BUT climbing up, clipping, climbing back down, then falling off onto the pre-clipped bolt but leaving it preclipped for the next attempt? No. To me that's cheating. As usual it's what matters to you, but if one of my mates was doing that i'd try to give them enough abuse about it to make it worth their while not to cheat again! If you blow the onsight do you just lower off and leave the rope in yo-yo style? Hell no
ksjs - bleedin hell, people will be criticising the use of recreational drugs on high end sport routes next.
Finally something important. Yeah man, am dead keen for either/both days. could turn into a Brean trip, but nowt wrong with that. ksjs - bleedin hell, people will be criticising the use of recreational drugs on high end sport routes next.
may vary with local ethics
Ru, you should be ashamed of yourslef! If you are going to preclip a bolt then you should be well aware that it's best to use a screw gate.
you shouldnt be able to derive the advantage of having the rope pre-clipped but dont also have the disadvantage of a potentially strength sapping downclimb prior to an attempt.
what do you think about it then mr popp?
top rope it naked with a strap on attached to your forehead whilst reciting the sonnets of shakespeare for all i care
Jaspersharpe: are you for real?
What's to stop you doing the downclimb, untying, going to the pub, going for a kip, coming back the next day, warming up and then redpointing the route - would this still be legitiamte in your eyes?
pretty dodgy but i'd let you have that, as you've still had to do the 2 things in a row without falling off each one..
Quotewhat do you think about it then mr popp?I know that perssonally I couldnt give a tiny rat babys ass what you get up to on a sport climb, top rope it naked with a strap on attached to your forehead whilst reciting the sonnets of shakespeare for all i care
This is fuckin unbelievable, did you guys take a wrong turn form Cocktalk?
I know that perssonally I couldnt give a tiny rat babys ass what you get up to on a sport climb, top rope it naked with a strap on attached to your forehead whilst reciting the sonnets of shakespeare francis bacon for all i care
I started writing a sonnet about redpointing about half an hour ago... I have now stopped. I'm not sure if I will start again.
Quote from: Yossarian on December 10, 2007, 11:10:45 amI started writing a sonnet about redpointing about half an hour ago... I have now stopped. I'm not sure if I will start again.Did you down-climb it? If so you can go back and flash it later.
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Quote from: lagerstarfish on December 10, 2007, 12:34:18 pmhttp://cocktalkforclimbers.googlepages.com/home Is it really too much to ask for people to indicate NSFW material?
Jaspersharpe: are you for real? you'd leave it clipped and claim the ascent? P.S. In the same style, yes i do think Robin Barker cheated doing this with the cams on Marbellous.