you are using it to mean that at the minimum you feel British climbers are scum, but that there are others nationalities who may well fall into the "scummy" category. There is no implicit or explicit exemption of non-British climbers at all in this sentence. Now this may not have been the feeling you wished to convey,
Quote from: slack---line on April 21, 2008, 02:33:05 pm you are using it to mean that at the minimum you feel British climbers are scum, but that there are others nationalities who may well fall into the "scummy" category. There is no implicit or explicit exemption of non-British climbers at all in this sentence. Now this may not have been the feeling you wished to convey,Thankyou, that was exactly the clarification I wished to make as everyone then jumped from there to include"but other nationalities are wonderful" or "that specifically means me & I can show that I'm not" neither of which I meant or wrote.
For some reason Mr Munro thinks the continentals are angels? with his anti chalk rants, can any sane person who has seen the effect pof has on holds really be so oblivious to the facts! This pontificating is so bloody pointless anyway as all climbers operating at a reasonable standard use chalk in font or elsewhere anyway.I have met mr Munro he is a miserable twunt, he gave me a lecture about chalk abuse at some venue in font, i think you will find his admiration of the French is more to do with the auld alliance than anything else, he is Scottish afterall as he told me in a midlands accent.
Might I also suggest that in future people write what they mean as clearly as possible?
1.- All the boulders nears to the prehistorical painting are unclimbables. Don’t climb the boulders visibles from the mainroute or from the trails, also if you see old chalk tracks.
2.- The climbing is forbidden in the Sectors: Madriles/Acantilados, Psykokiller, Peninsula and Valle de Madera (only thebottom part) from January 10 to August 15, for nification of protected birds: take a few meters of respect distance, (Delimitationpanels installed on the access trails).On a general description are all the sectors that are closers to the Canyonsituated on North-East side of The Paisaje Protegido park.
3.- Minimize at maximum the visual impact of the magnesium on the rock: use only the indispensable quantity, brushbefore and after climbing and tleave all your garbage (cigarettes, fingers strap, ecc...). Possibly use eco-magnesium (withrock-similar colour pigment - see the Metolius one - )
4.- Parking only in the autorized areas (P signals), and don’t drive in forestal routes.Camping and light free fires arestrictly forbidden.
5- Don’t “paint” the boulders with stripes or other signs for your dynos! If is necessary, use an adhesive band or yourstrap and remove it after climbing. ABSOLUTELY don’t use POF or pine’s resine.
6- NEVER use metallic brushes, even on unclimbed boulders.
Its really quite simple, respect these 'rules' and encourage others to do so or fuck off somewhere else. Just because other climbers can be disrespectfull cocksuckers doesn't mean you have to follow suit. Just because people are Spanish it doesn't mean they're local to the crag and are going to behave well. We climbed with a 'local' guy who was part of the team who got it reopened and he was encouraging brushing overchalked holds, using tape for tick marks and not yelling and screaming. Brushing does make a difference, tape is better for tick marks as you leave the rock clean and don't have to rely on other peoples inaccurately marked ticks, and screaming in a nice quiet forest just pisses everyone else off. As for shit, well it seems most British climbers are pretty good at hiding their shit, so why can't we simply adhere to the other 'rules' stated on the BOULDERALBERRACIN.COM website and encourage others in your group to do so.