[SA Chris]

I did Edge Lane and carried on up Great Arete.

Aren't I great.

Grimer, to me you are just a regular or garden superhero.

[andy popp]

I did Edge Lane and carried on up Great Arete.

Aren't I great.

I'm not. I had to get rescued from GA.

[Johnny Brown]

I did Edge Lane and carried on up Great Arete.

I bet your second was moaning about the potential swing as he followed Edge lane

[grimer]

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I'm not. I had to get rescued from GA.
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Yes, but I wasn't soloing it, Andy.


As as regards to Masters, surely what Caff did was a real breakthrough. I think what he did was way more amazing than a straightforwards on-flash.

[Pantontino]

I love the last minute randomness of it all. Caff rang me the night before and asked if I had any tricams/aliens he could borrow. (I didn't, but I told him to call you - for some reason I imagined that you'd got a stash of crucial, but obscure gear for grit test pieces). Most people contemplating this sort of thing would have it all pre-planned months in advance.

[grimer]

Exactly. points for randomness.

[AndiT]

Most people contemplating this sort of thing would have it all pre-planned months in advance.

  it is true! I can remember buying a nail for Braille Trail when I was climbing about E1 and I've had an un-used Tri-Cam 2 1/2 hanging on my spare rack for about seven years! They should have called me and used that, I doubt I'll be using it anytime soon. I'm stil waiting for that morning when I wake up and think "right, time to put this nail and this tri-cam to use"....

[Fiend]

Don't those boys know about the folded over hex trick??

Actually, I imagine people who onsight E7 aren't that likely to have many cowbells dangling around...

[cowboyhat]

I was handed some tri-cams of JB's as part of a rack recently. Determined to use them I put them in, upside down, (with the spike sticking into the tape). I'd get some practice before setting off up Masters Edge.

[Paz]

Aye, Caff's got to get something for doing it first with no falls and no ropes from the top. 

I'd say that's onsight, as otherwise you're eliminating the ground, which surely the route is graded taking into account, but that's also just me legitimising going up and down a lot on everything I do.  But I thought most other people thought if you use the ground then strictly it is not?  Ages ago someone eventually convinced me I wasn't allowed to deck on an onsight, but I think once I started down climbing in control they said I wasn't allowed to do that either.


Woe is me.

Unfortunately for caff, you have to solo it onsight for `Only the True Master' status, and the open top bus tour around sheffield courtesy of Mr Moffatt. 

Sorry I'm turning this into the forbidden ethics debate, when really I just wanted to big up tri cam 2.5s.  I have had some success with them recently so am still a fan. 

[clm]

Just to be a nit picking bastard, how did the rope get back to the ground?  Surely it was the force of weight which dragged it back through the karabiner?  A small fraction of his weight must therefore have been applied to the rope.

[Pantontino]

 

[a dense loner]

clms on the money there, but not the money i owe him. caffs now gone down in my estimation, the cheating bastard

[Jim]

plus he must of watched pete do it so it wasn't without beta 
I'll give him the flash

[webbo]

how good was petes beta as he fell off.

[Houdini]

As he fell off?  Petes' beta was useless to him.  No good at all.  We must start a Famous but not Great thread. 

[Jaspersharpe]

We must start a Famous but not Great thread. 

That would make for interesting reading.

[Jim]

it sounds like pete tried it, fell off, then did it 2nd go and then caff did it after him to me, therefore caff must have watched pete do it before he tried it.
I could be wrong and it doesn't really matter anyway. Sterling effort by both