[Bubba]

Like the time-frame idea a lot.

I never envisaged it being done purely on the basis of -ve karma, rather the balance between +ve and -ve.

Like you say, the ukb wilderbeast usually trample the bad out of existence. I've actually  had to ban < 10 people over the 5 years (ish) that this place has existed, which is quite cool really.

[squeek]

Hands up who hasn't yet heard the story of Buoux being ordered to stop 'starting' on Dense by Moon?

Another hands up.  There are 922 members of this forum (from the front page), I realise that most of the longest and most vocal members are from sheffield area/scene and know each other, so it might seem to people in the group that 'everyone' knows a certain story, but most people on this forum won't, even if most posts are by people who do.   

I think karma is a good thing   , and at worst isn't a bad thing.  When it was new it was overused a bit, but now it's settled, and it also, overtime will come to represent who contributes a lot to the site, ie if Bonjoy gets a Wadpoint or two everytime he gives a useful bit of info out he ends up with a big plus figure, even if he gets a few minuses for dragging topics off on an unrelated fruit tangent.  Other forums I frequent use karma in a different way, to basically let people who contribute a lot know that their efforts are appreciated.  Ie someone PMs someone a topo for some problems, or gives you some good info on a place to go, or is putting time and effort into rebolting, give them some karma.

So some people are going to misinterpret what people type, sarcasm or dig, irony is lost, etc.  This happens in conversations, people say things that sound different to what they meant, people mishear things, etc.  At least when you're posting something because it takes longer you can actually think more about what you're saying, and before you hit that post button, you can review it.

[Dude]

Hands up who hasn't yet heard the story of Buoux being ordered to stop 'starting' on Dense by Moon?

[SA Chris]

I think that when times are good and the food supply is plentiful that karma should just be left to run and it shouldn't be policed in any way. If people want to give negative karma for a daft reason then let them. However, when winter settles in and the days draw short, when food becomes scarce and the tundra is frozen several inches deep it becomes a different matter. ........ rise like a pack of wilderbeast

Wildebeest? On a frozen Tundra? Interesting extended analogy, but Caribou would probably be more capable of rising, whereas a wildebeest would probably spend more time wondering what all this white stuff is.

Bit like hunting tigers in Africa.

Which is where I will be next week.

As I'm sure I've mentioned.

Several times.

[Bubba]

Bit like hunting tigers in Africa.

Which is where I will be next week.

Chris, did you get my PM?

[SA Chris]

yes, just emailed you direct @ukbouldering?

Easier to do in the office, as I dont need to be online.

[Bubba]

Cheers Chris. Not got it yet mind - hopefully my rather over-zealous spam catchers haven't busted it...

[unclesomebody]

Eek. Clearly my attempt to imitate Mr. Bellamy has been exposed as very weak! Anyhow.

The reason you can't set a solid number of negative karmas to equal a ban is that when you look at what happens as time tends to infinity, everyone will get banned. For example, I have 1 negative karma, and I easily see myself getting more. However, in 18 months I may have 25 which means a ban. That is clearly stupid. Everyone will get negative karma at some point or another (except maybe you bubba) and so over a long time span everyone will get banned. I think that karma should be a rolling 12 month tally or that a huge influx of negative karma over a short time span should lead to a ban.

[Bubba]

I never said that, I said your karma *balance*, ie +ve karma total - -ve karma total.

[unclesomebody]

Forgive me if I'm totally wrong here, but the balance thing is an even worse idea! Say I currently have +4/-1 which I do. If I then got another +40 I would have a big imbalance. Would I get banned? 

[Johnny Brown]

Hows about we ban pedantic mullets with poor natural history knowledge?

[Bubba]

Forgive me if I'm totally wrong here, but the balance thing is an even worse idea! Say I currently have +4/-1 which I do. If I then got another +40 I would have a big imbalance. Would I get banned? 

No you buffoon

I mean if you had +1 and -40 then that's a problem balance - neg balance, not pos!

[squeek]

and for anyone who's still very confused here's bubba's first post on the subject which still explains exactly what it means.

which will be something along the lines of:

If your karma balance hits -25 then you'll get banned from the community.

[Paz]

If you get bad karma then I think you should totally get the reason for it. 

Because you can then make a list of all the bad things you've done. 

And then you can just try to be a better person.

[Falling Down]

Because you can then make a list of all the bad things you've done. 

And then you can just try to be a better person.

Damn right...

[Paz]

Hey cheers bud, you've prompted me to look this up.  You know that bit at the start where you get a glimpse of the list.  My eye was always drawn to `wasted electricity' (which is a nice adage for modern living) and I could never work out what the rest of them on there were...  ...until now:

[Bonjoy]

If you have a higher than 25+ karma balance, will you get automatically sublimated to a higher realm?

[Jim]

of suspended animation perhaps?

[Houdini]

If you have a higher than 25+ karma balance, will you get automatically sublimated to a higher realm?

of suspended animation perhaps?

That depends on whether you've been a good boy...  (Taught Dawes a thing or two about crucifix moves...)

[Doylo]

If you have a higher than 25+ karma balance, will you get automatically sublimated to a higher realm?

you already are on a higher realm bonjoy.

[soapy]

let the beatification of bubba begin..

[Houdini]

And Lo!  HE was beatified!



(Oh!  My mistake!   You mean Bubba...)

[Houdini]

Removed by me...

[a dense loner]

you will have to forgive me for not replying earlier i have been away. gruff you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about me for some reason, i realise i probably come across as a tosser on the web but in real life i'm sure you'll find me much worse. i don't think anybody should be banned from this forum at all. i do think some people should be banned from crags and computers tho, not you btw gruff.
it seems a lot of furore has been caused by me giving adam lincoln -ve karma for saying "because he thinks he knows people". can i not give out bad karma? this had nothing to do with him calling ben "the bransby" in any way.
i gave it him for a variety of reasons
1)going on about him sitting next to sharma and saying chris says hi
2)his fantasy winter ticklist

[Fiend]

i realise i probably come across as a tosser on the web but in real life i'm sure you'll find me much worse. i don't think anybody should be banned from this forum at all. i do think some people should be banned from crags and computers tho,

 

Dense you do bake some of the finest rants.