[Tris]

HTC's first android phone supporting flash

[Tris]

We had our Lenovo account manager in this morning. He showed us this baby, looked pretty cool.

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

We had our Lenovo account manager in this morning. He showed us this baby, looked pretty cool.

Now that's clever. Google one looks good too, bet it doesn't cost $99 though, or whatever they said it will cost.

[Jim]

this is in Aldi next thursday, looks like good value
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2827_13240.htm
although as the owner of a 10" netbook, I wish I had bought a 12" netbook

[GCW]

How come, Jim?  I use the 10" whilst sat in front of the TV*, just for general surfing.  The desktop is there for anything needing a bigger screen.  What do you rue about your lack of 2"?*





*fnaaar fnaaar

[Jim]

I've got the 10" asus 1000he and my mum has got the 12" version (1008ha or something), having used both, its just a much better screen size and makes it so much more usable. The perfect size for a laptop IMHO

[tomtom]

  I also have an NC10 for sale if anyones interested...

[GCW]

I suppose it depends what you're doing.  Sitting looking at UKB (as I am now, and do most of my life) is fine on a 10" screen.  I suppose if you have fat fingers the keyboard may a be a little on the small side. 
I think if it was my only computer I'd go for a bigger screen, but as a 3rd computer/ boy's toy I find the 10" pretty good.

[Jim]

i agree with what your saying but if you have used a 12" netbook you would wish you had bought one instead

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

Seems like the Microsoft Courier was another piece of vapour-hardware.
http://www.businessweek.com/idg/2010-04-29/microsoft-kills-courier-tablet-project.html

[Tris]

New Iphone demo goes well 

[cofe]

that did sound funny on the gaydian blog...

[Tris]

Cisco joins the Android tablet scene with a unit aimed at teleconferences

[Tris]

Yet another manufacturer joining the Android tablet scene

[Jim]

Chris Anderson and Michael Wolff are idiots.
What a load of shit

[slackline]

I wrote this in a thread yesterday, but the majority of these "apps" are simply taking the HTML (i.e. Web) data and reformatting it for display within the application.  If you remove the Web on which they are based the apps won't work.

Obviously email (IMAP/POP3 protocols) and Instant Messaging are outside this remit, but Twitter, Farcebook, BBC News, RSS Feeds, New York Times are simply doing this.

[Jaspersharpe]

Even I understand that.

[slackline]

I agree with that, as there are two components that always need distinguishing style and content.  All these apps are doing is change the style in which the content is presented, and as you highlight controlling what is/isn't presented.

But for the article to call this the decline of the web and say its dead is nonsense, you'd still need a method of marking up content so that it can be presented correctly and I don't see HTML being replaced anytime soon (although perhaps XML will increase).

[Jim]

 
shock news, Jim & Slackline agree on something relating to computers 

[slackline]

I knew there had to be a small patch of common ground somewhere 

[Jaspersharpe]

[slackline]

The internet and its various protocols, be it POP3/IMAP/HTTP/FTP/RSYNC/GIT/etc. are continually evolving!

The web is indeed a layered system of hypertext markup language transferred from a server for display in a web-browser via its own hypertext transfer protcol with style/formatting often separated and specified by cascading style sheets (all CSS does is make it easier to control the formatting used in various html elements so that say <h1> is always a given font/size so css is really just html).  Javascript is a clever way of changing html on the fly.  PHP/Perl/Python/Ruby/etc. and other such scripting languages are all on the server side of things and are a smart way of getting data from databases/organised files and getting it formatted into html/xml, blah blah blah, I should get on with some work really 

[slackline]

You have quite the bludgeoning argument style, Slackers ...

Fish are still evolving but they have got a bit left behind since vertebrates decided to leave the water and have a go on land <or insert better Richard Dawkins type anecdote here>.

Ahh, evolution, another of my passions.  I doubt you'd ever hear Dawkins saying something like that because whilst fish are indeed still evolving, they've not been 'left behind' as it implies that there is a  goal/direction to evolution but there isn't, evolution is adaptation to changes in local environmental conditions.  Fish haven't been 'left behind' because they are quite well adapted to the environment that they live in.  Small changes are still accruing within a given population in response to changes in local environmental conditions (including other flora and fauna), but there is no goal other than to leave more off-spring (/copies of your genes) in the next generation.

Anyway, I'm not really trying to argue with you, its just that I thought the article was sensationalising nothing , but then thats always the case with journalism.  All its really saying is that more people are using smartphones with their specialised apps for formatting viewing html instead of a traditional browser which is no surprise as ten years ago there were no such phones, and more recently there has been a big increase in the proportion of people who own and use smartphones, and in no way signals the death of the "web", just another facet to it.

[Drew]

It would be interesting to see the same graph, but overall usage, rather than percentage.

[slackline]

Some of the linked articles are worth reading too...

How the Web wins

Native v's web apps