[Andy W]

 This piece of writing got me thinking...Posted by Jasper Sharpe, on one of the other threads. Its by the loon D. Graham written excellently i thought and reminded me of Jack kerouac and particularly Henry Miller.
   
http://www.momentumvm.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=177&Itemid=43

I thought a thread where all things art/literary might be posted. My own interest that I'm working as an artist/boulder on a project in both sense down Penwith way, my line of enquiry is bouldering as mapping the landscape in maybe the same way that say Samuel Taylor Coleridge mapped out the lakes with waterfall maps.....and the way the aborignes in Oz mapped out lanscape in their own non representational manner.

However I would love to see if anyone else has got any references text along these lines, my other favourites which are sometimes very cringe making are Ed DRmmond on pretty much anything, some of Jim Perrin, John Redhead.

To get them in one thread would be cool.

[slackline]

Paul Pritchard's Deep Play is an excellent, lucid read (although not really about bouldering at all  ).

There are some interesting stories in John Sherman's Stone Crusade is more on topic though, but its more anecdotal stories about the scene in various areas of the US, rather than prose with an artistic lilt.

[grimer]

Hi Andy, don't know if you get it, but in Summit magazine there's a feature each month called The Art of Climbing, getting an artist to talk about their mountain or climbing-based art.

http://www.thebmc.co.uk/Feature.aspx?id=2480

Why don't you get in touch to see if your project / work is suitable for an article?

[Andy W]

Cheers for replies. I'm particularly interested in bouldering and the stuff that generally night be considered off the wall or pretentious or both! particularly concerned with the nitty gritty of the actual experience, which is why I liked the Dave Graham writing so much.

There must be stuff out there, I know mags don't generally run interesting stuff anymore, but its the why and the how that interests me, dare i say the metaphysical aspects of the bouldering experience.

[Houdini]

Here is my first bouldering Haiku:


Summer rock is hot
Sweat runs along my runnel
Tits out for the lads

 

[Houdini]

OK.  Hows about:



Bikini-clad minx
Slaps up to the undercut
I clutch my boner


 

[Houdini]

And here's the final third of my Bouldering Triptych:



Cold northerly wind
Makes Lauren Lee tog-up good
Here's to the summer


 

[Fiend]

Art about climbing?

Maybe climbing IS art...

[Somebody's Fool]

Bouldering poems
Changed art forever just like
Muzak in Kwiksave

[SA Chris]

Cold dry grit
sticks like shit
to a blanket

Theres some bouldering related ramblings in Stone Play http://www.stonecountry.co.uk/html/body_books.html

Or you could listen to Bernd Zangerl's blethering in Memento.

[Houdini]

Sorry Chris, but Haiku must not rhyme.  And must refence a season, in some form.  Cold ie winter does it.

Fool's meter/syllable count - what the Japs call "no" - is good though.



Walk On By is hard
Even w/ cool conditions
Those holds are quite small

[Andy W]

Sorry Chris, but Haiku must not rhyme.  And must refence a season, in some form.  Cold ie winter does it.

Fool's meter/syllable count - what the Japs call "no" - is good though.



Walk On By is hard
Even w/ cool conditions
Those holds are quite small

Its  'on' not 'no'  On (音) is a Japanese word corresponding to a sound; onji （音字）corresponds to "sound symbol".

.........intereseting this haiku stuff though, in the original post I mentioned the similarity between Dave Grahams writing and kerouac and of course kerouac spent quite a bit of time getting into Haiku's. See the Dharma Bums'.

[Houdini]

Typo!   

Kerouac spent more time getting into amphetamines.  Sorry haven't read the Graham stuff fully, won't either (a few lines were enough).  Pritchard is acceptable as it's not wacky, out-there, off-the-wall or pretentious.  I hate wacky writing. It's just decent working class prose. 

[Andy W]

Typo!   

Kerouac spent more time getting into amphetamines.  Sorry haven't read the Graham stuff fully, won't either (a few lines were enough).  Pritchard is acceptable as it's not wacky, out-there, off-the-wall or pretentious.  I hate wacky writing. It's just decent working class prose. 

Kerouac spent some time getting into quite a lot of things, not sure whether he spent more time on amphetamines or haiku's, hard to say


'Wacky' and 'out there' isn't something I am particularly interested in either. Seems that it's not only the Dave Graham text you didn't read.

[Houdini]

Just trying to say in plain English I thought the Graham stuff was gash.  And I don't buy for one minute the notion that Kerouac was a Haiku scholar.  He was an alcoholic mess.

JR is very definitely wacky. 

[GCW]

Houdini talks arse
He thinks he's cool but is not
What a total c**t

 

First attempt at the haka thing, apologies if it's rubbish.   

PS-  JR won't be happy with you, if he ever reappears on these fora.

[Houdini]

Not your best post Gareth . . .

[GCW]

No, I just re-read that and it hasn't come across as it was supposed to.
It was meant to be a witty play on your love of the C word, the use of "cool" in your last post, and the aggression of a Haka (play on words, eh).  But it sounds shit.

I can only apologise.   

EDIT:  And I wasn't drunk for once.  Maybe that was the problem?  So if a Mod wants to prune it feel free.
Otherwise leave it in place as a reminder to me to never try to write poetry.

[SA Chris]

Sorry Chris, but Haiku must not rhyme.  And must refence a season, in some form.  Cold ie winter does it.

Cold dry grit
sticks like shite
to a blanket

OK?

It wasn't really meant to be a haiku anyway, just part of an extended work;

Cold dry grit
sticks like shit
to a blanket

Don't pull on pebbles too hard
you retard
or they snap.

[webbo]

what a load of toss.
buy a finger board or some weights or even go climbing rather keep posting that load of crap.

[GCW]

A Haiku is suppose to be 3 lines, Webbo.
Better than my attempt though.

[slackline]

A Haiku is suppose to be 3 lines, Webbo.
Better than my attempt though.

what a load of toss.
buy a finger board or some weights or even go climbing
rather keep posting that load of crap.

[webbo]

i wouldn't know a haiku from a haddock.
but i know shit when i read it.

[SA Chris]

Kyle from South park wrote one for you webbo;

"Ass full of pork fat

jiggles like a jello mold

mouth is flapping too"

[GCW]

Against my better judgement, I'll try again:

The Sun is shining
We are sat typing bollocks
What a waste of life

What's the difference between an "on" and a syllable anyway?