Alan, would it not be possible for you to help them with creating the ad? after all someone has to make it.
I must admit that I was a bit snooty about adverts in our guide, commercial necessity meant we needed some, but we did exactly that, creating some (not all) of the ads for the guide to try and keep some creative control.
there are plenty of people in the climbing world who simply won't come near these forums
I'm sure that's the case, but for somebody who's producing a guide to ignore active climbing websites would just be foolish, would it not?
Quote from: Bubba on June 26, 2006, 10:28:30 amI'm sure that's the case, but for somebody who's producing a guide to ignore active climbing websites would just be foolish, would it not? Which is why I posted a question on this forum request people's opinions of some bouldering routes at Birchen. Sadly, no-one seems to be forthcoming with an answer at present despite the fact that at least one person has admitted that they have an opinion on the grades.Alan
Which is why I posted a question on this forum request people's opinions of some bouldering routes at Birchen. Sadly, no-one seems to be forthcoming with an answer at present despite the fact that at least one person has admitted that they have an opinion on the grades.Alan
One possibility you may not have considered is to actually go and do the problems, like guidebook authors tend to do.
I'm not sure that anyone has ever claimed to do every route in a guide, except maybe Paul William's Snowdonia one, and if they did, why would it make the grades rubbish? Paul's certainly weren't.
However I don't understand why you think someone who has nearly done all the routes will be 'rubbish' at grading them?
Rockfax have a confrontational reputation on this forum, admittedly this is more from Mick than yourself.
Basically you ahd the situation where a bunch of E1 to E6 leaders were sat around chosing grades for VDiffs - that doesn't work and no matter how many times they go out and climb them, they still won't know any better
I think whoever writes a guidebook should be commended. I have used every guide book I have bought and found everyone really helpfull, warts and all. Bouldering is supposed to be about freedom and personal achievement. I think it is a shame that capitalism has to come into it.So well done Rockfax, well done Ru, well done the BMC and well done Jingo Wobbly you are all doing a really good job. And as for the rest of us, we should help as much as possible, because although this is commercial, it also adds to our and our fellow boulderers enjoyment.
So well done Rockfax, well done Ru, well done the BMC and well done Jingo Wobbly you are all doing a really good job. And as for the rest of us, we should help as much as possible, because although this is commercial, it also adds to our and our fellow boulderers enjoyment.Share the love people