[SamT]

just seen this clip (was just the next link on youtube after watching that 'The art of not climbing thing' in another thread).



Does this mean if there are some 18" icicles hanging off the top of raven tor this winter, I can launch off up any old route the wielding my axes 

[GCW]

just seen this clip (was just the next link on youtube after watching that 'The art of not climbing thing' in another thread).



Does this mean if there are some 18" icicles hanging off the top of raven tor this winter, I can launch off up any old route the wielding my axes 

You don't use the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= part Sam.

Heel spurs are cheating though  ???  Tsunami M12, I believe.

[SamT]

  cheers - was just modifying my post 

[dave]

drytooling really is nonce-sense. its just direct aid. like drummond on linden etc.

[SamT]

Where to the boundaries lie, at what point are you justified in using axes, As far as I can tell - he didnt actually touch any ice.

[GCW]

He did to get over the ice curtain, therefore it's justified to use tools.  Quid pro crap.

[Jaspersharpe]

DryTOOLing for sure. That's just fucking stupid.

If you're going to turn everything into glorified pullups then just aid the fucking thing as you'll cause less damage.

And they can't even spell Chouca properly.

[whispering nic]

I'd like 2 c that done without helspurs ???

[GCW]

It has been done without spurs.
I'd like to see it too though.

[SA Chris]

Does this mean if there are some 18" icicles hanging off the top of raven tor this winter, I can launch off up any old route the wielding my axes 

Yes, if you are a dick? As farcical as this subsport is, I would like to think they respect existing sport routes.