[fatboySlimfast]

right, between pebble mill and the next buttress down the edge, cant remember what its called , the track goes up hill slightly, you pass a very small boulder on the downhill side of the track which has a small roof underneath it (more like a hollow really) crawl into this, its small so hands are on lip from sitting, and just mantle.
im not saying its brill but you wanna tick it for historical value

[dave]

I think i know what you mean - just a bit further on from that B7 "poor mans 8-ball" thing. You just like mantle a slopey lip right? im thinking of summert given B7 or 8 in the guide, and no i haven't tried it.

[fatboySlimfast]

its literally a hole under a small boulder, i went up wit wife and asked if she could see a named prob close to her and she said no even though she was stood on it......so not a obvious classic

[Scouse D]

that problem you're on about is well good-I reckon it's a classic.

[Johnny Brown]

anyone done the alliance? Best problem on the crag I reckon. Just uphill from that classic v4 above. big span between two aretes, hugging and slapping- pure grit.
Make that best problem in the valley; tho it might be a bit highball for you bumpy boys :wink:

[Omega]

had a crack at Famous Grouse on the weekend.  I seem to remember it getting 7b+ from standing and 7c+ from sitting - correct?  anyway, seems pretty generous to me cos the sit start is easy and adds nothing but a few extra moves to, it must be said, a cracking problem.  what's the rub?  perhaps the huge foot ledge is OB?

[dave]

i just assumed famous grous was 7c+ from standing, or was as far as i heard. never heard of a sitter being done, seems pretty pointless, like just for the sake of it.

[Omega]

indeed - the sit start is a bit pointless.

thought that v6 nearby was really good - the sitting start arete thingy.  looks easy but...

[dave]

yeah that one is bo. don't leave your foot behind in the jam if your hands rip, not unless you know a good aenesthetist.

[mark]

indeed - the sit start is a bit pointless.

thought that v6 nearby was really good - the sitting start arete thingy.  looks easy but...

Yes, obviously the product of someone with great vision, power and talent. Probably very handsome too. Ahem.