[Adam Lincoln]

Time has come for new pad.

So,

Black Diamond - Drop Zone Crash Pad Or  Moon - Deluxe Large Pad

(Its going to be used mainly in the states)

[Dr T]

I've always liked my moon pads
if it's going to the states have you thought about how you're getting it out there cause it can be an arse taking pads on planes, maybe best to buy it out there

[Toad]

Get a POD

   

[John Cooke]

Snap pad or a Franklin/BD.

If you're heading out to the states Revolution pads are pretty cool and you can't get them in the uk, which makes them even cooler

[Adam Lincoln]

Snap pad or a Franklin/BD.

If you're heading out to the states Revolution pads are pretty cool and you can't get them in the uk, which makes them even cooler

Going straight to Hueco though, so not stopping anywhere to pick one up before hand.....

Off topic, i am nipping into manchester tomorrow, dont suppose you know if Cotswolds still have Dragons in? Ill call them later if not......

[Nibile]

never tested the moonies, but ive fallen alot on dropzones, very happily. bomber.
otherwise i have a big alpkit, and its excellent. same foam of the dropzone, the shell is softer its not cordura. but its 70£ and free delivery next day in uk.

[Stubbs]

The BD dropzone is so shoddy compared to the old franklin one - i got mine just before going to the states for a month and the foam has softened considerably just from that use. The little corner webbing has already broken and one of the straps is on the way out.  I'm gutted as my franklin dropzone is still alright after two years of climbing at least twice a week.

[monkey boy]

I have heard bad things about the moon pads and the BD dropzone definately isnt what it used to be, apparently anyway! I have got one of the new chili ones and its really good,thicker than average foam and good quality too. Chili mats used to be shit but looks like they have really turned them around with these ones.
Snap pads also tend to have really good foam in them!

[Sam]

I was almost set on a BD Dropzone as the Franklin seems good but above comments are making me re-think. Anyone have any experience of the new DMM ones? 

[John Cooke]

Off topic, i am nipping into manchester tomorrow, dont suppose you know if Cotswolds still have Dragons in? Ill call them later if not......

Heading the wall later so can check for you if you want. What size you after? Drop me a pm with your mobi number and i'll drop you a text.

What you in mancland for? Climbing?

[Rice Boy]

Sam:

In exactly the same situation. I figured given the bad press the BD's getting and the fact the two pads are much the same design (apart from the fact the DDM has three layers, pocket and different carry system  ???) and to jump on (British Standard Test off a chair) that I'd invest in Welsh technology.

[Bonjoy]

Get yourself one of the new taco style POD mats. Why?
  They are fantatic pads
  Support a small UK business rather than big US companies
  The craftsmanship is super solid, they are bombproof
  Lower carbon footprint as they are made in UK rather than shipped in
  They fit perfectly in the boot of  car

[John Cooke]

Good reasons there JonBoy, the only gripe i had with the pod mats were that they didn't do a taco version... and now they do! Sounds like they'd definately be worth checking out.

[fatdoc]

I've been looking into this  - whilst waiting to check out the pads the climbingworks lads are going to bring in:
Does anyone know of a pad that fulfils the paramaters below

- taco
- Deep  / good for big drops (3 inch soft & 1 inch hard foam)
- metal clasps for closure, incl a bottom one to stop all my shit falling out
- soft / carpet suface of your feet

many have 2 of the 4, some 3.... but none as yet all 4........... except the old cordless that is now my ageing pride and joy........

advice anyone please?? i suppose the metal clasps vs. velcro would be the one to go first - i'm really concerned about velcro longevity though, and getting it sinched together with all my stuff inside though.

[Sam]

Does anyone have a contact telephone or emailer for POD  Can't find anything on google. If you could PM me, that would be ace. Ta

[account_inactive]

Support a small UK business

That being said my Flashed pad covers all the bases

No sure if they are still imported though..................

[soapy]

well doc,

the behemoth fulfils your stated criteria

[Nibile]

soapy i have to disagree.
all those pads ive seen/fallen onto were flat, soft and spoilt by the three way folding.
id go with the metolius cheap bastard.

[Bonjoy]

Tried to PM you Sam with numbers for POD but your PM doesn't work. If you PM me I you e-mail address I will send you them. I have two numbers and don't know which is the commercial number so don't want to post on the thread.

[Greg C]

Does anyone have a contact telephone or emailer for POD  Can't find anything on google. If you could PM me, that would be ace. Ta

What do you want it for?

I like the POD ones but I’m not that keen on this new reverse strapping idea (which indecently Mooney is using on his new pads), I'd rather get me coat mucky than all the stuff I generally stuff in my pad, plus you’ve got to faff about with the straps.

The new DMM ones are pretty decent for the cash especially the Highball, plus they all have three layers of good quality foam - two hard cell sheets sandwiching the soft cell sheet.

[Nibile]

ive never had anything from dmm, but i really like the stuff, especially cos it reminds me about earlier days in climbing, like the pics of moon on dominator with the dmm pants.

[Nibile]

ps at alpkit.com they also sell replacing foam for dropzone, normal and hard.
im having the normal one to put it in my old cassin, that has the same measures af a dropzone: new pad for cheap!!!!!

[Nibile]

sorry double post edit.

[fatdoc]

I've gone for alpkit foam to reinvigorate my cordless... £35 cannt go wrong - mix and match what i've got already and i'll be sorted... 

[dobbin]

Dont know if they are in production yet, but the new moon design is good. He has changed the carrying straps so that they will be on the landing surface, which means that you dont carry the pad with the side that has just been in the mud against your body. It sounds dangerous as anything on the landing surface could cause you to get caught up in it - but no! Moony has designed a neat strap pack section thing that keeps the straps flush to the pad. Tres cool. And, like something from Maharishi, when you have the flap unflapped, it wraps around the bottom of the pad to keep your stuff that you wedged inside inside.

Foam seems good and dense. Dunno what prices will be or whether these are the ones you get if you buy now, but they look good.

[Dude]

I have to echo some of the comments about the new Dropzone pads since BD took over. Franklin mats were always bomber, but my mate has had two since BD took over, the first one the webbing went in ten days, and the rubber corner thing ripped off the second one in two weeks, there must be some quality issue since BD got involved.

[Blunk]

I've been looking into this  - whilst waiting to check out the pads the climbingworks lads are going to bring in:
Does anyone know of a pad that fulfils the paramaters below

- taco
- Deep  / good for big drops (3 inch soft & 1 inch hard foam)
- metal clasps for closure, incl a bottom one to stop all my shit falling out
- soft / carpet suface of your feet

many have 2 of the 4, some 3.... but none as yet all 4........... except the old cordless that is now my ageing pride and joy........

advice anyone please?? i suppose the metal clasps vs. velcro would be the one to go first - i'm really concerned about velcro longevity though, and getting it sinched together with all my stuff inside though.

Can you get Misty Mountain pads in England? Their large pad (can't remember the name) amply fulfills all the above criteria and is bomber. I've had mine for 3 years now, and no one impacts a pad harder than me! The only problem I could foresee is getting it in the boot of a smaller car.

[fatdoc]

Thanks Blunk

i've seen those misty mountain pads on the interweb... look like they get close to fulfilling my every need, is there carpet on the landing surface??

have yet to find any misty mountain stuff in the UK though

[Blunk]

Yes, they are well carpeted. A shame you can't get them over there.

[fatdoc]

arse. 

[Percy B]

Sounds like what you need is a Revolution pad. (The artists formerly know as Pusher.) We will have a load of these bad boys for sale at The Climbing Works by mid November, and they'll be cheap. The original and best now the foams better!

[fatdoc]

apart from concerns about velcro longevity i reckon this is the pad to have..... graemeA has mentioned it to me on here before - i'll check em put as soon as...

[unclesomebody]

aren't Pod pads the best? I think so.

[Monolith]

Word. Had ours since their inauguration and a fine pad it has been too. Shame the rucksack straps idea didn't catch on from the start though, instead of silly over the shoulder affair.

[Nibile]

ordered new foam from alpkit, cant wait to have it, also cos the old foam will go into the van as a permanent bed!!!!
hell yes!!!!

[Paul B]

but no! Moony has designed a neat strap pack section thing that keeps the straps flush to the pad. Tres cool. And, like something from Maharishi, when you have the flap unflapped, it wraps around the bottom of the pad to keep your stuff that you wedged inside inside.

Was pretty impressed by this system too 'tres' smart, and the foam seems like good stuff too.
Revolution formerly known as pusher and cordless but no bruce lee t-shirts?  what has the world come to.

[fatboySlimfast]

but no bruce lee t-shirts?

ive got one of the originals and dont think it actually is Bruce lee, pusher came very close to copyright/intellectual copright/image protection problems in the states. didnt they do a absolut vodka advert pisstake and were lucky not to be sued for mills. Had to do a public apology etc. Think they were lucky with the bruce lee thing as well, think they were warned off!

[james]

There is only one pad that I would spend my money on, and that is a POD,  They are without a doubt, far superior to ANY other.

If you want an over priced, piece of shit made in the far east, that will go fall apart and be as saggy as http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:nfQAVcUvOs1hQM:http://members.cox.net/jenniewoolf/uploaded_images/saggy.jpg, then get one of the many other pads that all claim to be the best.  They are not, and I feel for anyone taken in by their bullshit claims.

Get a POD

[Aussiegav]

I have heard bad things about the moon pads

what are the bad things you've heard.
if you going to say something like that, it'd help to say what these bad things were...

having seen him fall onto the them off the arete he did at caley from WAY up high. i have no doubt that that are good pads.


i really rate them and these new ones are very good. especially the giant. which i reccommend you take to hueco.....

[Moo]

I have a pod and they are the bollocks.

[GraemeA]

I keep my bollocks in a pod 

[r-man]

I keep my bollocks in a pod 

But you probably wouldn't want people to jump on it.

[monkey boy]

I have heard bad things about the moon pads

what are the bad things you've heard.
if you going to say something like that, it'd help to say what these bad things were...

having seen him fall onto the them off the arete he did at caley from WAY up high. i have no doubt that that are good pads.

Yeh sorry, just heard that foam doesnt last ages and the build quality isnt great. To be fair actually only heard that from 2 or 3 people so could be they just had a bad few. If they were good when falling off high fidelity thats gotta show they are pretty good!

[Houdini]

I keep my bollocks in a pod 

Ooooh!  He's fibbing!  I saw them in the Dinosaur room of the British Museum last week.    

[fatdoc]

after much deliberation..........

my trusty old cordless taco has alpkit foam installed, at the princely sum of £35.

It's bloody lurvvvvley.....
just need to get some skin back after a week of totally ace conditions and very little work...

[Duma]

on the strength of this thread invested in a new pod yesterday - well pleased so far, esp. the inside out idea. Quite like the new moon offerings as well, but since my last pad was one of his (S7 - I've had it a while...) thought I'd spread the cash around.

[Nibile]

i also got the new foam from alpkit in my old cassin and im very very happy.
and my friend got a phud, also from alpkit, and it looks great.
time to put them to test, i reckon.

[Dr T]

Don't know if Adam's left for the states yet, this might be worth a look when you're out there
I think it's been released stateside (Blunk?????)

http://www.flashed.com/Ronin_2007.pdf

anyone bounced on one yet???????

[Blunk]

Don't know if Adam's left for the states yet, this might be worth a look when you're out there
I think it's been released stateside (Blunk?????)

http://www.flashed.com/Ronin_2007.pdf

anyone bounced on one yet???????

Haven't seen one yet, gawd does it look hi-tech!  Not sure my sub V-8 performance level is worthy of such gadgetry.

[Nibile]

that pad is going to be seen in many hi-society punters' cars at crags, after hopping into a shop and asking for the newest, most expensive pad on the market.
i dont like it. the more complicated they get, the more they can break.

otherwise, it could be cheap or very good, and soon to be seen under big guns asses on careless torque et similia.

who knows.
who cares?

strange morning, this is.

[fatdoc]

 I want one




a lot




dont care if its only underneath a measly 7a




want one!!!!


also, i've heard rumours of some airbag pad, like a stuntman thingie....... now that does seem a little over the top - sounds of portable generators radiating over the grit edges in the early winter morning is perhaps just that little bit too much

[slackline]

Don't know if Adam's left for the states yet, this might be worth a look when you're out there
I think it's been released stateside (Blunk?????)

http://www.flashed.com/Ronin_2007.pdf

Hahaha, I've got my own FAT cells to cushion my falls!!!