than once; I've climbed across the limestone outcrops of N. Germany too (places you may never have heard of . . . ) & a little Thai. Can't wait to get to the NZ lime, I fizz at the thought. I love steepness, I'm good at it.
Every now and again I like to go to the cave - just to remind myself that I'm doing the right thing by avoiding it and climbing higher quality rock. I think (reaching) maybe this is why JB & others have better things to do also.
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Just had a report from the cave and there`s not a dry hold to be had anywhere including split infinity and the breck road area. :(
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Find out for yourselves.
:off:
Now, I won't say too much as it upsets Doylo (and he's all right so we must be nice). There's a difference in hating lime & hating poor quality rock. Not in the same galaxy nevermind ball park. There is the odd area I won't have been, but I didn't go there because I hated it; it was lack of or better opportunities. The only place I took trad seriously was not the Pass or Dinorwig but Pembroke (a place to push yourself on great gear) I have climbed much lime, I've been to the Frankenjura more than once; I've climbed across the limestone outcrops of N. Germany too (places you may never have heard of . . . ) & a little Thai. Can't wait to get to the NZ lime, I fizz at the thought. I love steepness, I'm good at it.
Every now and again I like to go to the cave - just to remind myself that I'm doing the right thing by avoiding it and climbing higher quality rock. I think (reaching) maybe this is why JB & others have better things to do also.
it doesn't upset me Houdini, i just think your drum will be needing a new skin if you keep banging on it like you do. I appreciate that for you rock quality is one of the things that inspire you. It is for me too but i'm more inspired by the actual moves and lime (especially the cave :o) provides some damn fine movement.
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I respect your opinion, my friend.
I posted that extra stuff to make it clear that you were wrong to label me a lime hater: catagorically incorrect.
As for drums . . . They're 10 a penny ;)
I feel for the Noden - every man and his dog has done Clyde now. Is he still obsessive over it?
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Went to the cave yesterday, more out of curiosity than anything else. It was the wettest I have ever seen it: not a single square inch of dry rock in the cave itself or up at Breck Road and maybe three dry holds in Split Infinity.
Did a litter pick, scoped some new lines and then went to the Plas y Brenin wall. This was the first time in over 2 years that I have failed to find dry rock, so it was quite a novelty going back to all that dusty chalk and sweaty ming. Unless this warm wet weather breaks I can see myself becoming a serious plastic monkey.
Actually my predictions are:
temp drop on tuesday - might be climbable
warm again on wednesday - wet
cold again on thursday - very likely to be dry and climbable
So keep the faith all you cave devotees, there is light at the end of this (very) wet tunnel..
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One feels a bit like a harbinger of serious doom posting on this thread in recent times. I could show you some footage of Pit of Hell in a practical bathtub. Needless to say, maintenance was hard work!
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Was the lakes/ N.yorks dry again on sunday? I know northumberland was, bit far for a day though.
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Thanks for your concern JB (very touching that you would care about our plight), but I couldn't travel on Sunday as I had other business to take care of in the morning. (I am mildly gutted though to know that others were out and about on the grit.)
Ironically, and keeping with the indoor theme, I was checking out a building for a potential training venue with Robins and later teaching my son to lower off at the wall. (I bribed him with a pair of new rock shoes and it worked!)
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Was the lakes/ N.yorks dry again on sunday? I know northumberland was, bit far for a day though.
Did Morecambe and Wise (aka Lee and Andy) have a good time? Went to get the train to meet up for the trip but it cost 55 quid return at the cheapest :o
Actually cheaper return flight by 20 quid to fly to Bergamo from my doorstep. Has the idea of an economy of scale gone completely out of the window in modern times?
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Here's a pic from yesterday, just to show how bad it was:
(http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/upload/news/Wet%20Cave%20280.jpg)
more pics here:
http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=324 (http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=324)
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Looks awful. Is it wet?
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I wonder if Mick could put this as a news item on UKC??
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The weather in North Wales has held out well this winter, with favourable climbing conditions existing right up until this week, whilst it has to be said the Peak and Yorkshire have been a total washout.
I'd take issue with this. You're suggesting Wales has had better weather than the peak and yorkshire? Or that you have a cave that doesn't get wet very often?
“That is definitely the wettest I have ever seen this crag in all the years I have been climbing here.” Commented a disappointed Si Panton, before adding:.
I thought you wrote this? Don't start the third person thing, its a slippery slope...
Fiend, you beat me to it!
;)
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I know it's a bitter pill for you Peak freaks to swallow, but the simple fact is that there are more opportunities for climbing outside in North Wales than there are in the Peak, or Yorkshire. This is because the bad weather that we get (and we do get plenty of bad weather) tends to pass through quickly, and we have lots of quick drying or extremely sheltered crags that remain dry, unless there is a period of sustained rain and high humidity/unusually warm weather (as was the case this last week, which is the first time this season that I have been thwarted).
I don't really see how you can contest that - JB, I know you are deluded, but this a step too far.
Third person - sorry JB, is the irony a bit too subtle for you? I'll try and keep things more straightforward in future. ::)
And Fiend - is this not a thread about the conditions in the cave? And the story comes from a website about bouldering in North Wales. Seems pretty appropriate to me, non? :shrug:
Somebody's Fool - you're a funny guy, clearly jealous, but funny all the same. :wave:
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Somebody's Fool - you're a funny guy, clearly jealous, but funny all the same. :wave:
Funny how?
I like this thread. ;D
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Funny weird.
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funny looking
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Funny smelling.
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I know it's a bitter pill for you Peak freaks to swallow, but the simple fact is that there are more opportunities for climbing outside in North Wales than there are in the Peak, or Yorkshire. This is because the bad weather that we get (and we do get plenty of bad weather) tends to pass through quickly, and we have lots of quick drying or extremely sheltered crags that remain dry, unless there is a period of sustained rain and high humidity/unusually warm weather (as was the case this last week, which is the first time this season that I have been thwarted).
I don't really see how you can contest that - JB, I know you are deluded, but this a step too far.
I don't really want to get into a peak vs eyri debate, but believe me, if the weather was better in wales, (and the orme was made of gritstone) I'd live there. Living here I miss the mountains and the sea. But I've seen the thousand yard stares of you guys, turning up at stanage after ninety days continuous rain. I'd go mad. Or move.
I think the difference in sheffield is the temptation of six different walls including the both biggest in the world and the most famous tends to curb the exploratory instincts.
Even Stanage gets far less rain than snowdonia, this is fact, crags like rivelin, wharncliffe, cratcliffe etc far less. Whereas you have porth ysgo, within a similar drive we have the churnet which is similarly subject to different weather. You have the orme and hylldrem, yes we have stoney, pleasley, roche abbey etc. Gogarth, well we can't compete with that but then this is a bouldering forum.
This is because the bad weather that we get (and we do get plenty of bad weather) tends to pass through quickly
This is hilarious. You do live in the pass, yes? Not Ynys Enlli? I suppose the problem is the next lot is just very close behind, and the gap passes just as quickly?
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. . . after ninety days continuous rain.
Pah! That's n.o.t.h.i.n.g.
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JB you are just so stubborn - once you get an idea in your head, however wrong, and even when all the evidence points in the other direction, you hang in there, bluntly refusing to accept the truth.
Unlike you I have lived for a considerable amount of time in both North Wales (12 years) and Yorkshire/the Peak (10 years). I'm speaking from direct and extensive experience. You're just clinging to an age old 'Wales is wet' cliche. My climbing diary bears witness to what I say: and that is (I repeat) that there are more opportunities for climbing outside in North Wales in a typical year than there are in the Peak. I know this is true (not because of some spurious rainfall statistic, but through real experience) and if you ever spent a winter season climbing over here you'd know the same too. I also reckon that you would be pleasantly surprised at the quality of the new wave of Ormes problems - and if not, just think of all those quick drying slate routes, or old favourites like the Porth Ysgo areas.
And by the way it's Eryri, not Eyri. Think how narked you get when someone says Peaks instead of Peak.
Getting back to the meat of the thread, the Ormes had dried up considerably yesterday afternoon - had a good session. It's gone warm again today, but tomorrow is looking cold, followed by a run of dry weather which should see the remaining seepage lines drying up.
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I'm speaking from extensive experience.
Listen to the man JB, Simon's ancient. ;)
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Apologies for the welsh typo.
Si, like you I've made a fairly major choice based on my opinion, so you can be sure I'm as sure of my truth as you are of yours. Its not like I don't go to wales regularly, or speak to a dejected Robbins. Its also worth pointing out that although Almscliff dries quick, the peak in general has better weather than west yorks - mainly due to an improved rainshadow effect, again fact not opinion. As said above, I am jealous of some of the things you have in wales, the weather isn't one of them.
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There are ALWAYS a variety of options for bouldering in and around the Peak in all weather except prolonged drizzle (which we don't get much of). Granted crag selection can be a subtle business requiring good crag and weather knowledge, which many people (including many lazy locals) don't have, but there's very rarely no good bouldering to be had. Yorkshire seems to have less options on wet days, but maybe that's my lack of local knowledge. I don't know Wales well enough to make a comparison.
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Well said. As above, the reasons that these aren't made full use of is folk would rather go to the wall. In wales that option is less appealing.
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the peak does have options for wet winter days, but these tend to be either miles drive with no guarantees (churnet), not dry after torrential rain (tor, stoney), prone to flooding (rubicon) or very very limited when you do get there and find it dry, especially if you've been to them before (goose feature, WSS, stump hole, hueco wall etc). for some people they may want to use winter to get strong for the summer, in which case you can't fault people for not wanting to go and do chapel of rest 10 times as training.
On the other hand, if you live in llandudno you can just pop round the orme to check it out, or if you live in the pass you can phone someone who is there. I'm afraid north wales do have it better than us in this respect. On the other hand we can climb on dry rock all summer in tollerable temperatures straight out of the car without having to spend 45mins walking uphill to get there :wink: given the choice i'd take the peak overall since there are (for me) about 5 times as many summer climbing days in the year as there are winter days.
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without having to spend 45mins walking uphill to get there...
Yeah, there's no roadside crags in North Wales at all. ::)
JB, with regard to the Yorkshire vs Peak thing - you may be right about this to an extent. But don't forget that it is possible to climb at Malham in the winter, and that there are a few obscure grit venues which provide some shelter from the rain (eg. West Vale, Woodhouse). I would still say that I have more experience of climbing in the Peak (when I lived in Huddersfield I spent around 30% of my time climbing in the Peak) than you have of North Wales. I also talk regularly on the phone to Al Williams - hardly a wall monkey, I'm sure you'd agree. So I stand by my original assertion.
As for Robins - he is a bit more routes orientated than me (especially in the winter), and thus is more likely to have his plans scuppered by wet rock. He also has less work flexibility than me. I am surprised he was moaning so much though - he seemed pretty excited about the new problems up at Breck Road a few weeks ago.
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without having to spend 45mins walking uphill to get there...
Yeah, there's no roadside crags in North Wales at all. ::)
you know what i mean, the stuff at a higher elevation (mallory) etc that is cooler and windier in summer.
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On the other hand, if you live in llandudno you can just pop round the orme to check it out
Who lives in llandudno? Patch?
I am surprised he was moaning so much though - he seemed pretty excited
No specifics - just he has told me of occasions where it has rained every day in 'beris for three months straight. I think stats like this are where your "wales is wet" 'myth' comes from.
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Anyway,
Anyone been to the ormes today? i heard it was quite sunny anything climbable?
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Who lives in llandudno? Patch?
Yeah, he's got the place all to himself . . .
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Who lives in llandudno?
Lots of aged, infirm and ailing scousers waiting to die. Maybe they could do something useful and check on cave conditions for us every few hours.
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I wouldn't say no to a web cam pointed at the cave, but if you go to the Ormes a lot it becomes quite easy to predict the conditions. The only time I'd really have second thoughts about going is if there was a sudden temp rise. Rain, unless it is very persistent, and continuing for many days, is largely irrelevant.
JB - even if it did rain every day for 3 months in Llanberis (which it never does), you could still climb outside if you wanted to. You might not be able to climb the specific thing you were after, but you could still climb at one of several venues within 30 - 60 minutes drive.
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ditto in sheffield. And it rains less. Let me reiterate that is a fact.
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Fuckin' Nora, at least when I was bumming this thread is was out of good ol' fashioned spite.
Now it's turned into a thread for Britishers to argue over where it rains most! :'(
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Well you lot are all gay because it rains in manchester more which happens to be about an hours drive from most decent bouldering venue's in the UK
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Not to mention only ten minutes from Hobson Moor.
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it rains in manchester more
Of course you mean more than the Orme, but not Eryri, which is the wettest part of Wales and on a par with The Lake district and the West Highlands.
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All in all, Cornwall rips it all apart.
Good Weather, Granite, I have lived in all the main climbing areas in the UK, (apart from the county, where you can climb everyday at Kyloe.)
Its all good, but its hard to beat The Peak...
Its got some off the most respected problems on the planet.
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Well you lot are all gay because it rains in manchester more which happens to be about an hours drive from most decent bouldering venue's in the UK
Well I'm moving to manchester on the back of that recommendation.
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What?
To Manchester? That nexus of UK homme culture?
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Just thought I'd check some of JB's 'facts'. Turns out that in the period 1961 -1990 that Colwyn Bay had less rainfall than Sheffield in the winter months of November to February.
Sheffield : 311.5mm
Colwyn Bay : 280.1mm
These are average figures.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/averages/19611990/sites/sheffield.html (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/averages/19611990/sites/sheffield.html)
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/averages/19611990/sites/colwyn_bay.html (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/averages/19611990/sites/colwyn_bay.html)
I'm sure if I could get figures for Stanage I'd get an even bigger difference.
So, less rainfall and the crags are much more sheltered, plus around the most sheltered area (Marine Drive) you have a massive (and arguably unparalleled) concentration of mid to hard grade problems. It's a no brainer who's got the best option.
:dance1:
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Without wanting to enter the weather gangland..
(Tentatively speaking) it's stunning conditions looking out Ormewards from the studio. Rain in Hathersage you say?? ;)
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Colwyn Bay? It's not just because of the stunning beaches and vibrant nightlife that it's called the North Wales Riviera you know.
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Eat my goal!!!
:great:
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Couldn't I just as easily 'prove' the opposite by getting the stats for Rotherham v Llanberis....
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They dragged Llanber' to the coast!
W O W - that Geoff Capes, huh?!
*more juvenile sneegahs*
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The problem with averages (be they mean, mode or median) is that they mask the detail.
Whilst 'on average' Sheffield had more, its highly possible that most of it came down in a few heavy sessions (a la the heavy floods last year). :-\
So they're barely worth the paper their written on, oh hang on this isn't paper!
I'd highly recommend How to Lie with Statistics (http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Lie-Statistics-Penguin-Business/dp/0140136290/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1201170124&sr=8-1) by Darrell Huff ;)
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As others have pointed out, at no point in this thread have I claimed it rains less in Colwyn bay then Sheffield. If you dare Si, try comparing, say, Llanberis to Hathersage? That would be fairer, yes?
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you can prove anything with statistics, 67% of the population knows that. especially when the stats are 17-years old. i would be interested to see if with global warming and a wetter climate whether its effected all the UK in the same way, or if the gulfstream-catching mountains of the west come off worse.
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The whole point of this is that it doesn't matter if it rains a lot in Llanberis - nobody is disputing that.
The weather at Colwyn Bay is what matters, because that is where we spend the majority of our time in the winter.
Dave, JB was the one who introduced 'rainfall facts' into the discussion. I was merely showing the truth behind his sweeping statement. The crux of my argument (that there are more opportunities for climbing outside in N Wales than the Peak) is based on experience, not rainfall stats.
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Just trying to explain where your 'wales is wet' myth comes from.
the truth behind his sweeping statement.
is:
The average rainfall for the Peak District varies from about 750mm in the south to over 1000mm in the north
With high rainfall (summit of Snowdon 4,343mm, Llanberis 2,016mm)
The weather at Colwyn Bay is what matters, because that is where we spend the majority of our time in the winter.
Whereas in the peak we get to climb on the great grit edges, the pride of the district and the most famous aspect of british climbing worldwide. If the great welsh winter outdoor experience really revolves around Colwyn bay then you can keep it.
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There is only one way to settle this.........
(http://i28.tinypic.com/35jwjdi.jpg)
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Or maybe...............
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=The+Peak&word2=North+Wales
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this is SCIENCE
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=hathersage+pissing+rain&word2=llanberis+pissing+rain (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=hathersage+pissing+rain&word2=llanberis+pissing+rain)
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Nice work Dave! I think that settles it. Or this (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=wales+rubbish+bouldering&word2=peak+rubbish+bouldering) perhaps?
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Settled or not, its a quality thread... You can tell the weather's been a bit crap lately.
This thread won't feel the same come the summer and people are posting about how certain problems are bone dry or slightly damp or friction isn't that good etc etc.
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I've lived in Sheff and wales. To be honest it pisses down a lot in both places but there are more opportunities for climbing in wales cos
a) we have a cave
b) we have a windy orme
c) we have a guy called Ian Wyatt who has a bag full of towels for drying holds
And it defo rains a lot less on the ormes than it does in the mountains, thats a fact!
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Back on topic (not that I didn't thoroughly enjoy sparring with all you Peakies yesterday) - the Ormes were back in prime condition yesterday afternoon. Dry and cold. 8)
The top hold in the groove on Cockney Nutjob has parted company with the crag - Hock re-climbed this at about 7a+.
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Breck Road was almost completely dry today. I repeated Swing of Fire (2nd asc??), absolutely fantastic problem, one of the best i've done on the ormes, nice one Pete. It took me ages before i could hold the swing, also figured out a way of doing the last move (still tricky!) without campussing.
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I think that is a 2nd ascent - we didn't get past the swing.
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More good news, just heard from the mule that the Mwyn is climbable too.
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Just got some pics in from Pete Robins. Here's Doylo making the second ascent of Swing of Fire:
(http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/upload/news/Swing%20of%20Fire%202%20280.jpg)
More pics here:
http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=325 (http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=325)
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Cave was mint today as was the Breck RD area, got some footage of Rob Lamey sending the awesome Swing of Fire which I`ll put up soon.
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Anyone know what conditions are like on the orme?, pref the cave?
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It was mint yesterday.
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anyone been there recently? may be making a trip over there in the morrow
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Ask Nibile. ;D
Or text Rich or Tom, they were there yesterday.
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its pretty dry
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muchos gracias amigos
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Breck Road was almost completely dry today. I repeated Swing of Fire (2nd asc??), absolutely fantastic problem, one of the best i've done on the ormes, nice one Pete. It took me ages before i could hold the swing, also figured out a way of doing the last move (still tricky!) without campussing.
For any Swing of Fire aspirants (of which there should be many) myself and ding dong cleaned up a crimp in the black streak which makes the last move easier. This is good news cos it was a hard move before. No change in grade.
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what grade does that go at?
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V8/7b
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cheers mate!
PS. Ben my head still hurts ;)
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Don't stand in front of me when I have a fully loaded paintball gun then. Even if you are in my "team".
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duly noted my southern friend. Redemption will be swift!!! ;)
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I am not a fuckin' cockney you tit. ;)
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But you are a Chelsea fan tho :P
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You've just got very close to being puntered mate. >:(
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My humble apologies Guvnor ;)
But on a serious note, where you playin out at the weekend?
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I was down here yesterday, flapping around, LH wall seemed fairly dry, with some bits of seepage on the main roof, pillar finish etc on split infinity were dry too, with seepage on the right. Sorry if this seems a bit vague, it was my first visit!
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If anyone goes today let me know what is was like as I might go down tomorrow afternoon. I don't know whether all rain blowing in off the sea will have soaked it but there have been prolonged sunny dry spells.
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John, I'm hoping to get there this afternoon. I finish work at 2 tomorrow in Liverpool and may be keen to head down again if it's in nick. Fancy meeting up?
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Yeah sure if its in reasonable nick i'll head down tomorrow afternoon. I'm at the uni so i'll probably finish about 2 as well and then ride back to Wavertree to get my car and head off. Let me know where you want to meet if you want to catch a ride.John.
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ride back to Wavertree to get my car
...if it's still there and not burnt out. ;)
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Ben Ben Ben, is that burnt out car still outside your place??? ???
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It wasn't burnt out. Just unwell. And no, it's gone now.
You live in fuckin' Kenny, so you can't talk. ::)
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thats racist ;)
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I'd call it honesty.
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Couldnt argue with that!
Whats your address ;) ;) :-\
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Ok cave dwellers whats the cave going to be like tomorrow!?
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Forecast is for it to warm up to 10 degrees - it could be rubbish (although 9 degrees today, so maybe okay). A tricky call. Sunday looks much better - only 6 degrees.
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Just got back from Pantymwyn - completely and utterly boners! Well surprising, everything nicely chalked from the liverpool crew (including under the bridge- quality problem).
(http://i32.tinypic.com/qz5ipy.jpg)
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You heading over tomorrow John? I`m thinking of going there tomorrow myself with Ash if I can get hold of him.
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John - If you're heading over from Liverpool tomorrow, drop us a private message if you can. Would be keen to head over.
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Cave was wank today but breck rd saved the day :thumbsup:
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wank in what way Jamie? Andy Farnell is planning a trip tomorrow and i don't want his second ascent of the big link to be faltered by shit conditions!
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Quite a bit more seepage since Thursday and very greasy.
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Aye the mwyn was tolerable to start today, but then proceeded to condense big time.
Doylo, the least you could do for Andy's annual day out to the cave is to go along and towel things off/spot for him/feed him rollies ;)
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Anyone been to the cave today? how dry etc
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your the friggin oracle you tell us!
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Aye lad its ok some parts are still as wet as ya mum though.
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Aye the mwyn was tolerable to start today, but then proceeded to condense big time.
Doylo, the least you could do for Andy's annual day out to the cave is to go along and towel things off/spot for him/feed him rollies ;)
I have to admit I bottled it and went to Malham instead. And bummed a couple of rollies of Malcy instead... Maybe later in the year when I've built up the courage I'll head over to the cave. Maybe
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Aye the mwyn was tolerable to start today, but then proceeded to condense big time.
Doylo, the least you could do for Andy's annual day out to the cave is to go along and towel things off/spot for him/feed him rollies ;)
I have to admit I bottled it and went to Malham instead. And bummed a couple of rollies of Malcy instead... Maybe later in the year when I've built up the courage I'll head over to the cave. Maybe
You coward Andy, if you embrace the cave the cave will embrace you (in time).
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(http://i27.tinypic.com/nz4z2t.jpg)
View from the Cave today- grimness!
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Oh stop your whining, you can climb in worse. Mind you, I suppose you were deep down in the dry sanctuary of her hole?
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yeah me an ian were two ups down there
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heading up to the pass for a few days tomorrow - anyone gonna be out to play?
will prob' end up at the cave if weather persists - please be kind when I fail on the punter end problems :-[
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Well I`m down for the cave tomorrow :thumbsup:
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Was really only cave life that was dry today - rest was pretty wet - and as Doylos picture shows it wern't a drying day. Just a thought for those that would be travelling any distance to go there.
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Glad I didn't bother today, went to broughton instead. The true home of power
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A queer gym there?
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So... it's gonna be fcuked in the cave tomorrow? Is that the general consensus?
Some coed-y-brenin action if it's the case.
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Oh well just have to work cave life then. ;D
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Looks nice and sunny on the Ormes today and quite a wind in blowing in Bangor at the moment.
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So... it's gonna be fcuked in the cave tomorrow? Is that the general consensus?
Some coed-y-brenin action if it's the case.
no it will be mint (in the back of the cave anyway).
Good to meet you again n-man.
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Aye Jamie, I woke up expecting a deluge but it looks immense outside.
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was pretty mintage today!
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I`ll second that with minty minty mint mint
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I'm gonna go on to say it was mintier than a direct hit on a mint factory.
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That`s pretty minty, lets hope it`s the same today ;D
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Mint.
:agree:
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Anyone going today?
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could be a Mwyn day, not raining yet!
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is now. Ahhhhhh :wall:
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So how was the cave? Just been on a non-climbing holiday for just over a week so no idea what the weather has been doing.
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twas alright yesterday but it didn't half rain a lot
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Some things never change.
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Bit more wind today on the coast though!
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Temperature inversion you should know the score by now :wall: pill box was soaked also :thumbsdown: managed to salvage a session by towel drying most of Lou Ferrino so it wasn't a total waste of time.
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better be better today
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great orme was knackered again today but the little orme came to our rescue - so good!
(http://i30.tinypic.com/x54ck4.jpg)
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Anyone been since wednesday?
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Mintier than the Royal Mint Llantrisant Pontyclun CF72 8YT!
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I assume that the Caves dry given the in heaven addition? Is it usually dry from now, or has it rained as much in Wales as Sheffield and therefore got seepage?
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not rained that much so not three bad. i did a new 7b+ on the box today called Last Rites. Very good.
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2i6dh55.jpg)
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Any more info than that?
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Should really have put good effort Doylo first (sorry)..
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Should really have put good effort Doylo first (sorry)..
Ta. On the left hand end of the box (just to the left of the box) is a cool 7a called Last Orders, finishes above the lip (step onto box to finish). Search NWB for more info. Last Rites takes the line to the right from a standup. Not to sure about the grade but the last move is hard for a 7b (small! hold) and you could land on the box if you fall off (hence the name). So i think the spicy-ness adds something to the grade. Pretty cool climbing whatever.
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The sitter now goes at 7c, great climbing and an improvement to the standup.
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Does anyone know if the cave will be in decent condition for a visit on Sunday?
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dry but greasy is my prediction
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Cheers Chris
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Did I mention how the Breck Road area often stays dry when other areas are smeed out:
(http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/upload/news/Breck%20Road%20area%20topo%20copy.jpg)
http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=323 (http://www.northwalesbouldering.com/newsitem.asp?nsid=323)
Yet another good reason (as if there weren't enough already) to get back to the Ormes. Just heard that another cool link got done today - Breck Road into the highball finish of Burning Sphincter V6/7a (get yer heel up if you're wondering about the grade).
Had my first visit to Parisella's yesterday. What an awesome bouldering venue and had a great time, even with it being so hot!
Was wondering if an updated topo (similar to the Breck Road topo) had been produced. It's was difficult working the 'established' lines without the knowledge of a friendly local.
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:agree:
I'm planning a visit later in the year and would love to see and updated topo
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will be heading over tomorrow (thursday). If anyone has a conditions update before then let us know.
I'm going to pull the cave down tomorrow
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Didn't climb in the cave today, but had a quick look in, and conditions seemed to be perfect.
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Jim, leave off the pre-climb fish and chips this time. I don't want that flake to implode!
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Conditions were top. Spotted pantontino doind some dirty routes next door.
Me and saltbeef only tried rock attrosity, both falling off at the end, although saltus fell off the end about 5 or 6 times. I only got there once.
I can't believe how much easy it is in dragons
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oh my god. do holdless slabs feel easier in smearing shoes too?
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Conditions were top. Spotted pantontino doing some classic routes next door.
Me and saltbeef only tried rock attrosity, both falling off at the end, although saltus fell off the end about 5 or 6 times. I only got there once.
I can't believe how much easy it is in dragons
My top tip for the end of RA is to tuck your head under, i.e. don't look at the finishing hold. This gets more weight on your foot. My other top tip is to come and try it when it is actually cold, i.e. in the winter when all the locals boulder in the cave. Fair play, last night it was pretty good conditions, but that is not typical for the summer. Lou Ferrino does get blighted by seepage for a lot of the winter, but RA is nearly always dry.
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In winter everyone but the locals have far better places to go.
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What, like their local climbing wall because all the crags in the Peak are soaking? ;)
(Haven't we been here before? I'm sure I gave you a trouncing last time.)
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What, like their local climbing wall because all the crags in the Peak are soaking? ;)
(Haven't we been here before? I'm sure I gave you a trouncing last time.)
Boys boys, not again! ;)
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It obvious these welshies don't understand good use of conditions. There was a bunch of 'em at Cratcliffe the other day on like the hottest day of the year.
Getting a right spanking, need it be said. Lime in winter, grit in summer, its all wrong!
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Did a magazine deadline have anything to do with it though? ;)
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:whistle:
(you'd think I'd have got myself more organised after all these years; nothing changes)
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going to the cave tomorrow (wednesday) but its forecast rain for tonight and tomorrow, will it still be dry in the cave, especially rock attrosity?
Ta
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Should be alright.
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Jim learn to spell Rockatrocity for lords sake. Anyway good luck, you'll be the first fat bastard to do it since Panton did it in the 90s!
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Well it was a little greasy today. Didn't quite manage it. Will be back next week having not trashed myself on monday night at wimberry so hopefully it will be crushed
atrocity
atrocity
atrocity
atrocity...
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Jim learn to spell Rockatrocity for lords sake. Anyway good luck, you'll be the first perfectly proportioned bastard to do it since Panton did it in the 90s!
Hey Doylo, you're not supposed to get the dreaded 'thickening' (expanding waistline, flabby jowels, getting out of breath on stair cases, etc) until you hit 30 - what's your excuse, tubby? That skinny young boy (your former slimmer self) who could crimp on coin edges is a distant memory, is it not!? Don't worry lad, have another pie...
;)
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Jim learn to spell Rockatrocity for lords sake. Anyway good luck, you'll be the first perfectly proportioned bastard to do it since Panton did it in the 90s!
Hey Doylo, you're not supposed to get the dreaded 'thickening' (expanding waistline, flabby jowels, getting out of breath on stair cases, etc) until you hit 30 - what's your excuse, tubby? That skinny young boy (your former slimmer self) who could crimp on coin edges is a distant memory, is it not!? Don't worry lad, have another pie...
;)
Hook line and sinker ;)
And anyway Panton i've replaced my coin pulling ability with pistons of power!
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having just hit 30 I now have a good excuse for being rotund
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physche.html
That's just a silly way of spelling fish.
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Pretty good this evening for June.
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anyone been today or heard about the conditions in the cave?
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Just recieved an up to date conditions report courtesy of Jamie! No specifics but apparently the cave is half dry but its quite warm. Worth a session though apparently! I'm not convinced!
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sounds shit.
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Doylo, you probably thought you'd never hear this from me, but get yourself to the board for a session. I'm meeting Jack and Gav around 5.30.
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am keen to go this w end but ain't got time tonight
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was seeping badly when we got there Friday night. Very disappointing.
Split infinity was bone dry tho
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Did anyone go yesterday? Just wondering what it will be liek after all this rain?
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I was there on Saturday, and everything was still dry, with no sign of seepage increasing at the time. It was mostly sunny with occasional showers that day. Don't know about yesterday though.
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I went, and whilst it was dry to the touch it was pretty humid and greasy. Or perhaps I was just rubbish.
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Anyone been since the latest rain?
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Bone dry on Thursday pretty good conditions too with the breeze and all.
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Anyone been recently? Is it worth a look tomorrow if it's wet in the Peak?
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dry but a tad grease
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midged out last night!
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anyone been in the last day or 2. Worth a trip over tomorrow?
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might pop over in evening jim, have finished work for the week.
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I'll let you know if we head down. Anyone know if it is dry tho?
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wanting to travel over to the cave in the next few days (13th, 14th August). Does any body know what the conditions are like at the mo?
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What's next on your list yoot, Trigger Cut?
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any seepage in the cave?
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whats the conditions? will it be dry tomorrow?
heading down tomorrow and wed around wales, will be amazing. any of you lot going to be out there?
and will it be dry?
cheers
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Has anyone been down the cave today? Thinking of a late morning / early afternoon hit tomorrow but worried it may be minging!
Metcheck seems to think it will be dry in the morning feeling like 8-10 degrees which aint bad but if it's already saturated it be on for the full jib. :thumbsdown:
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Joe Le taxi/sausage asked me if the cave was dry and the answer (as of last night) is an emphatic yes. Bone dry in fact, even the side pull on Lou Ferrino and the high pinchy block thing on Left Wall High were dry.
I guess the sun always shines in Llandudno... ;)
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Is that why you're always wearing those rose tinted spectacles?
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Just to add, the conditions were amazing on Wednesday. We couldn't believe everything was bone dry and it felt cold ???
It could be in a bad way by now though after another 2 days of torrential rain!
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I guess the sun always shines in Llandudno... ;)
your not wrong
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Here's a pic I took on my special action man eye camera yesterday evening whilst enjoying a post climbing glass of beer at the Fat Cat.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/62/194567597_ce48438bcf.jpg?v=0)
I hadn't noticed the rose tinting before, but now that you mention it I think I'll keep the magic spectacles on, it keeps raining when I take them off.
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I think i'm headin that way on tuesday next week any conditions info would be much appreciated cheers :wave:
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anyone been today? is it pissed wrapped?
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hey guys was thinking of popping up monday is it going to be a busted flush? will there be anywhere to climb that isnt wet :shrug:
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aye, how is the cave looking for monday?
Failing that, how is everything else in North Wales looking? Will the Pass be ok?
Cheers.
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Should be getting a heads up in the morning, was climbing to be had there yesterday and the forecast is looking promising for tomorrow
http://www.para-excellence.co.uk/weather.html (http://www.para-excellence.co.uk/weather.html)
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Have just creamed myself at the thought of being able to climb outside again.
Ned - how long you down in wales for?
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quality, thanks.
Jim, i am only in Wales for the day. Will you be aboot?
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If he cave is dry I'll be there
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Just wondering if anyone went down yesterday and was it in good nick? Is the Lou Ferrino sidepull still dry?
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It was all ok.
LF looked pretty dry. The slot at the end was a bit damp and the footholds at the start might have been wet.
Pretty much everything else was dry i think.
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Lou Ferrino sidepull was gopping Monday.
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Am interested to know the state of play for tomorrow. More interested in other sectors nearby but can never hurt to know how she is.
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The word from Ian is she's in good nick and the side pull on Loui is again usable :thumbsup:
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sweet!
might be down on monday then. You about monday tom?
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Twas ok today, temps are dropping too :great:
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Am thinking of paying a visit to the Cave tomorrow - can anyone provide an update on conditions? :please:
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I had a not so good report on Tuesday and its been raining a lot since, i missed my traditional fri afternoon stint today and went to the wall instead.
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FUCKED. I counted three dry holds this morning...
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boo
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Temperature inversion not seapage though, i was climbing there on friday afternoon.
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any ideas how it looks today?
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Not sure about today (quite warm so probably not that good). Tomorrow sees a 3-4 degree temp drop so should be mint, perhaps with some annoying seepage in places. Rest of the week looks really promising - lowish temps and plenty of wind.
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hopefully it will be good tomorrow :fingerscrossed:
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It was pretty damp on Wednesday just gone, with seepage on the RA undercut pinch + last pocket. The ledge on Louey as well as 2nd LH sidepull were also in need of much maintenance.
Hoping someone has been since and can tell me it will be primo for tomorrow or Sunday? Keen on a trip even if it means jumping on that early morning train and another Asda breakfast in Llandudno :-\
Ah yes... so, any updates would be greatly appreciated!
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Was in pretty good nick today, had minor dampness on 2nd LH sidepull on LF and a little on the edges of pockets but a big improvement on Wednesday. Should be ok for tomorrow I reckon.
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Any one got an update, thinking of heading over tommorow.
Cheers
chris
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Heard fo doylo looks like it be ok :thumbsup:
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Awsome,
Thanks for that
Looks like i will be heading down then.
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Anyone get down this week then?
How's it looking?
What chance of a sesh tomorrow?
ta,
Rob
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was good wed, dry again today so 2morrow looking good
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sweet. coming up tonight doylo, will be out with the cypriot on sunday and monday. you about or are you still working at the prison?
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I'm about, mite go mwyn 2moz, dunno bout sunday and monday yet, we'll crush together
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how is she today???
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Was there Sunday and pretty much everything was affected by seepage in one way or another apart from the start of LWT into RA jugs and in hell etc even the end moves of LWT were soaked :thumbsdown:
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better yesterday
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Avoid Pantymwyn at present. Saturated from meltwater.
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Anyone been since tuesday
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holding out against the weather quite well, bloody cold today though
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Can anyone give a heads up for Saturday? i.e. Did it rain on Wednesday or Thursday much? Keen to head down and make the most of the cold weather.
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I'm going down today so I will post the conditions on here later!
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Not too bad today but a bit of wetness in the usual places. The first slot and pinch on RA were pretty soaking as was the side pull on LF. Everything else was climbable and the conditions were mint!
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Minty.
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You should have come the pass yesterday Jamie... cold, sunny and with a light breeze. It's one of the few days I have not regretted missing out on cave action!
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Good conditions today with only a couple of places affected by seepage, the shot hole on trigger cut and the hold on the greenheart connection that's only dry once a year or something.
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Was anyone down today need a heads up for tomorrow after this deluge :please:
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Hoping to get back on Tuesday afternoon/evening with some lamps and praying for good news! Hopefully there is a mighty strong breeze (sans rain) tomorrow into the cave.
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Driving along the A55 yesterday afternoon we could barely see the Ormes through the 'black sheets of rain', yet upon arrival we found a completely dry cave. Even the pinch block on Left Wall High was dry - although by nightfall it was just reached by a trickle of seepage.
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The seepage has really kicked in, sidepull on Loui wet, pinch and drilled pocket on RA affected as was the foothold for the move to the flake, cavelife etc was in good nick as was trigger cut but all the beavers were affected. Always a session to be had down the bottom though.
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I'm thinking about coming up on Saturday, either to spend some time under Jerry's Roof or hide out in the cave. Would really appreciate a conditions update on both, if possible. It's a 4 hour drive to get up north, which I prefer to avoid if conditions are bad! Cheers.
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Was there on Wednesday and it was in pretty good nick, depends what you want to get on really as parts of the cave are pretty much guaranteed to be dry!
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Just heard from Ian who said the Caves wet from a temperature inversion not from seepage so should be OK It's drying where the winds getting to it, I've turned up in the morning and it's been like this and by the afternoon It's been boners!. The forecast is for no rain till tomorrow.
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I was there today and it was in the worst condition i have ever seen it. Not a single problem in condition, it may well wind dry in parts but the seepage was pretty bad.
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I was there today and it was in the worst condition i have ever seen it. Not a single problem in condition, it may well wind dry in parts but the seepage was pretty bad.
Yes from condensation due to a temperature inversion not seepage.
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um ok whatever you say. To me it looked alot like seepage all over the lou f side pull, the RA footholds, coming out of the starting holds of TC and CT, but what do i know? nothing obviously. hope it dried out.
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It was still quite damp today almost but not quite sticky damp! There's no wind about but we managed to dry enough rock to have a session on cave life and RA as for the side pull on Loui that's often wet and usually the last hold to dry from seepage.
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Strange times in the cave at the moment, got there this morning to find it covered yet again in condensation which dried enough for session only to see it start to wet out again at the end of the day!! Seem to remember last November being similar. I get the impression if you got there first thing it could be soaked but it's pretty dry by about 1ish. :shrug:
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Mint and with the added bonus of seeing Leah Crane coming close to doing RA in a session!! :thumbsup:
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any idea how the pass is currently? jerry's roof etc?
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Has been a bit damp and warm in the mountains, but the temperatures are due to plummet, so it should come good in the next few days.
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fingers crossed for the weekend...
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Might be worth you keeping up to date with these guys http://www.para-excellence.co.uk/weather.html (http://www.para-excellence.co.uk/weather.html)
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fingers crossed for the weekend...
give her a kiss from me
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Tongues or just normal? :kiss1:
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today was the best its been in a few weeks :) most of the seepage spots and drips are now very diminished. conditions on dry stuff were good and pockets etc only felt a bit of damp.
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How is the cave anyone been this weekend?
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Hi dave this is dave apparently its bone, you should go tomorrow. :goodidea:
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very good today - driest its been in ages. pockets dry and only a few bits of lingering seepage.
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how's the cave looking?
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A bit of seepage today! Pinch on RA and shared drilled pocket of Loui side pull on Loui wet etc.............
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rock atrocity was dryable, lou was not.
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Were you down with Ted?
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Yeah man, must have just missed you! We were on the late shift. Pretty decent nick on them Cave life slopers!
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Ted and Saltbeast, what a team.
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Anyone been today? any conditions forecast for saturday morning?
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Pritchard is in the cave now
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and you're supposed to be here now jim. not in manc.
densenold
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somehow foley has told you and dense I'm coming over, the reality is that he blew me off and now we're getting divorced again
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Cave Life was the only thing dry today apart from Left Wall Traverse. The last bit of the traverse was a bit soggy but easily dryable. Pill box dry.
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i would genuinely love to go to the box right now.i d love it.
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Yeah its all training for the box at the end of the day! :lol:
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How dry today, know it was ming yesterday, anyone got an up date?
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Still really wet in the cave dripping in all places! yep shes wet.. pill box was ok tho
peace.
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Just had a text of a mate who's at the cave saying it's dire! :(
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Just had a text of a mate who's at the cave saying it's dire! :(
Saturday was my first time climbing in over 6 weeks: I drove over and it was gopping. I then went to the Indy Wall and that was shut. Should have just stayed at the Mill. ::)
Far too warm at the moment for limestone.
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Looked minty today. ;D
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Got some work in Llandudno next week, whats the condition like at mo....?
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good but bring yer willy warmer (a sweet wrapper should do in your case adam)
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good but bring yer willy warmer (a sweet wrapper should do in your case adam)
yeah, an extra large bounty wrapper might do....
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anyone been today? ideas in what state it is in? Cheers
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not bad today
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Not bad eh you perve? ;)
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shut it
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No, honestly, I can't wait to see The Power and The Glory: Barely Legal.
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Everything was dry in the cave yesterday afternoon (and Caff did his first 8a: The Highlife). Amazing considering the floods we had the day before and the temperature rise from the weekend.
And now there is snow on the tops; one extreme to another.
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word, what's the dealio for the weekend - much rain since Panto's report from the other day? I assume it's a seeping mess now :(
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Just spoke to Hock (who has just arrived at Cave) - he said it was all in, apart from Lou Ferrino.
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Cheers!
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Great Caff! 3rd ascent to my knowledge. I m keen for tomorrow.
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(and Caff did his first 8a: The Highlife)
Another contender for all the 8's? Whats his ice climbing like?
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What constitutes all the 8's nowadays?
I don't know anything about ice/snow/mixed/dry-tooling/mountain grades so a brief explanation would be appreciated.
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What constitutes all the 8's nowadays?
I don't know anything about ice/snow/mixed/dry-tooling/mountain grades so a brief explanation would be appreciated.
Me either! :-[ I've never held an ice axe in anger....
Anyone care to add to
Fr8a
Fnt8a
E8
8000M Peak
M8
I am sure Leo must have done all those? We have had this discussion before but no one knew if he had done Fnt8a.
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I'd strike 8000m off the list, isn't it more a matter of money than anything else?
And anyway it's not a grade, just a height.
Surely Leo has dont Fnt8A (not that I can name one or anything).
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I'd strike 8000m off the list, isn't it more a matter of money than anything else?
And anyway it's not a grade, just a height.
Surely Leo has dont Fnt8A (not that I can name one or anything).
Fair point. And rules all bu the very very few out.
Well you WOULD think Leo has, but anyone confirm? Johnny B? (Not that JohnnyB will be looking in this thread. EVER! ;)
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You could add in VIII Scottish too, not to hard to do considering fat lanky people can do it.
There's more 8000m peaks than Everest and K2 you know. They aren't all super expensive.
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I'd suggest that getting up a 8,000m peak requires a significantly greater financial input than any other 8. A family man weekend warrior could manage all the rock 8's with relative ease I imagine, and possibly the icy/snowy/mixed-y ones with a bit of application, investment and judicious use of annual leave. An 8,000m is going to take something of an altogether higher order (I speculate from a position of no knowledge, so often my debating position :))
All the above assumes that said weekend warrior is possessed of the physical/mental ability to reach these milestones.
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Sorry this is all wildly OT, I'll shut up now.
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all in, apart from Lou Ferrino.
ARSE!
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all in, apart from Lou Ferrino.
ARSE!
Cave Life from RA, 7c your bitch Jim
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all in, apart from Lou Ferrino.
ARSE!
Cave Life from RA, 7c your bitch Jim
You going tomorrow Chris? I am heading over in morning. Can give you a lift if you want, save a bit of fuel?
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Cheers but i'll prob drive myself for ultimate flexibility. Shud be there bout midday.
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Just spoke to Hock (who has just arrived at Cave) - he said it was all in, apart from Lou Ferrino.
:'(
Going to have to get spanked hard on PoH or TC then :-[
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Just spoke to Hock (who has just arrived at Cave) - he said it was all in, apart from Lou Ferrino.
Going to have to get spanked hard on TC then
Join the club....
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Ahh Crouch I thought you were supposed to be sticking with the guru's plan!? Wise man, give her a kiss from me and fit your micro into Crucial Times' willing mono.
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I figure I can deadhang from RA pockets (with front 2 then back 2) with Hoobstack tied to my waist to recreate the sandbag resistance factor... then attempt to do laps of the first 4 moves on TC as my board problems :-\
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Was pretty mint today. Specially before 2. Lou Ferrino is kind of wet, but didn't stop the boys today. Everything else spot on.
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There was some hellish wind and rain coming in late on, so not sure what it may do to the cave by tomorrow. Hoping to get down Tuesday, so if anyone has any updates later tomorrow and/or Monday, that'd be fantastic cheers :kiss1:
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not that i would know but was informed by my left hand that the 1st left hold that was damp is now wet through, as was the big left crimp and the final left pocket
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anyone been to the cave in the last day or 2?
any idea if its will be fuct tomorrow?
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anyone been to the cave in the last day or 2?
any idea if its will be fuct tomorrow?
I was thinking of going tomorrow, so would be keen to know also....
(I will have a decent ladder if people are after working crux's)
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Nice and dry today so I hear.
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good news, mite pop in tomorrow
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good news, mite pop in tomorrow
Me too. Will have ladder as well if your after trying individual moves.
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a ladder and some performance enhancing drugs i hope?
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a ladder and some performance enhancing drugs i hope?
Will Viagra do? That's performance enhancing.....
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Was going to head to the Peak tomorrow but the weather looks a bit dodgy so I might head cavewards. I quite fancy checking out 36 Chambers at that recently developed crag near Tremeirchion on the way. Does anyone know what condition this is likely to be in as from the photo it looks like there is a lot of overlying vegetation?
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In my limited experience of this crag it doesn't get that wet, think some of the veg has been cut back. I'm keen to try that again too, too much stuff, too little time!
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a ladder and some performance enhancing drugs i hope?
Will Viagra do? That's performance enhancing.....
sounds gud, mite CUM in useful for later
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John, I had big designs on getting to 36 Chambers tomorrow but not sure if I have place with our posse heading elsewhere. Are you going from Liverpool at all?
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Yeah will be going from Liverpool in the morning. Will probably check that crag out see if 36 Chambers is a goer and then head to the cave. I was going to go to Porth Ysgo but there is some bad weather coming in and its a long way to go. Let me know if you want a lift.
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Will drop you a pm now mate...
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Any updates from yesterday evening (or later on today) would be greatly appreciated before deciding upon what to do tomorrow!
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atrocious today, dont go there!
Pill Box wall same
Angel Bay same
but Cave Wall was in very good nick except for a few drips and the odd damp hold. first trip there today and very glad of it i was too.
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Anyone been down today? Just wondering if its dried up a bit from yesterday or if its still in bad nick?
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The cave was in a really bad way today. Every problem had a section that was soaking wet. Luckily Pill Box wall dried up and saved the day!
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Updated condtitions report sought by fat bloke please!
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Pretty dry on saturday. Even the Left wall high slot and all of Lou Ferrino was dry, which is saying something
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If you go Jim, let me know... may be heading there wednesday
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just sent you a pm regarding going to the cave on wednesday before even reading this.
spooky
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it's fate!
probably depends on the snake pass as much as anything...
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YYFY, dry and cold Lou F, amazing... hopefully get there tomorrow evening if the roads are sound :thumbsup:
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anyone been today?
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Was bone dry Tuesday evening apart from the 2nd sidepull on Lou Ferrino. Good breeze coming in, so may be in decent nick for the next few days provided there is no rain
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Excellent today again, shame about that 2nd sidepull
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Anyone been or going today...? Keen to head over tomorrow. Clyde and Lou Ferrino specifically.....
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I went yesterday. There seemed to be a bit of seepage starting to come through but it improved as the day went on. Clyde was fine but the second side pull on Lou Ferrino was wet as per usual. I might head over myself tomorrow but its hards to say what it will be like as seepage might start to come though from the rain and snow earlier in the week.
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Very good this morning, high slot of Left wall totally dry. Sorry forgot to check that 2nd sidepull on LF but it looked pretty bone. RA completely dry.
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Very good this morning, high slot of Left wall totally dry. Sorry forgot to check that 2nd sidepull on LF but it looked pretty bone. RA completely dry.
Day off? You going tomorrow?
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Very good this morning, high slot of Left wall totally dry. Sorry forgot to check that 2nd sidepull on LF but it looked pretty bone. RA completely dry.
Day off? You going tomorrow?
Took a cheeky morning off. Am in the Peak tomorrow (snow permitting). If that is a no-go I'll be back in the cave!
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Cave is in very good condition, hence the 20+ people in there this afternoon! Fled to the box and it was totally mint with a chilly breeze. Should be sound for tomorrow if anyone was thinking of going :thumbsup:
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No man pull on the loose hold on the box till its reinforced
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Cave very good again today. 2nd sidepull on lou ferrino dry as well, bonus.
Very chuffed as I got to the move just before going up to the first drilled pocket from the back and its only my 2nd session on it
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nice jim.sounds like dense has lost this one!
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Anyone been to the cave yesterday or today? was wondering if there is much seepage coming through?
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Big temp rise so pretty damp today, although RA was do-able.
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Anyone care to hazard a guess on cave status today?
And will there be anyone there to point me at things as a newbie?
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I reckon it will be even worse as it feels warmer again today.
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Anyone been today? Or ideas what it will be like tomorrow? Cheers
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Hello, I was thinking of visiting the cave tomorrow, anyone have any info on its dryness?
Thanks, Pete Chadwick
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Steady on Pete, 4 posts in just under 6 years - you're spending way too much time on the internet.
Depending on the weather, conditions report, and how I feel in the morning I might join you in The Cave tomorrow.
Arran
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If the cave is dry tomorrow, somebody please let me know.
If lou ferrino is all dry I might just cream my pants!!!!
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Any updates?
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Mint! don't think there was a wet hold anywhere including the sidepull on Loui! :)
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Mint! don't think there was a wet hold anywhere including the sidepull on Loui! :)
Indeed it was mint!
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hope it stays that way. I'm there monday afternoon
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hope it stays that wa :please:. I'm there monday afternoon
Would have thought so.....
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Jim, are you normally signed up to the wednesday programme? Keen to reforge my cave career starting this week. Back to square one then ::)
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Wednesday is also a possibility
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Swede as. Will drop you a line before then mofo.
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Suspected conditions for tomorrow?
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It was bone dry yesterday and I think there has only been one afternoon/night of rain in Llandudno in the past week so I can't see there being much seepage coming through. However the temperture is set to rise a bit so could feel a bit damp if there isn't a stiff wind.
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Suspected conditions for tomorrow?
Fuck the conditions - we go, we crush, we beat our chests in victory.
Mine at 9:30?
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Suspected conditions for tomorrow?
Fuck the conditions - we go, we crush, we beat our chests in victory.
Mine at 9:30?
Afirmative. See you then.
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Might see you there, me and the steel fingered one are headed there early doors with a harsh short session followed by a pill box warm down :thumbsup:
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The cave was in excellent condition from 9.30am till I left around 12 or so. The Pillbox was also in decent nick with only the undercut shared by Millenium Drive & Drink Driving suffering a bit of wetness. Not sure how it will fare if the forecasted storm hits it hard tonight tho :-\
p.s. and Ted is a beast who makes Last Rites look piss and not the scary deathtrap it feels :o! He will soon crush Drink Driving if it didn't already go down after me and the Donelly beast left the box this afternoon :bow:
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makes Last Rites look piss and not the scary deathtrap it feels
Just pretend the pil box isn't there, you wouldn't think twice if it was off the ground!
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Just pretend the pil box isn't there
Better still - just pretend you're Ted.
Ted's a machine 8)
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Just pretend the pil box isn't there
Better still - just pretend you're Ted.
Ted's a machine 8)
Having seen him in action at Broughton, I can confirm this, I can only imagine the sort of damage he causes outdoors.
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hoping to get to the cave on wednesday, if anyone goes between now and then would appreciate a conditions report
ta
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cave was in excellent condition today.
Unfortunatley I was not
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Cave mint today, but cold!
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any one been today?
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cave pretty good this afternoon. some seepage but don't hink it really effected any problems, slightly damp 2nd sidepull on lou ferrino but easily dryable
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2nd sidepull on louey now quite wet, RA dry, lots dry. The clever beaver jug is now constantly wet thanks to some moron who gauged out the mud from the left of the jugs. Why?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hopefully dry or dryable by wednesday
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Put the mud back?
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I would have thought there would be plenty of young men hanging around in the cave glad of a legitimate opportunity to pack some mud in a crevice?
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so much mud, so many crevices, so little time.....
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cave was amazing today, everything totally dry. started raining as we were waiting for the AA man tho....
boo
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It was raining lightly still at around 8pm when we left the cave, the good thing is that it was blowing horizontally past the cave and not into it! Should still be in great condition today.
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Mint conditions on Thursday!
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let's hope that the cave stays dry and mint till at least tuesday
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Mint today.
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good again today
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good again today
Sendage of BH?
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no, falling off slapping the good hold on bust lip or lip service (can't rememebr which is which) 3 times :furious:
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no, falling off slapping the good hold on bust lip or lip service (can't rememebr which is which) 3 times :furious:
Yeah, bit blind that move!
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no, falling off slapping the good hold on bust lip or lip service (can't rememebr which is which) 3 times :furious:
Are you sticking your left foot upside down in the break on Lip Service (the one with the LH gaston/crimp)? This is how I did it and makes it much easier to get your RF out to the polished dink and to then get the lip and slap the higher good hold. Certainly worth a try like this anyway.
If all else fails, I have heard there is a low down LF toehook (ticked up) that makes the move to the lip easier with your RF in the break. Crush it beast!!
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no, falling off slapping the good hold on bust lip or lip service (can't rememebr which is which) 3 times :furious:
Now Jim, if you had a copy of the new guide you wouldn't be getting your Bust Lips and Lip Services mixed up would ya?!
(I almost went to the cave last night with a box of guides, but was talked into a session up the Pass instead. Just mail order it http://www.v12outdoor.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=75_76_128&products_id=2820&osCsid=1323a70b5b6713055d6a0231e507d45c (http://www.v12outdoor.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=75_76_128&products_id=2820&osCsid=1323a70b5b6713055d6a0231e507d45c), I fear we are destined to never be in the same place at the same time.)
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I did stick my Lf upside down in the big hold, 1st go missed slap, 2nd go left foot came out, 3rd go LH greased out, landed flat on my back on the pads (thank god!) bending pritch's glasses and cutting his nose in the process, really tired when you get out on that move
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Good effort Jim! keep at it, maybe try the toehook way on the warmup? Owen swears it made Lip Service much easier for him. ...and keep stackin those pads, its a long way up there to fall from horizontal!!
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Any body been recently? Is it in good nick?
Cheers
J
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its dry at the mo, perfect time to crush
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Not if you have red tips
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Excellent conditions today.
Even dobbin opened his account
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Excellent conditions today.
Even dobbin opened his account
(http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-17323975.jpg?size=572&uid={CC98638A-75E8-4DE7-9936-5B7128276EB1})
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Thinking of losing my cave cherry on Saturday afternoon. Anyone care to make a prediction for conditions?
Also if anybody fancies pointing me at things and laughing at my pathetic failure then that would be simply marvelous...
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Thinking of losing my cave cherry on Saturday afternoon.
You will need a pair of dragons for the cave Nik ;) Not those baggy verdes! I trust you have bought some now after the not bad dave demo....
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That was going to be my third question actually. I haven't yet got any Dragons, do I need to make an emergency purchase tomorrow? I do have some new Verdes (but the heel is still shit).
What size were your Dragons Adam because they seemed to be bob on to me? I seem to recall they were UK 7.5...
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What size were your Dragons Adam because they seemed to be bob on to me? I seem to recall they were UK 7.5...
They were indeed. Good luck!
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I got a pair of 9s I won't be using for a while......
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very good nick y'day eve - a few weird isolated wet patches. i only say weird because stuff that youd be expect to be damp if there was seepage wasnt
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What's the current state of play? I'm wondering specifically about the dryness of Lou Ferrino and the presence of annoying teenage twats.
Ta.
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Its not obvious from the Red-end forum whether or not they went in the end. Sounds like Liam was trying to get someone to go with LOL and noone wanted to. LOL. Especially not one chap whose dad is a dick (http://red-tips.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/670070-come-to-wales). Lol.
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Especially not one chap whose dad is a dick (http://red-tips.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/670070-come-to-wales). Lol.
i just found this photo of those guys.
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_03/kevinL1603_228x371.jpg)
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That post is brilliant.
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Was ok today. Bit of seepage i.e. mini water cascade on starting LH hold of Pit of Hell, other than that everything else was unaffected and there was a good breeze coming in at points. Should be fine for tomorrow still.
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Ah, so that was you.. My mate worked out it probably was in the car on the way back. (I was the tallest of the 3 Sheffielders). Cheers for the unending knowledge!
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Ah you would be the recognisable stamina machine of endless sending then :thumbsup:
Great effort today by all of you ticking of quite a few classics on the Orme...I felt pretty weak in general but enjoyed pulling on to nearly everyt problem to share the knowledge (at least it was a good workout!) I'll have to make sure to get one of you down there when I hit the Peak Lime to get some much needed return beta ;)
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anyone cave bound tomorrow?
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The demos were much appreciated! PM me when you're headed over and I'll see if I can return the favour. (As far as weakness goes, I'm not sure you're allowed to make the RA moves look that easy and claim weakness..)
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you'll have to forgive the saltbeef show pony on RA, its all he ever does in the cave
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Any updates on cave condition?
Strong team of punters heading there tomorrow
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Went to the cave for the first time on Sunday for an hour or two...
Great spot - will have to go again, despite not even climbing in the cave as I was beasted by the easier problems in the cave to the RH side.. :)
Have to go back soon!
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ahh.. shit infinity is such a poor venue apart from Organ Grinder and Bellpig! Hopefully you will see sense to spend more time in the proper cave next time ;)
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ahh.. shit infinity is such a poor venue apart from Organ Grinder and Bellpig! Hopefully you will see sense to spend more time in the proper cave next time ;)
Well, I enjoyed it and was my first time bouldering on limestone (aside from Wetherby!).. I was knackered after 90 mins.. worked my forearms very differently than grit. Next time I'll try some of the easier ones on the RH site of the cave..
Is Bellpig the one up the middle - reachy start then two crimps to two crimps and reach up for a shitty looking edge (my limit!) before a lunge up to the final jug?
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Organ Grinder is kinda more central of the 2 and goes from a large flake to 2 crimps - up to a good left hand dish then dyno to the top jug with right hand.
Bellpig is on the right of this and goes up from the crimps to the lip and then again with right hand to the large layaway/sidepull before going left hand out to the dishy sidepull and then over the top with right hand to the same jug as Organ Grinder.
Organ Grinder is by far the easier of the two and well worthwhile going back for if you didn't manage it! I suppose Lickety Split is ok as well and quite stiff for 7a+ from the low start at the back I thought :) Slim is probably easier really and still retains a lofty 7a+ grade thanks to being a bit morpho
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Greasy, but climbable tonight
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Anyone been to the Pillbox wall and found it in decent nick recently? Thanks
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It's rancid everywhere at the moment so wouldn't be predicting the sweetest conditions. Alas a dawn raid or cry of cool breeze from Monsieur Panton and you might be in with a sniff.
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Given today's deluge does anyone knowledgeable (or Welsh/local) know if the easier 7s in the cave will be okay tomorrow?
Thanks in advance Jon
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Anyone been to the Pillbox wall and found it in decent nick recently? Thanks
Rock was ok last weekend but temps weren't.
NOTE TO ALL- the marine drive is shut today because of rockfall so this may affect peoples weekends, don't know when its gonna be sorted
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does anyone know if it is wet in the cave after the heavy rain earlier in the week?
would be good to know cos we're gonna go down from w.yorks tomorrow.
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Was all bone a few days ago, would imagine it still is.
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Have been there Tues/Weds/Thurs and it has stayed in perfect nick all of that time. No seepage anywhere (even that big crack nextdoor in shit infinity is dry as a bone!)
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Have been there Tues/Weds/Thurs
Jesus Christ Rich. I fucking despair, I really do... ;)
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Guess where he's off tomorrow- today being his "rest day"...
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marine drive shut sunday cos of triatholon (thats why i'm going the peak ;))
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marine drive shut sunday cos of triatholon (thats why i'm going the peak ;))
will it be open on monday as usual??
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how's the place looking? reckon it'll be dry tomorrow?
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bit of wetness today, tomorrow sposed to be better. Most stuff will be do-able i'd imagine
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Oh dear you know summer is detereorating when the cave starts getting wet. Hopefully this monsoon can't go on much longer.
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Any 411 from today? Jim?
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Anyone out there know how the fair lady is? :please:
It's been over a week since the last visit and feels like an age :boohoo:
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Holger went yesterday. He said it was humid but there was not much seepage around yet.
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Cheers John.
Went today and climbed like a punter (not much change there). The cave is in good nick though - bit of seepage on start hold of Pit of Hell and the crescent sidepull on Lou F. Rest of it was pretty damn good! Bit warm though and the occasional random grease off but that may have been down to thin skin :-\
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Barely any seepage anywhere i could see yesterday, and not too greasy eaither.
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Anybody been recently? Hoping to fall off some more tomorrow
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Against all expectations was still dry in the cave today, greasy and warm and horrible though, at 7 in the evening, gah!
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Anybody been down today? Hoping to get a visit in tomorrow...
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still dry yesterday, except the crescent sidepull at the start of lou ferrino is starting to seep, NOOOOOO!!! :o
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conditions getting quite fresh now too, cold but slightly wetter times are ahead for the cave.
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Absolutely bone dry and in lovely nick last night...
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ring ring , proper cave season starts now
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Emergency post!
Any idea if the cave is good to go today or has it condensed out with the wet and warm shitstorm we are having today :shrug:
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tough one to call, theres a lot of moisture about. i reckon it'll be ok though
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It was gopping last night...
Not too much seepage just totally condensed out. Had to drive back the Pool and go the Awful :wank:
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Anyone got any UTD info?
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Was there yesterday and conditions were good. There was some seepage on the right hand side but people were still climbing some hard-looking stuff - I'm afraid I don't know what as I was can only do the punter warm-ups. :)
Left wall etc. was all dry, hope that's of some use.
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After a conditions update today if possible? I imagine there has been a lot of rain and wind like in Merseyside last night :shrug:
Looks like a band of shite blowing over the top from the SE till about 3pm, planning on getting there for 5 but hoping it isn't going to condense out like it did a couple weeks back making it unclimbable :'(
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You having a lantern session Rich? I'll have to get my mega-lamp charged up and get involved sometime! Think i'm going to head down Thurs so would be keen to know what conditions are like.
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We didn't chance it in the end as the rain and humidity looked dire! Reckon it would have been fully condensed.
Had a good footless bouldering session indoors but sadly the new woody/campus area is not quite ready yet at awcc!
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Looks like Sunday's going to be a bit of a washout elsewhere so has anyone got any wise predictions relating to probable conditions?
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Was in proper mint condition today...
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Just wondering if anyone was down today or knows what the weather was doing all day over the Orme? Hoping it will be another miraculously dry evening tomorrow as it was on Saturday :thumbsup:
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was cold windy and fresh today with some spitting rain
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Think the ormes shut on sunday for the Conwy half marathon
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Good knowledge Chris cheers.
We had a good session with the lamps this eve. Pretty superb conditions as temps dropped and no major seepage yet although it was starting to drip through the ceiling slightly in places. Could be the shitstorm from Sunday/Monday coming through now... hopefully sound by Saturday ;D
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Anybody visited in the last 24 hrs, really hoping to get a session in tomorrow. Any knowledge is good knowledge!
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Any updates gratefully recieved.
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I popped in today to assess the situation for UKB. Quite a bit of seepage coming through, clever beaver wet, lou ferrino wet, random holds here and there wet. not very good really
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Oh well rubicon it is! :'( thanks for the update!
PS: If I had any idea how to award a karma point then I would. Can karma points be cashed in for special skills: one arm pull ups, mono pinky hangs, 1-5-9 power etc ?
Ta
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http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,3943.500.html (http://ukbouldering.com/board/index.php/topic,3943.500.html) ... Pinches wall it is ;D
Does rock atrocity get wet? (And if so, is it likely to be wet tomorrow?)
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it does but was just about climbable today
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Hi,
Any ideas if cave would be dry tomorrow please?
Thankyou
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It should be climbable at worst. I am working in Bangor in the morning then heading over.
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Pretty good conditions today unless you wanted to do anything that involved RA or LF, or anything right of them. Back wall links into Left wall dry, apart from very last jugs on LWT but they are so big it doesn't matter. TC and HH ok too.
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Quite a bit of seepage around yesterday although conditions felt amazing on all the holds I wanted to use (In Heaven)! Trigger cut was climable but most other things such as RA and LF had quite a bit of wetness. Hopefully it won't get much worse by tomorrow!
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Honked it down last night!
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Honked it down last night!
FFS! :(
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I'm going in a bit to work on the dry holds on the problems that are too hard for me
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I'm going in a bit to work on the dry holds on the problems that are too hard for me
Let me know what In Hell/Pilgrim/RA are like, and also Petes new thing.
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Fuck that off Doylo, all the goat shit will be wet and sticky,come on down to Indy later and get on the circuits, I'll even make you a brew and douse you with pity, it's lovely and warm and dry here. :hug:
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Fuck that off Doylo, all the goat shit will be wet and sticky,come on down to Indy later and get on the circuits, I'll even make you a brew and douse you with pity, it's lovely and warm and dry here. :hug:
Yeah but i'm not gonna get a tick in the indy am i! I love the goat shit anyway it turns me on. Sausage was a similar deal to the other day in terms of wetness, maybe better.
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Will decide later. If i do come I'll bring a towel then ::)
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Dripping today but always a session to be had. My lats hurt!
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How do Breck Road and Shit Infinity cope after a deluge?
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Think breck road stays quite good actually, split holds out for a while too. But it has been raining a lot!
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Pretty fucked today!
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Pretty fucked today!
:wall:
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If you are saying it was fucked Doyle there must not have been two dry holds you could link together! Think i'll give it a miss tomorrow then.
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The start of left wall and the cave life ramp was dry.
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I don't think I can face another session like Saturdays going over that same section over and over! Its well frustrating, i'm ready to crush but I have to bide my time.
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yeah it might stop raining one day, you never know........... :(
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Bizzarely dry today! Usual seepage points but was expecting it to be dripping from the roof! Weird
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Excellent, Saturday is saved!
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Is it dry or you are just looking for some company in there Chris?
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...Indy will be open from 10am on Saturday..... :whistle:
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Is it dry or you are just looking for some company in there Chris?
You got me there Holger ;)
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Absolutely primo today, I can't believe there was only us 7 gullable merseysiders there and a shifty looking local who had goaded poor dobbin into coming over ;)
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Absolutely primo today, I can't believe there was only us 7 gullable merseysiders there and a shifty looking local who had goaded poor dobbin into coming over ;)
But the Dobbin and the shifty looking local ended up in the mill, was it really primo? End of RA?
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It was totally fucked and condensed out on R.A. after about 12.30! :'(
Managed some good In Life/Hell start links but then the grips on that got worse and worse and the toehook placement condensed out too that I use :boohoo:
Left wall was dryish till the end (of which all variations were wet). The holds on the arch seemed to be the only ones not quite condensing or wet! I reckon it's pretty much a write off till this rain ends :thumbsdown:
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If anyone's heading over this weds or thurs from merseyside would be cool to hear from you if there's a space going. Need to get back here.
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Its not the best time to getting keen for the cave again! Could be wrecked for a while. However, if improves by midweek I may go Thursday and i'll give you a shout.
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Thanks John. Be good to see you holmes.
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DISCLAIMER: From now on if i give a favourable conditions report just bear in mind that it might be different the following day! :) ;)
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DISCLAIMER: From now on if i give a favourable conditions report just bear in mind that it might be different the following day!
Or because you just want a little company in there...?! :whistle:
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DISCLAIMER: From now on if i give a favourable conditions report just bear in mind that it might be different the following day!
Or because you just want a little company in there...?! :whistle:
I'm more than happy to go it alone, the goat shit gives me more than enough company!
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QuoteDISCLAIMER: From now on if i give a favourable conditions report just bear in mind that it might be different the following day!
Or because you just want a little company in there...?!
I'm more than happy to go it alone, the goat shit gives me more than enough company!
You always did like playing with yourself in goat shit eh?!
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marine drive closed due to rockfall, just incase anyone thinks its worth going.
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Yeah its fucked, last time this happened it was shut for a week or two. Bad bad bad. Tis the persistent rain that will have caused it.
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:'(
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Anyone know if the drive is open again yet?
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Prob be a week or two is my guess
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Shes open but wet at the front.yum
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Shes open but wet at the front.yum
I like her when she is wet up front.
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Was fuckin baltic today
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Keen to maybe go down Tuesday if it's going to be dry over the whole In Life/Hell arch and left wall still?
Does anyone know what condition R.A. is in? Worried it will be both freezing and wet after todays rain even though it is forecast to just be fucking freezing from now till Tues afternoon :-\
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RA Wet at the end.
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Left wall, arch area and in hell/pit of hell region dry today.
Pocket at end of RA soaking. Rest of RA in good nick.
Quite a bit of seepage near outside of cave and on right hand side.
Only real problem was keeping warm as it was baltic.
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its horribly cold right now
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Still really wet up front including the end of Rock Attrocity but very dry along the back and on left wall traverse. However, at the very moment I was eyeing up the finishing crimps on The High Life a stream of water flowed out of nowhere and soaked the holds! Too cold in there at the moment as well.
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Did anyone head down today? Wondering if a visit tomorrow would be worth it? Any chance of condensing or should it just be seepage on parts to worry about :shrug:
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Good today, relatively dry and a bit warmer, t-shirt weather in fact.
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Nice one Chris, may head over Tuesday if it doesn't hammer down in between
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Seepage worse today but still climbable. Some had started to come through onto left wall.
Back area/arch/in hell was dry.
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I wasn't suprised to have the cave to myself after dark last night ::)
The small amount of seepage on left wall traverse was easily taken care of with a rag.
The 3rd slot on Rock Atrocity was swimming, but everything further in than this was holding out well against the seepage.
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Orme closed next tuesday/wednesday due to filming. Cave drying out today.
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Nooooo......
What filming?
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meaty cameras and stuff
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doylo's filming in the cave, not for the faint hearted and nothing to do with climbing
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The driest its been for two months today.
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Get in! me & pritch heading down tomorrow (hopefully)
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How was it Jim? Anyone else been?
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dry but baltic. take some warm clothes.
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bring yer willy warmers
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Anyone been today? Heading over tomorrow. What's dry and easy enough for a middle age punter?
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Do you know if the roads are OK? If I can get up early enough, and dig my car out I might come down.
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The roads are fine in Scouseland, not a drop of the white stuff for miles, come join the party.
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I reckon roads and conditions will be mint lads. Get on it! I'll be aiming to visit on Christmas Eve so if you could give us a conditions report when you get back that'd be great!
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Planned to go tomorrow but had a few bottles o'red tonight so anyone heading over tomorrow if you could give us a yay or nay that'd be splendid.Merci.
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Planned to go tomorrow but had a few bottles o'red tonight so anyone heading over tomorrow if you could give us a yay or nay that'd be splendid.Merci.
Shit man, you're going to miss my annual visit Tom.
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Conditions were most excellent today. Pete crushed Bonnie is smooth style :great:
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Nice one Andy (and Pete!). Did you get much done Andy? Will be there tomorrow, hoping for similar conditions!
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Smooth Pete did Clever Beaver, as did I (breaking my Cave virginity at last ;D). Should be mint tomorrow. Pill Box was also in great nick.
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Primo conditions today!
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Anyone been/going today and can update, Clever Beaver SS in particular.
:goodidea:
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Clever Beaver SS in particular.
:goodidea:
started seeping yesterday afternoon.
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Thanks for the update Dave. What was in condition though? ;)
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the conditions wouldnt make any difference for a beast such as yourself
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Pretty much all dry today. Clever Beaver SS seemed dry.
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It's pretty good. Clever Beaver ss is fine as me and John had a play into Sam's finish at the end at it was all bone.
I imagine Lou F 2nd left sidepull will suffer overnight and maybe the jug rail halfway, rockatrocity all bone dry. It was all just a bit numbing on the fingers again :(
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Getting a tad wetter now, prob wont be great thursday cos its sposed to rain tomorrow aswell.
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How was the stuff around Clever Beaver looking?
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Not to bad. I was climbing on sams finish but had to keep drying a foothold, i suppose it depends on how persistent the rain tomorrow is. The front can only hold out for so long.
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Driving back today the rain was really heavy so dunno if it reached Llandudno. Dave (Deary/meatball) is heading down tomorrow so he'll be able to give a better idea of how the fort held up against the rain this evening/tonight
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shit today, i didn't climb, wet
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Will it improve by tomorrow Doylo?
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Drove over from Scouseland, looked at the cave, drove back to Scouseland. All RH side wet, wetness on lw traverse, RA and LF. Lickety wet as well. Give the rain and mildness, I wouldn't expect it to dry for a few days.
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Mildness, its 2 degrees andy! Dan i wouldn't go til friday, tomorrow looking dry.
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Ok, it's above freezing, which is mild enough for any water in the ground to melt and move, hence seepage coming through. Which is why I took a 150+ mile detour to Awesome walls :wall:
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doh!
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Cheers Doylo, may head over at weekend....
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i reckon i'll be there sunday
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Wish whichever piss wizard was conspiring against us would get to fuck. Motivational urge can only last so long with this!
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Mostly dry today, some seepage but nothing too bad. Really cold though!
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who's 'dudno looking doyle?
1/2 foot of snow in the MCR. Am keen to get over tomorrow if its dry
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...but one man just wouldn't be beaten.
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We have sacked it for today as Liverpool has ran out of Grit supplies... so it is a bit of an epic to even get us all together in 1 car let alone make our way over to the promised land :(
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It's cool here Crouch, we have mountainous reserves in Wirral. You really ought to move to the paradise peninsula as a matter or priority.
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6779/newbrightonbeautycontes.jpg) (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/newbrightonbeautycontes.jpg/)
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no 4 wheel drive Johnny? no large cave nearby with loads of quality hard problems to go at?
never mind
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Its honking it down with snow but not sticking yet in the dudno
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cave tomorrow then?
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no 4 wheel drive Johnny? no large cave nearby with loads of quality hard problems to go at?
never mind
No, I'm at work. Had I free time, my 2-wheel drive is more than adequate for getting about in this weather and behaving appropriately - ie winter climbing or snowboarding. If I wanted to hom about in some tops-off, match-to-finish, eliminate bullshit cave scene 'nearby' I'd go to The Works.
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no 4 wheel drive Johnny? no large cave nearby with loads of quality hard problems to go at?
never mind
No, I'm at work. Had I free time, my 2-wheel drive is more than adequate for getting about in this weather and behaving appropriately - ie winter climbing or snowboarding. If I wanted to hom about in some tops-off, match-to-finish, eliminate bullshit cave scene 'nearby' I'd go to The Works.
wouldn't wanna get spanked more like......
Theres only one place to climb today and you still rip into it, are you a climber?
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Yes, and if I wasn't here at work I'd be heading up Ysgolion Duon. Are you a climber?
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I'm a boulderer
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There's nowhere else to climb today in Wales but a dry cave with much satisfying technical movement. What is so wrong with this? Why come on this thread ripping into it, i wouldn't go on the Eastern Edges thread and jibe the pebbly rough stuff! We all know you hate limestone, you don't need to keep reminding us
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There's nowhere else to climb today in Wales
You need to change either your outlook or your terminology. Some of the best climbing condition for years this week, all over snowdonia right on your doorstep. And you want to go to that shitty cave.
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This is a rock climbing website, i climb rocks not ice
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This is a rock climbing website, i climb rocks not ice
Perfect timing for this video :P
Ice bouldering no crampons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEXwIdH7dw8#)
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Whilst it's possible to climb extensions and linkups in the cave, I have to say it never feels nor in actuality is eliminate in any sense of the word. In fact, as far from being a seasoned grit campaigner as is possible, does the face of business in the epicenter of gritstone bouldering not have a fair smattering of linkups?
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dont worry doylo, less polish. yes everybody the cave is shit don't go if your a real climber. Leave it to the boulderers, after all to be a great boulderer is to be a great climber. you still gonna like brad pitt when youve buffed it to a shine jonny. Yep it was mint yesterday couldnt find anyone to boulder with as they were busy doing pull ups on sticks. It only finishes mathing cos most of us aint good enough to climb the real lines, sad but true, think of it as work in progres. The best hard problems in the uk are in there and a lot of them aint even been done, link lou ferrino into bonnie, eliminate shit like a climbing wall get a grip.
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Maybe in 2015 once west side story, deliverance and brad pit are all 8a cos of jonnys polish he might spread his horizons a bit
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What like into other forms of climbing? I think you guys going bouldering in this weather are the ones who want to reconsider your horizons.
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sorry mr allrounder
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What like into other forms of climbing? I think you guys going bouldering in this weather are the ones who want to reconsider your horizons.
I can't see any horizons, there's too much snow coming down :P
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What like into other forms of climbing? I think you guys going bouldering in this weather are the ones who want to reconsider your horizons.
Your just as specific as the next man, or will we be seeing you at Malham/kilsney/LPT this spring when they're in condition?
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I did quite a bit of sport climbing in 2009, as well as bouldering, trad, ice, mixed, alpine rock. What's your point?
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What like into other forms of climbing? I think you guys going bouldering in this weather are the ones who want to reconsider your horizons.
Your just as specific as the next man, or will we be seeing you at Malham/kilsney/LPT this spring when they're in condition?
Too true Doylo.
The fact that you can go out on any given day and lap any number of your show pony problems at the Plantation or Burbage West but yet somehow only managed to RP to the dizzy heights of F7c this year on peak limestone points to someone who is more 'specific' than most who frequent the Cave.
Maybe being stuck in work on such an amazing day for 'climbing' is making you grumpy.
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7c+, in two visits. I daresay this might suggest if I applied myself to this part of the climbing game I might get a bigger number, wow. However I'd rather apply myself across the other disciplines which I find so much more fulfilling.
Plus I refer you back to my previous post. Those cave addicts performing at a higher level across the mentioned disciplines are welcome to slate me for having most of the world class problems five minutes from my house wired.
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I did quite a bit of sport climbing in 2009, as well as bouldering, trad, ice, mixed, alpine rock. What's your point?
I just wondered why when in a phase of sport climbing do you not visit the best cliffs we have to offer (they are world class)? Surely this is no different to me not going ice climbing today.
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7c+, in two visits. I daresay this might suggest if I applied myself to this part of the climbing game I might get a bigger number, wow. However I'd rather apply myself across the other disciplines which I find so much more fulfilling.
Hypocrisy? Surely that is exactly why people are interested in going to the Cave? They find it personally fulfilling, in a similar way to which you find lapping WSS. Stop taking this purist view that every one should be out experiencing the disciplines of the sport YOU find fulfilling.......
This is one big reason I climb, its personal. It means different things to different people. You make your decisions, you shouldnt feel you have to spend your life explaining and justifying them to others. Its usually the people who spend their time criticising others who need to broaded their horizons, and maybe find a focus.
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Jb the cave IS the best climbing there is period. i am considering ski touring across the snake tomorrow in order to get a sesh in on thursday.
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OK people. I'm sat in the study at Gambier Terrace overlooking Clwyd out to the Orme. Here's your conditions cam from this very moment....
Snow (http://vimeo.com/8553038)
Getting heavier and heavier.
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Has Jennerator upgraded from Aigburth to Gambia now then?! Looks like a fine location.
Might have to come over and see if there are any last great lines to go in the Cathedral grounds ;D
back on topic
The cave is an amazing place to climb in... which helps build technique, strength, fitness and features many great moves you are unlikely to find elsewhere in the UK. There is nothing eliminate about the main lines as everything goes through a line of least resistance.
It might not be font but I prefer climbing in the cave to the peak :guilty: (apart from Rotherham and Churnet!)
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what have I started? ???
I love the cave, as well as I love bouldering on grit / sandstone etc... however you will not get strong climbing on the grit. As the other thread demonstrates, people like being strong
I ain't about to go and purchase £££££ worth of ice climbing gear that I can't afford nor have space to store so I can go and enjoy the best winter conditions ever. I'm going to try for the cave tomorrow. Hopefully get to broughton this evening as well
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Tried to get to Cave today but snow came in and forced a sharp retreat to Liverpool. Snow was sticking on coast road (A55). Still snowing now. I would be wary about heading over...
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what have I started? ???
I love the cave, as well as I love bouldering on grit / sandstone etc... however you will not get strong climbing on the grit. As the other thread demonstrates, people like being strong
Climbing to get strong rather than the other way round. :-\ I admire your candour Jim.
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why do you think I weigh so much?
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You like the taste of pies and beer? :shrug:
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Well that miserable sod seems to have buggered off so back on topic. Was chilly and a bit wet damp up front today but we had a good session down at the back.
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excellent, hope the 55 is passable tomorrow and the cave stays dryish
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if it doesn't snow again you'll be fine
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after a pitiful display at the wall I doubt I can even muster the psych to climb again this week.
being a dad again is knackering
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:shrug: Fuckin'ell lads, just read through that last page and it was fuckin handbags at dawn, who gives a shit if J.B hates the cave and some people only boulder and some like doing pull ups on sticks when it's wintery, fuckin peak grit, pointless sport climbin blah de fuckin blah, stop gettin all uptight and bitchy and just get on with your own shit and be happy for those being happy doing their shit, who really gives a shit? Jeeeeesus. Cheesy and slightly late rant over
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Winding these guys up is too easy. ;D
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He started it ;)
Would of been good today but i didn't get my brain transplant in time
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Can you get out along the drive without 4WD?
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gonna head out 2moro, if ur up early enough chris let us know the conditions please :)
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if ur up early enough chris let us know the conditions please :)
Yeah Chris, if you could get up at dawn every day and head down the cave to check conditions I'm sure it would be appreciated. ;)
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I ain't about to go and purchase £££££ worth of ice climbing gear that I can't afford nor have space to store so I can go and enjoy the best winter conditions ever.
Maybe you should sell one of your seven axes?
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:lol:
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theres no snow here
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How does she fare!
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Pretty dry today. Some seepage on outside right section but not much. Generally good nick.
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Same again tonight but properly baltic. So difficult trying to maintain warmth during rest periods, bring on the spring!
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can't wait for spring sick of this winter bollocks
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Yeah, it's been four weeks of trying to climb in sub zero temperatures and acheiving fuck all...
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Yeah, it's been four weeks of trying to climb in sub zero temperatures and achieving fuck all...
You need to MTFU. ;)
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I know a good shop that sells base layers, gloves and handwarmers Si! They just moved in to Awesome Walls Liverpool only recently and have this unkempt neanderthal working there who I hear is a bit of a beast... Dave or something? :whistle:
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Glad to hear someone else on here thinks DAVE DEARY is a FUCKIN monster!
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Yeah, Dave's well better than that ginger kid. Hopefully the ginger mist will learn something from Strong Dave (the man formally known as Kenny Dave).
But I wouldn't buy anything from that shop. I bought a pair of rock shoes from there and I haven't got any better at climbing yet. Good stock of chalkbags though. ;)
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If you want any tips on how to campus slabs in Dragons, drop in and I'll give you a masterclass Benedict ;)
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If you want any tips on how to campus slabs in Dragons, drop in and I'll give you a masterclass Benedict ;)
Crouch, why on earth are you campusing in a pair of Dragons when you own a pair of Boreal's? No wonder your not getting stronger!
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Was a boiling 4/5 degrees on the coast today. I was sweating my tits off walking round town. Spring is on its way!!!!
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Argeed, I was there today and it was positively tropical. I even took the thermals off... much to the amusement of some passing walkers! All dry except the front right and a few left wall holds.
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Get the fuck in! May be able to climb something without white numb fingers on Sunday if it hasn't all seeped through :please:
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Had condensed out today and a lot of stuff was damp. Lot of people there though and so with a lot of chalking and drying most things were climbable.
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pretty good in there today. Very little seepage.
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:bounce:
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Any knowledge from last day or so? Weekend looking good weather wise.
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was fine yesterday. only small amounts of seepage. it was raining as we left though
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any tales of mint conditions in llandudno?
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any tales of mint conditions in llandudno?
We are heading down tonight, Doyle said wasn't too bad. But only asked about RA extentions.
See you there maybe. Text me in the morning if you need a conditions report, should be there pretty early.
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very tempted to join you. what time you getting down there adam?
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very tempted to join you. what time you getting down there adam?
Leaving tonight, so will be there early doors.
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Gopdensation today (a new word i've invented)
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probably going to check the churnet instead then. want to be back early for the ale festival
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Not good today. Lots of condensation. Managed to climb and get RA dried out and Pit of Hell start but most other stuff was in bad nick.
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Not great today either. Climbable, but only just. Front of cave stuff all wet. Left wall just about doable. RA pinch sopping. Most other stuff below that dryish, just not good condtion.
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Still Gop??
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bit of wet but not gopdensation, expect more later in the week when temps go up again, proper yo yo at the mo!
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anyone been today? thinking of heading down tomorow....
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Ditto. Apparently set to warm up tomorrow, so may be condensing again.
Dave from the scouseland has gone today. Hopefully he will post something about conditions, but, if its much warmer it may be quite different. Cold out there today.
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Not too bad today. Left wall pretty dry. RA and pit of hell dry apart from pinch at end but that was dryable. Front of cave wet but drier than on Saturday.
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As its been minging in there recently there has been lots of bog roll ect stuffed in cracks and stuff to dry holds, fair enough, but i picked up a carrier bag full of it the other day please remember to take it away or point out to other users that they should.
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As its been minging in there recently there has been lots of bog roll ect stuffed in cracks and stuff to dry holds, fair enough, but i picked up a carrier bag full of it the other day please remember to take it away or point out to other users that they should.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2dhrw5l.jpg)
Your local cave binman
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more gopdensation today
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Pretty good today, not really any condensation, some seepage but got better as the day went on. If it's a nice day tomorrow it'll probably be in quite good nic.
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Obviously that didn't actually happen.
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So cave fans/locals/those who know about the fickle nature of these things... what do you think the chances are of good conditions this weekend, given a poor forecast tomorrow morning then improving? Is pill box likely to be ok?
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Absolutely goptastic last night. Majority of the cave running with surface water, only the very back was dry.
First half of Rock Attrocity, first half of left wall (up to where left wall high goes high) and the arch of Pilgrimage were the only dry things.
Wasted trip really. Watched the car thermometer gradually rise as i got nearer to Llandudno and kinda knew to expect condensation, but surface water was unexpeceted.
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Absolutely goptastic last night. Majority of the cave running with surface water, only the very back was dry.
its not looking good for the weekend then?
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shite right now
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Just got an update of Robins who is there now, approximately 60% dry. No gopdensation, better at the back of the cave. I'm still not tempted.
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Given a good forecast over the next two days, will it be better on Sunday?
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Bound to be, get yourselves over.
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:agree: So why don't you join in the fun :goodidea:
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How was it at the weekend? Anyone heading over tomorrow night?
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Just popped in for a nosey. Dry and cold
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Pretty much perfect yeserday
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Anyone been over the weekend? Believe the weather was pretty grim there yesterday...
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Was largely good Sunday even though it was misty/raining. Bits of dampness around, especially on the stuff at the front-right but most stuff was fine.
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Might be going tomorrow - any updates? have already texted Doyle who said : "has been very dry, so unless the temps go up you should be ok".
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Pretty good today. Most stuff dry. Small amounts of seepage.
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I don't know what has caused me so much pain from yesterday's session but I can hardly lift my arms, my shoulders ache and I can barely walk with dodgy knee/hamstring pains :lol:
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Pretty good again yesterday. All useful bits dry, the only thing I spotted which wasnt was teh first pinch on louie, but thats almost never dry. Meant to post a picture of it so you could see for yourself, but was so excited to be actually climbing that I didnt bother.
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Anyone been today?
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More seepage today but not too bad. Most things dry. Pinch at end of RA wet and Lou F. starting to get damp.
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More seepage today but not too bad. Most things dry. Pinch at end of RA wet and Lou F. starting to get damp.
Wondering if the pinch is going to get worse or better? Most of the stuff i want to do goes though that and i need all the help i can get!
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Llandudno cam shows blue sky and sunshine today. So may dry up? To be honest the pinch was totally dryable yesterday.
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Llandudno cam shows blue sky and sunshine today. So may dry up? To be honest the pinch was totally dryable yesterday.
Cool, good enough for me.
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im planning on meeting two mates there on monday.will have a stove and kettle if anyone wants to bring a cup with them :)
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Starting to seep through a bit this afternoon, but most stuff do-able
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Must have missed you today Adam. Was in there this morning for a good while but went up to Normans wisdom. Looked in on way back and thought there was a gig on or something in there. Peered in but never saw you. Possibly going blind anyway I think.
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Must have missed you today Adam. Was in there this morning for a good while but went up to Normans wisdom. Looked in on way back and thought there was a gig on or something in there. Peered in but never saw you. Possibly going blind anyway I think.
We only went for an hour, was down at Angel Bay.
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T-shirt weather today and really sunny.few bits of seepage,sidepulls near top pocket on rock attrocity and the big polished flatty below the rh pocket near top of lou ferrino.other than that it's pretty much good.
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you can't beat a bit of t-shirt weather, hopefully she'll be nice this weekend
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anyone been today? heading down tomorrow, weather doesn't look too good though :S
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I was thinking about going this afternoon, but to be honest - the signs are not good. Although the sun is out over there :
(http://icons.wunderground.com/webcamramdisk/g/a/GarethTS/1/current.jpg?1267002245)
the humidity is high, and the temp was above dew point when i looked before (its not now). I have tried to coerce Jim into going (is already in manchester) to check it out, but I wouldnt hold my breath if I were you.
I texted Doyle (who is away) and in his considered professional opinion he said probably avoid.... if temps have gone up that is. Already 9degrees and only 0900... hmm.
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cheers mate, shame eh as its so sunny. we'll probably have a blast down anyway and check out that angel bay place if its shit
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I'd try the Pill Box (down the road) and Norman Wisdom (up the hill just after you walk past Clutch) as they might catch a breeze and be in good nick if the cave is condensed out.
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mint today, dry and nice and sunny! lou ferrino still damp and the pinch the RA but everything else was dandy. pill box was a bit soapy.
so nice we even went for a celebratory sea front ice cream...
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shame its forecast rain thursday and friday.was hoping to get back down again net monday but if its likely to seep worse by then i wont bother as im after rock attrocity and lou ferrino
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Good conditions today. Some seepage in the usual spots but generally pretty decent.
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forecast good weather all next week.
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For those of us not down with the local knowledge, does that mean Lou Ferrino was wet/dry/dryable?
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Didn't look at Lou Ferrino but I presume it was climable cos one of the lads I was with today sent Rock Atrocity, and the easier stuff on the left and right hand walls that I was trying was all either dry or dryable.
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Lou Ferrino was a bit wet in places but I guess with a few towels/rags you could dry the holds up. Low left side pull was seeping, big flat polished edge was wet and right hand pocket in roof was also damp.
Most other things in cave were in good nick though.
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Cheers guys
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That's par for the course seepage on lou ferrino and it's dryable and
climbable.
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Hoping to go tonight, but won't get there until later - much later. Anyone fancy a lantern session?
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There'll probably be a few scousers there around 5.30ish if Si, Paul and Andy go from the Wirral, maybe Owen too but I'm marooned in the wall till next week :thumbsdown:
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Might still try then. was thinking' theres a hslfords in `dudno so i could pop in first....
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very dry today
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we all know you don't like using lube :shag:
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no point making things easy
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Go in dry, go in hard - thats what doyle has tattooed on his shoulder blades.
Well I went, but I was shit. Still love the cave.
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Good conditions today. Very little seepage.
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was at the cave yesterday-bone dry pretty
much-slight damp part of a hold at start of right wall traverse,one of start holds of pillar start has a seepage line above it,lou ferrino totally dry!
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Good nick today. Mostly dry.
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Again in very good condition. Hardly any seepage.
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Fuckin hell Dave two days in a row! Highlife?
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Hey Chris
Think I have Cave Fever!
Cave was great but I sucked and fell off end of High Life twice. Doh! Maybe next time...
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bone dry today but really greasy/soapy but better when it turned colder late afternoon
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still dry down there? thinking of heading tomorrow...
cheers
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It was near perfect on Tuesday evening and I don't think there has been any heavy rain since - although I've been indoors without any windows since 12pm today so can't vouch for today! :thumbsdown:
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Completely bone dry now.
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Planning on going Wednesday, if anyone is there tomorrow (Tuesday) a conditions update would be appreciated
:great:
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Expect much dryness
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Anyone going be aware there is a human shit at the front of the cave
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you could of held it in or done it on your boyfriends chest when you got home!
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come on doylo you could have taken one for the team and moved it?
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I really wanted to move it but i had nothing to move it with, it was knocking me sick to be honest! Bogroll n all! Jim you won't need your butties on wednesday
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I heard it was Johnny Brown making good on his name with a dirty protest on his way home from Black Ladders.
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aside from the shit is the cave in otherwise good nick, am thinking of heading down for a few days as it wet as anything here in sheff :(
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I heard it was Johnny Brown making good on his name with a dirty protest on his way home from Black Ladders.
nah he wouldn't shit on it if it was on fire
aside from the shit is the cave in otherwise good nick, am thinking of heading down for a few days as it wet as anything here in sheff :(
All dry
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aside from the shit is the cave in otherwise good nick, am thinking of heading down for a few days as it wet as anything here in sheff :(
All dry
awesome, here's too it staying dry throughout the rain that's forecast!!
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Bone dry and turd free!
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Bone dry and turd free!
...well, I was there...
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pretty good today,cold in the night and warm during the day so a little bit tacky(good imho).few small bits of seepage due to the rain over the last few days but nowt major
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Was perfect down there yesterday apart from a couple of dripping bits (don't think they were on any routes)
When we left the cave around 6ish someone had left a pair of la sportivas, which we put down at the very back of the cave to keep dry. Not sure whose they were, they'd been at the front of the cave since the start of the day.
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was there today,the seepage has started now and only likely to get worse when it hammers it down for the rest of the week :thumbsdown:
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yes it has started but no holds really effected yet (when we left) but all the holds suddenly felt very spoogy towards the end of the day
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was dogshit this morning but i went back at about 4 and it was good
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hope it holds out for tomorrow
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what are the chances of that? thinking of going middayish/early afternoon... worth the hour and half trip?
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find out in the morning
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thats my problem,its 2h45 for me to get there so this thread is a real godsend,karma to you all
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it looks like there has been a lot of rain there overnight.
forecast looks ok for today but the main worry is the high humidity.
also low pressure, at very best I think it will be greasy/spoogy, at worst - gopping. propably somewhere in the middle
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I've sent my PA to check conditions, should know soon
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Apparently its pretty nasty in there
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Thanks Doyle
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I predict tomorrow will be ok, bit better in there now, better forecast for tomorrow too.
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will there be any human shits?
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i'll see what i can do
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get in, looking forward to a crush & scat fest!!!
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anyone been today, webcam's look pretty nice. reckon it'll be good tomorrow?
no rock for 3 weeks :(
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was ok today
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a few human shits
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seepage coming through, could be worse tomorrow
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As soon as I have seepage I know it's time to have a shit. I wouldn't wait until tomorrow
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More seepage today but not too bad. Lots climbable.
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no shits today though, ok apart from that
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dylan ate all the shit yesterday... greedy dylan. thats why he feels sick today
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very selfish
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I spat some in Jim's mouth. This is why he feels ill too
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nevermind the spitting it was all the kissing :kiss1:
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The tollguy said you dirty bastards aren't allowed in the Cave anymore!
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he was filming
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did anybody go today? thinking o heading over tomorrow so wondering if its worth the drive
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yes, most things dry.
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Pretty good nick on the whole. Bit of moisture on Louey and Broken Heart but dryable. Undercut on R.A. a bit damp but also dried up well. Probably dried out even more over yesterday and last night as there was a good breeze :)
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Pretty dry today. Very little seepage.
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Still in primo condition.
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damn, if only my shoulder wasn't fucked. i'd be there tomorrow.
if only i lived closer, i fucking love the place.
i'm going to do lou ferrino naked!
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Looked in yesterday and it is still good. All bone dry.
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The cave was in primo condition... shame about my general condition :spank:
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got my new marine drive pass through last week as well, shame I can't barely do a pull up.
Need to get better quick
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Still good in the cave.
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You're always good in the cave Dave!
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I wish!
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I think you must have spent too long near Farnell at those dodgy limestone cliffs up North and his hustling ways are starting to rub off :whistle:
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I think you must have spent too long near Farnell at those dodgy limestone cliffs up North and his hustling ways are starting to rub off :whistle:
That'll be the dodgy limestone cliffs you're to scared to go near for fear of humiliation on the warm-ups :P
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After reading 9 out of 10 climbers I really should go give it a try but I'll just work some P.E. Circuits on a board instead as I hate the idea of freezing to death on a relay station then... getting spanked on continuous foot shuffling style moves :guilty:
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Come along and laugh at me Rich as I shake and sweat on the warm ups. You might like it!
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Shit the bed I miss this place. Hope I can squeeze a day out soon, there's only so many fucking deadhangs on man can do. I didn't get into deadhanging, I got into climbing. Why I'm talking to myself I don't know.
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Why I'm talking to myself I don't know.
Oh, I know the answer to that one...
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I hate the idea of freezing to death on a relay station then... getting spanked on continuous foot shuffling style moves :guilty:
What's a relay station doing on a route? If you don't want to foot shuffle, pack in the line dancing we all know you love ;D
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Shockingly good conditions this evening considering how warm it is, nearly retro'd Lou and that's the hardest i've ever done.
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Why I'm talking to myself I don't know.
Oh, I know the answer to that one...
I find it's the only way to get a decent conversation these days.
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Very dry indeed! I predict a busy day tomorrow with the gash weather forecasts n' all.
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Not a wet hold in the house today... good temps too!
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anyone been down there in the last few day's?was wondering if the rain in has dripped through onto lou ferrino yet?
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It was condensing in there on Wednesday night mate, although with a bit of love all holds were dryable. Certainly no real seepage to worry about then, and its been more like sea mist rolling rather that persistent rain. I would certainly go if i had a full day pass!
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After Doyle's recent revelations (http://doylosblog.blogspot.com/) I was wondering if there were any pattern to the turd leavage going in the Cave recently?
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I am very suspicious now someones actually shat one down on the blue pad. Surely if you were a desperate tourist you'd go round the corner out of view :-\
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My thoughts exactly...
I know quite a few "traditional" climbers who pour scorn on the Cave at every opportunity but am pretty sure they wouldn't stoop to these levels!
Perhaps we should use Crouchie's "Floodlight The Cave" fund to buy some CCTV cameras?
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and some shotguns to shoot the perpetrators
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Its not all bad though, at least the box is getting a respite from tourist shit! Ha ha
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I want to know what it is about the Orme that means these people cannot hold it in, or get to Asda - i mean, for gods sake - asda toilets have seats and everything.
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you love ASDA
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A tad warm last night but not too bad overall...
The gentle ambience of Split Infinity was preserved by the removal of a dead fox :-\
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A tad warm last night but not too bad overall...
A sign of things to come i'm afraid, evening cave sessions are now the way forward....
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Anyone know what it'll be like tomorrow afternoon? Cheers.
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good today
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nobody going to invite me? :'(
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Don't invite him in, It'll render you powerless.
(http://www.bastaclicar.com.br/cinema/images/imagens/2447/garotos-perdidos04.jpg)
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thought you were baking bread
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or horribly injured?
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both but its never stopped me before
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aw poor jim, your uncle doylo will climb with you!
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heading tomorrow i think... dry? cheers!
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Was still all dry last night. Expected it to be a bit condensed but nothing of the sort. Pleasant ;D
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How's the cave doing with all this warm and damp weather? Anyone been lately?
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Looked OK yesterday, saw some fellows pulling about in there. I forsaked her to go downstairs though. Generally greasy time of year though ain't it.
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Always better to be climbing with a rope than bouldering at this time of year mate. Glad you're finally choosing the true path...
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Variety is the spice of life etc. What do you want to do in there cap'n?
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Variety is the spice of life etc. What do you want to do in there cap'n?
Stay out of the rain. ;)
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Suppose that's a valid a reason as any to avoid what has ultimately been transpiring as accidental storm chasing of late.
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Was wet in a few places: start of In Hell/Life; Lou F first 2 left holds; start lh of Broken Heart + damp finger jug.
Improved over the day but stayed quite dead in terms of wind and pretty warm. If it didn't rain over night it will probably be in fairly good nick today.
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Does anyone know if rock attrocty is has stayed dry after this weeks rain?
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I dont know...but the pinchy thing you drop into at the end is one of the first things to get sepage so probably not. Depends if you want to work it, possible nearly all the time or do it, difficult with a wet pinch.
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Good today. Everything dry apart from the undercut pinch on R.A.. Lou F holds all bone. BH fingerjug a bit damp but dryable.
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Everything dry this evening and not bad conditions to boot, although the smell of piss wafting into the mouth of the Cave from round the corner was pretty grim.
Maybe time to start pissing further away?
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Pissing further away is a must I reckon as that was pretty grim at times yesterday :'(
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heading tomorrow... any good today?
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Was mint on Thursday so should be fine tomorrow!
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Seen the rain forecast so sacking off the st. bees trip :thumbsdown: . Wondered how the cave was looking though?
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Dry as a bone yesterday evening but very very humid.
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thinking of heading down here today with all the rain around. If anybody knows if its wet etc... holla!
Ta
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how was/is it? keen for tomorrow. nice one!
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excellent conditions for august I'd say. everything bone dry, sunny with a nice breeze, not too hot at all.
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good today but started to get a bit minging as we left.
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Anyone know how it looks for tomorrow?
Thanks
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spot on today, not a sign of wetness!
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Anyone been recently? Might be heading over tuesday depending on the weather.
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heading down wednesday, anyone goes between now and then a conditions report would be much appreciated.
Ta
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I hope this is in time for you Jim. Was there last night and it was in very good condition. Nice drying and cooling breeze, but not stupidly cold yet. Very little seepage so far, but I reckon there could be more very soon. Only significant damp hold was the juggy edge on Lou Ferrino, but it was dryable. Lovely evening actually, the Little Orme looked beautiful in the evening sunshine.
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nice one, thanks
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Would you give a return report tonight please. Just to keep the seepage status updated during this rain. Thanks.
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would love to repay the favour but I ended up going to the cliff to meet dylog on the promise of dry rock and a blow-job.
He came through with the dry rock (amazingly) but not the bj :(
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No blow job? What a selfish git.
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Does anyone have an up to date report on the seepage situation?
I'm most interested in rock attrocity.cheers
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Rock Atrocity was looking all good yesterday, as was most of the cave
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Thanks.
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It seems that the weekend's rain had an effect. My sources reported that much of the Cave was rather damp yesterday (LF, RA, low start to CB etc too wet to climb). Anyone been down today and noticed any improvement?
Thanks.
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Didn't go but the Ormes looked minging in general yesterday. Today was a fresher day
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Likewise, today is dawning and it seems to be a lovely fresh day again. The birds are singing and all is good in the world. Well, to a certain extend anyway.
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How was it today, have all the singing birds caused to seepage to receed?
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How was it today, have all the singing birds caused to seepage to receed?
The singing birds did the trick to a certain extent. Much drier yesterday (Tuesday), only really bits of LF that were wet, although there are damp patches on the right wall but nothing to get too worked up about. However, the singing birds had too great an effect and caused it to be too warm and windless so it was really quite sweaty in there (the sea was like a millpond). Plus, I forgot to take my arms or any semblance of ability so felt like shite and went elsewhere after an hour or so.
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Was seemingly a greasefest on all NW lime then yesterday. Ming.
Let's know when you're heading out Ben, be nice to catch up. Either that or when you're sitting still at home for a bit.
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be nice to catch up.
Word.
when you're sitting still at home for a bit.
That doesn't happen. I was however wondering aloud the other day whether you'd be keen to come and see Sven Vath at the Warehouse project in December. Not going to go to many of the WP things this year, but a few of us fancy that Cocoon night in particular. 10th December I think: http://www.thewarehouseproject.com/line_ups.php (http://www.thewarehouseproject.com/line_ups.php)
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Ben have you got a new wave of enthusiasm for the cave? i thought you weren't keen on the place!
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I'll have to see how uni/job is going around that time man but I saw yesterday Sven is in Liverpool at Circus soon. Different setup I know but worth knowing perhaps. I'll holla this week mate.
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Ben have you got a new wave of enthusiasm for the cave? i thought you weren't keen on the place!
Chris I am a born again Cave devotee. Made a decision to work my weaknesses big time. This is the year I get strong...
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For John is the kingdom, the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen.
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Surprisingly good this evening. Cave Life, LWT, RA all dry. LWH has a few holds seeping. LF and other stuff on that side looked ok but there's a few damp spots, I didn't look very closely. Pissing it down on and off all afternoon.
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Have managed to get a day off after having to work 3 days in a row, so wondering what the conditions are like at the moment? Not been since July so I'm expecting a major shutdown :thumbsup:
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I'm expecting a major shutdown :thumbsup:
Let's hope so. ;)
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Anyone been down in the last few days?i was wondering if rock atrocity was still dry.
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Mint conditions yesterday, Rock Attrocity was bone dry!
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That's great.cheers
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Has anyone been today? Im travelling over tomorrow.
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Everything dry today.
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Anyone been down the cave in the last few days? Thinking of heading over on Saturday
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Anyone been recently? May head there tomorrow. cheers
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Poked my head in today, lots of seepage around but most of left wall was dry. The front lip is soaking.
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Has anyone been in the last few days?
I'm mostly interested in r/atrocity or lou f.cheers
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Any update on the seepage? Interested in heading over this weekend if conditions are favourable.
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We went on monday and everything was dry apart from the rail on LF, but its rained since then so no idea now really
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Any update on the seepage? Interested in heading over this weekend if conditions are favourable.
You feeling okay Andy? :whistle:
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Any update on the seepage? Interested in heading over this weekend if conditions are favourable.
You feeling okay Andy? :whistle:
Fine and dandy.
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does anyone know anything about the conditions recently, thinking itll probably be one of the few places not covered in snow.
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We went yesterday an there was an arctic wind blowing into the cave itself so everything is dry.
but it was absolutely baltic, so hopefully will still be dry!
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Just to warn it was quite wet today. Lou Ferrino had a fair few wet patches. Left wall had a wet hold which was dryable.
The lip area was soaked affecting all of the Beavers and the original line also had wetness up high on the flake.
You can get a session in at the back of the cave on the arch, in hell/life/ra and on LWH links as well as Trigger cut.
Broken Heart finger jug was a bit clungy but dryable with some effort although the finishes were all wet.
It was fairly mild and the icicles which were there when we arrived started to melt and fall off..etc
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Anyone been since Monday? Has the continued freeze had an improving effect yet? Don't think there's been any precipitation out that way in the past few days has there?
Thanks.
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Managed to get a good day out of the cave today. Split and breck road areas mostly dry. In the cave, left wall dry apart from final bit of LW high, the arch and rock attrocity totally dry. Lou piss wet, as is everything right of it.
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Who's going next week and when?
need to get back into the cave and get some strength back
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Hi Jim. I'm thinking of maybe heading over tomorrow if you fancy it? I've mentioned it to Steve but he's not too keen. Luke H.
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sorry mate, working sunday.
off all next week
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We are heading there in a bit today so will update later on.
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keep away from those shady eliminates Rich!
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Conditions today were very good.
Wet holds included the finger jug on broken heart and the left hand catch on left wall before you cross under to the flake. Both dryable.
Arch was bone as was rockatrocity and Lou Ferrino. The lip problems were all climbable.
Temps were steady around 4 degrees today with no wind - It must have gotten some overnight wind which helped dry it out a lot. Bit busy in there mind!
(psst Dave.. I'm afraid I tried a couple after the mandatory redpoint failures on IL with both hands attempting to maintain grip on left wall this time, found a good sequence I think on Full Circle but the first move is fairly low %!).
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p.s. Jim, I'm keen to go Tues but would have to get to somewhere decent to meet you for a ride on the way if thats poss? Me and Mark are hopefully down Thursday too.
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can pick upon way through, chester maybe or runcorn even better.
will be in touch
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Fine in there today and the finger jug on BH has dried out, still abit of seepage on left wall but everything else mint.
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excellent will be heading there tomorrow.
any one else wanting a lift from manchester or chester better holla asafp
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crouch says you're gonna pop in for some man time
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Whats it looking like at the moment, thinking of heading over tomorrow, particulary interested in the RH side.
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Was a little condensed but if it gets a breeze tonight it should be ok tomorrow.
The usual holds were wet - flat thing on left wall trav, broken heart finger jug.
The stuff on the right was ok really.
The slopey handhold/foothold on the R.A./LouF ramp needed drying a bit as did the rail on lou F.
Arch is all dry but the slopers were a bit smeggy in the tropical 5 degree temps!
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Apart from hordes of Scousers worrying about crucial hold loss (and therefore demise of lifetime ambitions), what's the cave like at the moment? Anyone been this week? Doylo?
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All OK yesterday, pretty much identical to what Richie said.
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yeah, great nick really apart from the odd damp hold
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yeah, great nick really apart from the odd loose hold
Nice one, thanks.
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Dry tomorrow?
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Well i guess the rock will be dry, this is what Llandudno looks like:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5839823&l=80b610cc93&id=517723303 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5839823&l=80b610cc93&id=517723303)
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Any news on the conditions for the next few days?
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apparently dry today, will be there tomorrow
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Soaked today would give it a miss
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thanks for the report. saved us a wsted journey.
Damn It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nice one, saved me having to go and wank jim off
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guessing you have finished molesting the wobble block then Chris? :shag:
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The piece of shit is soaked right through, never seen it this wet before. Everything is wet, RA, Left Wall, The Arch. One dry right hand hold on Lou Ferrino.
Will be out for at least 3 or 4 days.
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snow melt + no wind = high humidity = wet cave
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A few of us headed there on Monday in the hope of dry rock. Everything sopping as Beastio describes including Split Infinity cave and Pill Box wall. Everything is wet in the Peak and Yorkshire too!! It's not fair :(
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Roland rat? I see the resemblance!
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Haha less of it Emery! It's actually Roland the Rat's accomplice, Kevin the Gerbil!! Just to annoy you I'm off to Font tomorrow.......touche.
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Bastard, sure you don't want to do a lovely mini-dissertation about normal faulting and let me go to font instead?
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Ooooh I don't know :) Haven't done much structural geology for a while now!!
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I haven't done anything but structural geology, mixed in with far too much Facebook Studies, for over a week now :'(
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Ah the life of a student, I kinda miss it (at least all the free time anyway). I'm sure it will all be worth it when you finish. Will think of you in Font :)
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I'm sure you will... Have a great time anyway! Hopefully it won't be as damp as it is here...
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Studying is full-time work in its own right (if done as it should be).
Students are entitled to breaks/Farcebook-study time too.
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everywhere is going to stay wet until there is a good bit of wind to shift all this moisture
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The massive rise in temps has fucked it
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It's too fucking foggy.
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If Carlsberg timed injuries... they'd time them for around the last 3 weeks! :thumbsup:
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anyone go today?
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If oneone is interested went yesterday and it was still ming, less ming but still required towels and psyche. By the end of the afternoon it was a lot better, probably ok by today/tommorow.
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great news Nodder!
maybe see you down there tomorrow
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Working bah humbug, but have cave psyche again so sure it wont be too long. Have fun.
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I think its very cheeky that the road is still shut when people pay for season tickets. the ice is long gone
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There were a few microwave-sized lumps of rockfall across the road and on the pavement below Mayfair Wall, back on 23 Dec, so I guess they may have kept the road closed to vehicles to see if any more rock comes down after the thaw, even though all the ice has gone.
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Furry muff! I love conwy council really! Wonder if that diinerplate flake on Masterclass has fallen off!
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So after my confident prophecy that it will be all good today can anyone confirm that i was right?
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sorry, didn't bother after all. will propably wait till the road opens up and its definately dry
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still damp but better today than it was a few days back, althou pillar finish in split infinity was the only bone dry route
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is the road still shut?
was left wall high dry?
cheers
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road was still shut yesterday unsure on the caves conditions now, theres some pretty big rocks that have fallen off the cliff and landed on the road so iguess the cold has taken its toll :boohoo:
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No access to road by foot or by car today
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Its a long way round but do they ever close the road that drops down from the top (that goes past the church)?
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just got off phone to conwy council. They have closed it due to rock fall and are hoping to re-open it tomorrow but it depends on how far they have got with the cleaning up operation. She said she''ll give me a ring back if she finds out any more information.
Edit:
She's just phoned and says they are doing a final sweep tomorrow morning and should be open tomorrow afternoon if everything is well.
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Its a long way round but do they ever close the road that drops down from the top (that goes past the church)?
Sometimes they do, but you can't drive back to the Cave anyway as it's one way.
Good detective work Jim.
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I was thinking more about walking back to the cave if there is no foot access from by the pier.
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You have been able to walk along the road from the pier until today. Normally if they're gonna shut it they shut the whole thing. Sounds like its getting sorted tomorrow anyway
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hope it sorted tomorow i fancy a midday sesh!
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Bumped into a couple of lads who were over there today who said that things were far from ideal but stuff was dryable.
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looks like its going too be wet again tomorrow... so much for the pre-nightshift session
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Anyone know if this increase in temps has fucked it?
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if only someone lived nearby?
I would also like to know
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Been away all week darling
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I'll let you off then petal
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Lets go next week Jim :great:
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lets go tomorrow!
I'm only off thursday next week but would be keen for then as well
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I would like to go next week as well, but I dont know about thursday. Could try and sort - Dylog - are you keen? we should arrange this privately really.
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lets go tomorrow!
I'm only off thursday next week but would be keen for then as well
If you want to go tomorrow (Friday) I could be pursuaded Jim... I'm over in Manc now.
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will let everyone know.
Waiting on a conditions report for tomorrow
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Lets discuss it here and tell everyone how amazing we will be only to be totally shut down again. I'm not free tomorrow but cool for next week gimp boys
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I wouldn't come just on an off chance, its 12 degrees. Massive increase
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I'll be leaving it unless there is a report in that its dry
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as predicted a gopfest
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everything is really wet, went past today
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hopefully it will dry out next week
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conditions update.
Condensation gone lots of seepage now.
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Cave experts, what would you say the chances of it being ok by Thursday are?
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Not really an expert anymore but think it has got to be good, frosty here last 2 days and sunny dryness. Nothing bad forcast before friday it will be glorious and perhaps even excellent.
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Thursday should be ok, its gone colder again, hasn't rained so it should dry out a bit!
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excellent news ;D
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Wooop gonna head down friday morning for abit hopefully conditions will be good.
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A couple of the lads headed down today an said it was still soaked! So bailed to the Climbing Hangar.
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Anybody been down over the weekend? seeing if its worth the drive tomorrow!
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Went down for the weekend! Rock atrocity and trigger cut are dry (well dry enough to get three people up them). So are Bonnie and Clyde (undercut seeping a little) and maybe pilgrim! Thats your lot really, definitely embraced the wetness this weekend!
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Probably due to condensation from the fog rather than seepage I imagine?
prob be worth the drive still la! Then hit the coffee stop at v12 and on to Jerry's Roof ;)
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Yh man! I reckon it was defiantly seeping, there was no fog- just overcast! Pass was bon on friday!
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If any one is going today or has been in the last few days I would love to hear what condition the cave is in please
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Bendy and Dylan were both there at the weekend and said mint.
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The only wet bit was the crack thing you use on the Greenheart connection or Halfway house (foot). Mint apart from that
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Thinking of heading out that way tomorrow. Anybody been down there today?
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She was pretty fucked today when we arrived, but managed to dry a few things by the end of the day. Not amazing
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I'm guessing the cave and surrounding venues are still gopping given the warmth, but then again it's so windy and that may help dry it off a bit. It also hasn't rained that much this week has it? It hasn't over in the Costa del Mersey anyway, although it's gonna p*ss down tonight and most of the weekend by the look of it.
Most of what I've just typed is a bit rhetorical and I'm mainly just musing 'cos I know what the Orme is like but has anyone local had a look today? Anyone reckon that any climbing will be possible on the Orme this weekend between or during the rain?
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Mate of mine who went yesterday said it was in reasonable nick.
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Possibility of me going there on Monday if anyone is around?
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Wait till Wednesday!
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Mate of mine who went yesterday said it was in reasonable nick.
That's helpful, thanks. The cool windy weather may preserve something for the weekend. Then again...
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Wait till Wednesday!
:agree: The weekend looks like it gonna be cack, but its pretty windy out, so should hopefully dry out a bit come mid week.
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Anyone had a look today? Was hoping to go tomorrow (sunday), but its a bit of a drive if its going to be :wank:.
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I considered it but eventually decided that it was a bit stupid to drive an hour there. Too warm, stupidly wet and little wind here in Liverpool and Wales was wetter I think. I'd be surprised if there's much that's dry in there. I live in hope though.
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Did anyone bother climbing there today? Looking to go tomorrow so any heads out would be appreciated :)
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How's it looking today? Anyone got a crystal ball handy to predict the conditions on Sunday?
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Has anyone been down today?
I believe it was fairly bad on Sunday so wondering if this was condensation/seepage or a combination?
Worth a punt? :-\
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I miss the cave. :'(
I might go down thursday if I'm not moving house and its fairly dry.
It was ok saturday
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i had a wander over on saturday and it was ok alot of areas were dry some were still wet thou and tomorrow forecast is rain...
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had another walk past today looking better again,
i also found some new projects too be done on the orme :thumbsup:
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I was thinking of heading over on Sat to renew my aquaintance with the cave (its been about 9 months since I last worshipped there :spank: )
Any idea what its like at the moment? and how it may be on Sat, as its due to get a dousing on Saturday night? Sorry thats a bit of a crystal ball question but wonder if there is any local knowldege to help..? I was hoping to get out closer to home but it looks like most of the Peak and Yorks looks like its going to be soaking or snowy.. :'(
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I had a quick peek in today and it wasn't too bad. Probably will be ok unless we get a temp change or some really minging conditions
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I had a quick peek in today and it wasn't too bad. Probably will be ok unless we get a temp change or some really minging conditions
Whoop! nice one. Might bring some drying aids (towells) just in case.. Thanks Doylo.. if you see one tall and two vertically challenged people failing on most things tomorrow - that'll be us!
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I'll be sure to throw some eggs as i drive past! :)
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most of split infinity was ok today,
the cave, pretty damn greasy with seapage..
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quickly passed the cave today, drying up nicely
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heya heading to the cave tommorrow does anyone know if its rained in the last few days? Is there much seepage going on?
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heya heading to the cave tommorrow does anyone know if its rained in the last few days? Is there much seepage going on?
Did you read the post above? and when it was posted :wall:
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Going to give it a go tomorrow, so hopefully there won't be any funny inversion business going on!
As an unlikely aside, has anyone been to or past Tremeirchion in the last few days and seen if its dry?
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Anyone been down today?
Want to head there tomorrow of it's not to moist!
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Great today, the odd damp hold but nearly everything in great nick, no grease at all
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Similar today. Only had to dry the 2nd left sidepull and the rail on Lou F. Rest was bone (apart from the fingerjug on Broken Heart).
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Much dampness and grease yesterday.
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mint today
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perfect today
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mint today
Did it rain Saturday afternoon? Me and Galpinos got chased across the Peak and Cheshire by rain and turned back East whilst on the A55 in torrential rain.
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Absolutely mint conditions last night. Even the sloper on the lip of Clever Beaver had dried out.
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Do you know if the slot hold, underneath the right hand pocket on Lou, is dry?
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Sorry, i didn't stick my head under there last night. The last slot on RA was dry, and the micro crack above the heel hook dish just right of this was completely seep free too.
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Sorry, i didn't stick my head under there last night. The last slot on RA was dry, and the micro crack above the heel hook dish just right of this was completely seep free too.
The slot is directly to the right of the right of "the micro crack". Sounds like good conditions!
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Any word on the cave at the moment? Thinking of heading over tomorrow on a stealth mission :ninja:
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good yesterday, inspite of sea fog. Almost everything doable.
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This being one of our rainy back-up plans for Thursday/Friday any insider knowledge very much appreciated on conditions... :thumbsup:
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Mainly dry today with no major seepage but no breeze and a humid sea fog that hung around all day meant that most holds were greasey.
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This being one of our rainy back-up plans for Thursday/Friday any insider knowledge very much appreciated on conditions... :thumbsup:
You guys are going to the cave on Thur/Fri! Call me :goodidea:
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i want too head cave tomorrow too, so any info would be good,
the weather around here has been ok today and forcast good tomorrow so should be mostly dry
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This being one of our rainy back-up plans for Thursday/Friday any insider knowledge very much appreciated on conditions... :thumbsup:
You guys are going to the cave on Thur/Fri! Call me :goodidea:
I'll call you right now - robot legs
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This being one of our rainy back-up plans for Thursday/Friday any insider knowledge very much appreciated on conditions... :thumbsup:
You guys are going to the cave on Thur/Fri! Call me :goodidea:
I'll call you right now - robot legs
I thought your arm had fallen off
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Dylan, bell me mate 07986992199
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Has anyone been down to sea view wall recently? Wondering when it might be dry down there?
Cheers.
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If you are talking about the cave, then yes it was pretty much all dry today. If not then I can't help you
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sweet hope its nice tomorrow might get a sesh before my night shift YARRRRRRR
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should be some dry stuff on sea view, prob have to wait til the summer for flashpoint though
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Thanks for the reply! Wanted to have a blast on flashpoint and the v7 next to it. Guess I'll have to wait for the summer then or at least a few weeks of bonedry weather?
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The cave was bone today! Climbed about 30 problems then went to Pillbox which was also very dry and carried on the punishing volume :chair:
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Yes, it was. The weather was so nice I went to the pass instead, but stopped in on my way back.
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cave was dry as a bone today but lots of holds were greasy due too the sea misty & lack of wind, damn the ocean
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All dry yesterday.
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Has anyone pulled on the flippin wobbly block yet?
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Yeah, it seems solid. Although harder to match it now.
Good job Chris.
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Some people are never happy ;D
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ideal conditions today 90% dry and no grease plus i managed leftwall ;D
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Cave was pretty good yesterday! Lots of rain this morning though.
Also I did Lip Service yesterday which was my first v8.....but it also felt really really soft for v8...I don't think I can claim to have ticked a true v8 yet.
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I don't know why its in the guide as V8, it was graded V7 originally and thats what it is. Effort tho
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Yeah that sounds about right. Time to work Beaver Cleaver me thinks...
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For me clever is 7a+ and beaver 7b tho they both get split grades
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clever beaver = warm up
beaver cleaver = life time project
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Beaver Cleaver Direct - requires months of :strongbench: i think! Spicy
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clever beaver = warm up
beaver cleaver = life time project
Yeah I can do Cleaver Beaver nearly everytime now....haven't tried Beaver Cleaver yet but I'm sure it will spit me off and off. I'm psyched for the beaver links :weakbench:
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shag a gull' and spank a goose your all about the beaves arron lad!
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Non UKB friend is asking about Cave conditions. Any word?
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dry
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Positively arid today. Bit warm like.
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Was mint this evening.
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today - ungreasy and sweet!
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Totally dry still but felt a bit humid till after 7ish.
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dry, a little greasy
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Anyone got any recent updates on conditions in the cave? Any ideas on what it might be like this weekend?
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i guess the cave is dry after this lovely weather. but are you allowed to climb there in the evenings this weekend? doesn't say anything about it in the guide so assume its ok.
also is stuff in the cave hard per say? i know it depends on the grades but do you need to be very strong to get up some of the v5/v6's? cheers
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i guess the cave is dry after this lovely weather. but are you allowed to climb there in the evenings this weekend? doesn't say anything about it in the guide so assume its ok.
also is stuff in the cave hard per say? i know it depends on the grades but do you need to be very strong to get up some of the v5/v6's? cheers
I dont know about conditions but it is hard. I climb 7A > 7A+ on grit (done the odd 7B) and can only play on a few things at the cave.. its a good place to go there and I'm sure you'll like it, but most of the stuff there is either warm up or nails (in my puntering view..)
ps. no V grades at the cave.....
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You can climb there all year round, any time. Just go and enjoy it, don't worry about the grades.
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having said that....http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=461587 (http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=461587)
Looks like marine drive is shut Saturday, doesn't say how long for though.
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cheers for the replies. sounds good. asked about the marine drive closure and it re opens at 6pm on saturday.
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It's all jugs, get involved! :thumbsup:
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can't be worse than pigeons last night which was more than ok
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Conditions were ok yesterday, tad greasy. But there were loads of feckin midges in there, mingin.
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amazing conditions for june at the mo!
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No Idea about the conditions, but Alex Puccio was there today according to my mate...
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any chance of it being good tomorrow?? cheers
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It was fine if a tad greasy in there today, so it should be fine tomorrow as well
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Anyone been today? Seepage?
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Hard to call, doubt seepage will be a problem but might be slightly smeggy as its nasty weather. Probably worth a look if you're not driving too far
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All dry last night, though starting to feel a bit smeggy as the light faded. Should be a goer.
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Thanks for the beta! Might do a middle of the day hit to minimise the chances of encountering morning/evening smeg.
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Thanks for the beta! Might do a middle of the day hit to minimise the chances of encountering morning/evening smeg.
You might bump into the middle of the day smeg though... ;)
(sorry, its been a long day..)
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its raining big style down this end so expect very poor conditons today/tomorrow
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Hmmmmm, perhaps not worth the risk, especially when you factor in middle-of-the-day smeg. Damn. Might sack it and go to the tor instead :yawn:
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shockingly good conditons today..
also i found a 'beal' bag so i brought it home so it didnt get stolen, so owner pm me
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whats it like today? the weather in beddgelert is toss but i can see sun over to porthmadog way.
worth the trip?
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I miss the cave :'(
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Anyone know how the cave is holding out through all this rain?
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can almost guarantee itll be wet
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Quite a lot if seepage today, but most tings climbable/dryable
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most things climbable. (not by me)
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for any concerned, went past today twas' sweet!
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Has the cave seeped after are awesome summer weather over the last week?
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cave was pretty good today! not much sepage vertually all climbs were on appart from beaver cleaver etc (because of bad rain) 'may' seep over night depending on what the weather does!
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wet shite
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If anyone goes today/tonight can they post what it is like to save a looong drive. Thanks.
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whats it looking like for today/ tomorrow? the forecast doesnt look too good. cheers
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An up to date seepage report from today would be much appreciated... contemplating the drive over from Shef' tomorrow.
Cheers, Joe
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popped in this morning and all seemed fine. Rained alot in the morning and turned very sunny with strong winds later so should be ok tomoz.
Hope that helps...
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Thanks!
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seeping pretty bad yesterday afternoon.
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How bad seepage? Rock atrocity dry? Does trigger cut seep?
Planning on heading over 2moz
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there again today most problems were ok! RA is ok think part of ferrino is wet
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trigger doesn't seep
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any one been recently? might head there tomorrow...
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Went today, all was basically fine.
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If anyone goes today, an up-to-date seepage/weather report would be very much appreciated. Need to decide whether it's worth the annual leave/petrol to come over from Sheffield...
Ta, Joe
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Anyone been down in the last few days?Was wondering if it was seeping bad after all the shit weather.Thinking of heading over from yorkshire tomorrow.
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Just had a text from the sausage thus:'total wash out. seepage and condensation. unclimbable'
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I concur, very damp in there this morning. Condensation and seepage. Good breeze tho and dry here.
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got a team down from the Lakes in the wall this eve washed out of Porth Ysgo, wondering what the conditions are like in the cave this week, anyone been down recently?
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I was in there yesterday. It was mainly ok with seepage in the usual places (i.e. first left hand on Louie, finger jug you get on Crucial Times etc). Should dry out well with all this wind unless it has rained a lot.
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cheers John, think they're gonna risk Ysgo again tomorrow but will pass the knowledge on
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ok today!
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anyone had a look in recent days?
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mint yesterday
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awesome, im hoping to get up in it sun pm
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i would come and show you how to do Beaver Righthand but i'm working
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Pretty fucked yesterday and moderately fucked today. Various things you could work bits of, but left wall and maybe rockatrocity were about the only things you could actually do.
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...and Trigger Cut. Not that I did...
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been cave today, bit wet but most stuff is dry.
another thing,
there seems too be an awful lot of litter being left there at the moment and its not going too give climbers a good name/reputation i filled a carrier bag with bits i found today, im sure its only a few who do litter but can everyone make sure they take there rubbish home with them and respect the area :thumbsup:
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Ducko, it might not be climbers. A few years back I went through a weekly battle picking up bag loads of rubbish here. A crew of boy racers had taken to hanging out on Marine Drive late at night - and each time they parked up they would spill out cans, fast food pakaging etc.
I contacted the Ormes warden, just to let her know that it wasn't us. She already knew about it as an issue and understood it had nothing to do with climbers.
Still, it's good to pick the stuff up. makes the place nicer and you're generating good karma.
Here, have a point from me!
All that being said, if any climbers are dropping litter, Ducko's message should be shouted loud and clear: Don't drop it and if you see any, pick it up!
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Definitely quite a bit of finger tape lying around. Also, can folk try not to leave the in-situ mats underneath a drip please. Common sense I'd have thought. I'd have thought tucked away at the bottom of the cave is where they should be stored at the end of the day.
Updates this week much appreciated.
As a word of 'warning', there's a stag-do planning to be there saturday. Might not be the best day if you're looking for peace & quiet. Although if you need a pad stack to practice the move to the shot-hole on Trigger Cut, I reckon it'll be just about right...
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Ye the Cave's banned sat for ben pritch's stag do, no invite, no entry...
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The other forum has reports of access limits to LPT and Parisellas. Apparently with some sort of decision to re-open the Orme, or not, being taken today (Wednesday). Anyone know anything?
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Its open now
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Anyone in there this evening know what it was like?
Mainly interested in the 2nd Left hold on Lou F and the undercut pinch on RA, cheers!
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im not saying its only climbers but i cant see boy racers leaving 2ltr bottles of spring water and bits of old tape :P
i may just palm the blame off onto the ramblers
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The temperatures predicted to shoot up to 24 degrees on Tuesday so the cave could well suffer from temperature inversion and gop out
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usual area by ferrino/RA is wet, and everything feels greasy!
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heya guys im heading up for some cave loving tomorrow anyone know how its looking?
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sweaty as fuck!
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Was in ok nick yesterday, some seepage was starting to come through though by the end of the day above left wall and in the centre of the cave.
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Was in ok nick yesterday, some seepage was starting to come through though by the end of the day above left wall and in the centre of the cave.
Popped yer cave cherry at last Rob.. :)
Did you enjoy? What did you tick?
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Yeah really enjoyed it tom-tom. No idea what I climbed tho, Katz pointed me up stuff. I ended up doing 4 problems in total and flashed one of them. worked rock atrocity, I'm hopeful that will go next session as i just din't have the beans left to link it.
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Any updates from today? Will it be ok tomorrow, or has there been too much rain this week?
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How do people think the caves going to be mon tues this week?
x
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Usual seepage but not gopping. It's not greasy either. Might rain a bit more later on though.
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Shocking news today, the communal mats that were there have been set on fire by the end of leftwall leaving that whole are black and minging, most of the burnt remains have been removed I also brushed as much of the charcoaly shite off as I could, not bloody impressed!
I'm working all weekend but if it's cleaned up by next week I'll be going down and doing my best to clean it up..
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yep tommy chamings turned up to find the end of left wall and fire and managed to put it out
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Some kids turned up while I was there and had a look at it I guessed they were the ones who did it, little fuckers.
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I brushed the ashes up after helping Tommy put the fire out. A couple of points:
It's not 'shocking'. What is shocking is that local kids haven't set fire to some of the trash left in the cave before now; I would have if I was a kid hanging around there, going off my adolescent form of firestarting-for-a-laugh :alky:
The cave may be amazing to us, but it's just another scruffy little hole to 99.9% of the public. There's every chance someone could set fire to the place and destroy one of the best hard bouldering venues we have, and by leaving fucking gym mats lying around in there as if they're normal things to find outdoors we only increase the chance of it happening.
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:agree:
It could have been a lot worse, the cave got away lightly this time. Lets sack off old pads in there
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The litter issue has been brought up many times you can't force people to take there litter home only hope that they do it, as for the mats that goes without saying I agree not replacing them is a good idea, I guess kids dont have a whole lot to do these days but that doesn't make it ok to go and set random items on fire
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Nobody's saying that setting shit on fire's ok. But setting shit on fire is exactly what kids do. I did it myself. Ergo leaving stuff lying around in one of our most cherished shit holes sorry bouldering caves is not a good idea gievn the unavoidable fact that kids will set fire to things. Right or wrong doesn't enter the equation.
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Well unless they can set goat shit on fire all should be well from now on :P
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Anyone got knowledge on the state of Rock Atrocity, Lou Ferrino and Broken Heart at the moment?
Cheers
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I was there yesterday afternoon. Was ok in there, tad greasy but not bad. RA was fine, 2nd left hold and rail on Lou were wet, Broken was fine as well, shothole a tad greasy and the big hold a bit goppin'
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Thanks pal.
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Was fairly dry all round yesterday. Some damp patches but Lou F was fine after drying the 2nd Left hold and even the smeggy fingerjug on Broken Heart was bone.
Just needs to cool by about 5 degrees and it'd be perfect :please:
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Was in reasonable nick again today, damp patches but i couldn't see anything in there that wouldn't be do-able with some attention from a towel.
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cave tomorrow! dont rain tonight please ;D
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Has it warmed up too much for the cave today???
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Not bad today some holds felt a touch greasy but acceptable conditions a little cooler and it'll be mint!
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An update from today much appreciated... thinking of driving over from Sheff tomorrow
Ta, Joe
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Anyone know what the Cave is like at the moment? Thinking of heading over tomorrow pm..only the stuff on the outer lip needs to be dry, as it's the only stuff I might get done! ;D
Thanks.
Laura
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Olla,
Anyone know if Bonnie is dry?
cheers ears
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not been too the cave at all but i guess it'll be seeping as we have had lots of rain last few days! as i say not been but i live 5 mins away ;)
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not been too the cave at all but i guess it'll be seeping as we have had lots of rain last few days! as i say not been but i live 5 mins away ;)
Ok thanks.
If anyone actually does go by there could they have a gander. :)
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Bonnie doesn't really seep. Will only be knackered if whole cave is gopped
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How fares she?
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Pretty damn wet yesterday. depressing.
Ended up hitting Breck Rd and Split which were both pretty dry in comparison.
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Wet condensed or just lots of the usual seepage? Mainly interested in Pilgrim and the right wall reverse into Bust Lip/original line. Looks like it has been a bit showery today but clearing up tomorrow morning before a bit more of the wet stuff later on :-\
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all the usual seepage, conditions were shit as well, chalk was like toothpaste on/in some holds. Hold over the lip on clever beaver was unusable as well, and most the outside was goppin'.
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Cheers la! May head East and sand off some skin on the brown stuff :shit:
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i am hoping to pop to le' cave wed's if anyone is there tomorrow please update on condition's of the goppy mess!
diolch!
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dont you live round the corner or something? its your duty to tell us! I expect twice daily updates please - preferably with pictures!
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:agree:
He lives a feckin stones throw away the lazy bugger!
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People don't pester me as much these days
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haha i have spent many hours in the goats toilet but not lately (hense my beating the other day when i went,i blame the cakes)
ill go tomorrow and give a detailed update, i hope its not minging althou i fear the worst..
also i do live 5mins away but ive been doing 12hr shifts so no time too look :whistle:
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I'm not sure if this type of query belongs here, but: Does trigger cut tend to remain in condition when it is raining? Anyone know what condition it is in lately?
Thanks
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popped to the cave today, more moist than a hoe's snatch! thats what its like, minging horrible uch a fi! needs some drying out time, some stuff is dry but most things have wetness
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thinking of poppin there this weekend - is there any point?!?
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Depends how far you are travelling from. The weather hasn't improved since the last update from Ducko, so I'm guessing it's still soggy.
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Weather forcast for Sat/Sun looks good though. Does it dry fairly fast? Respond well to towel drying?
I'm determined to give Rock Atrocity a good go this weekend..
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I don't think RA really seeps? Maybe only the rail on LF if you use if for your foot?
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RA seeps at the end, Pinch n pocket. TC stays dry in all but the grimmest conditions. Sounds shit at the moment, i'd go elsewhere
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it will be shite there, guarantee'd, RA was ok the other day i had to dry the pinch thou but its rained more since then so i wouldnt come all that way to do one or two problems
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Anyone been down to the cave today? If so whats it like? Looking on heading down tomorrow.
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Michael you little thief! Its not too bad at the moment, as long as its not snowing buckets down there you should be fine.
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complete shite, aswell as split infinity, not even pillar finish is dry
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bit off topic but how does Pill Box Wall cope with abit of sun and showers? fast drying or seepy? cheers
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how is it? know that the weather on xmas eve,xmas and boxing day was dry and very windy.
thinking of a trip there tomorrow
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according to a local source its still seeping badly in places and a bit grim.
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I was there yesterday and the only dry problems were the start of Left Wall trav and Cave Life Short. Everything else was dripping.
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ah bloody hell. Did anyone get a look at Breck road and split infinity or even Pill box wall?
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anyone looking in today? If its dry would probably come over
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Good to see you easing back in gently Jim. A far cry from Diffs at Windgather.
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any news boyos? is she climbable?
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word on the drive is that it is still pretty wet. bloody wales...
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It'll stay wet as it rains every other day. No problem for Jim though
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What its only raining every other day down there? you lucky boys.
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ye only spitting now
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Is the end of R.A. likely to be dry tommorow? i.e. undercut pinch and last drilled pocket? Cheers!
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You not bored of that problem yet?
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Just need to finish off the bastard long link into it and not have to get back on those moves for a while (Till end of LA anyway!) :thumbsup:
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the end of RA was mingin' on Tuesday. Not been there since.
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for anyone who is keen... dont be. even carreg hylldrem was piss wet through today.
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I know 2 people who were actually there 2 days ago and there was dry rock in the cave as well as Breck Road being bone, so there could be a session of sorts to be had?
May be there tomorrow if forecasts stay the same so will update with problem specific wetness..etc
Have a good NY eve :beer2:
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Anyone been down lately? Struggling to decide where to go tomorrow.
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Was there yesterday, Lou Ferrino was soaked and so was the Left Wall. Finish hold on Rock Atrocity was wet but the rest of the problem was fine. Unless it dried out today i'm guessing it'll be much the same unfortunately
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Cave has been shite for a while now weather is supposed to be better this week so hopefully it'll dry out some, there's always breck road and pillbox should be dry
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Thinking about going this weekend (from Sheffield) - if it does dry (or not) :please: can somebody let me know. Thanks.
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after the recent weather id imagine there should be a fair amount of dry rock
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been at the cave for a bit today everything is dry pretty much, crack on! :beer2:
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Anyone had a look today please?
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Doing ok today
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Moist today still stuff to climb thou!
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How's it looking for this weekend ?
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Any updates? May try to head down on Sunday
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Pretty dry today :smart:
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Is that totally dry or just bits??
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any reports recently?
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Was pretty wet yesterday, most of the stuff nearer the lip soaked - trigger cut, bonnie, end of left wall, clever beaver etc. Most of the stuff at the back was pretty good however, pilgrim, in hell etc. Pinch on rock atrocity wet as was rail and pocket on lou ferrino. Was drying over the course of the day though.
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Don't bother today as everything is soaking. Even the dry stuff is wet.
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The cave doesn't respond well to the rapid changes in temperature we are experiencing at the moment. The temperature has risen about 8 degrees in the past two days so it will probably have condensed out.
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Hello, Would the cave be a right off on saturday?? Thanks
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assuming the cave is still gopping?
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Anyone been down today or yesterday? Looks like it could be ok with today being dry and tomorrow looking stable with a good breeze coming across :please:
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Stuck my head in today, most things are dry except the usual suspects that take longer to dry! Hopefully it's good for tomorrow!
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Seeping a fair bit and condensing a fair bit as well this aft, plenty of stuff dryble but a fair amount of effort required.
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Update please?
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minging today one soul giving it a dam good go thou :bow: :clap2: :slap:
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Anyone been in today?
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Was in great nick yesterday when I went, i think pretty much everything was free from seepage. Got the train there on my own so had no pads - pissed to find the mats had gone, got a pretty sore ass now from trying Lou Ferrino :furious:
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Youths set em on fire!
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Oh well, bound to happen i suppose, at least they didnt lay turds all over them
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Oh well, bound to happen i suppose, at least they didnt lay turds all over them
someone did once actually
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and it was you Christopher Doyle after one of your scat sessions in there
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your missus made me do it
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It all looked a bit wet today (to a non-regular), but everything seemed to actually be dry/dryable.
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If anybody has a look today could they post here? Interested in Left Wall and Left Wall High.
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It's decent
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Was very good at the weekend, not much wet around. Pretty nippy in the wind though!
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very mint
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not a greasy question but how is the 'crimp with a thumb-catch' on sam's finish in terms of wobblyness. It always seems like it's going to fall right off whenever I'm there so is it worth sticking some superglue down the back of it?
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go for it. It'll fall off eventually no doubt
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Okay, cool. I'll be there next month and I'll do it then.
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Cave in jolly good nick yesterday.
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A few wet patches but on the whole fairly good conditions by the time I left this afternoon.
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Was decent enough yesterday but quite humid and a few wet patches. It'll fall down soon with all that water...
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Anyone have a look today? Hoping to head over from Sheff tomorrow.
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Barring a couple of easily dryable damp holds was pretty in damn good nick, good temps too.
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Pretty dry but greasy, there's an ill fog on the sea!
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Pretty dry but greasy, there's an ill fog on the sea!
I thought 'ill' was meant to be a good thing these days? Hoping it is ok tomorrow!
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There's a well whack fog on the sea** ;)
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She's good to go at the mo!
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:agree: she was pretty sticky. Begging for some sends.
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guess its still all good in the cave for this weekend?
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Not been this week but there has been no rain so it'll be dry!
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All good
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Decent again today
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found it pretty warm yesterday. Pill box on the other hand was lovely and cold
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does anyone know how its coping with the rain? or can anyone guess if Pill box will dry out for tomorrow afternoon?
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Prime Prime Prime!
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All dry tonight but pretty grim with all the dirt blowing around even though the cave was sheltered from most of the wind. Whilst sat in my car waiting to drive offf a number of football size boulders landed in front of me right where another car had been parked seconds earlier!
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That wasn't me was it - white van? Couldn't believe there was a party on Mayfair wall tonight, super-grim!
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No it was the party who got blown off Mayfair and sought refuge in the cave! I'm guessing you didn't get much done at Pill box?!
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No, I got out of the van for a look and quickly got back in and drove to the wall.
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What's happening in the cave? Good for tomorrow?
Cheers
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I went anyway.
Cave is OK. Conditions felt a bit poor early on but were improving but still a bit greasy and damp. Large areas of seepage around clever beaver although this was still OK to climb.
Cheers
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any reports from today?
cheers :)
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I'm hoping to go to cave tomorrow from Sheffield so would appreciate an update if possible..thank you.. Vics
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Wondering about heading over to the cave tomorrow or Thursday, anybody been there today? Is it seeping much?
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Was there late this afternoon, a couple of small areas of seepage in the cave itself but nothing serious, most of the wet was over on the right on the lip around clever beaver, dryable long enough to get up it but the sloper over the lip for the left hand and the last move was wet again within 5 minutes. That being said my mate did Lip Service for her for first V8 (cos she's too short for the knacky upside down toe drop knee sequence) :2thumbsup:
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cool, thanks for that, think I'm heading up on thursday so hopefully the dryness will hold
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any reports from today, in particular Pill Box for greasyness? No doubt in prime condition for tomorrrow :)
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In good nick today. Was cold. Usual damp patches but all good. Went pill box as well. Wasn't too greasy at all.
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the cave was sweet today! pretty much no dampness
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Just wondering if anyone had any info on how the cave was holding out during the current deluge?
Ta Steve
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Holding out very well at the mo
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It's not really been a deluge here, just showers
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Nice one lids... now if you can just keep updating with a more detailed report every 3 hours until 9am Saturday morning that would be grand :thumbsup:
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Marvellous! Thanks for the update.
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If anyone has an update/prediction for conditions tomorrow it would be much appreciated. Ta.
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I was there last night and it was mint.
There was the odd bit of seepage but nothing that would stop you doing any of the main problems.
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:dance1: Cheers!
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Was good conditions today indeed!
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Has the cave seeped? Thinking of getting down Tuesday, Wednesday, is it worth it? Thanks Dan
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Based on conditions of Saturday and the limited amount of rain since then I reckon it should be fine tomorrow. If you do go then please post a report though, as I am thinking of heading over again next saturday. Ta.
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It was seeping pretty bad on Sunday. Conditions were pretty shit and the whole of the outside was wet.
Had a few showers since but nothing too bad.
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Is still ok, few wet holds but nothing too serious
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Cave was in alright nick last couple of days, a few annoying wet holds on louis ferrino but other wise pretty good.
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Any updates ahead of tomorrow would be much appreciated, particularly on the state of LWT. Thanks.
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Was ok yesterday I'd imagine it to be ok tomorrow!
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Was good today.
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Any updates from today? Has there been much rain there today? Predictions for tomorrow?
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The fortress is still holding out!
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It was wild there yesterday afternoon (after Doylo had run off to play with his balls, snooker I think he said?) - spray blowing into the cave and water running under our pads. Conditions were good though if you could get warm. Later on the seepage started to speed up though so we bagged it.
Quite a big temp rise today, so it could be condensing?
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Damn. Sounds mingin. I'm off there tonight after work seeing as I'm only a few minutes away. Will update on conditions.
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It's proper shitting it down with bucketfulls of cunt in Liverpool.
Dare I ask how she fares today :ohmy:
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Well i sacked off my plans to go their in favour of steep boards, so i don't know for sure but llandudno looks like this... http://www.llandudno-weather.co.uk/ (http://www.llandudno-weather.co.uk/)
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There even. FFS
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yesterday she was starting too seep a bit but after today im guessing it will be getting more moist but ive not actually been down today!
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I went last night and it was pretty minging. Some sections were still dry but you couldn't do many full problems.
We went up to Norman Wisdom roof and despite a bit of dampness had a good session.
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Is the cave still seeping? Any news?
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the dam had to break eventually
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Conditions were horrible yesterday. Really humid. There were still patches of seepage. The usual suspects (left hand hold and rail on LouF) but it was a lot drier than the start of the week so might be decent by the weekend.
It is however Extravaganza weekend so avoid Llandudno at all costs!!!!!!
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Oh fuck forgot about that. I love it when a 5 minute drive takes an hour >:(
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That's the Victorian part... get into the scene and turn up to the cave on your steam traction engine Chris
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apparently there doing donkey rides too the crag for £2.95 or alternatively you can bring scrap metal as payment
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Looked okay today.
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A couple wet bits when I left today but most stuff looked fine.
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Anyone know how the cave is fairing?
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Was in good nick last night. No wetness in the cave but it has pretty much rained none stop for the last 12hrs.
More rain on the way, but I think she'll be good and hold out for the weekend?
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Anyone heading down today? Would be great to get an update before the weekend!
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Yes i'd be interested. Has the rise in temps made it condensed?
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fucked yesterday from rising temps but should recover quick
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Any updates/predictions for tomorrow, especially stuff around Clever Beaver & Bust Lip?
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was ok y day
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Its pretty hot and still in the Peak today. Is it likely to be the same in the Cave? Just trying to work out if a long drive to get there is worth it.
Cheers
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Plenty of sun down this way so it should be good
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Any updates? - really wanna try Incomplete Youth. Any reports would be great. Thank you.
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Was there yesterday and everything was bone dry as far as I could see, had a great time for a first visit too.
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popped in quickly this evening was decent!
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All main lines dry this morning. Nothing obvious wet. Been dry all day too...
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Still ok.road and footpath shut this Saturday
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road and footpath shut this Saturday
How come? Presume this means the Cave will be inaccessible for the day?
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Don't know. It opens up at 6pm.
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Is anyone heading there after 6? Or Sunday? Does anyone think it will seep if the rain keeps up? as me and a few mates are going up tomorrow morning. Hoping to catch a break in the weather for some pass action too. Cheers
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Its bound to start getting wetter soon but there should be plenty to go at in the short term.
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Nice avatar Liam ;)
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Sweet. You about on either day? im keen to try pilgrim Will that be ok? Cheers
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Maybe later on on Sunday. Pilgrim should be ok, i'm going to try it today so will let you know. The end of RA is the only bit that gets wet usually and its often dryable.
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More info on the road closure copied from the BMC website for anyone that is interested:
"A car rally being staged at Llandudno means the Marine Drive on the Great Orme will be shut to all cars with restricted pedestrian access on Saturday 9 June 2012.
The BMC has only just been informed about the rally and the closures affecting the Marine Drive.
Climbing will not be allowed above the road - meaning all of Upper Pen Trwyn - throughout most of Saturday until after 6pm.
Access to Lower Pen Trwyn will only possible at very low tide by walking in directly along the beach from the pier.
Bouldering at Parisella's Cave will also be inaccessible, unless you can walk in from the Happy Valley road which leads to the ski-slope."
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Cheers fella. Good luck on pilgrim, hopefully catch you Sunday.
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Caves looking a good / only option for tomorrow but don't want to make the long drive if we can't get to the cave. The BMC doesn't help much - 'if you can walk in' - suggest you can but may be told to leave or that that path may be blocked? Has anyone climbed in the cave in the past with the rally on and was everything OK or is it best to stay away?
Cheers
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We were over at the same time last year and could neither drive in or walk in. Some people tried to walk in from around the back and were told to leave. I think they re-opened the road later on in the afternoon but not sure what time
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Was good conditions today, the odd hold starting to seep, hopefully it's still dry on sunday.
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If anyone gets there this evening, after the road re-opens, I'd really appreciate an update. Travelling over from Shef for the day tomorrow, so don't want a 5 hour round trip to look at wet rock. We've got plenty of that over here!
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A bit drippy in there today. Most things climbable, but seemed to be getting a bit worse towards the end of the day.
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Ok today. If people want to stuff paper towels in cracks to dry out the holds can they please take them away at the end of their session.
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Surely shoving tissue, paper towels and caking shit in chalk just prolongs the seepage by not letting it all out quickly in the first place?! I dunno, it looks a state though.
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Any news on how the cave is holiding out?
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Was dry in there last night, but sidepull on LF was damp.
There's been a lot of rain since then though so not sure about tomorrow?
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A bit drippy but OK yesterday.
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How's Trigger Cut looking?
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Trigger Cut doesnt seep
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Most stuff OK today in the cave, a bit drippy and usual suspects wet though problems like Clever Beaver OK. Too still and hot to be much fun though.
More importantly, as it looks like weather is about to turn, there is a triathlon on this saturday so marine drive and surrounding roads are shut 10 - 6. I asked the guy at the gate if climbing would be permitted and he said not while the road is shut.
Cheers
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was warm yesterday and pretty dry apart from the pinch on RA
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Anyone any idea how things are looking after the recent rain?
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Just got back from there, LW and LWH all dry excet one wet hold on the finish of LWH. Arch dry. RA dry. LF just a couple of wet holds. Original damp but ok. CB wet on lip. RWT wet.
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any news from the cave?
thinking of heading tomorrow and its a long way from Sheff
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Anyone got news? Might make a weekend of it if its climbable seeing as there isn't ANYWHERE else that is.
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i was there on wed and it was ok. Bit drippy. Pinch on RA wet. Main problem was the heat and humidity
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Cheers high repute, that pinch is always a mess!! Hopefully would be better this weekend, lower humidity, bit of wind and not so hot.
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Usual wet holds but the dry rock was good, it was cold and windy. Mint on the Box.
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LW high?
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LW high?
that famous 7b+ traverse?
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LW high?
that famous 7b+ traverse?
As long as it's harder than 7B. Shameless grade chasin is where its I'm at... :clap2:
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1 wet hold i think, the good one in the roof just after you break from LWL
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If you dont grade chase your a liar!! Fact.
LW high is nails i was just gabbering rubbish.
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Soft 7c ;)
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Not really a boulder problem though is it Andy? More like f8a...
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Not really a boulder problem though is it Andy? More like f8a...
But I'll take the grade :smart:
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Pumpy 7c
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ok today
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anybody been today?
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Went this morning, about three holds dry, went back to sheff.
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Went this morning, about three holds dry, went back to sheff.
blimey you looked to be in a remarkably good mood at the wave for a man who'd driven to Llandudno and back to get there.
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He did a classic route the day before ;) we re all doomed!
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I was woken up by a man rubbing milk into my nipples, what's not to be happy about?
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any updates?
ta
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I went there a couple of days ago and it was almost completely condensed out with the exception of some of the lip problems: Beaver Cleaver and that all dryable. Unfortunately the shothole on Trigger Cut pretty damp and hard to dry. Lots of dripping going on deeper in the cave...
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...Lots of dripping going on deeper in the cave...
That's just Doylo, ignore him.
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looked shit
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Wank
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Anyone got an update. Thinking of going tomorrow
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Bizarrely dry!
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Me and a couple mates are hopefully heading up monday, tuesday and wednesday and would be nice to have the cave as a back up if the weather craps out, any news?
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apparently according to my mate it was wet today so they went to lpt
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It's climbable, just not very nice. Dripping a lot and generally damp! Left wall dry, in hell sit starts dry, arch dry. RA drop down pinch and pocket wet! All the other usual seepage points wet! Pill box is good at the moment!
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Any news how it's looking this week? Reckon Bust Lip finish will by dry by Thurs/Fri?
Cheers.
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Absolutely gopping last night. The entirety of Left Wall was soaked and massive seepage coming through the rest of the cave. So much water coming through that the majority of the floor was wet and muddy. Basically, it's f*cked.
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:furious: looks like a change of plan is in order then! Although finding any dry rock in this shitty excuse for a summer could be a challenge. Thanks for the update.
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On Monday the cave was in the worst state I've ever seen it but pill box was more than salvageable!! The pass was also mint yesterday, somehow!
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Pill Box wall was fine last night. Got some lovely pics of Doylo for the new guide.
Temperature is dropping a touch over next few days so the Cave will probably come good again.
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How's she looking?
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Didn't climb there but looked back on form today. A lot fresher
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Very dry this evening. Even the slot on green heart connection/big link was dry! Shame that it was incredibly humid and the midges were out. LPT look good though
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popped in yesterday was alright everything was dry
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can any one provide an update?
cheers
John
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She was good today
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cool thanks
john
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Pretty dry and good temps. Very cold for August
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All good yesterday. As was Pill Box.
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Take it she is still good?
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nearly completely dry yesterday. hot and greasy (but that could've just been the holds Jim had used with his crisp hands)
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nice this eve
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cheers, had a good da there. Pill box was in good condition, slight dampness of a few holds but cold and a breeze
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any updates greatly received.
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very good today. Pill Box felt mint!
Could someone please tell me the right starting holds for Clever Beaver ss please?
Started matched on the big undercut today, dont think thats cricket?
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Matched on the low undercut when sat down itll be above your waist, don't confuse it with the huge one ;)
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Good lad keeping on top of things Ducko. Seen far too many people start with one hand out on a low right side pull or on the big undercut! :coffee:
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I confused it for the big one.. :guilty:
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Any predictions for what it'll be like this weekend?
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I predict it'll be good
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I'm wondering if it'll be ok this weekend, can any one provide an update on conditions?
cheers
John
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Was as good as it gets today
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any one been day today??
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Cave doing good
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Bit of a vague question sorry but is the cave usually dry in early November...
Cheers
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Bit of a vague question sorry but is the cave usually dry in early November...
Cheers
Impossible to predict! Can be bone dry or soaked depending on rainfall
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Ok cheers. Thought that would be the answer
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How's the cave looking for this weekend?
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it was ok apart from a bit of seepage two days ago, had a bit of rain since then but should hold out providing there isnt loads more water droppage.
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Popped in the other day bit of seepage but not bad
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Saturday was pretty bad in the cave, most things wet. Today lunchtime was better, still some dampness on Lou ferrino near the pockets. RA dry apart from damp heel. Beavers wet. Jug below lip service wet. Left wall fine.
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Anyone know how the cave is at the moment?
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Not too bad today, take a towel
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take a towel
Hmm. Might stay local on that report!
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Was halfway dry?
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Ye most things are dry, just useful to have a towel
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Orme shut on Saturday for Cambrian ralley
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Ye most things are dry, just useful to have a towel
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I forgot to towel a foothold today and as i approached it right at the end i could see it was wet. there was nothing i could do, i knew my toe would never stick and it didn't. What a towel!
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Shit, there goes Saturday's plan :( looking forward to a first visit since April!
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I can't believe you've not been to the cave since April Ricky!? What gives? Place will fall down without you propping it up!
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was wet in all the wrong places today!!
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T'was well grim today.
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looking forward to a first visit since April!
Laura's obviously a good influence on you. Well done for getting over your terrible, debilitating addiction to the cave.
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If anyone visits today can we get an update please!
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Went yesterday and it was totally soaked. Condensation all over every inch of rock all the way to the back! Same situation at pill box. :thumbsdown:
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Damn it, hope it clears up for tomorrow.. Some how, ta!
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Makes me feel better bout not being able to go
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I suggest you try senokot for that problem chris
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Was ok today mainly
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Being a fatty I pulled off the starting undercut on the new RA low link..
I have left it there if people want it back on good news it still goes just a touch harder pulling on
Also cave us in good con'
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Did it again yesterday, doesn't make it much harder
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Have you done it in your trabs yet?
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Nah, didnt think it would make any difference to the grade so just left my rock boots on :whistle:
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Holding up ok. I've got the Hatch start undercut and will glue it back on
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All good yesterday.
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Anyone Orme based today? How's it looking over there, are the crags dry or just the cave?
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Cave was good yesterday apparently it's wet today so crags are likely a no go
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Anyone been since weekend? Forecasts all say high humidity - wondering if it's condensed or if it's ok?
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was ok yesterday, a few wet bits but what was dry was in good nick, depends what you want to try
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Any recent updates appreciated. May head that way tomorrow.
Cheers
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Managed to wash my hands from the stream of water from the roof today, left wall and the lines in the middle were dry but the lip was soaked. Looked like it was only going to get worse with the torrential rain there today.
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Still sounds better than my day sat in a broken down car in tesco car park for several hours awaiting a mechanic!
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oh dear!
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Just seen these pictures, blimey!!
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/multimedia/news/2012/11/22/north-wales-hit-by-flooding-after-heavy-rain-and-high-winds-55578-32287745/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/multimedia/news/2012/11/22/north-wales-hit-by-flooding-after-heavy-rain-and-high-winds-55578-32287745/)
:jaw:
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well thats Saturdays plan out the window! Unless I borrow a kayak from the uni club...
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Pretty fucked yesterday. I know Kingy climbed in there briefly, but looked utterly grim to me.
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Cave Life was dry altho LWT was wet at the end. RA was driable if you had enough psyche.
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Any updates?
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Plenty climb able
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Any updates? Ta
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Went yesterday (Wed), a bit of wetness about (especially on the lip - i guess it rained tues night?) but lots climbable. All the LW stuff, rockatrocity etc all good, bit of wet on ferrino. Stuff to the right not so good.
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If anyone's going over from Sheff at the weekend please let me know!
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What's it like there atm? thinking of chancing it tomorrow.
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Any updates? Particularly interested in Lou Ferrino.
Thanks
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As above, any updates appreciated. Mostly interested in RA and LW/LWH.
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Rock Atrocity was dry apart from the lh pinch near the end but was dryable, most of lou ferino looked dry though didnt look at the lh sidepull lower down. left wall was dry apart from that flat hold about halfway which seemed to be made of white sludge. left wall high was mostly dry but piss wrapped towards the end. This was on Sunday.
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Cheers, dont think its rained since then so should be fine.
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Jolly dry yesterday (though nippy!). Sadly looks like Friday's rain might fuck it for the weekend. Would love to hear if anybody with better cave knowledge has a more positive prediction!
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Big temp rise today so it'll be rubbish.
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Anyone go today? guessing its fucked but hope springs eternalg
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Totally fucked I was told
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More moisture than a whores snatch
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Very eloquently put
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Fairly big difference in dew point/air temp. Does anyone know how the cave is today?
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More moisture than a whores snatch
I would take this as ambiguous as I have always imagined that they would be pretty dry....
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It wasn't actually as bad as i thought it might be, and wasn't too much of a wasted journey.
Most things were damp, but hatch start, cave life traverse & left wall were dry enough. Things were improving as the afternoon went on too.
Fingers crossed for no further temp rises and/or rainstorms.
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any improvement at all? predictions for pill box conditions for wednesday too anyone?
cheers
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Drove past yesterday and looked reasonable. Pill box is pretty reliable but can be too cold in winter if its really windy.
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Has anyone been recently, hows is the cave looking? Will it be worth the drive across this weekend?
cheers
John
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Was in there on boxing day. Pretty gop. RA and its extensions was just about dry but the pinch was getting wet by 3ish and everything else was wet and getting even wetter. Although LWT was dry up until the end.
Hope this helps
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It rains every day so i wouldn't be too hopeful
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Anyone been recently? Thanks.
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Any word?
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Doing ok apparently x
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Anyone been recently? Cheers.
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Very dry
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In perfect nick today! Didn't help me climb any better though.
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The chip foothold that you use to get the flake on RA has come off. It's also the starting right hand for Louis Armstrong. It ll get glued back on. If you're a midget with no intention of trying LA this wont affect you.
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:ohmy:
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Be interested in an update if anyone goes today, cheers.
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Dry and windy - it'll be fine. Was perfect on Thursday morning. RA without the foothold is harder. I did it using a smear on the right of the scar, thought it quite stern!
Tommy is gluing it back on tomorrow, so no touchy till Monday.
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Surely it would have gopped out with the temps. Will recover quick though
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You all go on about that. I think it sometimes affects the cave big t e, but not always.
There was a fair few days over Crimble I thought the same - I was there a lot, and only one day was a complete bag of the proverbial.
Should be mint tomorrow, despite the odd shower today. Nice temp, and really windy!
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Happens more often than not
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Was nice on sat. Some runoff on the lip, but nearly everything else pretty good. Would appreciate updates if anyone goes this week.
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I thought conditions were pretty shit on Saturday when I was there midday. Can't see it being great this week with all this rain.
RA is definitely harder going for the flake minus the foothold...should leave it off and just get stronger.
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3-9 means sun. Most stuff was dryable. Foothold is back on (thanks Doyle n Tommy(?))
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Thinking of heading to the cave on Friday. Anyone know what condition its in? Thanks
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Anyone been? Any predictions for Lou F being dryable would be very welcome.
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Anyone care to predict if Lou Ferrino might be dry (or dryable) Monday & Tuesday?
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Any thoughts on conditions Thurs/Fri with all this crappy weather or is it a wasted journey. Possibly coming up from Bristol.
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Well it been pissing it down all day so far with more rain/snow forcast.
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Was pretty screwed Saturday morning. Guess it will be improving every day with current weather. I'd be interested in an update if anyone drops in this week.
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Anyone been down recently? Interested to know if Lou Ferrino might be dry/dryable on Sunday.
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I went and had a lamplight session last night. Lou ferrino was completely dry. Friction was a bit cold and glassy, but should be worth a visit tomorrow
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It's a toss up been the Cave and Raven Tor for tomorrow. :-\
Anyone been down in the last day or so? Interested in Left Wall Traverse and Clever Beaver.
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Was there today, pretty much everything was dry and in good condition.
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Hows the cave getting on as of late? Heading there saturday so any info would be great
cheers
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Was pretty dry on Tuesday night. Will update again if I go before Saturday.
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Some bits of seepage yesterday but overall nothing too bad
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cheers for the replies. Doesn't seem any big changes in the temp or humidity so hoping it will be fine.
Particularly interested in Trigger Cut and Broken Heart or whatever it is. Are these prone to wetness?
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They're pretty dry. Depends which exit on BH
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Any updates? :) would appreciate it.
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The road is shut today , I think due to a snowdrift on the road on the back of the Orme. You could still park in town and walk to the Cave
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:) cheers. was there monday and tuesday all was good. Low holds on Lou Ferrino where a bit wet but everything else was good.
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Guessing it will be staying fine for friday? no big changes in the weather and no snow to stop me getting there!
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All good I hear
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Anyone been down lately thinking of a trip
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Any conditions reports from today??
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:wave:
has anyone been in today?
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was there yesterday, dry as a bone................i'd almost go as far as to say its too dry...........
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thanks
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Any updates? Hoping to come over from London on Sat.
Thanks
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Every inch of rock was dry yesterday. I reckon you should be fine unless we get weird temperature inversions in the meantime.
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Thanks very much, I've got a date with Lou (quite likely to be some spousal abuse too).
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Can anyone give me an update on conditions in the cave? Particularly LF and low start to RA. Hoping to go sun, so ny updates before then would be great thanks
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Still pretty dry in there including the low starts to r.a. and Lou ferrino. Have fun tomorrow :thumbsup:
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Anyone know if it's dry today? It's tippin' it down out there...
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Anyone know if it's dry today? It's tippin' it down out there...
Will take a lot of wet weather to get it wet now
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Anyone know if it's dry today? It's tippin' it down out there...
Will take a lot of wet weather to get it wet now
Cheers Doylo, psyched!
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Nice today, dry and also cool once the rain came.
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Nice today, dry and also cool once the rain came.
Was damn cold in there around 7pm! Bone dry though.
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Anyone know how it is now, and predictions for wednesday thursday
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Anyone know how it is now, and predictions for wednesday thursday
The later the better for good conditions. is hot!
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The drives shut until 6.30 on Saturday.
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Can you still park in the town, and then walk into and climb at the cave? Or is access closed until 6.30. And is that 6.30pm?
cheers
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PM yes. No it's shut for pedestrians too
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Will this affect LTP too? I'm guessing so...
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You'll probably be able to walk along the beach from close to the pier.
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Does this mean there is no way of getting to the top orme car park? Was hoping to go to Craig Y Farcell as a last hope kind of venue
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You'll probably be able to walk along the beach from close to the pier.
Cheers, will do that instead then!
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Does this mean there is no way of getting to the top orme car park? Was hoping to go to Craig Y Farcell as a last hope kind of venue
You'll be fine getting to the summit car park if that's what you mean? It's just the marine drive
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Ah cheers, forgot about the other road up to it :oops:
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I assume it is open on Sunday , don't fancy a 2 hr drive to find it closed
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Just Saturday for the triathlon
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super thank you,
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This probably isn't the correct place for this question but those with the most knowledge of the cave will probably see it here...
Will be in N.Wales for a week in July planning to climb in the Cave, LPT & the Pass. Is it OK to sleep in the cave/ anywhere near? Don't want to cause issues for climbers but do want to get my head down somewhere close to the climbing....
Thanks in advance for any advice/help with this.
Grant
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Officially there's no overnight camping but as long as you don't put a tent up it should be ok. It might be a bit nicer up by Normans Wisdom (under the big arch a bit further along)
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Thanks very much, we'll have a look at Normans. Hope the weather holds.
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Whats it like at the moment? Dry?
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how are conditions looking at the moment?
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Keen to know too.. May be the only viable place in the west on Saturday given the forecast :(
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my thought exactly!
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Didnt go in to parisellas, but llanduno has been v hot and sunny today and lpt rock was perfect once the shade came around, rain from last night all burnt off. May help if you have some local knowledge?
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yeah all dry today
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Totally dry yesterday. Nice conditions later on as well with a good breeze.
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Hey Guys,
Lots of heavy rain on friday/saturday/sunday... will the cave be dry and sheltered for a session on saturday evening??
What about split infinity cave?? Pill box wall??
Cheers
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Now then.
Has anyone been in the last couple of days? Has it gopped out/condensed/seeped much? Mainly concerned with the Lou f ramp and finger rail half way along it.
Thanks
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Ferrino footless the next big project ? ;)
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Haha! As big a king line as LFF is, I need to get back on Louis instead of avoiding it!
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Just to let people know it was all dry in there today and even the sun came out making it a bit warm/sweaty. Should be in top nick later once the sun is off it.
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Any predictions for the conditions this weekend?
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no predictions (as I've not seen the forecast) - but it was all dry yesterday.
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Anyone know what it is like after the rain we have had over the last few days?
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Second hand info but apparently it was dry today.
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It was dry but greasy yesterday (Saturday 5th)
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any predictions on the cave conditions for tomorrow :-)
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I've just seen that there is a car rally in Llandudno on Saturday 19th, does anyone know if the cave is still accessible on Saturday and Sunday?
Cheers John
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Probably not in that case
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Oh - is that both days?
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It'll only be shit on the day of the rally. I'll go and check later
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Cheers for the updates. I just checked The rally is in Saturday
http://www.cambrianrally.co.uk (http://www.cambrianrally.co.uk)
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That's a twat, I was hoping to climb there Saturday
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Anyone know if The cave has suffered from seepage or condensation in the last couple of days?
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It was a bit seepagy on Sunday but not too bad, not sure exactly which bits as it was my first visit and I'm not so sure of all the routes etc. The start of Lou Ferrino was def damp, (not that I was trying it).
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It's literally been dry all year but it's raining every day at the mo so she gonna get wet
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So she will be buggered for next week?
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Gonna be wet holds and dry holds
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On Sunday the finishing rib of rock atrocity, the first few holds on Louis Armstrong, the second l side pull and rail on ferrino, most of broken heart and crucial times were all wet, with a few other drip points throughout the cave.
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More importantly, did she get the tick?
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Pinged off the last move.
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Popped in for a play yesterday afternoon. Most stuff is dry apart from clever beaver, crucial, Lou ferrino 2nd sidepull, end of left wall high, undercut pinch shared by Rockatrocity and Armstrong and the first left undercut on Armstrong was a bit damp too.
Hopefully it won't piss down every day or warm up by the weekend!
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Not perfect but Cave life, Highlife, RA, Clever Beaver and Left Wall all dry. A few drips here and there and streaks but basically sound.
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Road shut tomorrow and I think 16th/17th
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Yep shut this weekend
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Any walk in access to the cave?
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Don't think so no.
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Mediocre today, cave life/ RA OK and Lou dryable but LWH finish stubbornly wet. Box condensed out
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If it pisses it down with rain tomorrow morning will the cave most likely remain dry, or will it just be a waste of time?
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The temperature and moisture has been all over the place lately, anyone been the cave lately or know how it is? I'm guessing that both seepage and condensation could be prevalent but who knows, the Orme is a fickle mistress.
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Can't believe how dry it is in here! B.O.N.E. And empty...
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Good knowledge Chris, thanks. Oh and that was good curry beta the other week too. We both enjoyed our meal at that Bengal place.
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I know about Llandudno eating establishments . I've had my money drained by women in most of them. Couldn't believe how dry the Orme is for December. All the routes in Pigeons were climbable and warm enough too.
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Wow, that's brilliant. May be down on the Orme tomorrow then, although it looks pretty good to the east so may try yorks grit. See you soon .
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Did anyone go today? Thinking of popping down tomorrow/Monday.
Has it condensed/seeped much?
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Still pretty good but will probably have more wet holds soon.
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There yesterday and what was dry was good but there was lots of seepage / drips generally. All of Left Wall was dry except for some of the flat edges e.g. above the flake but these were dryable. Arch was bone dry, Rockatrocity dry too apart from pinch. Lou Ferrino rail and 2nd pocket/side pull on left were wet . Didn't look at much else, lots of drainage coming down onto Cave lip from above.
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Anybody been in the last few days, what's the conditions like?
cheers
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Looked in tonight with torches, there was lots of seepage and drips. Left Wall seemed dry. RA dry apart from pinch. Lou Ferrino rail and 2nd side pull on left were wet possibly dryable . Lots of wetness on right wall area. Didn't look at much else. More rain forecast tonight so not sure on how long this state will last. May be back there tomorrow so will check conditions again.
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Condensed and wetness, not much dry this morning! May improve, or may not!
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was there yesterday 11-3 and was ok, same as above (without the condensation) did lou ferrino, rail was easily dryable and the 2nd sidepull had to do before every attempt (but was doing a different sequence so only used it as an intermediate)
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As of 9 oclock this morning, the cave looked dead. About 4 dry holds in total. :wavecry:
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Looks like I Chose the ideal weather window to fuck up my knee then.. Silver linings and all that! :2thumbsup:
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Everything pretty much climbable today
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Road shut due to rockfall. Potentially open again tomorrow afternoon.
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Still shut at present
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Still shut at present
Fuck... what are the Scouse boulderers going to do this weekend? They might even have to climb somewhere else... Oh no, they'll just go and do some campusing.
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Might be open later, I'll post if so
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I heard it fell down...
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Big block off top of Mayfair Wall, glad it didn't cave my head in whilst bolting
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would be ironic considering the massive lumps you've ripped off that wall in recent times
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They shut the whole drive off for 2 days because of one block...?
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They have to make sure the area the rock came from is stable. Apparently it should be open tomorrow.
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Any word on access? Is the Cave dry at the moment?
Cheers
Steve
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She was open today and about 2/3 dry
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Nice one Chris - cheers
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Chadders should fit in well round here these days. Has he got walking stick yet? :P
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Anyone know if the cave (or large parts of it) will be dry this weekend?
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Large parts of it certainly dry.
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Great - thanks Chris
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Went today. Left Wall dry apart from the finishing holds on LWH. All the stuff at the back dry. LF and everything on the right side was dripping wet.
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What's the weather looking like tomo windy?
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Was good in the old haunt today can see it being better tomo as the wind was drying it nicely
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You still manage RA?
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Eye pal lol
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Hi guys,
I was wondering if anyone has been to Parisella's recently or would be able to tell me if it's likely to be dry this weekend? If it's seeping, which parts are dry?
Also, does anyone have a link to a more definitive topo than the one in Boulder Britain?
Cheers
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It's doing ok at the mo. Wet hold on Lou Ferrino, some wetness on the right wall. This is the definitive topo http://www.needlesports.com/Catalogue/Books-Maps-DVDs/British-Guidebooks/Welsh-Guidebooks/Welsh-Climbing-Guidebooks---North-Mid-Wales/Parisellas-Cave-2009-COR-CW039#.UvC7PXggHCQ (http://www.needlesports.com/Catalogue/Books-Maps-DVDs/British-Guidebooks/Welsh-Guidebooks/Welsh-Climbing-Guidebooks---North-Mid-Wales/Parisellas-Cave-2009-COR-CW039#.UvC7PXggHCQ)
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Was in the cave today, it was pretty sopping. LWT is dry, as is Rock Atrocity and most of Parisella's Original. Apart from that most other problems are dripping from seepage currently.
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Anyone been today or tomo?? How' it looking?
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Bit drippy. Usual suspects seeping
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Looking at today's forecast and tomo looks grim chances of it staying dry for weekend?
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What holds do you want to know about? It's been pretty much the same since December
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Cheers chris mate wanted the right side area I was looking a the r.a linkage
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Cheers chris mate wanted the right side area I was looking a the r.a linkage
Can't see anything on the right being dry. Weather is supposed to get even worse later so will only add to the seepage...
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Cheers chris mate wanted the right side area I was looking a the r.a linkage
You doing the big link now?? :o
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One day pal looking grim ere think snake will be closed bloody weather :wall:
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Mostly dry today, a few wet holds over the right hand side, around right wall traverse, also the crescent hold and first drilled pocket on Lou, Rockatrocity completely dry, everything below there completely dry. Oddly the second half of left wall was absolutely gopping.
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Was there yesterday. LWT dry, some higher holds looked wet. Standard second hold on ferrino wet. Right wall had wet patches but were slowly, slowly drying up throughout the day
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Just got back from a lantern lit session, everything's mint, very few wet holds, what there is is super easy to dry and i managed The wobbly block start to Rock Atrocity, the first time in years that my fingers haven't been too perma-fucked to try :D
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Just got back from a lantern lit session, everything's mint, very few wet holds, what there is is super easy to dry and i managed The wobbly block start to Rock Atrocity, the first time in years that my fingers haven't been too perma-fucked to try :D
Good effort! Conditions were great in there today!
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What are the chances of the cave being bone dry and amazing conditions this morning? Especially after this mornings rubbish weather..... If no one knows ill go find out and post up.... Cheers
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If anyone goes cave today could you report on its dryness please. Thanks
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Hardly rained for weeks Turnip, is sound
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Any chance of good conditions tomorrow?
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Any chance of good conditions tomorrow?
I was in there last night. Seepage on footholds around Beaver Cleaver.
Everything else dry. Good weather today, should be fine tomorrow.
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does anyone know how the cave is looking after all the rain any seepage. Is it worth the 2 hour drive tomorrow?
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Is coming through a bit but was still fine last night.
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Anyone know how the cave is looking at the moment?
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It was seeping a bit on Sunday.
In order Alex; the 2nd left hand sidepull was wet, The finger rail/Rockatrocity foothold was wet but fixable with towels&chalk. The right hand pocket you stab to off the undercut was starting to get wet, so could be worse now. Clever beaver was very wet, but beaver cleaver & lip service were fine.
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Thanks Richie. Think I'll sack it off for today then - long drive for a wet
Problem! Any updates appreciated
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Ahhh the Cave was bone dry a week ago and now the British summers arrived :'(
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I'm working in Wales Weds/Thurs and would appreciate any updates, specifically on whether holds on Lou Ferrino are dry - thanks!
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Lou Ferrino was totally wet yesterday, parts of left wall were wet (but still climbable). Left wall high was gopppppping (but was climbed yesterday). Rock atrocity and Cave Life were dry including all the array of different places to start them! Broken heart was dry (if climbed into that horrible 7a+ with the upside down foot thing). Trigger Cut was dry as was Halfway house!
Most stuff on the right was very wet, but it looked like it was drying back.
For others interested, the Gop was also totally soaked, definitely seepage not blown.
Have fun!
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thanks :'(
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A little bit better today but that 2nd side pull being wet is a pain for LF. It's easy to dry the rail
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Looking at heading to the cave tomorrow. Any reports on seepage would be helpful, particularly on lou ferrigno and hatchatrocity. Thanks.
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It was better today than on Sunday. All the low links into Rockatrocity and left wall were fine. Lou f looked better too, although I didn't check the 2nd left hand... This is usually fixable with towels and chalk though. Clever beaver dry again. Louis A dry with a bit of maintenance required on the first lh undercut.
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Mawson said the 2nd side pull was only a bit damp
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Does anyone have any info for the weekend? Thinking Pit of Hell or The Wire...
Cheers
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It's dry but the roads shut until 6 on Saturday
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Cheers Doylo
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Might be heading down tomorrow, what's the seepage like at the minute? Thanks.
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It's dry but the roads shut until 6 on Saturday
So this must mean you can't drive up there..but does it mean you can't walk to the cave as well??
Ta.
Stephen
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It's dry but the roads shut until 6 on Saturday
So this must mean you can't drive up there..but does it mean you can't walk to the cave as well??
Ta.
Stephen
This was last Saturday
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It's dry but the roads shut until 6 on Saturday
So this must mean you can't drive up there..but does it mean you can't walk to the cave as well??
Ta.
Stephen
This was last Saturday
Doh! :wall: thanks for pointing out my stupidity!
Steve
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The roads shut on Sunday until 3pm for the sea triathlon
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The roads shut on Sunday until 3pm for the sea triathlon
Is climbing still allowed on the routes above the drive if the road is shut?
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Yes (afaik). The 'no climbing before 6pm' restriction only applies during bank holidays and the school summer hols (July 15th ish - September 8th ish).
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I dunno they're gonna be running along the road.
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Less chance of hitting them then?
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what are conditions looking like atm? dry enough for a session on Monday? Cheers
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Im not a regular so don't really know what 'good' is at parisellas, but ive been twice this week including yesterday and it was all dry, just really hot
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What are the chances the cave will be ok tomorrow?
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Depends what you mean by ok. It won't be wet but it won't be prime conditions.
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Depends what you mean by ok. It won't be wet but it won't be prime conditions.
Too much spattered blood?
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Seemed grippy today. Not that I climbed on it or know what I'm talking about. No one else here which seemed surprising
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The drives shut (until Wednesday at least) because of rockfall.
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is the cave likely to be dry on Monday/Tuesday after heavy rain forcast on sunday? thinking of driving up.
Same queston for the GOP as well if anyone knows how that dries up?
Thanks
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One day of rain won't do much to either .
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Ok thanks Doylo
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Has the Marine Drive been opened up to Drive on yet?
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It was open tues and weds and bone dry but humid.
I think I drove past a sign on weds saying its closed on Sunday 3rd but my memory could be playing tricks.
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Closed for a few hours on 7th august, sorry not the 3rd
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What's seepage like in the cave at the moment? Looking at heading down tomorrow but know it's rained a lot over the weekend and past few days. Thanks.
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The drive is shut til 4 tomorrow for the Tour of Britain.
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Anyone know how cave was today? Looks huimid/moderate vis on forecast, wondering if it's worth the journey or not...
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Think the road was shut today so doubt they'll be any reports. Wasn't too humid in Dudno.
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Oh right, bbc says 95% odd there at the moment.. Decisions decisions.. Maybe you're just hacking their site to keep me away :tease: Road open again midweek I presume?
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Was only shut for the day. I'm not trying to keep you away, the damage has been done, lanking LA off the massive undercut will only add insult to injury ;)
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How can you sleep at night avoiding the best move?! ;)
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Any recent reports? Think we're heading over on Saturday...
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Popping down later today, let me know if there's anything in particular you need Connie's for.
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Bit damp by most stuff climbable still. Crucial times was soaked, the first lh undercut on Louis was getting wetter. Water was about to start affecting the fingerrail on Lou ferrino and the pocket on broken heart needed towelling to be in good nick.
All the low stuff was and r.a. Were ok. Clever beaver and the other lip problems were all dry.
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Thanks a lot for the update, there should be enough for us to try tomorrow then!
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How was it today? Considering coming over tomorrow.
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Fairly good today. 1st left hand side pull/undercut on Lou ferrino very slightly seeping and broken heart pocket a bit damp but both drivable and everything else good.
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Nice work on The Wire mate.
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Cheers kelvin. Maybe see you next week in Northampton if you're around. Setting boulder room Monday Tuesday.
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I'll be down Monday evening for sure, probably from late afternoon. Crimpy V4 on the 10deg please mate and not using that daft yellow football hold or the aretes :great:
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is it seeping yet?
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Any dryness?
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A lot of stuff still dry in the cave today. Rock Atrocity all dry. Lou Ferrino looked dry apart from one hold. Left Wall Traverse dry. Beaver problems and problems to the right had the odd damp patch but not enough to affect them.
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If anyone makes it to the cave today I'd appreciate an update as it was Andy 1 Parisella's 1 yesterday so I may head back tomorrow.
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Hows she looking today?
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Thinking of going in a few days time - Has anybody been today, or goes tomorrow, can they report on conditions please?
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Anyone been to the cave of late? Wondering what sort of nick it might be in this weekend?
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Was there today left wall dry rock attro dry one hold on lou wet, right side mostly wet but the wind had picked up nicely so could be bone by weekend, On a different note every time I go back the holds have changed either got bigger or broken mainly on the right side, is this excessive brushing or traffic?
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Anyone know how it is in there?
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End of left wall high wet. RA dry. LF rail wet but dryable, 2nd sidepull wet. Right side quite dry except for low starts
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Anyone been recently?
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Any updates? Thinking of Sunday.
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Just walked past the Cave and was surprised how well it's holding up.
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Anyone know how it is?
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Any ideas what RA into trigger cut is called/gets? Also anyone know if trigger cut is dry?
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Don't think it's been done, been meaning to try it but not got around to it. I'd guess at hard 8A+ with full knees (but not using the knee rest out right on wire/pilgrimage)or hard 8B as an elim? Bit harder than Director's cut either way.
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Might not be too helpful, cos i don't know where many things go... But, i was there on Wednesday.
All of Left Wall Traverse dry. Rock Attrocity looked dry as far as i could tell. Stuff on the right wetter, Clever Beaver etc. Crimp Rail on Lou Ferrino wet + other random wet bits. Although, NYD weather was horrible, so this is probably all out of date...
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Anyone been lately? ?
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was there today, the usual seepage around, right hand side is suffering a bit more than the rest
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Drove past today and couldn't believe how dry it was.
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Damp in places but mostly dry yesterday. End of LWH a bit damp, LWT dry, Right wall was seeping in places.
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Mint today, no wind, pretty dry for time of year
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Going to Tremadog for the weekend and thinking of setting off early tomorrow so we could check out the cave on the way over, I've never been before.
Does anyone know if it'll be in good nick?
Or more specifically, will Rock Atrocity be climbable?
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I reckon it will nearly all be dry, just cold of the wind is whipping about!
Rockatrocity will be fine.
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Just in case anyone wants to know I am stood in cloud at fox house. Looking grim. Beginning to wonder if I should ever leave the sanctuary of the south peak ever again!
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Just in case anyone wants to know I am stood in cloud at fox house. Looking grim. Beginning to wonder if I should ever leave the sanctuary of the south peak ever again!
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That's nice, but is the cave dry today?
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Hard to say from up on the hill in glan Conwy... But I can't even see the usually clear and visible orme from here! Everywhere is sat in claggy misty cloud but no rain as of yet. The sun is up and trying to burn through, so things may improve.
Currently torn between going to check out queens ferry wall or chance the cave :-\
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Cave was mint today busy
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Anyone been recently? Is the Arch and Louis armstrong in good nick?
Cheers Tommy
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Fine on sun
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Was in good nick today. Don't recall any seepage
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What time does the muscle at the gateway to the marine drive clock off?
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Prob about 6 this time of year. Maybe earlier .
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Cheers ears
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Anyone know how it's looking? I might end up there on Sunday looking at the weather for the mountains.
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Why don't you just look at the weather for the mountains on the internet? Save you a drive
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I have done but I am there working on Saturday so might as well try and climb around there on Sunday.
Get back to your sunbathing!
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It was very dry but judging by Manor crag it might have started seeping a bit more. Might end up there tomorrow.
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If anyone goes today can you post how it is please? I promise not to kneebar anything
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Can you put this on the same vid as Pete locking off pls :kiss2:
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Fair bit wetter today but can't have been that bad as there was about 10 000 people in there.
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Just saw Twyford's pic on FB. Not sure I want to go anymore if it'll be that busy!!
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Unlikely to be that busy again.
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Do you know if Lou Ferrino is dry?
Although heavy rain is forecast tonight.
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You had to towel the 2nd hold and the rail today.
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Looked like hell today from that Facebook photo! Glad I was working :ohmy:
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Dry and glowing again today (and quiet!).
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Almost all dry, just a bit of wetness on rhs around crucial times etc.
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Whoevers trying to stop the flow of seepage with chunks of bogroll please stop or at least take it home with you when you're finished. Littering :rtfm:
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Has there been any more seepage?
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What's the likelihood or things being dry tomorrow? :please:
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Was condensed today with temp increase but would expect it to have recovered by tomorrow.
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That was quick. Thanks!
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Anyone know if the cave will be dry for tomorrow or sunday? :please:
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Actually don't worry - heard it's soaking today! But might get better.
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Rockatrocity, Hatch Life, Cave Life all dry. Not perfect connies but climbable. It was pretty damp right into the back in the early avo but dried back as the breeze picked up. Stuff further right still wet but looks to be mainly dampness from the rain rather than seepage.
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Some shady characters in the Cave today...
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Does anyone know how the Cave is at the moment? Thinking of heading over tomorrow for a :spank:
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It might be a wet spanking judging by the weather.
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A few wet holds on the problems near the entrance but everything else was dry today.
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Quite a few wet patches today. LF rail wet. Left wall high final crimp wet but sidepull method dry. Lots wet at the front on the right.
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Bah, you win this round, cave.
As you win most rounds :'(
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Anyone know current cons? Specifically Lou Ferrino. Ta.
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The second left sidepull was weirdly damp yesterday but the rest was ok.
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Ta. Yeah same again today. Could've dried it if I had been ars*d but plenty else to beast myself on ;D
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Any updates?
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Anyone been today?
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Was v dry yesterday apart from jugs on the right. V fresh and breezy today as we left N Wales midday.
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Any updates?
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Planning on heading to the cave tomorrow afternoon for the first time and possibly again over weekend (if i don't get too spanked), wondering if anyone can shed any light on likely conditions?
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Easy.
Any word on conditions at the cave? Headed this eve if something is dryish.
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We've got the kegs of beer to get through. Don't be late.
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Had a shockingly weak return there today after nearly 2 months break. :weakbench:
It's really dry in there at the moment despite it still being humid and warm.... And it cooled down later to give good connies. No midges either.
Just need to learn how to pull hard and climb now :whip:
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Conditions were fine all day you big :shit:
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The road's shut on Saturday.
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All pretty soaking today. Found out the hard way. Punter!
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That's weird, it shouldn't get so wet after a bit of rain following such a dry spell. Condensation?
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Parts looked like it could have been condensation but other parts i'd say are seepage, wet patches have appeared on the floor which surely wouldn't be solely from condensation? Decided Pilgrim had far too many holds to dry, but didn't want to waste the drive so opted for something shorter in the end.
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Pilgrim doesn't seep barring the last couple of holds on RA so it would have been condensation. Probably be ok again tomorrow.
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Sounds right thinking about it, i guess if it was seepage it'd be isolated areas rather than seemingly everything. Surprised just how wet everything was though. Wasn't that much warmer today either, was it? Thanks for the info anyway.
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No it would usually occur with a temp increase but a minging goppy day can turn her black too.
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Whilst i'm on, hoping i can pester you with one more thing and clog peoples twitter feeds a little more. As a relative newcomer to the cave I'm guessing you are the man to ask. Do you know if anyone has climbed Pilgrim into Oppotrocity? Care to guess at a grade? Cheers
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I reckon solid 8A+ for that link as pilgrim is 8A/+ and oppotrocity more like 7C+ than 8A?
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Yeah i had thought that myself. Not hard enough for 8B but a very solid 8A+. Not that i'd have anything to compare it to at all. Got the name for it, just got to get fitter/stronger... or both!
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Worth a go for sure, it's all stuff that stays climbable unless condensed out. Keen to get some stuff done in the hills before being reacquainted with the cave. I'm sure the weather will be shit soon enough!
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If you're a newcomer to the cave there are much better things to do than pilgrim into oppotrocity!
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Yeah you're dead right, i've still tonnes to go at. Getting a bit carried away.
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If you're a newcomer to the cave there are much better things to do than pilgrim into oppotrocity!
Like Pilgrim? ;)
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Prime again today (LPT looked good too). I was thinking if you're going to do Pilgrim in Oppotrocity surely the whole thing should be climbed wrong handed :-\ Climbing half a problem into an eliminate seems more daft!
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If you're a newcomer to the cave there are much better things to do than pilgrim into oppotrocity!
Like Pilgrim? ;)
For starters yeah!
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Yeah for sure, that is what i went to do yesterday, just was a little pushed for time and it felt like too many holds to start drying.
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Was there today, was all pukka. Few drips kicking around but not on the likes of ferrino, left wall, RA, clever beaver and many more :great:
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Has anyone been recently? Mainly interested in Rock Atrocity and it's lower starts. Was hoping to go at the weekend but forecast is grim!
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Ditto. In a desperate bid to climb on rock I am willing to even go to the cave of goat poo. Is it worth it? Have done left wall so the high may be a goer as I'm better than before. Any news on condensation/seepage?
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Ditto. In a desperate bid to climb on rock I am willing to even go to the cave of goat poo. Is it worth it? Have done left wall so the high may be a goer as I'm better than before. Any news on condensation/seepage?
I reckon you could do RA Dunc, give it a try.
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Great Orme is close tomorrow for a special stage of the GB Rally.
Conditions wise, it started alright with less seepage than last weekend, but condensed out badly by 3pm.
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Sounds like she's holding up ok so far.
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Is it still accessible with the rally on?
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Is it still accessible with the rally on?
Sadly not
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A lot of wet stuff today but RA, its lower starts and most of left wall (bar the high stuff) are dry. Plenty of tissues left behind stuffed in holds though!
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People need to take those tissues home when they leave.
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All totally soaking today.... Tissue and chalk plugs removed though.
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How's the old girl holding up at the moment?
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Damp in the normal places, but not hideously so.
What you interested in?
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Not sure really......mostly left wall and RA. Thank you
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LW dry.
LWH doable with the low sidepull method.
RA mostly dry; the pinch and crimp rail on LF dry-able.
As an aside - what's going on with the second roof sidepull on LF? It seems to be permanently seeping of late - proper gushing.
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Cheers :thumbsup:
As an aside - what's going on with the second roof sidepull on LF? It seems to be permanently seeping of late - proper gushing.
I guess it's the cave biting back at lanky people taking 7c+ for using kneebars
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I got the LF knee beta via Twyford n she had it from Caff I believe.. No shorties excuses
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The 2nd left side pull on LF is quite a wet hold. It's just easy to forget in Summer ...
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I got the LF knee beta via Twyford n she had it from Caff I believe.. No shorties excuses
Well seeing as Ally and I were talking about about Trigger Cut and not LF then wtf are you talking about?
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BTW I'm 5ft 4 (on a good day) :thumbsdown:
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It looks like you were talking about Lou to be fair. Trigger is 7b+ with kneebars anyway.
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Fair enough
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Ally was talking about LF, hence his post referring to LF and not mentioning TC... If you were talking about TC you'd be the only one who'd know that :lol:
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Fair enough
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The roads shut for cars. Don't know why.
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There was a rockfall on the west coast. Some pretty big chunks of rock caught in the netting. The local residents have just pushed the stuff out of the way and seem happy to be driving under it. Couple of cars were driving the wrong way back from the B+B and cafe. Seemed a bit sketchy with all the cyclists using the road on Boxing Day.
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Suspected it must be a rockfall, hardly surprising given the amount of rain.
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Anyone been this week? How is it? Cheers
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I walked past on Monday? and there was fun to be had.
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I walked past on Monday? and there was fun to be had.
Game on! Cheers, I'm going tomorrow if you're keen
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Roll on cave season
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It was pretty grim today but plenty to go at in there for the keen. LWT was all dry, RA was damp put dryable. Hatch start and arch were dry. LWH was all dry apart from the finish. Everything else looked gopping. Felt pretty grippy in there despite the damp.
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Anyone been recently? Wondering how feasible a trip next week might be...
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Anyone been recently? Wondering how feasible a trip next week might be...
I've been a few times over the last couple of weeks in some real bad weather, the things I've never seen unclimable are Left Wall, RA, Hatch starts and the arch. The rest of it was drying out slowly last Thursday.
I'm going this eve so I'll post an update later/tomorrow morning.
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Ace - thanks again Luke.
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It was all drying up even more yesterday eve, a lot of the seepage has gone but unfortunatly it was super greasey due to the temp going up by about 8 degrees yesterday. The usual things are dry but I think all the other stuff on the lip etc. is going to need longer to dry especially as it's raining again now.
I'm possibly going tomorrow morning, will update again then.
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I thought it would be condensed with the temp increase. Hopefully recovered by tomorrow.
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If anyone visits in the next few days can you let me know how the old girl is doing
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Definitely less seepage yesterday than a couple of weeks ago, conditions were ok but not great. Only a little greasy, but it is a bit warmer today so that may have changed.
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Sorry....I was taking about Doylo
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I'll report tomorrow
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Really good in there today.
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I was referring to you as "the old girl" :wub:
Thanks chicken
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I only masturbate to keep my prostrate healthy these days.
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Does anybody know how the cave is at the moment? Was thinking of going tomorrow morning. Mainly interested in rockatrocity and the low starts. thanks
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Anyone going today? Could you post a report? Be appreciated
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Anyone been today?
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Spoke to someone at the wall who went yesterday. Said half of it was alright.
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Pretty dry for January yesterday. All that windy stuff
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Much rain today chris? Windy? Cheers
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It has got much much warmer today (3 deg this morning, 11 this eve) so it could smeg out?
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Much rain today chris? Windy? Cheers
Drizzly all day. Windy now, if it did condense i expect it'll have recovered by tomorrow.
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Was there today, wasn't too bad when we arrived about 10, wet here and there but plenty of stuff doable. As the temps rose it got a lot worse, when we arrived left wall traverse was completely dry apart from the bit round the corner, by about half 1 it was wet nearly all the way to the start. End of rock atrocity was soaked but the rest was ok bar the odd foothold, Lou Ferrigno absolutely minging all day.
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Anyone know what the cave is like at the moment? Thinking of heading over on Sunday.
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Cappuccino condensed out scenes last night, with a whole host of seepage to boot.
Left wall was just about salvageable with towels and addition of chalk to key holds.
i.e. if you're travelling far - don't bother
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Windy and cooler tomorrow, anyone have any idea how quick the condensation might clear out?
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Condensation is usually sorted in a day. Pain these temps going up and down. Sounds like the seepage has got worse again though.
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Cheers Chris. The temperature fluctuations are a right pain, condensation is a lot harder to deal with than seepage I think. Seepage doesn't usually affect much of left wall does it?
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No Most of left stays dry. Always worth checking the temps on the forecast before planning a trip. If 4 degrees or more increase it can gop.
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No Most of left stays dry. Always worth checking the temps on the forecast before planning a trip. If 4 degrees or more increase it can gop.
I hear you are the day eyes at the back of the cave
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No Most of left stays dry. Always worth checking the temps on the forecast before planning a trip. If 4 degrees or more increase it can gop.
I hear you are the day eyes at the back of the cave
Malc liked me perving on him.
Reasonable in there today. The roads shut next Saturday .
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Any update on conditions for the coming weekend? Appreciate roads are closed on the Saturday (rally) :shrug:
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I drove past it last night and it didn't look completely wet, patches but plenty looked climbable with some keen and a towel.
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Was in good nick Wednesday but was starting to seep in places. Any reports from today or yesterday on conditions/seepage would be much appreciated!
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Went today and it was a bit wet on Lou f and broken heat. All the usual stuff was dry in the middle and left side (inc high). It was a bit humid and I fired off the pull on a few times trying last stand but it didn't condense out at any point.
It could do with being ever so slightly cooler. Lots of people walking around the Orme with big beards and little hats asking what I was doing and why I wasn't topping the cave out too
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Lots of people walking around the Orme with big beards and little hats asking what I was doing and why I wasn't topping the cave out too
"It's not Cemetery Gates"
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Went today and it was a bit wet on Lou f and broken heat. All the usual stuff was dry in the middle and left side (inc high). It was a bit humid and I fired off the pull on a few times trying last stand but it didn't condense out at any point.
It could do with being ever so slightly cooler. Lots of people walking around the Orme with big beards and little hats asking what I was doing and why I wasn't topping the cave out too
You should do Trigger into Ally's new route. Perfect f8 tick for you!
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Crouchie with a harness on 8) :tumble: :worms: :spank: :lol:
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Crouchie with a harness on 8) :tumble: :worms: :spank: :lol:
Innit! It's not proper sport climbing but a tick nonetheless
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Might siege ally's version first as I've never managed a 7c+ :boxing:
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Might flash ally's version first as I've never managed a 7c+ :boxing:
Fixed that for you, get on it beast!
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Has anyone been to the cave today or know what it's like? Going tomorrow morning, cheers
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Just got back, it was better earlier on, all of left wall and hatch starts and RA bone dry. In the avo, the clag started encroaching and the last holds of left wall became wet and a few footholds were looking a bit damp further back in the cave. Not condensed as such, just 'blowing in'. It might be alright tomorrow, depends on whether it stops pissing down
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Cheers Ted!
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Completely condensed out today, every hold in there was soaking...
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Any one been down recently?
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Was a bit condensed this morning but improved during the day. Some seepage in usual places but nothing that couldn't be dried with a rag.
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The roads shut 7-12 on Sunday.
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Anyone know what conditions were like today? Presumably bone dry?
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Bone bone dry
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Anyone know how its looking condensation-wise today? Not sure whether to risk it tomorrow...
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Looks like it was ok to climb 8B+ today so I'd imagine it'll be ok
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Nice one, was Megos on it again?
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Think the roads shut next Sunday as the Triathalon is on.
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Going tomorrow, anyone know how it's holding up? Cheers
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It was decent last night even at the back, no humidity any more and not too warm
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Cheers Ted!
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Anyone been today? Dry?
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Anyone been today?
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The Oracle said it was dry.
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Most stuff dry but the Louie sidepull was seeping. I was able to dry before each attempt though
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Anyone got a report from today??
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Pretty wet on Louie but the 2nd sidepull was just about driable. RA OK, pretty smeggy in the back to start off with but as clearer, windier connies arrived, things improved a bit. Trigger Cut dry. Should be OK for most things tomorrow I reckon as long as its not still/ humid
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Reasonable but condensed right at the back. Going be another 8 degrees warmer tomorrow so I'd definitely give it a miss.
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If anyone was going today, I wouldn't bother. Pretty grim, Condensed throughout.
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If anyone was going today, I wouldn't bother. Pretty grim, Condensed throughout.
When you moving in? ;)
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Tomorrow, So long as the road isn't shut because of the rally?
Pass was shit too, even gopping inside the barrel cave.
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If anyone was going today, I wouldn't bother. Pretty grim, Condensed throughout.
When you moving in? ;)
New eyes at the bottom of the cave!
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Anyone know how it's holding up?
I'm staying near Llanberis over the weekend but the weather looks pretty grim, will it be worth nipping to Llandudno for a plan b?
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There's potential for it to be condensed as the temps are going up. Might be ok though, hard to say. Should be ok Sunday but I expect you'll want to go elsewhere on a dry day. As for seepage, a couple of wet holds coming through so take a rag.
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Poor conditions today. Condensed out overall with the temperature rise but some sport to be had on the lip problems on the right side which were the driest. :boohoo:
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Southerlies won't have helped.
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Anyone been since Ted was there, has it recovered? I'm going to Pill Box this eve and had the Cave as a back up plan...
Cheers
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http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/UK/Llandudno.html
Maximum 2 degree difference between Dew Point and Air temp predicted for today - I think it'll still be a condensed out smeggy mess
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Any ideas how the cave would be feeling this evening? Other than cold.
Dew point is supposedly one degree lower than actual temp, so it shouldn't have condensed, right?
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A temp spike from overnight frost to +9 degrees is probably the bigger issue than the dew point; based on that data, i'm not heading out this evening and will train instead.
Tuesday evening probably my next opportunity to get there for a lamplight session.
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Is the cave all messed up by the temp spike?
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I went last night, it was completely fine when we left at 10pm and it was 5 degrees, not sure how much its gone up since.
Revisiting the cave Alex?
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Revisiting for abject failure maybe! Looked like it was going up about 5 degrees there today...
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Did anyone go today and know what it's like? Temps have gone up a lot. Cheers
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I was there yesterday, 07/01. Totally fu****. Not a single thing climbable both in Parisella's and Split Infinity.
There was mist/condensation coupled with seepage. Literally the worst conditions I've seen in the cave.
Ventured to Pill Box just to check, that was totally wet as well but drying out. Ended up having an excellent day at the Boardroom. :)
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Anyone been today? Is it blind optimism thinking it could be dry tomorrow?
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Anyone been today? Or going tonight?
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Just got back Jack, it was mint on the rock that was dry but with the temp rise some minor seepage was coming through after dark but nothing too drastic. Basically the same as its been over the last month. RA all dry, Trigger dry but the Broken Heart jug gopping
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Cheers Ted, hope you had a good one!
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Anyone know if it's dry or condensed? Thinking of a trip over tomorrow
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More and more holds succumbing to seepage. Wet sidepulls on ferrino and seepage on ramp. Trigger, shothole and last pocket all a bit damp on TC, all jugs on rwt soaking. Better than it being condensed obviously and still some strong action happening.
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Pretty bad conditions today. Lots of seepage and general dampness. Lou Ferrino soaked, left wall damp but workable.
Left wall high soaked, lots of wet patches all around the cave.
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This is a long shot after yesterdays weather, as I don't think anywhere will be dry, but does anyone know the conditions?
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The spanish lad (Doylo's replacement) who lives in 'dudno has just put a picture on instagram, looks nice on the Orme! He says it is still the same seepage wise but no condensation. So there will be stuff to go at.
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Thanks for the update. Might be worth a trip over for us this weekend then...
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The Spanish lad is keen! Working in KFC a few days a week and the Orme the rest.
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Well keen indeed says he loves his new life, and that he is sponsored by KFC. His keenness is a bit of a problem when it comes to reporting conditions though, i drove over today after quick message on his instagram story, however it was absolutely shite. Seepage has taken over, left wall high wet in the typical place at the end. Pinch undercut on RA also now wet and trigger cut gopping.
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I think the recent torrential rain should have been a giveaway Jack ;)
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Is it worth a trip over tomorrow from Yorkshire?
I'd be interested in LW low but friend would be looking at Directors Cut etc...
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Not sure I'd bother, more heavy rain today.
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Cheers, trying the tor instead.
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Anstons tomorrow?
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Anyone been to the cave recently? Is it still wet and seeping?
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anyone go at the weekend?
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I went yesterday and it was non condensed as it was so cold and in surprisingly good nick - fine for In Hell start and RA etc. The outside edges were a bit wet with rain/ runoff but I reckon Trigger would be doable if it was a non-rainy day.
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Cheers Ted, just seen a picture from today, looks worse than yesterday by the sounds of things, even rockatrocity is seeping, last right hand pocket has a big streak of wet running right through it by the looks of things.
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Condensed today apparently.
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Anyone been yesterday or today?
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Just drove past. Condensed to fuck.
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Fucked fucked fucked!
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Cheers guys
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Would be interested to know how it is if anyone goes today.. cheers
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Horrible condensed mess! Reckon it'll be better by Monday but could be shit again by next weekend if the forecast is right and temps drop then pick up next Saturday. Also it's pissing it down in Dudno.
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Why are weekends so lame at the minute!! :wall:
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3 and a half hour journey to climb inside. :)
Way hotter today than forecast. Went up to 16.5 on drive across. Knew it was doomed then. Probably still less demoralising than doing the cwif.
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Why are weekends so lame at the minute!! :wall:
Because you have a job now. :lol:
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Anyone been today?
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Anyone been today?
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Just saw a picture on Instagram, looked dark but quite a few pads in there so must have been climbable. If it has rained anything like as much as over in Manchester there will be a lot of seepage to come unfortunately.
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Looked shite to me.
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Cheers Jack, I went to Pantymwyn instead in the end and despite the massive down pour it was dry.
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Decent today. Halfway dry. Much colder so kept the wetness in. Lou first sidepull was still out of commission though
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Everything over the right was a real mess today, BC, CB, all the lip variations. Ferrino is as bad it's been. RA dry as usual and the lower starts. Suppose it all depends what you want to get on. Armstrong shothole undercut wet too.
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Get yourself to Pantymwyn Jack!
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Get yourself to Pantymwyn Jack!
will panty be dry at weekend?
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Get yourself to Pantymwyn Jack!
will panty be dry at weekend?
depends who's panties your interested in
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Get yourself to Pantymwyn Jack!
will panty be dry at weekend?
Your's won't if you come to Wales.
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Get yourself to Pantymwyn Jack!
will panty be dry at weekend?
All the bouldering is dry there at the moment even all the stuff under the bridge, no rain forecasted between now and the weekend so it'll be dry for sure. I'd even expect the routes to be dry by the weekend, they were well on there way to being dry on Tuesday.
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Anyone been today?
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Popped my head in on the way to pillbox.
Left wall all dry. Various bits of seepage around trigger cut area. Can't be any more specific than that. I'd guess it'll nearly all be ok by tomorrow.
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Anyone been yesterday or today? Hoping to go tomorrow and would like to know if Lou Ferrino is dry after Friday's rain. Thanks!
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Everything was dry yesterday - including the 3 undercut/side-pulls on Lou Ferrino; maybe see you there tomorrow?
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Brill, thanks! Yep, setting off shortly so see you there hopefully :)
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I'm guessing it's all dry, but if anyone could confirm that it's worth the drive from Leeds tomorrow I'd appreciate it.
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Was dry today apparently, I'm wondering if it may condense tomorrow, if anyone is there early doors an update would be much appreciated.
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I heard dry but smeggy yesterday, like it was trying to condense. Apparently it cleared and connys got better in the evening. I reckon leave it late
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Good conditions all day today.
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We ended up at Craig-y-Longridge but thanks for the update. Hope you had a good session!
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How's the Cave at the mo and chances of it being dry tomorrow? Specifically LF. Asking for a friend. Ta.
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The old asking for a friend line ;) been a bit greasy but looking colder tomorrow but rainy. Should be ok, potential for some clag if it's pissing down.
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As Cher famously sang "if I could turn back time,,,,". Sadly an impossibility but growing up in Dyserth and exploring the local surrounds I always thought 'maybe one day?' about the Dyserth Waterfall cliff, The Gop, Pantymwyn, 'World's End' (Craig y ForwEn) and Devil's Gorge warranted some attention. Blimey, even my old route Genesis which I led with gear has a line of bolts up it now and gets plenty of traffic. I never, ever thought it would even be repeated.
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Decent route Genesis Andy. Wouldn't have fancied it on pegs.
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Cheers Doylo, I actually made a typo there as there was no gear at all until a short piece of fence post I placed behind a loose flake 5' from the top.
Regs from Upsidedownland.
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Not the best rock on that slab in places either. My dad broke his leg on it. Although Genesis is a bit better .
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Hi Andy, thought you might like an irrelevant little anecdote - 'the time I learned most about climbing in half an hour' you could call it.
Jerry or Chris (I forget who) was belaying you on Oyster -1984 I think. I was climbing with Bob Drury, sat on the wall watching you go up to the crux, look totally comfortable pulling through it- and then fall off. You did this 3 or 4 times.
It was odd because you didn't look like you were about to fall, far from it, but there you were, suddenly hanging on the rope. Then it dawned on me you were at your limit but giving it 100% concentration, just trying to execute the move as perfectly as you possibly could, all thoughts and fears about falling completely pushed aside.
That realisation that the best way to not fall is to just think about the move, only the move, not the fall, to just be 100% in that moment - it was like a lightbulb going off in my head. I hadn't seen that clearly before and it's stayed with me ever since.
Jon R
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Hi Jon,
Lovely post that, thanks, it brings back great memories.
I think it would've been Gore or Leachy as we all wanted to repeat it 1st after Jerry. Yes, it had a very painful and trying crux and certainly the hardest single move I'd faced on a route. We all failed but I succeeded the next day and got the 2nd ascent.
Re: the thought - or fear - of falling never even entered my head (except perhaps on North Stack Wall) but it was rather tiresome on certain routes coz you had to pull your ropes through and do all the lower stuff again.
Imagine having to do that many times for 44 days over two years (and on the opposite side of the world :o), I could write a book about that! Oh, hang on, I did :lol:
Cheers,
AP.
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I found a friendly pain free way of doing Oyster. It's nails with that horrid jam.
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Cheers Andy, it was a real 'oh I get it' moment, not like my usual faffing, grunting and 'watch me heres' before falling off.
Good times, dossing in the cave avoiding the goat dung. Took us 3 days before we looked round Pill Box wall area - just too many routes to do, we couldn't get that far before tackling another one. Remember watching Jerry repeat Statement too.
I'll have to read your book, might learn something else :)
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I found a friendly pain free way of doing Oyster. It's nails with that horrid jam.
I recall you found a smart way of doing Acid Test too but a pain-free way on Oyster's got me totally stumped Doylo!
Jon; What on earth man? You mean you've not read Punk in the Gym ? :o
I post hideously overpriced but dedicated copies all around the world from here in Melbourne so PM me if you've got AU$100 to spare as am down to the last few :thumbsup:
Cheers,
AP.
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I found a friendly pain free way of doing Oyster. It's nails with that horrid jam.
I recall you found a smart way of doing Acid Test too but a pain-free way on Oyster's got me totally stumped Doylo!
You can undercut your way up it without even using that hold. On acid Test you can by pass the bridgey stemming by boning a crozzle.
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Anyone been in the cave today or over the weekend? Planning a one-day hit to North Wales on Wednesday, either here or The Pass/Ogwen.
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Was ok this weekend in the cave, a bit still but that obviously can change day to day. Good in the pass from what several people told me. As long as their isn't a spike in temperatures the cave should be good.
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How's the cave doing? Likely to be mostly dry this weekend?
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Was fine on Tuesday, don't see why it wouldn't be OK this weekend.
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Temp rise with high humidity may put it at risk. .
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Felt mint when we arrived Friday eve (should have had a night session). Was grim, humid and sweaty all day Saturday.
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Anyone know if it's dry? Cheers
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A lot of seepage in there this week Luke and apparently tonnes of rain last night locally, that said as you know some stuff is always dry. What you wanna get on?
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Anyone been or going this week? Any updates on how it is holding up?
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Anyone know how the cave is?
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Most things are dry, a few bits of seepage on the right but not on holds. Is there anything in particular you want checked ?
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Grim today, the 'on the verge of condensing' type of stuff that it does from time to time compounded by pretty bad seepage throughout.
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Anyone got any predictions for connies this weekend, or know how it is currently?
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Minimal seapage currently . Few damp holds scattered about. Probably be ok this weekend, very windy.
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Awesome! Thank you! Will give it a go if the wind isn't totally mental :)
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Anyone been today?
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Anyone been today?
Seepage was pretty bad yesterday Will, plenty of kitchen roll required, we stayed until after dark and the consensus was it was sort of starting to condense, I wasn't sure and thought it may just be the lamps making things look that way. Either way conditions weren't great, climbable for sure though.
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Cheers Jack. Here now and it's pretty dry. Really windy.
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Has anyone been in the cave today/this week? Seepage? Hoping to get on something on wednesday. Looking pretty wet the next couple of days but staying hopeful!
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Temps pick up again tomorrow, I'd be wary of it condensing. Was condensed really bad on monday apparently, but a bit better today.
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Presume It's all screwed at the minute over at cave and pantymwyn etc?
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Both Parisella's and Pantymwyn were screwed the other day but Pill Box Wall was in good nick.
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Any recent reports from the cave? We were planning to head across tomorrow, though the weather does look crap...
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Any updates on this? Hoping to get across tomorrow...
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Gopped out yesterday apparently, can't imagine today being any better.
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Cheers for that! Got out in a blisteringly cold Ogwen instead (somehow)
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Pretty dry today, just a bit of seepage, driving wind had probably helped it recover
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How's the Cave holding up with all this snow?
Only weekend I have free for a while so probably going to try and head here. Any update on roads and seepage useful.
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http://www.westshorebeachcafe.com/webcam-in-llandudno/
doesn't look like much snow on this webcam nearby
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Don’t really get much snow in Dudno. I expect Caves getting quite dry. If you can handle the cold...
Maybe a Slight chance of condensing Sunday with temp rise?
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Psyched. As long as the M1, M6 and A55 are ok, I'll be there. I can handle cold - famous last words...
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Anyone know how the cave is today ? Any chance it'll be condensed tomorrow?
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Any news re conditions here? All news gratefully received.
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Driest it’s been for a while Pritch me old mucker.
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Nice one. Might make the journey over tomorrow
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Be interested to know how it is if anyone braves it today...
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Ok yesterday but pissing again today.
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Joe went today and said a lot of it was wet, mixture of seepage and condensed although he managed Broken Heart into Trigger into Upper cut so some things must be dry.
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Was in a mist all day.
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Anyone know how the caves looking? - thinking of heading down later in the week.
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Anyone know how the caves looking today?
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Any knowledge on the cave today?
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How has the cave been doing? Much seepage?
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Doylo had a video of a naked bloke on the Left Wall Traverse yesterday. Didn't spot any seepage from the crack.
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I definitely wouldn’t do that with a micro penis.
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I definitely wouldn’t do that with a micro penis.
That’s a good name for the next link up... :D
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Was dripping in the usual spots yesterday and still had the rain from the night before to run through. Probably condensed today. Might be alright tomorrow though
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I definitely wouldn’t do that with a micro penis.
That’s a good name for the next link up... :D
I’ll tell Jack. He’s got a micro too.
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Messy today. Not overly familiar with the place but the only things I could work as completely dry were LWT and cave right hand.
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middle of the cave had alot of seepage or condensation?
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I definitely wouldn’t do that with a micro penis.
That’s a good name for the next link up... :D
I’ll tell Jack. He’s got a micro too.
Cock Atrocity.
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In conditions non penis related news, Nai reports that its not ideal (damp) but he managed to do LW (with clothes).
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Anyone know if the caves dry?
Llandudno looks okay on the webcam, but apparently there was a little rain last night?
From what I can see it shouldn't be condensed either, but just thought I'd check in case anyone has been today
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Should be ok.
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Anyone know how the caves looking this evening?
I know there's some rain due tonight but wondering what the back of the cave + Lou Ferrino are looking like at the moment
webcam nearby doesn't look too bad?
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It was all dry this afternoon, couple of drips by left wall but generally primo.
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Thanks!
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Anyone know how the caves been today?
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Anyone know if Marine Drive has been re-opened? Visited a couple of weeks ago and it was closed due to rock fall.
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Was open earlier in the week again. Also depending on the person at the gate they will let cars through to get to Parisella's so long as you ask nicely. If you're there later, just moving the signs is an option, as is (potentially) going down from the top and going backwards down the usually 1-way bit. Been to hot recently until late-on, but the rock's been in okay condition.
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Cheers, it was both open and too hot though not as bad as the last few days.
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What's the likelyhood of parisellas being dry this Saturday? Or is it going to have seepage? My other thought was hyll drem as that is meant to be perma dry.
Or is it a beacon day
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I predict it'll be good conditions today and tomorrow, and then a bit minging; firstly due to an increase in smeg/humidity/condensation, and then lots of seepage.
https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/gb/llandudno/53.32,-3.82
The lack of a gap in temperature between the air temp and dew point in the forecast charts tend to indicate smeg central
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Amazing thanks! :bow:
Sorry if this next bit is a hit off topic but that's the first time I've seen that website.
So for future reference does this mean you can roughly guess how smeggy/greasy it will be by looking at the dew point compared to the temperature? The closer they are together the more likely it is to be greasy? How close do they have to get before it's considered greasy?
I've always wondered how to work out how greasy places like Gogarth and Pembroke would be but it looks like I've got a way of having a rough idea
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The thing to really avoid with Parisella's is going immediately after a rapid increase in daytime temperature - typically this happens after a warm-front passes through. That tends to give you a very small difference between air temperature & dew point = condensation. I've had a wasted journey previously when i didn't pay attention to the forecast and found the cave completely "cappuccino brown" and a condensed, smeggy mess.
I would say anything >6 degrees differences between air temp & dew point gives good conditions, though you can also end up with weird super-dry, low humidity "glassy" conditions if the humidity is <50% - that's much more rare than smeggy!
In between these extremes is a guessing game, and you also need to take a look at recent rainfall to predict how much seepage might be coming through. The forecast for he rest of the week is for a <3 degree difference and ongoing rainfall; the left wall and back section of the cave (cave life etc) will probably be climbable, but if you want to get on anything on the right hand side it's probably gonna be wet.
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It will be my first time climbing there and had my eye on left wall traverse and the easier shorter variants building up to the full left wall traverse. So I might get something out of it... And tbh that will probably keep me busy for a few sessions :lol: but realistically if it's gonna be a bit smeggy in there then my head says it's probably better to not go there and get a better session done elsewhere
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It will be my first time climbing there
Good luck!
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Is it dry? Any thoughts on whether it'll be good tomorrow, aa the humidity is meant to be 95%!
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Anyone been recently?
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Last night:
Left wall low and high dry
rocka dry (as always)
arch dry
Lou Ferrino first LH and rail wet, but other holds dry
Trigger Cut dry, however half way house holds I think were wet
Bonnie last 3 holds wet
Clever Beaver dry (just about)
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Thanks Yetix - very useful summary
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Nothing like that today haha.
I’d say I’ve never seen it worse seepage wise. You name it, it is wet. Rocka Included, three wet holds on that. Not condense just seepage like I’ve never seen. Puddle outside is as big as I’ve seen too which suggests more to come.
Stuff with wet holds which I don’t think could be managed - bonnie, Clyde, crucial, left wall high, Incredible bulk, most of the lip problems.
Armstrong pretty wet too. Ferrino will be manageable but would take some drying and keeping on top of.
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Anyone been lately?
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https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18257035.llandudno-marine-drive-wall-collapses/
Think its closed due to rockfall?
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How dry is the cave at the moment? I presume fairly decent, given Jack's been doing a bunch there? Wondering about a trip tomorrow...
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Fairly reasonable for time of year . The road is two way as it’s closed on the back side so you won’t have to drive all the way round after too.
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At least some are getting to enjoy the sights of Llandudno...
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2020/mar/31/llandudno-goats-herd-running-riot-coronavirus-lockdown?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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A former PhD student has just got a job down that way and moved to Llandudno last month. He’s since been introduced to the Monkey man - and is now in isolation with goats outside his house/flat. Quite a start 😂
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Anyone know how wet/dry the cave is at the moment?
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I'd quite like to know too. I suspect it's minging but I'm reluctant to drive 40 minutes to confirm this.
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Saw pics of people having a New Year's Day session on Instagram so there is certainly at least some climbing to be done atm.
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Went today. Lots of wetness but RA dry, Ferrino workable, Trigger damp but ok, front right but quite wet. But wetter at end of day than start
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Do any cave devotees have an idea of the lag time between heavy rain and seepage coming through?
I realise this is multifactorial, like if it's been dry for weeks it won't come through at all or whatever, but given how much time some people have spent there over the years I'm wondering have you any rules of thumb?
For reference, there was only a little bit of seepage on a few things yesterday, but yesterday afternoon and today there's been a lot of very heavy rain.
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Any recent reports? mainly interested in Ferrino and problems on the RHS
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Ferrino was f*cked on Friday. Very wet in general - left wall soaked. Rocka was OK bar the odd wet foothold and the lower starts were all doable.
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Thought as much.. thanks