[blockhead]

What with Ru's guide sorting out the grades for the rest of the peak, was wondering what the consensus grades are for the problems at cragx?  Ru's graded list he had on the ropeless.de site before he published the guide had a few on:

Cherokee lane    7b+

Seans Start        7c
The pinch           7c
Moffatrocity        7c

The hulk             7c+
The Thing           7c+

Superwoman       8a - not sure what this problem is

The Thing sitter    8a+
Superman           8a+

Superman sitter   8b

But a few of the grades on that list dropped when the guide came out. What do you reckon?

[andy bowie]

as above apart from:

cherokee always used to be 7a+ has it got harder?
moffatrocity 7b+

superwoman and above can't comment

[andy bowie]

also jericho road 7b

plus the overhanging problems on the left, various from 6c to 7b+ (footless)

[andy bowie]

its all flooding back

zippy's traverse 7a+

[dave]

would have thought jericho road 7a/+.

not done moffattrocity but came close a couple of years back. its about as hard as powerband but without a sick hard move at the end, so 7b+ish probably is fair.

[andy bowie]

you are probably right on JR - i'll give you 7a+. Sit down start is good, just down and left with good undercut move. maybe add half a grade? then again maybe not.

[Bonjoy]

I'd go for 7b+ for Moffatrocity. &a+ for Jez Road, 7b for Cherokee.
 The pinch has traditionally been considered 7c+ using the approved sequence ie not using certain holds on moves into JR, maybe it is only 7c with all holds.
 What's the problem called which starts sitting to the left of JR and goes into this eliminating the big break? Good prob (as eliminates go) 7b+/7c i'd say.

[andy bowie]

that sounds like the sit start i was talking about - i'd never thought of doing it without the HUGE break. shows how original i am! That sounds like a summer evening spent in' dale..

[blockhead]

Went for a look this week, the crag is still seeping a bit but most of the problems are dry 'cept for the pinch and cherokee. Had read on this forum about the sidepull coming off superman but hadn't seen it til now, its gonna make quite a bit of difference to the hulk. Guess it will still be 7c+ but that crimps gonna hurt - ow!! (thats one of them guesses where you don't do the move... or try the move... or put your rock shoes on)