[BenF]

Thanks for the update guys.  I may still chance Woodwell since it's been generally pretty dry for a while and the roofs can stay dry even after a bit of rain.  Plus the RHS may dry out with a breeze and no rain today.   

[GCW]

Roads wet

Funny you say that- it's one of my critetia when deciding whether or not to go out.
Rain throughout Lancashire the rest of the week, allegedly.  I wouldn't make any solid plans Ben.  But you never know.  And if it's wet, the Red Wall often has stuff to play on.

[BenF]

I wouldn't make any solid plans Ben. 

I rarely make solid plans.  In fact I'll make my decision at half three as I leave school today.  I may even put the decision off until I'm on the M6 and have the choice of grit or limestone

[andyheb]

weather update from north lancashire roads dry, strong wind blowing but clouds still grey and hanging to the hills of the trough of bowland.

[BenF]

Thanks for the recent update, much appreciated.  Don't suppose you fancy nipping out to the crag and checking the state of the buttresses do you? 

[andyheb]

affraid not mate lessons to teach this afternoon or is that children to baby sit! one or the other.
So frustrating working in the trough of bowland. so close but you can't get out till 3.45!

[Greg C]

I want to know why this thread isn't allowed Sticky status? It's just plain North Westist.  (I don't no what this icon means but I'm using it anyway)

PS: Oert is dry.

[GCW]

   It's an angry youth waving a book of quiz questions at a cyclist that nearly knocked him over and shouting "Riding Too Fast Mate!"
I've never had the need to use it.

Heaving down here for the whole day, but the forecast tomorrow looks better.
PS:  Greg- any beta on the questions in the Thorn Thread?  Cheers

[BenF]

I want to know why this thread isn't allowed Sticky status? It's just plain North Westist.  (I don't no what this icon means but I'm using it anyway)

I asked the same question several months ago (when I think I started this thread) but it was ignored, ridiculed and down right made a mockery of.  Bloody Peakcentric bias.  They're all just jealous.
(Actually I think my suggestion was just overlooked but what the hell, lets have a tantrum)

PS: Oert is dry.

Nice one, thanks Greg.

[andyheb]

at tom's last night. Some holds a little damp but could get stuff done. Although i couldn't get the bloody heel to work on cruifix kiss( not due to damp just due to general crap technique i think).
Has pissed it down for the best part of the day in Lancaster but  the sun is out and the roads are drying!

[BenF]

Although i couldn't get the bloody heel to work on cruifix kiss

I used to struggle with that heel but have recently realised that you shouldn't think too hard about placing that heel.  Just put it on that tiny black pointy bit in the break and let it hang without tryin any heel/toe or camming shenanigans.  I also put my right heel under the block by the big undercut to kind of hug which helps my feet stay put for the hard moves.  Dunno if all that helps you, but honestly since I stopped trying to concentrate on that heel I've found the move much easier.

[andyheb]

Although i couldn't get the bloody heel to work on cruifix kiss

I used to struggle with that heel but have recently realised that you shouldn't think too hard about placing that heel.  Just put it on that tiny black pointy bit in the break and let it hang without tryin any heel/toe or camming shenanigans.  I also put my right heel under the block by the big undercut to kind of hug which helps my feet stay put for the hard moves.  Dunno if all that helps you, but honestly since I stopped trying to concentrate on that heel I've found the move much easier.

cheers for that i'll try it out

[Monolith]

andy, I think that heeltoe suits a certain genetic predisposition. Never once when on that segment of rock have I managed to find it. Just vaguely lash your heel on and go.

[Paul B]

Anybody been there today? Some waddage is up for grabs in exchange for a conditions report (+ )

[Paul B]

conditions here on wednesday were pretty good, cold with almost everything dry, some starting jugs on the beauty of being... and art of... were soapy but easily dried off.

[andyheb]

At the answer area and tom's tonight. A little damp in some parts around the answer and question problems but everything was doable. All the starting hand holds on Tom's buttress were dry and just a few footholds slightly damp. Generally good conditions at the moment.

[GCW]

Is Tom's Roof likely to be OK tomorrow?

[andyheb]

it has been dry last two or three day's in lancaster but that's no guarantee. I think it takes a couple of days to dry out properly.A beautiful morning here and hopefully a bit of sun today will dry it out. I was thinking of going myself later on when school finishes and if wet trying trowbarrow.

[GCW]

10am- Woodwell:  a few damp patches, most stuff OK but pretty slimy/soapy feeling.  May be better now the sun has been out.
Red Wall- Generally OK, but some greasiness.

[andyheb]

cheers for the update. Did you try any of the problems around sanctified/ cruifix kiss? what were the holds at the back like?

[GCW]

Sanctified- OK
Crucifix Kiss- the crimps were slimy early doors.  May be OK late afternoon.
I didn't do much as it was cold an a tad slimy, so I bailed to the Red Wall and ended up sweating cobs there 'cos it was warm! 

[meatball]

any locals been and checked it out recently? realise it may be a stupid question...

[MB]

I popped in last Friday. Only went to look at Toms area, and it was still wet.  You could of got on the Slaves and thats about it.

[meatball]

cheers pal!. was it really in shit state?

[MB]

Its the starting holds that are still wet. It is showing signs of drying though, but with the rain thats been put down recently i wouldnt hope for too much.