Oooh we were gonna go there on sat as well dave. unfortunatley we went to the tilberthwaite ladstones instead. after a fucking roasting, hellish 40 minute uphill walk-in i was expecting something pretty damn special. suffice to say i didn't find it. what i did find was a big pile of overrated greasy crap with shit landings, shit problems and shit projects. i'm sticking with the wall for good now.