[cofe]

at least both hands come off

not on stanton one.  :poke:

of course they fucking do!! left hand on top hold, are you suggesting your righ hand could be in the break, i.e. at the same level as your feet? I can say my bottom hand was well and truly off when i did it, probably behind me somwhere.

thats not what you told kim; you said one hand stayed in the break and you stood into it type dyno rather than all points off. hence why i question your patriotism. general.

[Bonjoy]

Arete dyno left of Nik's Wall.

[dave]

again thats staticable allegedly.

[Bonjoy]

Only if you use cheating holds round the other side of the arete.

[dave]

int there summert about getting arete, putting right toe in pocket and going static but wi the normal holds, plus crimps maybe on the left? we tried that, seemd like it would work, with pointy boot and assuming you can get your finter out with your foot on top of it.

[Jim]

is this the thing at rivelin?

[nik at work]

No need to use holds round the other side at all, Daves beta sounds on the money to me. Just body tension and a smidge of technique makes it staticable. Although it is harder than the dyno this way so really shows less technique rather than more in a big picture kind of way I suppose...

It's all essentially soup.

[Paz]

Cheers Ru, it's ace only it's too good to deface with ticks or to take to the crag (I am death to guide books).  Fast despatch from vertebrate too.  

Dave (cast your memory back a fortnight) - like this?  

http://funambulus.canalblog.com/violin.jpg

.  And if you've got your guide that means belated best birthday wishes

[dave]

Thanks paz, i assume thats the worlds smallest violin.

[bob]

there must be some weird time distortion thingy between the peak and north wales, my cheques been cashed but as yet no guide    are there issues with the printers or is it just too popular for its own good?
i might be tempted to come over and get it when the weather craps out over here.

[bob]

cool it came this morning, im only half way through but its pretty ace. im off to make a tick list now i can understand the grades

[bob]

p.s. has anyone got any bright ideas as to how i can keep it all shiny short of buying a copy especially for the coffee table (still recovering from a double panton purchse)

[dave]

get a sheet of transparent sticky-back plastic, and cover it wi that. I do that to all me soft-cover guides, keeps em about as good as you're going to get.

[David S]

It's like being at school and covering your books

[dave]

damn straight - although the new guide probably won't look so great covered in an old TakeThat poster.

[cofe]

although the new guide probably won't look so great covered in an old TakeThat poster.

what's for breakfast camp david?

[dave]

ooohhh, mince.

todays breakfast consisted of 2 pints of water that was then vomitted violently into bucket with bits of last nights work-leaving-do curry. word.

Never forget where you've come here from cofe, never forget.

[cofe]

true, this could all be someone else's dream.