[a dense loner]

completely agree with you there ru, about footless probs and eliminates you used to do for a laugh. i look on 8a.amusement and piss myself half the time. people claiming stuff at the tor etc as FA's, that were done years ago, strangely you can find stuff out quite easily by asking people who used to frequent these places. then missing one hold out on a traverse and giving it a different name and grade. wtf?

as an aside on my hatred of all stuff like this, neils wall probs, fucking spare me.
 
the arete prob at burbage is a quality addition, i think 7c and a laugh, uncle would prob think 4c and downgrade it on 8a.stillamusing

[Eddies]

I want to hear more about the 'easier' 7b's!!

So there is 'fingers' any other suggestions for my first 7b? 

[Andy B]

I'm sure some people will disagree but here are some that I think are easy 7b's:

Lust Left Hand, Ramshaw
72 Direct, Cratcliffe
Pooh, Higgar
Hats For Percys, eatswood
Hats For Clowns, eatswood
Direct Start to Perfect Day, Gardoms
The Nostril, Burbage West
Krush Regime, Higgar (this has been down graded in the routes guide but you need a few mats to make it safe)
Ben's Reverse, Stanage
Fin Sitter, Gib Tor

[dave]

I'm sure some people will disagree but here are some that I think are easy 7b's:

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Pooh, Higgar
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I'm pretty sure this is one of the hardest 7bs going, for me anyway. I'll confirm this when I get it dont, so don't hold your breath.

Is perfect day direct 7b? i thought it was 7a/+ (is not then it aught to be).

[Andy B]

Are you not getting pooh confused with piss dave?

[Greg C]

Dense wrote: people claiming stuff at the tor etc as FA's, that were done years ago

Are you from Keswick by any chance?

[Stubbs]

Is perfect day direct 7b? i thought it was 7a/+ (is not then it aught to be).

Funny that you find such a height dependant problem easy  when your nickname is Shaq   

[dave]

Are you not getting pooh confused with piss dave?

indeed I am. scratch the above comments.

[dave]

Is perfect day direct 7b? i thought it was 7a/+ (is not then it aught to be).

Funny that you find such a height dependant problem easy  when your nickname is Shaq   

is it really that height dependant? i can imagine if you're dead short it'd be much harder but then again so are most problems.

[Andy B]

Are you not getting pooh confused with piss dave?

indeed I am. scratch the above comments.

Could be a messy mistake! When Helen mentions watersports she ain't talkin skat!

[Paul B]

I disagree with Ben's Reverse, I find it bloody desperate.. Am I missing something or is it "morpho"?

[dave]

Banks, i'm not going to dignify that post with and answer.

Paul, I'm if bens reverse ain't soft. last time i tried it i coulnd't touch it, and that was before i dicovered you've got to traverse into the bad sloper from the good holds in the middle.

[Johnny Brown]

I find Piss very easy and Perfect day direct very hard. So there.