[Will Hunt]

One for the list makers. I always thought that, relative to the grade, Brad Pit and Deliverance look nowhere near what theyre supposed to be like in terms of difficulty. In photos Mr Smooth looks pretty easy too. I would like to say at this point that Ive not been up close to BP or Deliverance and have only seen piccies and video. I am also sure that no matter what they look like then BP would spank me and doubtless Deliverance would do the same. Any others?

[Steve R]

Joker?

[Will Hunt]

Interesting. I'm inclined to agree. It looks much harder than I can crank but not THAT hard.

[andy_e]

If you find Mr. Smooth hard then you're doing it wrong.

[philo]

vienna. looks easier than it is

[Stu Littlefair]

Funny - I would have said Brad Pit and Deliverance were the exact opposite of what you say. They look hard, but feel OK with practice and good beta.

The archetypical "looks piss but isn't" problem is WSS. Not steep, massive holds, bloody desperate.

[Doylo]

yeah brad pit looks well hard. Clutch on marine drive is a classic example.

[andy_e]

Isla De Encanta looks quite easy because the holds look good. When we pulled on, we realised they weren't.

[Vitamin K]

Anything on bleau.info - the number of problems that I've thought, 'hmmmm, looks piss'...

[Paul B]

vienna. looks easier than it is

I don't think so.

[Houdini]

The archetypical "looks piss but isn't" problem is WSS. Not steep, massive holds, bloody desperate.

Great minds etc..

[Sloper]

Another vote for WSS,

I'd also nominate

Famous Grouse, looks V5/6 it isn't.
Who needs ready brek
Mushin
La Balance
Left of El Sherman (mushroom boulder)
the Nose (burbage west)

[Jaspersharpe]

Anything on bleau.info - the number of problems that I've thought, 'hmmmm, looks piss'...

It's particularly misleading when you see a video of some Bleausard struggling like fuck on something that you've done and then the same bloke pissing something four grades harder. It would be easy to get the wrong idea..............

[Vitamin K]

It would indeed - funny how you get a smooth performance on very particular problems. It's just to piss the visitors off really.

There was  always (probably still is) some grumpy bloke stationed under Salle Gosse whose sole purpose in life was to make you angry. I hate that guy - he knows who he is.

[lagerstarfish]

WSS for sure
Deliverance Traverse
That 6c thing with the crack and pocket on The Sheep at Burb S
The 7a slab between the two aretes on the same block as Ben's Wall at RHS
Crescent Arete (looks like it should be much easier)
Buckstone Dyno
Shit at Higgar E
Play Hard (without the crack)
Strawberries at Curbar

Interesting that I think The Nose is far easier than it looks.

[Moo]

Picnic Sarcastic and Inaudible Vaudible on the bowderstone spring to mind also clash of the titans at st bees

[Paul B]

Y-front ramp at Bowden and the central cave line which tends right at the lip,. I've always thought both of probles look straightforward but they always give me a shock.

[Houdini]

Main Vein 7C @ Caseg.  Legs are too short for the usual method - impossible for me.  The 7C+ method is brutal boning. 

*spit*


Infact JR's Groove is 'kin hard for stumpies too, but looks so easy.    Oddly I'd give The Gimp oooh . . .   7A tops.

[Houdini]

The Big Smile 7C - desperate.  Looks easy.

Little Miss Dumpster Truck 7C - Looks easy.  Fucking horrid, easily H10.



Both Pass problems, counter all this peakism.

[philo]

Y-front ramp at Bowden and the central cave line which tends right at the lip,. I've always thought both of probles look straightforward but they always give me a shock.

is that the arete only one?

[Zods Beard]

WSS for sure
That 6c thing with the crack and pocket on The Sheep at Burb S
Strawberries at Curbar

Good call Lager, I still haven't done the problem on the sheep.

[Houdini]

L e    C o e u r   


Fucking desp', can't touch it, don't want to touch it, I've moved on - I'm over it . . .

*spit*

[205Chris]

That 7a+ arete thing at Higgar - Flying Arete I think it's called.

[Jim]

L e    C o e u r   


Fucking desp', can't touch it, don't want to touch it, I've moved on - I'm over it . . .

*spit*

your not wrong. well and truly had my pants down

[lagerstarfish]

That 7a+ arete thing at Higgar - Flying Arete I think it's called.

Yep, looks about 6a/b