[BenF]

i am both hurt and offended by those pics.

I'm sorry but I just nearly pissed myself at that torrent of puffed cheeks.  Not at you really, more at the way that your mates just threw those photos at the forum.  Quality.

[Percy B]

3rd one down - Pogles Wood at Gardoms?

[Bonjoy]

Is this Monomantel at Cocking Tor? You manage it/do owt else in the vicinity?

[Jim]

3rd one down - Pogles Wood at Gardoms?

was about to say the same.

Damn!!! you lot are well good at photoshopping all those trumpets out

[cofe]

Is this Monomantel at Cocking Tor? You manage it/do owt else in the vicinity?

seem to remember i was almost getting top. hard to get a foot up to pop again, and not much top to hang. don't think anyone else did it.

[Bonjoy]

Here's another fellow not quite reaching the top.

Can't remember now if I lanked it or got a foot up

[cofe]

i was getting right foot up there and trying to go again, with varying degrees of staticism and dynamism. can't see fuckholds which doesn't help. there's also a false top and then a real top too. some good probs around there i reckon.

[Bonjoy]

Have another one

[a dense loner]

sorry, just to get back on track, everybody i've spoke to said the new guide is shit

[Stubbs]

Amazing - have you actually managed to see a copy to form your own opinion?  I think I already know the answer.....

[andy_e]

Stoppit with the photos of Peak stuff! Jeez,  or what?

I had a quick perusal of the guide, I don't think it can be called shit in any way, shape or form (unless you're a peakophile)...

I am disappointed by the ru-guide style landscapeness. It's just not that good, I don't think, what's wrong with portrait? Too oldskool?

[andy_e]

Interested to know what?

It's to do with warm canines and cheese...

I thought it did look a bit fishy. I know the other method to mine is harder but not that hard. Oh well, that's my first 7c+ out of the window 

[cofe]

Stoppit with the photos of Peak stuff! Jeez,  or what?

we did veer somewhat. here's a pic of yorks to help realign the thread:

[uptown]

we did veer somewhat. here's a pic of yorks to help realign the thread:

Quality snap Cofe -  and even more quality in your new avatar.

[andy_e]

That's a brilliant photo of a brilliant problem- The second set of beta I've seen though, is the undercut that Rachel Whatsername uses in the Quest any good? Need to get on this, almost worth the walk-in alone.

[Greg C]

Stoppit with the photos of Peak stuff! Jeez,  or what?

we did veer somewhat. here's a pic of yorks to help realign the thread:

This is a great photo but the sky looks photoshopped, is it?

Also, the guide is not shit, it just looks like it would have benefited from another few weeks on the proofreading circuit.

[dave]

that high hold in the groove (undercut?) has apparently got subtley worse recently so when we were there no-one used it with the RH to static it. youths with a cavalier attitude to limb-preservation may want to do it like avid in that photo and fully dyno, but everyone else was getting feet higher (i used a high outside edge of LF) to kind of pull-lurch for the top.

[cofe]

This is a great photo but the sky looks photoshopped, is it?

get a grip man. 

[uptown]

Also, the guide is not shit, it just looks like it would have benefited from another few weeks on the proofreading circuit.

I counted 12 typos on page 245, and two missing problems. Fat punters roof is most certainly not a problem of outstanding quality and I'd like to have seen an action photo of Whitehouses too - I've got some good ones in my collection as has YG. On the previous page the typos continue, the grid reference is wrong and the road marked on the map as The Raikes is actually for local access only - Let's not annoy the locals.
Having said all this, Yorkshire grit did need a new bouldering book - I'm just not sure that this photo-topo format reveals its true quality.

[Three Nine]

ok i havent had time to read this thread, but looking at a review on cocktalk it appears that neither volume covers bridestones?! is this correct? this would seem reason enough not to buy it imho.

[dave]

bridestones was left out for erosion issues.

i'm actually surprised bank's problem start to the left arete at whitehouses was left out, looked pretty good to me.

[nathan wind]

yep, bridestones wasn't included because the rock is suffering from too much traffic.. fair enough I guess.. though to then stick a photo of someone doing horror arete within the first few pages seems a bit contradictory..

on the whole and having had more time to check the guide out I really do think its crap...

so many problems missing, not convinced by the layout, no index, no graded list.. could go on....

yorkshire really needed a new guide.. but not this one..

[Greg C]

bridestones was left out for erosion issues.

i'm actually surprised bank's problem start to the left arete at whitehouses was left out, looked pretty good to me.

Yeah I noticed that one. Cone Head Bobstar is not in either, looks like they missed some of the "problems without images" on Yorkshirgrit.com.

[Greg C]

yep, bridestones wasn't included because the rock is suffering from too much traffic.. fair enough I guess.. though to then stick a photo of someone doing horror arete within the first few pages seems a bit contradictory..

on the whole and having had more time to check the guide out I really do think its crap...

so many problems missing, not convinced by the layout, no index, no graded list.. could go on....

yorkshire really needed a new guide.. but not this one..

Whilst I agree regarding the index and graded list, the layout is pretty much the same as Ru's guide which most people on here seem to like.

[Houdini]

Graded lists are for train spotters and people who largely care for the difficuly aspect of bouldering; they're something I can give or take.

An Index of problems ordered alphabetically giving a page ref for it's place in the book is perhaps the most useful part of any guide.

The NWB guide was ruined by the lack of this very useful feature.  I'd rather lose photo's/disclaimer/helicopter notes than an index.

How do you plead?  By that I mean why-oh-why was it ommitted?