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Title: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 22, 2020, 02:08:31 pm
Amongst all the bad news - behaviour everywhere is being modified with some positive outcomes.
For me:

I’m certainly being more careful what I use and what I throw away. A teeny bit of the wartime thrift my parents grew up with

I’m going to spent a whole lot more time with my boy (looks like I’ll be major childcarer)

I’m going to cook a lot more - and be more creative.

I won’t be driving 500 miles a week for the foreseeable future.

Our road is quiet And outside is lovely (in the tiny garden) - no cars around, noticeably less fumes - and planes in the sky are unusual rather than the norm.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Yossarian on March 22, 2020, 02:44:16 pm
I still haven’t found out if my freelance contract is ending at the end of the month yet (entirely dependent on a virtual meeting this coming week) but I really hope that the overall freelancer / rights situation gets an overhaul before too long. There are so many people making a lot of noise about it that I think / hope it’s inevitable.

I also hope that remote working becomes normalised as a result of all this. In the design world it seems that many entirely digital studios are now all or semi remote / decentralised, but most graphic design companies are wedded to the entire studio being present in central London at the same time. I would have a much brighter future if I could work from home 4 a days a week rather than commute for 4hrs a day.

Our kids (8 and 5) are already learning to (and struggling with) adapting to having to keep themselves occupied. They are planning FaceTime with their mates, and today they have been painting with watercolours, doing online maths and had a walk to the (fairly deserted) beach.

I’m still stuck with an antiquated desktop that’s fine for illustration and design, but if I am going to carry on getting paid (but without the cost of commuting to London) I will buy a new iMac and start animating (one of my NY resolutions).

If the job goes, I have plenty of book and illustration ideas / proposals to work on. A better scenario that the TV production designer chum I chatted to across the road yesterday - I can’t see any TV filming happening for a while...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 22, 2020, 03:09:57 pm
My kids (and for once all four, without arguing) are in the garden pulling out brambles as thick as my wrist and hacking back shrubs that are doing fair impressions of Ents.
Polly is spending Mother’s day pressure washing the patio slabs and we’re making a dent on the war zone we laughingly called a garden. The winter storms had really done for it.
We’ve pulled two trampolines and a paddling pool out of the trees and shrubs.

We’ll have dinner Grandma later.

Via WhatsApp video call.

And the grave.

Is just a hole in the ground. We can go there any time.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: cheque on March 22, 2020, 04:40:44 pm
I said on another thread the other day that lots of people in the organisation I work for could work from home but never do for some reason. Now they’ve got to they’re almost certain to do it more in future- scale that up and I think we’ll see a positive impact on a much bigger level.

I was so fucking happy as my life got gradually back to normal (or established at a new normal) after my accident- I don’t think I’ll ever take things for granted in the same way I used to. I like to think that we’ll have that on a more collective level as things improve, which can’t be a bad thing.

A lot is made of the character-building effects of the blitz on those who lived through it. Perhaps this can do similar for those of us who are around now but possibly with less nationalism involved.

It occurred to me yesterday that I have a lot of time to edit unfinished footage that I was expecting to not get round to once the route climbing weather came back.

We’re probably all going to be a lot more hygiene-conscious from now on. Can’t be a bad thing.

Myself and my other half both got new guitars in the winter and I started teaching her to play and getting back to the level where I used to be myself. We’re going to be like bloody Van Halen.

We’ve pulled two trampolines and a paddling pool out of the trees and shrubs.

Years ago, when me and my mates were coming up to moving out of the house we’d lived in since we were students we realised we’d better sort out the bramble situation in the garden- after two days work we discovered that it was twice the size that we thought it was and right at the back there was a bench that we had only the faintest memories of.  :lol:
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: jwi on March 22, 2020, 05:05:42 pm
I am well impressed by this: https://www.isinnova.it/easy-covid19-eng/

If you have a 3d printer you can manufacture C-PAP masks for sub-intensive therapy by buying an over the shelf "Easybreath" snorkeling mask from Decathlon, download the drawing and print the link valve. Voilà! You have a non-certified bio-medical device, to be used only if non certified masks can be had. If you have a printer and are willing, the link above can also connect you to hospitals in need.

When the developers contacted Decathlon they were immediately provided with the CAD drawing of the mask.

A prototype has been tested successfully by the Chiari Hospital.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Murph on March 22, 2020, 06:16:54 pm
More time with the kids is good and bad but yeah bits of it are good. Global warming might have been slowed down by a bit. Fingerboarding is cool again. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Fiend on March 22, 2020, 06:22:36 pm
Good thread tt.

I'm being even more sedate as an Audi driver, and deliberately more courteous, to just try to keep up some common decency. And doing the same in other interactions.

I'm also being more dilligent and receptive in online interactions to try to keep a sense of communication and togetherness.

I also realise I've been right for the last 20 years in promotion exploration of off-piste climbing areas and not always going to bloody honeypots!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Andy F on March 22, 2020, 06:25:06 pm
The garden will finally get the seeing too it desperately needs (cut the hedge back today, dug out some triffid level weeds).
The upstairs rooms can get decorated.
The gable end can get painted.
The lesson planning for the next year can get done.
Come September, things should be in a much better place.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: a13c on March 22, 2020, 06:40:41 pm
Good thread. I feel in need of some positivity!

Dolphins in Venice!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: 205Chris on March 22, 2020, 06:57:38 pm
I am well impressed by this: https://www.isinnova.it/easy-covid19-eng/

If you have a 3d printer you can manufacture C-PAP masks for sub-intensive therapy by buying an over the shelf "Easybreath" snorkeling mask from Decathlon, download the drawing and print the link valve. Voilà! You have a non-certified bio-medical device, to be used only if non certified masks can be had. If you have a printer and are willing, the link above can also connect you to hospitals in need.

When the developers contacted Decathlon they were immediately provided with the CAD drawing of the mask.

A prototype has been tested successfully by the Chiari Hospital.

Stuff like this restores my faith in humanity
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Fultonius on March 22, 2020, 11:01:19 pm
For me, I have a lot of "hopeful" positives that I think may happen, and hope will:


It's certainly bringing our family closer together. Despite my sister being stuck in Antigua (I know, I know, there are worse places to be stuck...but hurricane season...) with a boat that needs sailed back across the Atlantic with no crew...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Muenchener on March 23, 2020, 07:42:47 am
I also hope that remote working becomes normalised as a result of all this. ... I would have a much brighter future if I could work from home 4 a days a week rather than commute for 4hrs a day.

My employer has had a fairly flexible working from home policy for a while, which I have generally not chosen to take advantage of. Now that I'm getting more used to it I probably will for a couple of days a week. I mostly commute by bike or public transport, so it's not a environmental issue for me, but I could certainly come to appreciate the extra couple of hours a day.

We’re probably all going to be a lot more hygiene-conscious from now on. Can’t be a bad thing.

For the last few years I've suffered from persistent low grade coughs & snuffles for months over practically the entire autumn & winter. I had no idea until now that things like hand washing & face touching were so important - not that I didn't wash my hands, but I had no idea they played a significant role in respiratory tract infections. I will be following a lot more of the advice in this uphill athlete article (https://www.uphillathlete.com/avoid-sick-illness-training-healthy/) in future.

Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 23, 2020, 11:20:39 am
Railways to be re-nationalised! (Well for 6 months at least). Suspect there may be some overhaul at the end of all this - which will probably be a good thing.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 23, 2020, 12:07:54 pm
Progress on the bouldering wall in the garage, may even get it done this week.

No ironing and preparing school uniforms
No getting schoolbags ready, getting kids up, dressed and breakfasted
No shaving
No getting to work commute faff
Went for a run at 8 am, chilly breezy morning, stopped to appreciate wild waves at Newtonhill Beach, both the dog walkers appreciated my distancing and not petting their dogs, and were friendly and courteous.
Shower in the morning is something I rarely have time for
Time to spend with the kids.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: peewee on March 23, 2020, 12:09:20 pm
Eurovision has been cancelled  :beer2:
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Somebody's Fool on March 23, 2020, 12:11:05 pm
Railways to be re-nationalised! (Well for 6 months at least). Suspect there may be some overhaul at the end of all this - which will probably be a good thing.

Some things that undoubtedly would help deal with a crisis like this in future:

National Care Service to free up hospital capacity
Properly funded NHS
Publicly owned Royal Mail
Publicly owned trains
Publicy owned buses
UBI
Fast broadband to whole country





Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 23, 2020, 12:14:28 pm
Eurovision has been cancelled  :beer2:

Phew.

My sister has been barred from entering the Hospital and ordered to work from home.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: steveri on March 23, 2020, 12:36:19 pm
The air is sparkling out there.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: petejh on March 23, 2020, 01:48:55 pm
Classic routes at euro sport crags will reach a certain level of polish 6-12 months further into the future than they otherwise would.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Will Hunt on March 23, 2020, 02:07:54 pm
This has been mentioned above, but to paraphrase. My grandparent's generation was defined by their great national struggle: the second world war. It is often said that their children and my generation had no unifying struggle or challenge. There have already been some great examples of how people have rallied and worked together to fight against the disease. We will probably look back on this as being our great generation-defining struggle - but the enemy is a microbe, not another country, and we "win the war" by looking out for each other and through scientific endeavour rather than by dropping bombs on and shooting bullets at other people.

One hopes that isolationism (see Trump, Iran) will be exposed as shite, and a new light is shone on the value of international co-operation. I also hope that we don't end up having to live with a long-term shame that the developed world sorted itself out and left the developing world to sort itself out unaided.


And then there's all sorts of opportunities for trying out new ways of doing things. Normally these ideas (UBI etc) are tossed out as too much a deviation from the status quo. Now that that is gone, maybe we can do things differently. More home-working is an obvious one, but there's other ideas such as starting the school year at a different time etc.


Most importantly of all: I have a board in my garage; Ben has no training aids whatsoever. It is my sincerest hope that when we emerge to the rock he will be a complete weakling and I will be a complete beast.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 23, 2020, 02:29:07 pm
You nearly sounded positive there Will - nearly 😃
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: i.munro on March 23, 2020, 02:31:48 pm
Unfortunately we already have a 'great (inter)national struggle',  one that makes both the current problem and the second world war look like a picnic and the current  situation seems to be completely distracting us from that .
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Will Hunt on March 23, 2020, 02:44:21 pm
Unfortunately we already have a 'great (inter)national struggle',  one that makes both the current problem and the second world war look like a picnic and the current  situation seems to be completely distracting us from that .

I'm guessing you're talking about climate change. The other positive is that this might demonstrate that international co-operation can work, and that actually we can do radical change if the stakes are high enough. I know what you mean, but the time-scales are different. Climate change will kill more but likely over a longer period and perhaps in less obvious ways. The impact of Coronavirus is much more acute and immediate.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Muesli on March 23, 2020, 02:55:57 pm
Tory government ministers can now be regularly heard haranguing the public about the dangers of selfishness and the wonderfulness of the NHS.



Who would of thought it.



Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: i.munro on March 23, 2020, 03:01:18 pm
Good guess! They're threats of  a completely different magnitude.
This is callous but from the point of view of a species both homo sapiens and I suspect every other species have seen much, much worse and bounced back!
Even from the point of view of a civilisation it's a minor one compared to the black death and smallpox.

Climate change ls perfectly capable and looks  increasingly likely to end both our civilisation and then our species and relatively soon.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: 36chambers on March 23, 2020, 03:34:18 pm
Most importantly of all: I have a board in my garage; Ben has no training aids whatsoever. It is my sincerest hope that when we emerge to the rock he will be a complete weakling and I will be a complete beast.

:beer2:
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Footwork on March 23, 2020, 03:51:05 pm
Most importantly of all: I have a board in my garage; Ben has no training aids whatsoever. It is my sincerest hope that when we emerge to the rock he will be a complete weakling and I will be a complete beast.

:beer2:

You wish. I'll tear the door frames from the walls if I have to.

Another positive of all this - we skip lime season and have back to back grit  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Will Hunt on March 23, 2020, 04:32:24 pm
That is actually a very good point.

Traditionally it's also been a hapless klutz who drops the ball, misses the call and can't do more than one season without quitting, but I think those are optional.

I mean, I know the calling of the lime is traditionally marred by farce, but fucking hell...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: csl on March 23, 2020, 04:50:14 pm
Most importantly of all: I have a board in my garage; Ben has no training aids whatsoever. It is my sincerest hope that when we emerge to the rock he will be a complete weakling and I will be a complete beast.

:beer2:

You wish. I'll tear the door frames from the walls if I have to.

Another positive of all this - we skip lime season and have back to back grit  :2thumbsup:

Time for your dad to come and build you a board in the garage Ben, just make sure you don't go near him while he does it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: dunnyg on March 23, 2020, 05:03:15 pm
Tell him to watch out for that asbestos though.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 23, 2020, 05:16:47 pm
I’m going to grow a coronabeard :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 23, 2020, 10:02:54 pm
The DFS sale is finally over?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: James Malloch on March 23, 2020, 10:28:47 pm
The DFS sale is finally over?

I'm moving into a house without a mattress tomorrow...I hope not!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: JamieG on March 24, 2020, 12:54:39 pm
I’m going to grow a coronabeard :)

Mine is progressing rapidly. More grey than I would like to admit. Wonder if it will improve my science. More stroking required to thoroughly test.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 24, 2020, 01:17:55 pm
I’m going to grow a coronabeard :)

Mine is progressing rapidly. More grey than I would like to admit. Wonder if it will improve my science. More stroking required to thoroughly test.

In my 50 years I’ve never grown one!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: JamieG on March 24, 2020, 01:26:24 pm
I’m going to grow a coronabeard :)

Mine is progressing rapidly. More grey than I would like to admit. Wonder if it will improve my science. More stroking required to thoroughly test.

In my 50 years I’ve never grown one!

No time like the present. Quite literally!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: crzylgs on March 24, 2020, 01:27:08 pm
For you potential beard growers - if you plan on wearing a protective face/mouth mask while venturing out for essentials I've heard having a beard negatively impacts the protective seal.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: JamieG on March 24, 2020, 01:32:20 pm
For you potential beard growers - if you plan on wearing a protective face/mouth mask while venturing out for essentials I've heard having a beard negatively impacts the protective seal.

Mutton chops it is then!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: dunnyg on March 24, 2020, 01:38:25 pm
Or a little tash?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Hoseyb on March 24, 2020, 01:58:49 pm
I'm currently spending a lot more time on ukb, and randomly contributing.
This may be positive.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Doylo on March 24, 2020, 03:25:31 pm
I’ve got a new found respect for nursery workers and now I realise why they charge so fuckin much. :pissed:
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Will Hunt on March 24, 2020, 03:43:42 pm
I was brought a homemade hot cross bun at my desk today. Hot from the oven and dripping butter.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: abarro81 on March 24, 2020, 03:55:40 pm
I was reminded of this classic DG video. Good fingerboard inspiration from 30s on...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhWaJPEoJzQ
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 24, 2020, 04:25:58 pm
I’ve got a new found respect for nursery workers and now I realise why they charge so fuckin much. :pissed:

:D Routine Routine Routine

For the carer - its all about little targets. Make it to Lunch. Make it to Nap time. Make it to when partner comes back home. Beer.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: dunnyg on March 24, 2020, 05:02:49 pm
Got a bird feeder in the garden, don't often get chance to see who is having what. That has all changed now. Got some regular robins, the local fat pigeon pair, blue tits, sparrows, coal tits, and occasionally a visiting magpie and a jay. All whilst I've been working from home. Mega.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Doylo on March 24, 2020, 05:39:00 pm
I’ve got a new found respect for nursery workers and now I realise why they charge so fuckin much. :pissed:

:D Routine Routine Routine

For the carer - its all about little targets. Make it to Lunch. Make it to Nap time. Make it to when partner comes back home. Beer.

She’s laughing hysterically one minute and crying and moaning the next. So temperamental. And not napping as long at mo. Then the Mrs finishes work in other room and goes for a 45 minute walk. I’m gonna be loopy in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Hoseyb on March 24, 2020, 05:55:15 pm
Doylo. I feel your pain. Finding something to hook them up with on the TV, while simultaneously preventing yourself from throwing something through it is key for mental health.

I recommend:
Ben and Holly (prime)
Super hero squad (disney+)
Boss Baby (Netflix)
Sarah and duck (I player)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Doylo on March 24, 2020, 06:16:08 pm
Ye Netflix is on a lot but obvs don’t want her staring at TV all day. I’ve got it good here really, can get to the beach from the estate for the daily exercise, just my heads melting by 5. It’s definitely a lot harder than going to work   ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Hoseyb on March 24, 2020, 06:26:43 pm
Yup.
My parenting style is best described as slightly chaotic, we kind of had to land on our feet (3 under 2 at one point, now we have 4) games that seem really messy, but actually clean up well work. As does no carpets. How old is yours?

I've fond memories of the twins doing bum prints as toddlers, and having to hose them down afterwards.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Doylo on March 24, 2020, 06:48:56 pm
2 and a bit . She was a nightmare baby, good fun now when not screaming/moaning. Just not used to being a full time dad.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 24, 2020, 07:00:59 pm
Its relentless isnt it Doylo...

Sure you've tried it but this worked for us then: Morning - breakfast - play indoors - try and do something active outside. Early lunch 11:30-12. Maybe in the pram see if she'll drop off?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: kingholmesy on March 24, 2020, 07:20:40 pm
Best thing about lockdown & working from home = seeing more of the kids.

Worst thing about lockdown & working from home = seeing more of the kids.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 24, 2020, 07:34:41 pm
Another good thing.

Feet. Not wearing rock shoes for months will see my toes and nails return to some sort of normality (I hope!).

Means those rock shoes will kill when they get out back on though!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Doylo on March 24, 2020, 07:41:40 pm
Its relentless isnt it Doylo...

Sure you've tried it but this worked for us then: Morning - breakfast - play indoors - try and do something active outside. Early lunch 11:30-12. Maybe in the pram see if she'll drop off?

Most days are similar to this with later nap.
Still can’t comprehend that some people have more than one...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: petejh on March 24, 2020, 08:54:42 pm
Is it just me or is anyone else happy with temporarily forgetting any pretence of staying in shape for climbing and instead enjoying gorging on refined carbs and alcohol?  :shrug: For the last 10 days or so I've been really enjoying coming home and just slobbing around with a beer, tube of pringles and some dirty takeaway. I figure I have another 4 months or so to get over my dirty new habit and get back in shape, no point rushing things it's a marathon not a sprint.
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Doylo on March 24, 2020, 09:02:51 pm
Best thing about lockdown & working from home = seeing more of the kids.

Worst thing about lockdown & working from home = seeing more of the kids.

Sums up having a child. You feel every emotion under the sun.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: kingholmesy on March 24, 2020, 09:37:56 pm

Sums up having a child. You feel every emotion under the sun.

Usually all within the space of about half an hour.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: BrutusTheBear on March 24, 2020, 09:47:15 pm
My 9 year old son is like a walking fog horn at times, the volume control doesn’t work, hard to not get irritated by it..  Then he’ll be the sweetest, kindest little being you can imagine.
Reading him The Hobbit at the moment, I’ve never actually read it, it’s a great story to share with him and to be able to take the time not be rushed or tired from school and work is so nice!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Muesli on March 25, 2020, 06:44:20 am
Lack of traffic on the road outside meant I was woken by birdsong and a woodpecker this morning rather than passing cars  :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Andy F on March 25, 2020, 08:17:02 am
My 9 year old son is like a walking fog horn at times, the volume control doesn’t work, hard to not get irritated by it..  Then he’ll be the sweetest, kindest little being you can imagine.
Reading him The Hobbit at the moment, I’ve never actually read it, it’s a great story to share with him and to be able to take the time not be rushed or tired from school and work is so nice!
Our 9 year old has taken it upon himself to start reading The Lord of the Rings recently. I did explain to him he should read The Hobbit first, but he was determined to read LoTR first.
On Sunday we watched the extended DVD of The Fellowship and he moaned there was no Tom Bombadil! Happy dad moment.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Murph on March 25, 2020, 09:06:39 am
Means those rock shoes will kill when they get out back on though!!

Good point tom! Its these little things that might make a difference when, (6 months from now?) we can go out again. Maybe I really should get training on the garage board...

Another positive, not sure if mentioned already, but no-one is losing sleep over Brexit any more.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Muenchener on March 25, 2020, 09:08:19 am
Is it just me or is anyone else happy with temporarily forgetting any pretence of staying in shape for climbing and instead enjoying gorging on refined carbs and alcohol? 

I confess I've been mostly pretending to stay in shape, but yesterday was my birthday so I broke quarantine as far as the cellar, and cracked open a good bottle of Rioja and a Bowmore 15yo that I picked up a Gatwick duty free a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 25, 2020, 09:15:11 am
Driving to work every day means i usually avoid drinking at all during the week, but an evening single malt or two is becoming a bit more common these days.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: nai on March 25, 2020, 10:26:14 am
Is it just me or is anyone else happy with temporarily forgetting any pretence of staying in shape for climbing and instead enjoying gorging on refined carbs and alcohol?  :shrug: For the last 10 days or so I've been really enjoying coming home and just slobbing around with a beer, tube of pringles and some dirty takeaway. I figure I have another 4 months or so to get over my dirty new habit and get back in shape, no point rushing things it's a marathon not a sprint.
:popcorn:

 :guilty: :oops:  Train heavy, right?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: 36chambers on March 25, 2020, 10:43:17 am
Is it just me or is anyone else happy with temporarily forgetting any pretence of staying in shape for climbing and instead enjoying gorging on refined carbs and alcohol?  :shrug: For the last 10 days or so I've been really enjoying coming home and just slobbing around with a beer, tube of pringles and some dirty takeaway. I figure I have another 4 months or so to get over my dirty new habit and get back in shape, no point rushing things it's a marathon not a sprint.
:popcorn:

I know it hasn't been long,  but I'm actually feeling leaner. Having cut back on bread (and rice) which usually makes up 95% of my diet.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: TobyD on March 25, 2020, 10:46:45 am
Is it just me or is anyone else happy with temporarily forgetting any pretence of staying in shape for climbing and instead enjoying gorging on refined carbs and alcohol?  :shrug: For the last 10 days or so I've been really enjoying coming home and just slobbing around with a beer, tube of pringles and some dirty takeaway. I figure I have another 4 months or so to get over my dirty new habit and get back in shape, no point rushing things it's a marathon not a sprint.
:popcorn:

Food, why not? Maximise the immune system by eating everything in sight.  Best not to really overdo it perhaps,  unless you're the one guilty of buying up all the loo roll. Trying to, mostly limit alcohol,  but more because I feel drinking in solitary isolation would not be a good habit mentally than physically. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: duncan on March 25, 2020, 10:50:51 am
Is it just me or is anyone else happy with temporarily forgetting any pretence of staying in shape for climbing and instead enjoying gorging on refined carbs and alcohol?  :shrug: For the last 10 days or so I've been really enjoying coming home and just slobbing around with a beer, tube of pringles and some dirty takeaway. I figure I have another 4 months or so to get over my dirty new habit and get back in shape, no point rushing things it's a marathon not a sprint.
:popcorn:

Food, why not? Maximise the immune system by eating everything in sight.  Best not to really overdo it perhaps,  unless you're the one guilty of buying up all the loo roll. Trying to, mostly limit alcohol,  but more because I feel drinking in solitary isolation would not be a good habit mentally than physically.

Either it's having a cold or the thought of having to brave a packed supermarket to restock, but I've been feeling much less like snacking. The winter fat is reducing accordingly.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: nai on March 25, 2020, 11:08:39 am
My wife is in a WhatsApp chat with a lot of other doctors sharing information. Seems that in some patients once recovered from the main symptoms their lost senses of taste and smell haven't recovered some time later, so eat tasty stuff while you can still apreciate it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Turboman on March 25, 2020, 11:22:02 am
This new routine certainly makes planning my training a whole lot easier.
I no longer have to work around weekend or short after work sessions.
Is this what it feel like to be a full time pro?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Muenchener on March 25, 2020, 11:28:38 am
Dunno.

For me, working from home (fortunate to be able to, I know) + home schooling + more cooking than usual + planning  stealth supermarket raids + side software projects I hoped to have more time for + spotless & tidy apartment + fingerboard, kettlebell, yoga is all proving much harder to fit into the available hours than I imagined.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: andy popp on March 25, 2020, 11:31:58 am
This one's especially for TT, Duncan and any other academics: the REF's been cancelled.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 25, 2020, 02:29:27 pm
This one's especially for TT, Duncan and any other academics: the REF's been cancelled.

Cancelled? I heard it had been put back a year yesterday... with a very badly worded statement that could have been out of Boris CV strategy...

If so - fantastic news.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: sidewinder on March 25, 2020, 02:50:05 pm
My reading was postponed and will be re-announced with at least 8 months notice to the submission date.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 25, 2020, 03:00:51 pm
Seems that in some patients once recovered from the main symptoms their lost senses of taste and smell haven't recovered some time later, so eat tasty stuff while you can still apreciate it.

This has been reported https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/23/health/coronavirus-symptoms-smell-intl/index.html

Do we have a nationwide chilli eating contest at the end??
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 25, 2020, 03:42:19 pm
We're ploughing through all 17 discs of HP - Goblet of Fire. Said they can't watch film until they've listened to it all.

Apparently Audible have released thousands of titles for free.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Footwork on March 25, 2020, 05:02:03 pm
Seeing as my work will likely be dwindling as the economic downturn ensues, I'll have time to actually write LWW again. There's lots of places to pick up from - like when Ben Moon asked if I wanted my book signed at Crag X.  :-[

There's even footage of an esoteric 7B FA I need to upload from a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Bradders on March 25, 2020, 05:31:25 pm
Seeing as my work will likely be dwindling as the economic downturn ensues, I'll have time to actually write LWW again. There's lots of places to pick up from - like when Ben Moon asked if I wanted my book signed at Crag X.  :-[

There's even footage of an esoteric 7B FA I need to upload from a couple years ago.

Yes!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: andy popp on March 25, 2020, 05:40:09 pm
This one's especially for TT, Duncan and any other academics: the REF's been cancelled.

Cancelled? I heard it had been put back a year yesterday... with a very badly worded statement that could have been out of Boris CV strategy...

If so - fantastic news.

Probably me just not reading anything properly, I'm probably wrong. Even a delay is good, unless they think that means you should be able to grind out another two 4 stars.

(I will refrain from mentioning that I will likely never have to think about it again in my life).
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 25, 2020, 10:12:05 pm
Is it just me or is anyone else happy with temporarily forgetting any pretence of staying in shape for climbing and instead enjoying gorging on refined carbs and alcohol?  :shrug: For the last 10 days or so I've been really enjoying coming home and just slobbing around with a beer, tube of pringles and some dirty takeaway. I figure I have another 4 months or so to get over my dirty new habit and get back in shape, no point rushing things it's a marathon not a sprint.

My take is when it finally comes for you, it might be worth having a bit of excess fuel in the tank to keep the body going. Fatten yersel' up a bit like.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: gme on March 26, 2020, 08:02:32 am
My alcohol consumption has fallen off a cliff without pubs and the rugby club being open. Plus you have to be organised now and cant just nip out for a bottle of wine.

The sensible would be able to just buy in bulk but unfortunately my lack of self control means i would just drink it all quicker. I am always impressed by people how can open a bottle of wine and not drink it all.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Muenchener on March 26, 2020, 08:44:04 am
I had about 30 bottles of wine in the cellar at start of play. Fewer now.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Doylo on March 26, 2020, 09:00:39 am
I can no longer masturbate as I’m never alone. A lot better for my mental health.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: TobyD on March 26, 2020, 09:01:44 am
https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/piers-morgan-pay-parking-ticket-fine-nhs-workers-coronavirus-a4396991.html

I'm going to move my car onto some double yellows immediately.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2020, 09:05:26 am
I can no longer masturbate as I’m never alone. A lot better for my mental health.

You not showering? :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: nai on March 26, 2020, 09:08:47 am
I am always impressed by people how can open a bottle of wine and not drink it all.

I'm always impressed by people who can drink a whole bottle of wine without passing out  :weakbench:
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2020, 09:09:56 am
I'm impressed by people who can drink wine and not grimace at the first sip. Proper pleb me.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Doylo on March 26, 2020, 09:28:56 am
I can no longer masturbate as I’m never alone. A lot better for my mental health.

You not showering? :)

Can’t use my phone in the shower.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 26, 2020, 09:31:55 am
I am always impressed by people how can open a bottle of wine and not drink it all.

I'm always impressed by people who can drink a whole bottle of wine without passing out  :weakbench:

What? Even if it takes three days, like me?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 26, 2020, 10:34:04 am
I can no longer masturbate as I’m never alone. A lot better for my mental health.

Post of the thread. Right there. 😂
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: JamieG on March 26, 2020, 12:38:33 pm
I spent the morning in the garden (more of a little flagged yard due to it being a terrace) drawing with chalk on the paving with my daughter. Lovely. Although she seems more interested in digging soil out of the planters.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2020, 01:06:02 pm
Never mind her wanting to go digging Jamie, I'm sure the picture you drew is lovely. Have a gold star.

My son has decided now he wants to run a marathon distance over the first 3 weeks, assuming they don't clamp down further. I've got a chart for him to colour in for every 1/4 mile completed, can email it if anyone wants it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: JamieG on March 26, 2020, 01:33:42 pm
Haha thanks Chris. I’ve rediscovered my love of doodling thanks to her. Crayons, paints, chalk. Great fun.  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2020, 02:40:02 pm
I'm terrible at drawing, kids are the only ones who have ever been impressed by it.

Mate started doodling after kids having stopped for decades, and has started doing it as a sideline to raise a bit of cash.

https://www.instagram.com/sburn23/

He did this for me from a photo

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7hM4veHAMP/

Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: JamieG on March 26, 2020, 03:47:20 pm
Yeah, your mate actually has talent. Those are really good. Love the style. My doodles are (and I can't emphasise this enough) nothing like that . . .
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: gme on March 26, 2020, 04:45:51 pm
Just filled up my van. Diesel £1.06 a litre.
Then drove from Sheffield to Alnwick. Got on M1 at end of parkway set 80 on cruise control and only touched the break once before I got to the 50 zone at the angel of the north.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 26, 2020, 06:21:27 pm
Cheap fuel is great, until people start losing jobs. Already redundancies at some companies in the sector.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on March 28, 2020, 08:47:32 am
Innovation combined with generosity!

Oxvent (a n Oxford/Kings Uni spin-off) have developed a ventilator that can be built at about a tenth of the price of current models with an open source design using off-the-shelf parts. It was on BBC CLICK today.

https://oxvent.org
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: BrutusTheBear on March 28, 2020, 09:28:42 am
Well if they make a big donation to the Conservatives they might just get a contract, in the meantime we wait for Dyson and JCB to sort their shit out.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: lagerstarfish on March 28, 2020, 09:36:35 am
Keeping the kids apart could be our big chance to get rid of headlice "forever"
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 28, 2020, 09:38:08 am
Keeping the kids apart could be our big chance to get rid of headlice "forever"

I think discovering perpetual motion is more probable.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on March 28, 2020, 09:57:50 am
Well if they make a big donation to the Conservatives they might just get a contract, in the meantime we wait for Dyson and JCB to sort their shit out.

If it's an open source design with off-the-shelf parts, contract issues are less complex and time to market is much reduced.  Its hardly like there is a glut of alternatives. More importantly for the third world they can use it to cheaply manufacture and save lives.

It's easy to forget how much open source has influenced modern technology development from Bell Labs and the transistor to the masses of open source software.

Another excellent local innovation today (Im not normally a massive fan of Boots):

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/boots-opens-drive-through-covid-3994681

It was in the news yesterday that a biotech company in Hampshire is working with the local NHS trust to similarly test NHS staff for free.

Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on March 28, 2020, 12:12:33 pm
A lovely message from Italy

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/a-letter-to-the-uk-from-italy-this-is-what-we-know-about-your-future
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Muenchener on March 28, 2020, 12:33:14 pm
It's a small thing, but I had scarcely read or paid for a newspaper in years. The Munich Mercury's coverage of the state of emergency in Bavaria has been so excellent, though, that I've decided they definitely deserve some of my money in future.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: cheque on March 28, 2020, 02:31:15 pm
Clocks go forward tonight so that’s one hour less to kill tomorrow.  ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: bolehillbilly on March 28, 2020, 04:19:37 pm
Clocks go forward tonight so that’s one hour less to kill tomorrow.  ;)

As the actual time has less relevance now you could save the change for a rainy day when you cant get out for walk.
 ;)

Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 28, 2020, 06:18:47 pm
Clocks go forward tonight so that’s one hour less to kill tomorrow.  ;)

As the actual time has less relevance now you could save the change for a rainy day when you cant get out for walk.
 ;)

Realised we had forgotten all about this.

Suddenly had a vision of emerging from our hole in a few weeks an hour out of sync with humanity at large...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: TobyD on March 28, 2020, 11:42:59 pm
Clocks go forward tonight so that’s one hour less to kill tomorrow.  ;)

I'd totally forgotten about that! Tar...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on March 29, 2020, 12:09:15 am
Another public institution producing open souce designs .. this time for PPE face masks. Caught it on the BBC news earlier today. They are already manufacturing and shipping thousands to local healthcare in Wales.

https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/royal-mint-make-medical-visors-nhs-2520782
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: jwi on March 29, 2020, 03:24:35 pm
The slow-down in Italy seems to be real, and is driven by a slow down in the Lombardy region, while the infection is still spreading fast in the Piedmont- and other central and southern regions. Google translate does a god job on this: https://www.avvenire.it/.../un-mese-di-covid19-adesso-si... (google translate Italian > French seems almost perfect and Italian > English produce acceptable text as well)

Overall the article is an educational read.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Duma on March 29, 2020, 04:19:11 pm
Link doesn't work for me?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on March 29, 2020, 04:27:14 pm
https://www.avvenire.it/attualita/pagine/un-mese-di-covid19-adesso-si-vede-una-luce
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Duma on March 29, 2020, 05:09:49 pm
Thanks offwidth (and jwi)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 29, 2020, 05:24:55 pm
Our neighbour who works from home for a wine wholesaler is being furloughed on Monday. And has just been distributing some of his excess stock to the roads residents!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on March 30, 2020, 12:17:14 am
Thanks offwidth (and jwi)

It's all jwi... I just tidied up a link :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Stu Littlefair on March 30, 2020, 08:00:54 am
This probably would have happened anyway, given the spectacular lack of common sense disallayed by the protagonist. But let’s add it to the tally.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/mar/30/astrophysicist-gets-magnets-stuck-up-nose-while-inventing-coronavirus-device
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: TobyD on March 30, 2020, 08:23:58 am
This probably would have happened anyway, given the spectacular lack of common sense disallayed by the protagonist. But let’s add it to the tally.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/mar/30/astrophysicist-gets-magnets-stuck-up-nose-while-inventing-coronavirus-device

Ha, I saw that and thought of you!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 30, 2020, 08:31:36 am
I did wonder if it was a ‘Ive got this friend’ post... :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Stu Littlefair on March 30, 2020, 08:34:21 am
I do know him, very vaguely. We are occasionally on conference calls together. But what I like about this story is that it could easily have been any one of my colleagues.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 30, 2020, 08:56:48 am
He's going to have the piss taken out him for eternity.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: petejh on March 30, 2020, 10:19:31 am
 Brilliant! :lol:

“I’m actually getting a lot of work done,” he said. “Working remotely is not that bad. We are also renovating our house, so I am building shelves, making furniture and doing some tiling.”  :o
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on March 30, 2020, 10:21:56 am
So not all the magnets end up in the same place.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/29/government-set-to-cap-university-admissions-amid-covid-19-chaos
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 30, 2020, 11:58:51 am
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/29/government-set-to-cap-university-admissions-amid-covid-19-chaos

I would very much welcome this.

Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: duncan on March 30, 2020, 01:23:36 pm
Three weeks ago Camden, my patch, had the second-highest rate of Coronovirus in the UK, just behind Kensington and Chelsea. A function of a mobile and affluent population (half-term skiing holidays in Italy and the means to get tested through private healthcare)?

It's now 51st in the UK. My sense is we were social isolation early adopters (being affluent helps) and it's a local indication that this stuff really does works.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 30, 2020, 02:24:42 pm
How is "patch" classified? District, Postcode, Constituency?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: JamieG on March 30, 2020, 02:47:02 pm
Urination boundary?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: duncan on March 30, 2020, 02:56:57 pm
How is "patch" classified? District, Postcode, Constituency?

Local authority. Coronavirus data from here (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/coronavirus-uk-how-many-confirmed-cases-are-in-your-area). Camden seems to have fallen again, to 55th in the UK, since I checked yesterday. Wish I'd taken a screenshot of this three weeks ago.  Local authorities vary in size (http://demographia.com/db-englar.htm) and as Camden is 72nd most populous it is still slightly over-represented in coronavirus cases. I'm interested in how it has sank in the league table compared to other UK local authorities over the last couple of weeks.   
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on March 30, 2020, 03:47:47 pm
Thanks, I'd not seen that
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Duma on March 31, 2020, 01:09:26 pm
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

The daily cases graph looks pretty positive
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on March 31, 2020, 05:54:19 pm
Listening to the Governor of NY state on the BBC news channel at about 16.45 today I was amazed to hear him say there is no public and private hospital split anymore, or internal-state regional splits, anymore. All efforts, capacity and equipment will be coordinated and shared fairly state wide. If one link of the chain breaks, other links can no longer say that's nothing to do with them, as the chain is still broken.

They need to be careful as it might catch on and produce a 'socialist' health system, like the NHS.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Doylo on March 31, 2020, 08:57:26 pm
Its relentless isnt it Doylo...

Sure you've tried it but this worked for us then: Morning - breakfast - play indoors - try and do something active outside. Early lunch 11:30-12. Maybe in the pram see if she'll drop off?

Daddy day care update- my life’s not my own, can’t achieve anything when she’s there, very draining and the days feel quite long. Tried to trim the trees outside before and she was moaning for the secateurs within seconds (I’m sure most kids would just play with all the toys). Daily walks are usually an epic. She was stomping down the middle of the road on the estate (not many cars at mo) then meltdown when I made her get on the pavement. I can’t eat anything when she’s around as she wants it.  Had a moment of realisation when I made myself a slice of bread and butter and she came running into the kitchen moaning when she saw me with it. The Mrs said you could have warned me. So my life is now in a place where I have to send out a warning beacon to eat a slice of bread. Sums it up. Having said all that I’d probably be a lot more bored without the Monster!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Will Hunt on March 31, 2020, 09:01:39 pm
I consider it a victory if I manage to eat all my breakfast to myself. I normally have to sacrifice a mouthful of Weetabix. She doesn't kick off if she doesn't get it, but the look she gives you...

In all seriousness, though. Don't try and win every battle. When you can lose, it's OK to lose. Just make sure you win the war.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Doylo on March 31, 2020, 09:19:27 pm
I consider it a victory if I manage to eat all my breakfast to myself. I normally have to sacrifice a mouthful of Weetabix. She doesn't kick off if she doesn't get it, but the look she gives you...

In all seriousness, though. Don't try and win every battle. When you can lose, it's OK to lose. Just make sure you win the war.

Even if she’s eating exactly the same thing she still wants mine...  :shrug:
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on March 31, 2020, 09:30:16 pm
Two things keep me going during those times..

1. It’s just a phase.
2. They will stop (whatever tantrum/strop etc..) at some point
3. It’s only X hours until the Mrs gets back from work.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Doylo on March 31, 2020, 09:34:55 pm
Two things keep me going during those times..

1. It’s just a phase.
2. They will stop (whatever tantrum/strop etc..) at some point
3. It’s only X hours until the Mrs gets back from work.
1. If I had a pound for everytime I’ve heard that phrase.
2. Usually distraction / offer something else.
3. Doesn’t really end for me. Usually bugger off on Fridays though...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on March 31, 2020, 09:37:22 pm
Two things keep me going during those times..

1. It’s just a phase.
2. They will stop (whatever tantrum/strop etc..) at some point
3. It’s only X hours until the Mrs gets back from work.

The tantrums stop?

Fuck me bendy.

Fifteen years into this, not stopped yet.

The youngest (11, both of them) might be the worst, but the 13 and 15 year old can reeeeeally lay one on when they want.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on April 01, 2020, 06:53:11 am
#PPE4NHS

A local initiative to fill the gap while the government supply chain gets its PPE act together.

https://www.news-journal.co.uk/coronavirus-ppe-businesses-urged-to-support-mansfield-and-ashfield-appeal/
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Ged on April 01, 2020, 08:34:06 am
Given the huge reduction in cars and planes in use, would anybody in the know like to speculate how long this would need to go on for to see a significant drop in CO2 levels?  Diddly squat in just a few months?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: kingholmesy on April 01, 2020, 08:35:41 am
Chin up Doylo.  It does get easier (a bit).  I think the age your one is at is particularly hard work.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on April 01, 2020, 08:38:22 am
Chin up Doylo.  It does get easier (a bit).  I think the age your one is at is particularly hard work.

Yeah - really tough age. require constant effort. And may not nap. I use the TV (CBeebies) for a break (for me) mood control and generally as a lastish resort. Probably against all parenting manuals etc.. but sometimes just plonking then in front of Justin’s house for 30 min is the only way to keep sane.

We keep the streamed stuff as a special treat (and when you need an hour off letting ours mainline fireman Sam for a while isn’t too bad)

Edit. Another one I’m sure you know but routine routine routine. Do different things but have some things at same time every day. It also helps with your sanity knowing it’s only 10 min to lunch then you’re half way through etc...

Final edit. Even the model parent who seems to do everything perfectly and have a perfect child goes through all this shit - they just hide it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on April 01, 2020, 09:14:24 am
Chin up Doylo.  It does get easier (a bit).  I think the age your one is at is particularly hard work.

Agree. I have a video somewhere of my daughter then aged 2 rolling on the floor, naked, in rage , saying NO about 50 times, about something she'd long forgotten about.

CYB was our saying - Choose Your Battles.

At least all I have to do now they are older is school them in everything including Spanish. I've never spoke Spanish.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Stu Littlefair on April 01, 2020, 12:29:16 pm
This is good:

A bunch of academics, engineers and clinicians invented a new ventilator design that can be made from Arduinos and off-the-shelf spare parts.

After some faff, the government has ordered 6000 that will be ready within a week.

https://twitter.com/queenchristina_/status/1245280359748636672?s=21

Fantastic news and has the added benefit of making Dyson look pathetic.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: i.munro on April 01, 2020, 02:02:09 pm
Given the huge reduction in cars and planes in use, would anybody in the know like to speculate how long this would need to go on for to see a significant drop in CO2 levels?  Diddly squat in just a few months?

I'm not an climatologist but from a basic physics POV I I can't see how it could drop.
Rise a lot slower yes.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: petejh on April 01, 2020, 02:19:37 pm
Wouldn't it be possible if: the rate of absorption of (human caused) CO2 was greater than the rate of emission of (human-caused) CO2?
I have no idea if this is likely or even possible during this global slowdown.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 01, 2020, 02:25:55 pm
Wouldn't it be possible if: the rate of absorption of (human caused) CO2 was greater than the rate of emission of (human-caused) CO2?
I have no idea if this is likely or even possible during this global slowdown.

The rate that stuff in my garden is growing back, having just been hacked down?
It’s possible.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on April 01, 2020, 03:07:36 pm
Given the huge reduction in cars and planes in use, would anybody in the know like to speculate how long this would need to go on for to see a significant drop in CO2 levels?  Diddly squat in just a few months?

I'm not an climatologist but from a basic physics POV I I can't see how it could drop.
Rise a lot slower yes.

Sure it can drop. Put sinply something has to be sequestering CO2 or else it would just spiral out of control.

I suspect the big drops will come in 6 months time when we’re all consuming far less - so less will be built , mined, made in factories etc etc...

Traffic reduction and only 10% of air traffic will also make a difference too.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on April 01, 2020, 03:10:06 pm
Not to mention a huge amount of industry either shut down, or operating at lower volumes.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: petejh on April 01, 2020, 03:15:33 pm
Less hot air emitted by climbers on instagram..


Being serious, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bounce in emissions post-covid. This is a short-term event in the big picture. Provided the economy isn't demolished beyond a certain point.

For e.g. I doubt I'm alone in looking forward to flying short-haul somewhere nice as soon as reasonable to do so.


Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on April 01, 2020, 04:08:45 pm
Final edit. Even the model parent who seems to do everything perfectly and have a perfect child goes through all this shit - they just hide it.

Or just lie about it. Get used to this btw, it doesn't end.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: TobyD on April 01, 2020, 04:32:30 pm
Less hot air emitted by climbers on instagram..


Being serious, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bounce in emissions post-covid. This is a short-term event in the big picture. Provided the economy isn't demolished beyond a certain point.

For e.g. I doubt I'm alone in looking forward to flying short-haul somewhere nice as soon as reasonable to do so.

If there are many short haul airlines still in business.... I can't see the government bailing out easyJet for example. Everyone's obviously going to be driving around like anything seeing all the friends and family they haven't seen for many weeks.


On an actually positive note, the story in the news about goats running riot in Llandudno made me laugh, although perhaps it wouldn't if I lived there...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Duma on April 01, 2020, 04:36:34 pm
I can't see the government bailing out easyJet for example.

Interested in why you think this?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on April 01, 2020, 04:58:53 pm

If there are many short haul airlines still in business.... I can't see the government bailing out easyJet for example. Everyone's obviously going to be driving around like anything seeing all the friends and family they haven't seen for many weeks.


I think international travel will be one of the last things to be eased back and restrictions released, and one of the things people will most likely shy away from for longer. I don't expect to be able to go abroad this summer.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: i.munro on April 01, 2020, 08:15:07 pm
Given the huge reduction in cars and planes in use, would anybody in the know like to speculate how long this would need to go on for to see a significant drop in CO2 levels?  Diddly squat in just a few months?

I'm not an climatologist but from a basic physics POV I I can't see how it could drop.
Rise a lot slower yes.

Sure it can drop. Put sinply something has to be sequestering CO2 or else it would just spiral out of control.


Yes obviously but we have to assume that, before humans started burning fossil fuels, the  rate of  sequestration was in in balance with the rate of production by e.g decomposition or the atmosphere would either be entirely CO2 or there wouldn't have been any. Therefore if all fossil-fule burning were to stop, and we are nowhere near that, then that balance would resume and the % of CO2 would become constant again. The snag here is that clearly there was a feedback system working of some sort e.g more CO2 = warmer weather= more plant growth to maintain this stability over such a long period and we don't know whether we are still wiithin the range of temps where that feedback loop will work.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on April 01, 2020, 08:28:52 pm
There are feedback loops that work in the favour of CO2 sequestration - plant growth increases with more CO2 in the atmosphere - and so more plants available to absorb CO2 etc...

Brazils present policy to the rain forest isn’t helping matters...

If we’re after another global affliction to help with climate change - then a tasty large volcanic eruption would help - a Pinutubo or larger event. That would drop global temps for a couple of years...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Muenchener on April 01, 2020, 10:33:05 pm
Yes obviously but we have to assume that, before humans started burning fossil fuels, the  rate of  sequestration was in in balance with the rate of production by e.g decomposition or the atmosphere would either be entirely CO2 or there wouldn't have been any. Therefore if all fossil-fule burning were to stop, and we are nowhere near that, then that balance would resume and the % of CO2 would become constant again.

That's also my total layman's based-on-no-actual-knowledge assumption. Carbon that was in a tree last week, gets burned today and will be in a tree again next week surely can't be causing any net change. It's carbon that was in trees hundreds of millions of years ago, was buried safely underground, and is now being put back into circulation, that's the problem.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: teestub on April 01, 2020, 10:47:06 pm

Yes obviously but we have to assume that, before humans started burning fossil fuels, the  rate of  sequestration was in in balance with the rate of production by e.g decomposition or the atmosphere would either be entirely CO2 or there wouldn't have been any.

CO2 is at it's highest levels for 14 million years apparently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere but has been 10 times higher in the (distant) past and 5 times higher when the dinosaurs were knocking about.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: cheque on April 02, 2020, 08:51:09 am
Could the recent discussion be split into a “COVID-19 & Carbon Emissions” thread please?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: sherlock on April 02, 2020, 06:14:31 pm
After years of cajoling and hinting, Mrs S. has finally got down and dirty with  the BM ....and she's loving it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: GazM on April 02, 2020, 07:27:49 pm
Come on Anne! :strongbench:
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on April 02, 2020, 08:14:54 pm
Good cheering in M20 for the NHS just now.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 02, 2020, 08:27:02 pm
Good cheering in M20 for the NHS just now.

Yeah, we went out.
Not reeeaaally my thing, exactly, but the kids are well into it. The Eldest Boy was a tad enthusiastic with saucepans; which I thought might annoy the street.

Actually a few went back in and grabbed their own pans.

A metric shit tonne of fireworks tonight too. People were prepared.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on April 02, 2020, 09:02:42 pm
Hope they got those fireworks mail order :D
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: petejh on April 02, 2020, 09:43:37 pm
Yeah could hear the sound of clapping drifting across my neighbourhood this evening, very nice.

Home fireworks to applaud the NHS though.... bit like buying a round of drinks to salute Alcoholics Anonymous
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: TobyD on April 02, 2020, 10:46:18 pm
Good cheering in M20 for the NHS just now.

This is all very nice, but honestly I think that me and very many of the people who work for the NHS, or indeed people in general, just really want everyone to concentrate on staying at home and not going out unless it's really necessary. I really hope this weekend doesn't see hundreds of muppets out thinking that they'll all be the only one who is going to walk from edale, or wherever.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: TobyD on April 02, 2020, 10:48:50 pm

Home fireworks to applaud the NHS though.... bit like buying a round of drinks to salute Alcoholics Anonymous

  :lol:
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on April 03, 2020, 09:29:45 am
Woody now complete!!!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on April 03, 2020, 10:03:54 am
Woody now complete!!!!

Pictures please! To keep the psyche going!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on April 03, 2020, 10:35:53 am
Worldometer have added a column that shows deaths per million.  Netherlands (first death March 6th) is currently at twice the UK rate (first death March 5th) and Sweden (first death March 11th) already at 3/4 our rate.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

.... and John Crace being positive about a tory minister in this crisis (nearly choked on my coffee)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/02/words-i-thought-id-never-write-thank-god-for-matt-hancock
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on April 03, 2020, 11:09:30 am
Woody now complete!!!!

Pictures please! To keep the psyche going!

See Facebook?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: cheque on April 04, 2020, 09:40:30 am
I transferred the last of my old band recordings/ DJ mixes Minidiscs onto the computer last night.

Say what you like about lockdown, it’s fantastic for getting round to things you’ve been meaning to do for ages.  ;D Absolutely loving being in my studio at the moment.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on April 04, 2020, 02:05:47 pm
BBC news just now.. Jon Griffin completed everest climb on his own stairs to raise money for the foodbank Trussel Trust

https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/john-griffin19
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on April 06, 2020, 09:53:28 am
I really hope this weekend doesn't see hundreds of muppets out thinking that they'll all be the only one who is going to walk from edale, or wherever.

If the news reports are anything to go by, clearly disappointing.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: petejh on April 06, 2020, 10:59:39 am
First home haircut in a loooong time. Saved £12  8)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: James Malloch on April 06, 2020, 11:07:53 am
First home haircut in a loooong time. Saved £12  8)

Going to have to do the same myself soon...

One big positive for me is that I’m finally doing some core & shoulder work! I never do these and now that I’m without any climbing things I’m getting close to holding a tucked planche. It’s amazing how quickly you can make gains having never targeted things before!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on April 08, 2020, 01:54:35 pm
 Success in Faroes:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/08/vetinary-scientist-hailed-faroe-islands-lack-covid-19-deaths
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Bradders on April 08, 2020, 02:15:30 pm
My dog (3 years 10 months old) has finally worked out how to play fetch! He's always just kept anything thrown for him before, but seems to have finally twigged that bringing it back is more fun. Pure joy.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: duncan on April 08, 2020, 05:16:07 pm
So it is possible to teach an old dog new tricks!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Yossarian on April 08, 2020, 07:41:51 pm
On that note...

 https://youtu.be/YJasTIPtmFU (https://youtu.be/YJasTIPtmFU)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: TobyD on April 09, 2020, 09:32:25 am
Several news reports today that wild flowers will do really well as councils aren't mowing verges at the moment. 
BBC News - Coronavirus: Lockdown 'could boost wild flowers'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-52215273
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: 36chambers on April 09, 2020, 09:44:40 am
My dog (3 years 10 months old) has finally worked out how to play fetch! He's always just kept anything thrown for him before, but seems to have finally twigged that bringing it back is more fun. Pure joy.

Mine has recently mastered the art of the last second serve. She's such a tease.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Bradders on April 09, 2020, 10:13:01 am
My dog (3 years 10 months old) has finally worked out how to play fetch! He's always just kept anything thrown for him before, but seems to have finally twigged that bringing it back is more fun. Pure joy.

Mine has recently mastered the art of the last second serve. She's such a tease.

As in she nearly comes back and then at the last second runs off again? Yeah. Nearly 4 years of that  ::) :lol:

What breed is she?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on April 09, 2020, 10:22:12 am
 NZ sex toy volumes doing well! (put that down fido!?)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/sex-toy-sales-triple-during-new-zealands-coronavirus-lockdown

Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: 36chambers on April 09, 2020, 10:24:43 am
My dog (3 years 10 months old) has finally worked out how to play fetch! He's always just kept anything thrown for him before, but seems to have finally twigged that bringing it back is more fun. Pure joy.

Mine has recently mastered the art of the last second serve. She's such a tease.

As in she nearly comes back and then at the last second runs off again? Yeah. Nearly 4 years of that  ::) :lol:

What breed is she?

"last second *swerve". Yeah, exactly that :)

A Springer-Poodle.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on April 09, 2020, 11:23:51 am
Private Eye is online at last :great:

https://www.private-eye.co.uk/issue-1519/news?fbclid=IwAR2uZUhbGVdYwnXhEhDy3uZ1UvpCnKsRWbMG_GIBVdTxI4jzisR8cfOlHUQ
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: TobyD on April 09, 2020, 10:30:06 pm
Could coronavirus spell the end for superhero movies?

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/apr/09/superhero-movies-coronavirus-marvel-cinematic-universe-dc-comics?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

We can only hope so.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Paul B on April 10, 2020, 05:22:21 pm
My professional body is about to drag itself up to date by offering remote professional reviews. It's always made me chuckle that one of the things they require is candidates to be abreast of cutting edge technology and innovation yet applications are made by paper form, scanning and emailing. Some parts of the application that are digital (mainly a report) are then printed and posted to the reviewers (my better half has volunteered before) regardless of whether that person requires a hardcopy. The process requires other (generally more senior colleagues) to submit supporting evidence on your behalf and there's no way of seeing if this has been done (you're not allowed to see it).

NZ sex toy volumes doing well! (put that down fido!?)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/sex-toy-sales-triple-during-new-zealands-coronavirus-lockdown

I just tried to link to a tweet I saw with someone complaining they broke their dildo in the first few days of lockdown. The tweet is  now unavailable  ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: danm on April 10, 2020, 11:38:58 pm
Got an allotment in September with a small group of other climbers, in the full expectation that it would be a bit of a shambles as whenever the weather was decent we'd all bin it off to go climbing. My dream scenario was we'd clear the overgrown mess we'd inherited and maybe clear half of it for growing. As of today we have 9 raised beds, a long row of cold frame, potatoes and asparagus planted and some raspberry canes and a fruit tree planted. First crops of shallots and spring onions ready soon and some spinach. Feel half ready for the apocalypse...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on April 11, 2020, 10:22:09 am
You do realise in any apocalypse gangs will raid allotments and steal everything. Great for more normal times though.

Another plus I forgot to link ealier: most of the FT coverage is no longer paywalled.

https://www.ft.com/coronavirusfree
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 11, 2020, 10:55:31 am
You do realise in any apocalypse gangs will raid allotments and steal everything. Great for more normal times though.

Another plus I forgot to link ealier: most of the FT coverage is no longer paywalled.

https://www.ft.com/coronavirusfree

They’ll be quite busy raiding leather and bondage shops for the first few weeks, followed by the customising of overly engined vehicles.

So, you’d probably get a whole growing season in before they remember they’re hungry.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on April 11, 2020, 11:17:04 am
Wondered why I couldn’t get a supercharger for a v8 Holden for love or for money at the moment...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on April 11, 2020, 11:49:35 am
You do realise in any apocalypse gangs will raid allotments and steal everything. Great for more normal times though.

Another plus I forgot to link ealier: most of the FT coverage is no longer paywalled.

https://www.ft.com/coronavirusfree

They’ll be quite busy raiding leather and bondage shops for the first few weeks, followed by the customising of overly engined vehicles.

So, you’d probably get a whole growing season in before they remember they’re hungry.

You forgot the theft of garish coloured make up!

Our daily walk often takes us along the border of the St Ann's allotments one of the biggest city sites in the world .. a pheasant popped through the border into our path yesterday... inner city Nottingham eh. Ten years back the news in St Anns was all guns and knives.

http://renewaltrust.co.uk/what-we-do/st-anns-allotments/

https://stannswellroad.weebly.com/allotments---hungerhill-gardens.html
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: duncan on April 11, 2020, 06:24:48 pm
Yoga is officially lying on the ground...pretending to exercise (https://twitter.com/bexmo/status/1248588173447442432?s=21). The Met. have my complete support. It’s just a shame they have no jurisdiction over sponsored climbers desperately trying keep their social media followers.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 11, 2020, 07:36:30 pm

They’ll be quite busy raiding leather and bondage shops for the first few weeks, followed by the customising of overly engined vehicles.


I'm on it
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Will Hunt on April 11, 2020, 11:21:11 pm
Yoga is officially lying on the ground...pretending to exercise (https://twitter.com/bexmo/status/1248588173447442432?s=21). The Met. have my complete support. It’s just a shame they have no jurisdiction over sponsored climbers desperately trying keep their social media followers.

That thread is really depressing.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 11, 2020, 11:55:58 pm
Yoga is officially lying on the ground...pretending to exercise (https://twitter.com/bexmo/status/1248588173447442432?s=21). The Met. have my complete support. It’s just a shame they have no jurisdiction over sponsored climbers desperately trying keep their social media followers.

That thread is really depressing.

I found it a bit of a stretch.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: i.munro on April 12, 2020, 11:08:42 am
Here in France they just announced that the road death figures for March are the lowest for decades. I guess the numbers of people dying from air pollution will be similarly reduced.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on April 12, 2020, 05:28:11 pm
Yoga is officially lying on the ground...pretending to exercise (https://twitter.com/bexmo/status/1248588173447442432?s=21). The Met. have my complete support. It’s just a shame they have no jurisdiction over sponsored climbers desperately trying keep their social media followers.

That thread is really depressing.

I found it a bit of a stretch.

I’d have hoped the police could have been more flexible.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 12, 2020, 05:52:17 pm
Yoga is officially lying on the ground...pretending to exercise (https://twitter.com/bexmo/status/1248588173447442432?s=21). The Met. have my complete support. It’s just a shame they have no jurisdiction over sponsored climbers desperately trying keep their social media followers.

That thread is really depressing.

I found it a bit of a stretch.

I’d have hoped the police could have been more flexible.

Pull the other one...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: danm on April 12, 2020, 08:32:40 pm
You do realise in any apocalypse gangs will raid allotments and steal everything. Great for more normal times though.

Not once the guard towers go up they won't.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on April 13, 2020, 02:51:53 pm
Yoga is officially lying on the ground...pretending to exercise (https://twitter.com/bexmo/status/1248588173447442432?s=21). The Met. have my complete support. It’s just a shame they have no jurisdiction over sponsored climbers desperately trying keep their social media followers.

That thread is really depressing.

I found it a bit of a stretch.

I’d have hoped the police could have been more flexible.

They must be getting a bit tied up to be fair. I'm sure you can twist their arm in some instances.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tc on April 13, 2020, 09:57:37 pm
Here in France they just announced that the road death figures for March are the lowest for decades. I guess the numbers of people dying from air pollution will be similarly reduced.

Did you watch Macron's address this evening? It seems that France has an adult in charge.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on April 14, 2020, 07:55:51 am
(https://i.imgur.com/FOQQWKQ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Our road. Normally full of Residents cars - and despite being a cul de sac - with a nearby mosque a regular stream of cars coming and going.

For the last 3-4  weeks it’s been blissfully quiet - and yesterday (most) of the residents got together and moved their cars somewhere else so the kids could use the road for their bikes/scootering 👍👍

Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: ben on April 15, 2020, 11:31:08 am
https://www.iflscience.com/environment/himalayan-peaks-visible-parts-india-first-time-decades-thanks-covid-lockdown/
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 21, 2020, 05:33:25 pm
What we've been doing on our street

https://youtu.be/d6ekBif5Bc8
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on April 21, 2020, 06:52:07 pm
What we've been doing on our street

https://youtu.be/d6ekBif5Bc8

I’d join in, but there really isn’t enough beer available here, not to mention that, if I’d had enough to join in, I wouldn’t be able to join in...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: i.munro on April 22, 2020, 09:32:56 am
Here in France they just announced that the road death figures for March are the lowest for decades. I guess the numbers of people dying from air pollution will be similarly reduced.

Did you watch Macron's address this evening? It seems that France has an adult in charge.

Sorry only just spotted this one! I;ve seen a few now. He can certainly deliver a speech well but that seems a pretty low bar for a politician. Performance-wise I'm less-impressed. Death figures in France are still higher than the UK (ok largely because they're being more honest about the numbers  as far as I can tell) but being slightly less incompetent than Boris Pfeffel Incompetence-is-my-middle-name Johnson isn't saying much either. I lived in London when he was mayor so I'm well aware how toweringly, monumentally incompetent he is.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on April 22, 2020, 04:39:07 pm
https://time.com/5824644/germany-coronavirus-solar/

Does anyone feel things might be lining up for a major paradigm shift? I realise great weather is a factor too
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: abarro81 on April 22, 2020, 05:02:21 pm
There are upsides and downsides for solar from covid-related effects. As a very brief summary: who the hell knows. For solar:
Upsides
- PV panels are mostly bulk materials costs nowadays. Global recession probably means lower commodities prices. Cheaper aluminium, silver, copper, oil-derived chemicals etc = cheaper solar panels
- Economic stimulus packages may favour renewables


Downsides
- Lockdowns have logistics effects that reduce short-term demand, especially in the residential market. Major downturn in residential right now. Global PV installations this year likely to be down on last year (this is a rare occurrence)
- Lower power prices in play into models for how profitable projects will be. Minor effect unless you think it's a long-term thing as these are 25+yr assets anyway.
- Economic stimulus packages may not favour renewables (e.g. US one recently went through but the solar lobby failed to get extension for tax credits attached)
- Recession normally means strong $, which makes finance harder in developing countries
- Project finance may get harder to obtain in a recession (especially in some markets, e.g. tax credits may become less appealing)

Overall I'd day 2020 is likely to be weak for solar investments, 2021 onwards is v uncertain and will depend a lot on stimulus packages
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: gme on April 22, 2020, 06:17:06 pm
What we've been doing on our street

https://youtu.be/d6ekBif5Bc8

That’s great. Say hi to Charlie and joe from me. Know them for years and had no idea you lived on the same street. If you could bottle her energy we wouldn’t need oil anymore.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on April 22, 2020, 06:56:57 pm
I could imagine a brash shouty person from some think tank or other rattling off that précis on wake up to money etc... 😂

Maybe I’m being optimistic - but people might actually choose renewables more having enjoyed the 3-6 months of a cleaner quieter world that we’re all living in at the moment.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: abarro81 on April 22, 2020, 07:07:02 pm
Mine? Ha. Probably not written in my normal "that's a load of bollocks and you're all morons" style as I'm in work territory here - forecasting the cost of PV panels is about 50% of my job
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: lagerstarfish on April 23, 2020, 06:35:14 am

That’s great. Say hi to Charlie and joe from me. Know them for years and had no idea you lived on the same street. If you could bottle her energy we wouldn’t need oil anymore.

I will.

They are across the road from us.

 :dance1:
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: rich d on April 23, 2020, 10:19:05 am
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_S_GKvHO5Q/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Not sure about inserting videos, so it's just a link,but this is something we put together for our karate friends, reached out to different clubs and friends and then we put it together. Made us smile anyway when we can't be training together.
Cheers Rich
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on April 23, 2020, 10:50:00 am
There are upsides and downsides for solar from covid-related effects. As a very brief summary: who the hell knows. For solar:
Upsides
- PV panels are mostly bulk materials costs nowadays. Global recession probably means lower commodities prices. Cheaper aluminium, silver, copper, oil-derived chemicals etc = cheaper solar panels

For bulk electricity generation the efficiency of the PV systems also matters and as per any electrical systems the economies of scale as production grows (ditto for wind). The recent cost drops for equivalent /kWh bulk generation have been massive and don't look to be slowing to a stop any time soon. Another key cost factor for bulk solar (and wind) is energy storage due to the fluctuations in output (the cost of battery or equivalent storage systems). This really is a game changer in the coming decade as oil and gas simply look increasingly uncompetitive, except for fast grid balancing.

https://www.businessinsider.com/solar-power-cost-decrease-2018-5?r=US&IR=T

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source

There are some nice visualisations here:

https://ourworldindata.org/renewable-energy

Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Duma on April 23, 2020, 06:22:46 pm
Sorry for continuing the ot, but prompt power is what I do. Large scale oil is not a thing in this country, and hasn't been for a decade. Gas will be around for a decade at least as a big contributor.
Grid scale battery tech will change everything. Once that scales there'll be a step change
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Fultonius on April 24, 2020, 11:13:19 am
Sorry for continuing the ot, but prompt power is what I do. Large scale oil is not a thing in this country, and hasn't been for a decade. Gas will be around for a decade at least as a big contributor.
Grid scale battery tech will change everything. Once that scales there'll be a step change

Heard an interesting talk from the head of development at National Grid last year, she was pointing out that while there are technical issues to solve with integration of lots of electric vehicles, there's also a huge potential (60 to 70kwh per house as easily tapped storage). Obviously, this mainly only serves the short term storage issue. It's the longer term storage that was (is) the tough nut to crack. The scale of storage required for 4 or 5 days of low wind in the UK is pretty huge. Again, more interconnection to bulk solar would help.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: petejh on April 24, 2020, 03:02:55 pm
Gigantic solar ships, moored offshore? Could also have turbines on their hulls?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Paul B on April 24, 2020, 03:42:43 pm
Gigantic solar ships, moored offshore? Could also have turbines on their hulls?

We got asked to look at a floating array on one of our schemes but the company quickly revised that when it turned out that their first attempt sat just at or below the water level and the birds weren't seeing it. Carnage.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: petejh on April 24, 2020, 03:48:54 pm
Gigantic solar ships, moored offshore? Could also have turbines on their hulls?

We got asked to look at a floating array on one of our schemes but the company quickly revised that when it turned out that their first attempt sat just at or below the water level and the birds weren't seeing it. Carnage.

Also thinking about it a massive floating offshore solar array would probably quickly turn into a massive floating guano-covered solar array offshore. Although you could employ a couple of Peregrines to conduct combat air patrols.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: teestub on April 24, 2020, 03:49:45 pm
Perfect for the roped access industry!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: 36chambers on May 07, 2020, 12:20:51 pm
I've finally thought of a positive thing, for myself, from the lockdown.

I have spent my entire adult life wanting a moustache, but I never knew if I could actually grow one.

After 5 weeks of isolated effort, I now know the answer!


Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on May 07, 2020, 12:44:45 pm
I've finally thought of a positive thing, for myself, from the lockdown.

I have spent my entire adult life wanting a moustache, but I never knew if I could actually grow one.

After 5 weeks of isolated effort, I now know the answer!

:D I did a (related) first yesterday. For the first time in my 50 years I trimmed my beard!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on May 07, 2020, 06:41:06 pm
I'm contemplating a Travis Bickle cut for a laugh for a few days, might see how much I can raise for charity..
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: teestub on May 07, 2020, 07:06:21 pm

After 5 weeks of isolated effort, I now know the answer!

Don’t leave us hanging without a pic!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Will Hunt on May 07, 2020, 07:18:35 pm

After 5 weeks of isolated effort, I now know the answer!

Don’t leave us hanging without a pic!

I gather that the null hypothesis could not be rejected.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: lagerstarfish on May 07, 2020, 09:34:38 pm
An unexpected consequence of this virus situation - the resurgence of the mountain bike drug dealers in town centres.

Dealers in cars soon run out of credible "essential travel" excuses for hanging around town, but someone on a bike is harder to intercept and can repeatedly claim that they are out to get their daily exercise.

Obviously, drug dealers are not a good thing generally, but I like the retro feel of seeing them wheeling about town.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on May 15, 2020, 08:45:01 am
Been forcing myself to take my DSLR out on daily walks, with a different lens each day and got some photos I'm pretty pleased with. I'd fallen out of love with it for a while..
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Duma on May 15, 2020, 03:51:50 pm
I'm ~2kg lighter, not sure why, it's def not from drinking less. Maybe more running.
I've seen a lot more of spring unfolding around my neighbourhood than I normally would, which has been fantastic.
I've built a board, along with various other playing with wood stuff, and remembered how much I love it.
And (selfishly) I've had significantly more time than normal with my daughter.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: nik at work on May 15, 2020, 04:14:16 pm
Nothing selfish about that
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Duma on May 15, 2020, 04:26:30 pm
Not sure she thinks that! I'm much stricter on homeschooling than her mum... (tbf she's working from home full time and I get lots of midweek days off.)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: andy popp on May 15, 2020, 05:10:39 pm
I was in a work Zoom meeting with 90 participants this morning. Not many had video on but one of the few that did suddenly got up, walked down a hallway, carrying his laptop facing him, placed the laptop down on the bathroom floor, pulled his pants down and sat on the toilet, obviously about to have a shit and in perfect view of everyone. When someone pointed out we were all watching his face showed this was not deliberate. Don't get me wrong, I don't need to see my colleagues taking a dump, but it was the highlight of the meeting.

Apparently a Danish school had to offer an apology this week after a teacher finished some Zoom teaching, failed to leave the meeting, and started having sex with someone.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Will Hunt on May 15, 2020, 05:18:18 pm
Someone. Anyone.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: andy popp on May 15, 2020, 05:21:25 pm
I was wondering too but didn't receive that information. I'm guessing not their spouse.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on May 15, 2020, 05:25:25 pm
Zoom basics. Mute Mic. Hide video.

This is what I made use of meeting time today 😂

https://youtu.be/JIqAg_36Pow
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Oldmanmatt on May 15, 2020, 06:42:53 pm
I was wondering too but didn't receive that information. I'm guessing not their spouse.

I suppose you can be reasonably sure it wasn’t a student...

I have completely re-carpeted the matting at the wall and will probably get the whole place repainted, possibly even remodelled and every hold washed.


I can’t think of anything that will make it any less likely that we ever reopen....
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: petejh on May 15, 2020, 09:30:26 pm
I was in a work Zoom meeting with 90 participants this morning. Not many had video on but one of the few that did suddenly got up, walked down a hallway, carrying his laptop facing him, placed the laptop down on the bathroom floor, pulled his pants down and sat on the toilet, obviously about to have a shit and in perfect view of everyone. When someone pointed out we were all watching his face showed this was not deliberate. Don't get me wrong, I don't need to see my colleagues taking a dump, but it was the highlight of the meeting.

Apparently a Danish school had to offer an apology this week after a teacher finished some Zoom teaching, failed to leave the meeting, and started having sex with someone.

Danish.. Was the apology because it wasn't hardcore enough?

Brilliant dump story!
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: cheque on May 16, 2020, 12:53:43 am
Apparently a Danish school had to offer an apology this week after a teacher finished some Zoom teaching, failed to leave the meeting, and started having sex with someone.

In my head the teacher is played by John Cleese.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Falling Down on May 16, 2020, 02:59:34 pm
Flippin' eck Andy - hilarious!

I've been able to get my little backyard sorted or veg and fruit.  New potatoes, tomatoes (cherry and big chunky ones), broccoli, artichoke, chard, courgette, rocket, parsley, coriander, mint, rosemary, strawberries, and dwarf mulberry.  Got some beans coming in the post too and will put out the lettuce soon.

We bought a home oyster mushroom kit so have had a bag sealed with straw and spores for four weeks. Tomorrow it gets opened and transferred to a porous bag to allow the mushrooms to grow.  Can't wait to see how they turn out.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: jwi on May 16, 2020, 09:04:38 pm

Apparently a Danish school had to offer an apology this week after a teacher finished some Zoom teaching, failed to leave the meeting, and started having sex with someone.

Why apologise? That doesn't sound very Danish at all. I am disappointed.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on May 16, 2020, 10:56:54 pm
Tomorrow it gets opened.

Must be pretty crowded in there at the moment...
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Andy F on May 18, 2020, 04:19:09 pm
Huge shout out to Fatneck for his sterling work: https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1262396438987841539?s=19
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: duncan on May 29, 2020, 11:52:56 am
Great stuff fatneck.

I may have a green light on moving out of London. Possibly deserves a thread for itself but this is very CV induced. We have friends in Marple Bridge which seems reassuringly pretentious for expat. north Londoners. Any work would be in Manchester and likely very part time so don’t mind a bit of a commute. Train to from Stockport to London seems pretty good. Gmaps suggests 2 hours to N Wales and 1.5 hours to the Yorkshire lime big three which sounds amazing and there is plenty of hillwalking for when I get really old.

Any thoughts on living in this part of the world?
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on May 29, 2020, 12:28:57 pm
Nice enough place...

It'll take you 30-45 min to get to Stockport station at rush hour (maybe longer..)...

30 min to the Tor, add another 10-15 min for the Eastern Edges. <1:30 to S. Lakes Lime.

Manchester (in general) has very little right on its doorstep (e.g. theres no Burbage 10 min drive away..) - but there are many many places within ~ hours drive away on many different rock types in many different settings.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Falling Down on May 29, 2020, 03:48:17 pm
Great news Duncan.  Errm Sam is in that neighbourhood so will be able to help.  I was close by in Buxworth for over fifteen years and I think that’s Ru’s neck of the woods too.

You’ve got a few crags very close by like New Mills Tors, Wingather etc. Then Glossop grit & Kinder during the Summer months.

Dead easy to get to Cheedale and the surrounding crags plus The Roaches area too.

Wales, Yorkshire The Lakes easy to get to in ~2 hrs.

A few home boards in the area once you get to know the place.

It’s a nice place for walking and generally getting outdoors.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Ru on May 29, 2020, 05:05:37 pm
I live in Marple Bridge as FD said. Reasonable-ish road commute into Manchester (depending on traffic) 20 mins by train. Stockport station takes you to London in 2 hours. 30 mins to the peak (depending on which bit), a smattering of nearer crags. About 1 hr 10 ish to yorkshire, 2 hours to wales, 2 hrs to lakes, 1 hr to lancs quarries. Marple Bridge is also reassuringly pretentious as you say.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: andy popp on May 30, 2020, 07:41:03 am
@fatneck, good effort lad.

@duncan, this sounds very good. Can't believe Tomtom hasn't mentioned sub one hour to Cheshire.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on May 30, 2020, 08:49:15 am
@fatneck, good effort lad.

@duncan, this sounds very good. Can't believe Tomtom hasn't mentioned sub one hour to Cheshire.

Shhh... :) not been post lockdown - though from Social Media looks like it’s been pretty busy (I fear for the state of the long wall in the woods.. parking issues at Harmers..)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: duncan on May 30, 2020, 11:32:56 am
Thanks everyone for taking the time to reply.  Sounds promising. I can happily live without crags 10 minutes away, it will still be hugely better from a climbing perspective than where I’m now. I’m most psyched at the prospect of climbing in The Lakes and Wales regularly again, the places I started in but have barely visited for the last 20 years. I have family in south Manchester which is a bonus.

Crucially, my wife likes the area, has friends there, and thinks it will work better for her than most places outside London. Obviously gentlemen of taste like Ru and FD living there is a recommendation in itself!

Putting this all into action right now will be a challenge, but so is any big change.
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Mike Highbury on May 30, 2020, 05:14:05 pm
I may have a green light on moving out of London...Any thoughts?

It is the most stupid, witless thing that I've heard in all of my life.
Mx
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: SA Chris on June 01, 2020, 10:15:08 am
There goes the neighbourhood :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: tomtom on June 01, 2020, 10:30:27 am
Three houses in our road moved here from London in the last 2-4 years (Didsbury) - and during lockdown distanced in the road sundowners have described their reasons for coming here “it was just like ‘Stokey’ in Manchester”. Hmm... 🤔
Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: Offwidth on July 04, 2020, 10:39:50 am
You can have a shower in a work meeting....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/03/man-offers-to-resign-after-showing-during-livestreamed-video-meeting

...as long as you remember to turn the camera off.

Title: Re: Coronavirus: Positive things that happen
Post by: andy popp on July 04, 2020, 10:42:55 am
A colleague of mine took a dump (or began to, at least) on camera during a Teams meeting. There were over 90 of us in the meeting.
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