[Duma]

so you've got on to the arete, left hand up to sidepull. now, I do a heelhook with my right foot just below my hand before slapping up the arete with my right hand to the better bit of the arete... works fine from the stand up, but from sitting fell off trying to get my heel up about 15 times over the weekend. Am I a) weak as piss b) mightily stupid to be trying this in july, or c) doing it wrong ? There is also the possibility of d) all of the above, but really I'm interested in answers in the c) area.

[Johnny Brown]

funnily enough, that's where I fell off too. I'd say you're doin it right, just wait for a colder day.


Now I'll say this quietly, and don't all rush at once, but this is perhaps the only problem (at least the only one I've found) in Ru's new guide that is wildy overgraded. Get in quick before Ru's inevitable 2nd edition downgrading backlash sends it miles the other way...

[Duma]

Didn't feel that overgraded - though I didn't do it, and it was fairly warm. The 7b thing (no 5) to the left though is certainly an ego massager, felt easier than the mantle straight up at 7a.

[Johnny Brown]

You almost did a 7c grit problem, on slopers, in july. That ain't right.

[a dense loner]

no sirree. what is tetris?

[Duma]

Aye, I suppose (sigh)

Tetris is the 7c (for now) at fourth cloud - nice pic of the boulder in Ru's guide p284

[Duma]

Had another thought - whats the deal with access to the clouds - there's a sign on the path about a 'quiet area for wildlife' - anyone have knowledge?

[a dense loner]

yes, i don't think they want the wildlife disturbing the climbers :wink:

i am sad, i don't have a guide

[Jim]

that should read

i am tight, i don't have a guide

[webbo]

that should read

i am tight, i don't have a guide

according to recent rumours dense can be found wandering lancs quarries looking for young men to groom.

is tight a word you should associate with him.

[a dense loner]

only cos of my choad.

btw that should read "i am still waiting, i don't have a guide". you know who you are. some people forget where they came from when they turn big time :wink:

[andy_e]

oh shit, it really is a good job i'm with R-man all the time then. My mum was obviously right "Quarries are lonely places, you don't know what starnge people you might find."
Bollocks.

[Ru]

All you had to do is ask. Sos. PM your address.

[Fiend]

This might help?? Looks pretty simple to me though...

[dave]

thanks to you lot i now have the tetris theme tune going through my head.

thanks a bunch guys.

der, d-d-der, d-d-der d-d-der, d-d-der, d-d-der-der-der-deeerrr...

[Duma]

got it this weekend - sequence worked fine, just needed a bit more skin. Sadly, agree with JB - never 7c if I can manage in August. 7b would be harsh though, reckon it felt comparable with Ram Air which I did on a similarly warm day this year...