[wintermute]

just wanted to draw on some collective knowledge quickly...........
supposedly its pissing it down in the peaks today, but forecast tomorrow is good.
is it likely to be worth a trip? specifically cratcliffe area, but is anything likely to be dry?
cheers

[GCW]

I predict some punterage.  PEAK is always a touchy subject here. 

[Johnny Brown]

I doubt it. Metoffice have been predicting a ridge tommorrow morning with rain returning by lunchtime. I'll be out in the morning but I'm not holding my breath for dry rock - its been raining solidly for a few days now.

And yes, its 'the peak'.

[Paul B]

it's been raining far too much, the Don is worryingly high once more!

[SA Chris]

Shit paul, i'm sure you could do without that! park car above HWM this time.

I'm sure this is the only time you encourage sandbagging! Good luck.

[Paul B]

I didn't get round to replacing it thankfully and the other car commutes to Wakefield daily so is currently safe. The problem we have in our building is that we have another little river (Kelham goit) running underneath which has a culvert draining into the Don, when the river gets up to above the top of the culvert (which it isn't far off) the goit starts backfilling and floods us from the centre. Whoever designed it needs a massive kick up the arse because its all wrong.

[Johnny Brown]

I work in this area, and heard a good story the other day about the last great flood back in victorian? times. Apparently all the bodies washed down and collected in an eddy in the brewery yard, where they remained for some time until they could be shovelled underground. Folk still report cold shivers as they cross the yard....

[Paul B]

Its funny I'd never even heard about this flood until searching for news articles on the more recent flood and finding loads of information. There is a historical information board down by the river right outside our flats which i'd never stopped to read, a few weeks ago I did, it's about the flood you mention, however it doesn't mention floating bodies strangely enough!

[Sloper]

It was pissing down in Matlock Bath until lunchtime and as of about 10 minutes ago was drizzling.

I doubt anywhere will be dry aound the south peak tomorrow.

[Jim]

I'm not sure what the weather in Tibet is but it has rained here for a month solidly

[Oli]

Not the south Peak, but I went for a ride this afternoon past Stanage, Curbar and Froggatt and everything looked absolutely soaked and it was still raining on the way back. So unless something drastic happens over night, as others have said, it's probably not worth a trip.

[Houdini]

G R A M M R A   !!!!   T h e   E . . . V E R   C o r r e c t i n g . . .     

[GCW]

Not really Grammar, is it Houd?

Besides, it's The Peak District, ergo The Peak.
The Yorkshire Dales= The Dales
But, it's The Lake District (because there's only one lake), so it should be The Lake, not The Lakes.

C'mon Grammra, what to do?

[Monolith]

But, it's The Lake District (because there's only one lake), so it should be The Lake, not The Lakes.

That's a good point. I bet all those 'Peak not Peaks' professors are guilty of said crime.

[Jim]

Guilty because of the quantity greater than 1 of lakes?

[Monolith]

Not sure what he means by that, but the principle that if you call the Peak District the Peak, then one should refer to the Lake District as The Lake. I cannot believe the boring wank coming out of my mouth...

[GCW]

Guilty because of the quantity greater than 1 of lakes?

I think Jim is saying ther's more than one Lake.  If I'm right, you are incorrect Jim.  Sorry.

[Houdini]

Not really Grammar, is it?

Spelling-ra doesn't have the same ring now does it?


Gramm-ra would almost certainly feast on wintermute's corpse.

[Houdini]

*reads thread*


Note to self:  kill a man tomorrow.

[GCW]

*reads thread*


Note to self:  kill a man tomorrow.

It only gets worse:  Kill 2 men now.

For example:


Alcock Tarn
Angle Tarn
Angle Tarn
Bassenthwaite Lake
Beacon Tarn
Blackbeck Tarn
Bleaberry Tarn
Blea Tarn
Blea Tarn
Blea Tarn
Blea Water
Blelham Tarn
Blind Tarn
Boretree Tarn
Bowscale Tarn
Brothers Water
Burnmoor Tarn
Buttermere
Chapelhouse Reservoir
Codale Tarn
Coniston Water
Crummock Water
Dale Head Tarn
Derwent Water
Devoke Water
Dock Tarn
Easedale Tarn
Elter Water
Ennerdale Water
Esthwaite Water
Floutern Tarn
Foxes Tarn
Goat's Water
Grasmere
Greendale Tarn
Grisedale Tarn
Gurnal Dubs
Harrop Tarn
Haweswater Reservoir
Hayeswater
High Dam Tarn
High House Tarn
Innominate Tarn
Kentmere Reservoir
Knipe Tarn
Lanty's Tarn
Levers Water
Lingmoor Tarn
Little Langdale Tarn
Little Tarn
Littlewater Tarn
Loughrigg Tarn
Loweswater
Low Tarn
Low Water
Meadley Reservoir
Moss Eccles Tarn
Over Water
Parkgate Tarn
Potter Tarn
Red Tarn
Red Tarn
Rydal Water
Scales Tarn
Schoolknott Tarn
Scoat Tarn
Seathwaite Tarn
Siney Tarn
Skeggles Water
Small Water
Sprinkling Tarn
Stickle Tarn
Styhead Tarn
Tarn at Leaves
Tarn Hows
Tewet Tarn
Thirlmere
Three Dubs Tarn
Three Tarns
Tosh Tarn
Ullswater
Wast Water
Watendlath Tarn
Wet Sleddale Reservoir
Windermere
Wise Een Tarn
Woodhow Tarn
Yew Tree Tarn

Lots of Tarns, Meres, Waters etc.  Only one Lake, hence The Lake Distict.
End of UKC style shite.


No, you won't get dry rock in the Peaks tomorrow.   

[Houdini]

*reads GCW's last post*



Note to self:  Kill GCW tomorrow.

[GCW]

 

[dave]

By that reconing the peak shouldn't be called the peak at all, since theres (probably) no hill in the peak called so-and-so peak. luckily the lakes argument is bollocks anyway - you can call it a tarn or a mere or water or whatever but it is still a lake by definition;

A large inland body of fresh water or salt water

Its known as "The Lakes" because the district came to be known as the Lake District because there is a large number of bodies of water there, and also because the locals say "Lakes".

As far as I'm aware the peak district is known as "The Peak" because the name came from the anglosaxon occupants of said area in days gone by who had names which sound like "peak" (Pecsaetans), etymologically having the same root as the modern day word peak but refering to high or hilly ground, rather than todays usage of "peak" refering specifically to a pointed summit. Since the peak is predominantly rolling dales and high moorland the peak name if using just todays meaning would make no sense because the area is notable for its almost complete lack of conventional peaks (with the odd exception like win hill etc) compared to other mountainous areas in the UK.

So as they say, when in the Peak, do as the Pecsaetans do.

[GCW]

Cheers Fiend, I was expecting that 
You are right with that Dave.  The Lake District comes from the National Park, as opposed to the old names of the Shires.  So really it's not traditionsal, but based on the name of a body of water.  So I'm told.

Does it really matter?  Probably not.

It's The Peak.
It'll be wet.

[Houdini]

Don't tell him peaks