[Houdini]

Metal Box isn't negelected in my gaff!


I'll see if I can pick up Winterreisse today, it does sound promising, as does the Hebridean Symphony.

[andy popp]

Class - PiL and Schubert in the same post! Let me know what you think.

[al]

alice coltrane - 'a monastic trio'
accept it might be a bit jazz-club, but if anyone likes a bit of chin-stroking check this out, think its her first main album - have always been into her old fella, but only recently heard this stuff
(also 'journey in satchidananda' is awesome although think this is the better known masterpiece?)

[Houdini]

Hmmm...  I like me some chin stroking...   The Mahavishnu Orchestra make me stroke my chin...

[andy popp]

 The Mahavishnu Orchestra make me stroke my chin...

In which case we should also mention Bitches Brew

[Houdini]

Quite.  In fact, I am currently sporting what any self respecting hornblower c.1958-69 may term 'the half goatee'. 

Designed specifically for stroking, but not pulling ot twirling, by a distant stateside relative of Jimmy Hill, but only to jazz or at a push jazzrock.

No.  There is no chance you will see it. 

[al]

In which case we should also mention Bitches Brew

yeah andy 

[andy popp]

In which case we should also mention Bitches Brew

yeah andy 

And 'On the Corner'

[al]

not heard 'on the corner' andy, sure its a masterpiece though - did he ever make anything less?
just thinking miles is a good example of not letting an artists beliefs/verbals get in the way of their art (seen some discussion of this somewhere else on here)

[Falling Down]

did he ever make anything less?

Yeah some of the stuff from the 80's was dreadful....

My favourite Electric Miles' (strokes chin...) aside from Bitches Brew are Dark Magus and Live Evil... Pete Cosey's guitar is a bit more wild and mad than Mclaughlins...

[al]

Yeah some of the stuff from the 80's was dreadful....

spoilsport

[Houdini]

'Ask the Dusk' by John Fante (first published in US 1939.  First published in UK 1989)  Perhaps the first REAL neglected masterpiece in this thread.

I can't describe how good this book is, or perhaps I can:  It's astronomically good!  Best book I've read in years, YEARS! 

Anyone who's ever written, or had pretentions of writing should read this book.  It's stunning.  You know when you are in the company of genius.

[butters]

American proto-punk power-electronics duo Suicide

This duo scare the shit out of me.  Listen to Frankie Teardrop & you'll get my drift.

The eponymous LP is brilliant.  Hugely influencial.  I hope people out there still listen to these freaks.

A mate recommended Frankie Teardrop to me - apparently they used to play it last thing at night in the bar he worked in to clear the room double quick - it has to be one of the most scarily fucked up records of all time!

bluebrad

[Falling Down]

In which case we should also mention Bitches Brew

yeah andy 

Joe Zawinul the electric pianist off Bitches Brew and In A Silent Way died yesterday... RIP

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6989301.stm

[Yossarian]

In which case we should also mention Bitches Brew

yeah andy 

Joe Zawinul the electric pianist off Bitches Brew and In A Silent Way died yesterday... RIP

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6989301.stm

In a Silent Way is my most listened to Miles album. I think it is utterly briliant, and that is very sad news.

I agree about Live Evil - it's really really good too. I think I overdosed on Bitches Brew as a teenager, which is the only reason I don't listen to it that much these days. 

Jack Johnson is often overlooked, but shouldn't be. And from much earlier, Ascenseur pour l'Échafaud is defintely worth further investigation.

My favourite Trane album is Ole Coltrane, which lots of people haven't heard but should. And John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman is a bit different as well.

[slackline]

Currently enjoying listening to various albums by Ali Farka Toure.

The album Talking Timbuktu with Ry Cooder is superb, and the Red and Green albums are beautifully simple.  Going to seek more out in the near future.

[al]

smoothing a way through this morning with this classic - remember this one andy? (reminds me of steve)

[andy popp]

smoothing a way through this morning with this classic - remember this one andy? (reminds me of steve)

That goes far beyond a good call Al! God I wish I could listen to that now. The finest, rootsiest, most righteous reggae going.

[Johnny Brown]

The finest, rootsiest, most righteous reggae going.

Enjoyed a very relaxing bath last week whilst listening to Burning Spear's Marcus Garvey. Surely another contender?

[andy popp]

Clearly my original claim was over the top, but anyone into reggae who hasn't heard this album should check it out. Not really for lovers of dance hall though. Very political, very sparse, lean sound.

[Houdini]

Death Fuge by Paul Celan

Black milk of daybreak we drink it at evening
We drink it at midday and morning we drink it at night
We drink and we drink
We shovel a grave in the air there you won't lie too cramped
A man lives in the house he plays with his vipers he writes
He writes when it grows dark to Deutschland your golden hair Margareta
He writes it and steps out of doors and the stars are all sparkling he whistles his hounds to come close
He whistles his Jews into rows has them shovel a grave in the ground
He commands us play up for the dance
Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
We drink you at morning and midday we drink you at evening
We drink and we drink
A man lives in the house he plays with his vipers he writes
He writes when it grows dark to Deutschland your golden hair Margareta
Your ashen hair Shulamith we shovel a grave in the air there you won't lie too cramped

He shouts jab this earth deeper you lot there you others sing up and play
He grabs for the rod in his belt he swings it his eyes are so blue
Jab your spades deeper you lot there you others play on for the dancing

Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
We drink you at midday and morning we drink you at evening
We drink and we drink
A man lives in the house your goldenes Haar Margareta
Your aschenes Haar Shulamith he plays with his vipers

He shouts play death more sweetly this Death is a master from Deutschland
He shouts scrape your strings darker you'll rise then as smoke to the sky
You'll have a grave then in the clouds there you won't lie too cramped

Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
We drink you at midday Death is a master aus Deutschland
We drink you at evening and morning we drink and we drink
This Death is ein Meister aus Deutschland his eye it is blue
He shoots you with shot made of lead shoots you level and true
A man lives in the house your goldenes Haar Margarete
He looses his hounds on us grants us a grave in the air
He plays with his vipers and daydreams der Tod ist ein Meister aus Deutschland



Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[andy popp]

What happened to the bon viveur of last week?

[Houdini]

He's fine.

[andy popp]

Glad to hear it. That poem nearly put me in the mood for some Strauss (Richard).

[Houdini]

Just watched Das Boot (dubbed) in it's entirety for the first time.  It could've been the film thread but many probably haven't seen this as it's German.


I'm flabbergasted.  The missus fancies Herr Kapitan.  Will test my original language skills tomorrow.  It's a massive film!